New York Giants News And Notes: Lawrence Tynes, Kevin Gilbride And More
by Ed Valentine on Dec 17, 2011 7:00 AM EST
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Tynes Finally Healthy, Having Special Season
"I’m pain-free for the first time in two or three years so I feel good," he said.
He added: "I feel as good as I’ve ever felt, especially this time of year. That and obviously moving the kickoff up five yards has helped. But yeah, I’m definitely hitting the ball better."
My take: Tynes has been spectacular this season, Let's hope it continues.
Here are a couple of thoughts from offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride, whose meeting with reporters this week was overshadowed by Perry Fewell's grilling concerning the defensive struggles.
Gilbride on the resurgence of Brandon Jacobs:
"The obvious thing just looking at him, he's running with great confidence so his cuts are much more precise, much more authoritative. He looks more physical and I think when you're feeling confident about what you're doing you let it flow and that's what it looks like he's doing. The million dollar question is why and I don't have an answer for that. I'm just happy that it's starting to manifest itself and I think he's doing a good job. It's been fun to watch and it's definitely helped. There's no question," Gilbride said.
Gilbride on the job done by the revamped offensive line:
think they're doing a good job up front. It's amazing right now with all of the injuries and all of the new faces and new bodies. I'm just very proud of the job that those guys are doing. If I thought earlier in the year that we would be playing with some of the bodies we're playing with, I would've said, ‘Whoa.' But they're doing a terrific job. They're hanging in there and fighting and they're doing a great job. ... As a group, they're playing better. We're playing better. Boothie (Kevin Boothe) has been flat out outstanding. Some of the snaps have been unnerving, but other than that he's keeping Eli's back loose."
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Five Yards or No Five Yards
I can’t believe how far Tynes’ kickoffs are going this year. How many have gone out the back of the end zone? And just two years ago, he could barely make the five yard line.
Tynes
Yeah, It’s nice to see our opponents starting at the 20 instead of the 35 or 40.
Your my Boy Blue!!!!!
It's amazing
Because you see guys out there playing and you never know what sort of pain they are in, especially a kicker.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 17, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent point..Who would ever think a kicker is hurt??
But I guess that can happen..We just don’t even think about it..We are tuned in to the markee players I guess..and don’t even think about maybe the kicker is hurting..Shame on us..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*I spelled mar..whatever wrong..sorry
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I've said it before and even voted one game to give Tynes a game ball..
He is kicking the ball with authority..and the 5 yards he mentioned really doesn’t matter..He’s booming his kick-offs this year..
I think we all are just as mystified as Gilbride about the BJ we are seeing lately..He’s finally lowering the boom on people again..Sunday his biggest victim was Sensabaugh..He knocked him senseless..You should have seen that guy gimping back to the defensive huddle..haha..and I agree about the O-line..this current configuration is working nicely..and definitely have helped the running game..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Tynes
I agree Bobbi, he’s been a revelation. I never understood the 5 year deal after the Superbowl. But now that he’s finally healthy I see why they liked him. As usual, JR knows what he’s doing.
Go Giants!
I'm crossing my fingers he won't get caught putting something in his wheaties
He used to be a below average kicker on kickoffs. Not anymore. He has been brilliant this year.
tynes still annoys me
yippie his kickoffs have gone into the endzone. Id much rather prefer that he kick 50ydrs on a regular basis. Considering his career long is 53, TC wont even let him attempt a 45ydr. Thats very frustrating. I hate lining up to punt at the 30. We’re leaving points on the field & that hurts
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
ive never seen a punt from the 30 .
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
He had that long one a few weeks ago
Against NO? The almost 60-yarder. Good kick.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Been on that Tynes train all along despite the kickoff struggles.
He was less than healthy, and it was obviously hurting his kicks.
I found out what I need to know about my kicker in GB 2007. Knowing he kick a 47 yarder, in Artic cold, with a championship on the line? That means everything.
And did you see Brady James against BJ? He wanted no part of tackling 27 either.
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Cant really be all aboard on the Tynes train
Imagine how many more points we would score if we had a kicker that can hit a 53 yarder on a consistent basis. That would mean 3pts instead of sacrificing field position or having to go for it at the opponents 33 or 34 yardline. Someone like Neil Rackers or doesnt have to be great like janikowski Crosby or Prater
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I like him despite not having a huge leg.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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Jake
I think he’s just healthy. Like Tuck, I think he plays through a lot of bang ups. We knew his MCL was sprained early on and that can rob you of the confidence needed to make authoritative cuts and pound the rock.
The improved OLine is certainly part of it too, but for me… good attitude = good health.
Gildride
He is doing a nice job this year. I think the awful D is forcing him to let Eli air it out.
Kind of funny that he doesn’t know why Jacobs is running better and why the line looks better reshuffled. I’ d say it’s because Jacobs needs the reps to feel comfortable and Petrus and Boothe just needed a chance.
Go Giants!
I know it isn't a popular sentiment hear but I think Gilbride is doing better than a nice job.
However, I think it is also because Eli has decided to own this offense. Cruz looks all-pro and Ballard looks good but those guys would be average on another team that didn’t have Eli telling them where to run. I think Nicks is an all-pro on any team.
I have no way of knowing how many plays Eli changes at the line
but it seems to me that may be one of the reasons the play goes off almost all the time with 1 second left on the clock.
Usually you can tell when you see him moving guys around..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Audibles are part of the overall philosophy
I sometimes wish Eli didn’t have to make all the adjustments and run the play clock down to the last second which the defense can rely on happening.
I’d love to see him walk under center and just say “hike!” It would catch the defense by surprise.
I saw a stat on this and it said between 40 and 50% of the time Eli is changing the play
Sometimes it gets us in a dicey situation with the playclock, though.
Did you see Eli on that one play in Dallas when he had both arms waaaay up in the air looking at KG like “COME ON GIMME THE F-IN PLAY ALREADY!!!”
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Yeah But
You hav to respect the mans effort for trying to get us into the best possible play and trying to get the defense to show what their doing with all the disguising defenses do now. It could be the complexity of our Offense: with all the option routes imagine if he just runs a play and the defense goes to a totally diff position than showed pre snap, it could lead to a lot of catastrophes so instead he waits it out to get a real good look. So could be a multitude of factors why he doesnt
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
That happens way more with other teams than it does ours..
Very rare occurence with our guys..KG and Eli normally have it all mapped out what they plan to do..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
On each drive I mean..they have a synched plan before he runs the offense out on the field..
Eli could have had a mike problem..but since I was there I didn’t see him do that..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Possible, but I don't think so.
Usually you would see a QB point to his helmet in that situation and Eli didn’t do that.
But, whatever, were just “talking here.” Not too much to complain about with the offense, overall. Even though we haven’t run it consistently that well, we score points.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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Yeah your probably right..that is something you can't see from the stands..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
At least
I can only recall a couple of delay of the games this year, one against the Pats inside
the 5 yard line comes immediately to mind. Besides doing the audibles, these QB’s
are also dealing with the crowd noise, specifically on the road. That’s when you see them with their hands next to their helmet, like, “I can’t hear”.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
We're still moving the rock effectively
I have no complaints, at home we seem to be a lot better. On the road i would expect that, and if thats what he has to do to get us into the best postion than i dont mind. Even buys our D a lil extra time to rest
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Eli is still getting better
He’s cut down on the int’s, he’s not getting the delay calls, and he’s been more accurate this year. I was one of those who always loved Eli as our QB, but didn’t think he was quite in that elite status for one reason or another each year. This year, he finally put it all together and he’s the QB I dreamed about when we drafted him.
I also knew if we were to compete this year, Eli had to have a career best year. This has been an exciting and fun team to watch this year, in spite of the defensive struggles. If the D gels, the sky’s the limit with this team. Go Giants!!!!
Go Giants!
He has had
his best year, no doubt about it.
He has ints. in 6 straight games, for a total of 7.
I would like that that trend to stop over the final three games., just saying.
Lets not call this Eli “bashing”, simply stating the facts folks!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't realize
It was six straight. As much as he’s had to sling it, it’s not that alarming though. Especially considering the level of competition we’ve faced in that span.
Go Giants!
KG sends in 2 plays Eli checks to the one he deems appropriate.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
I think the opposite would be true.
Eli is and would be average. Ballard and Cruz would still be good. Eli’s pseudo-elite reputation has cone fron hin riding the talent of his receivers.
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 9:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's pretty funny
Guess The WR’s staged those 6 come from behind wins, or the offense really gets going after two minute warning, where Eli has complete control over the offense. “Eli is and would be average?” You can argue elite-ness, but nobody is buying into Eli being average unless you’re a Cowboys or Eagles fan.
No, nor a Dallas nor an Eagles fan.
A Barber fan.
A Shockley fan.
A Roomer fan.
A Burress fan.
A Smith fan.
A Cruz fan.
A Nicks fan.
A Tyree fan.
Etc.
Get the picture?
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1st nor = not / Roomer = Toomer
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought you were channeling your inner Scooby Doo with "Roomer" lol
And I love the list of players you put up there.
It’s a list of players that Eli has made better, right?
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by tommy d. on Dec 17, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TAWD is going to have a shit-fit you called Toomer..Roomer!!haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Lol
Its ok… I know it was an autocorrect mistake. LoN loves Tommer so I forgive him.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 17, 2011 5:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Crap
I mean Toomer. See, these iPhone posts are a pain in the ass
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 17, 2011 6:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LMAO...I caught that but didn't have the heart to call you out, bro!!!..hahaha!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I read that and simply thought Oh he'll get it..haha!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Its ok
I would of deserved it
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 17, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Never thought you were anything but a Giants fan, I figured that'd be read wrong
All I’m saying is that the only people I’ve heard call Eli average or worse are Boys and Eggs fans. Does Eli have good receivers? Hell yeah he does. But that isn’t what makes him so good. Who was he throwing to last year? Hagan? C’mon do you expect me to believe that Hagan made Eli better? Or that Ham dropping that TD was Eli being average? Or the fact that without Eli, we are a basement team that doesn’t know what the playoffs is? Eli is NOT average. He’s suffered a lack of running game up until last Sunday, yet he still finds ways to win. He’s suffered a makeshift O-line this year and last year, yet still finds ways to win. He suffers from not having a defense, yet still finds ways to win. Again, Eli is NOT average.
Eli is Elite..No doubt about it..
He throws perfect passes right where they need to be..He gives the receivers every chance to be great..and they are great..I am sure you all pay attention to Eli..When he screws up you can read his lips..“Fuck”..When the receivers screw up he just stares them down that can’t feel too good for a receiver…haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yeah Eli knows how to lead
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bwwwwaaaaaaaahahahahaaaa!!
Jake Ballard and VIctor Cruz, those well seasoned pro bowlers that have been getting it done for yeras have clearly propped old Gomer Pile Manning from average to good.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hakeem Nicks across the middle I'm BALLIN!
This is by far the oddest comment you have made..LOL!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I can see that
After all, Smith and Boss are just killing it on their respective teams.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Yes he's done a great job this year IMO...Very few hiccups on offense this season..
And his interviews are honest and meaningful..That I like…unlike his counterpart Fewell..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah,
I never thought that when Fewell arrived, two years later I’d be saying I like KG better than Fewell as a coordinator. But I do.
Go Giants!
Hmmmm he did an excellent job last year as well
People just are blind to Gilbride for some strange reason.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Well he took alot of heat for the teams infamous 2nd half of the season collapses..
This year him and Eli are producing output that keeps them in a position to win games..I am quite frankly tired of the term ‘Killdrive’..How can folks insult a guy that is calling good games?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Gilbride's doing absolutely nothing different this year
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hakeem Nicks across the middle I'm BALLIN!
still sucks in the red zone, still sucks when need to move the chains and kill clock unless the running game bails him out
still can’t figure out that just cuz a play works, it doesn’t mean you have to wait 10 weeks to unveil it again…and of course, just cuz a play doesn’t work one time it doesn’t mean you have to run it until it does work.
Other then that he’s the same. Excellent, but Killdrive.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hakeem Nicks across the middle I'm BALLIN!
by Rorschach44 on Dec 17, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well the thing is him and Eli have solved the turnover problems from last year...
And our backs haven’t been laying the ball on the ground..But yeah he hasn’t produced many new wrinkles..Just pulling together better game plans from basically the same cookbook..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
the solution was having 3 legit options in the passing game
last year it seemed Ham, Nicks and Smith were never on the field together, and Diehl was so bad at LT that Boss had to basically be a Tyron Smith blocking TE.
Everything’s opened up this year so Eli’s forcing anything cuz there’s no need. There’s always single coverage somewhere. And if teams don’t play Nicks like they’re a piece of lint in his asscrack, he’s wide open too.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hakeem Nicks across the middle I'm BALLIN!
Yeah I mentioned in an earlier thread that our receivers are reaching the point where
They are giving teams fits..Then when you add the big boys Bear, Sir Ballardhad and Hyzinski..It gets better..How the hell does a defense cover all of that?..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah we IR'ed cruz to early last yr i think
BC once smith went down he took our offense a long with it. Thats when we started signing guys off the street. When Smith Nicks Ham and Boss were all available the way we were running the ball, There was no Defense in the league that was gonna stop us for a whole game. Now i love where we’re at bc Cruz and ballard and Ham (who isnt having his best yr to date) are pretty much all getting single coverage bc of doubling Dream. The best part is, we have Cruz and Ballard for another two yrs and dont have to give them a check. Gotta love when the scouting dept hits on UDFA’s
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I have posted several times my frustration that they didn't have Cruz on the roster..
Instead they kept Beckum and hid Cruz on the IR..We could have made the playoffs last year..but what do I know…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah that was one of JR's quick decisions
That turned out to bite us in the ass. He couldve waited on him like he did Beatty
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
For all intents and purposes
Cruz IS a rookie! It’s not like Manningham’s first year here, he just didn’t
get on the field! I wonder how hard this front office is going to try and bring
HAM back, I really do?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I really think we should go all out within reason
To bring ham back. I know Bardens waiting in the wing but he only has one yr left b4 he’s a urfa. Continuity + he prally won’t be that expensive. Cut Diehl And Mac and Bj that’s 14 mil right there
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really think we should go all out within reason
To bring ham back. I know Bardens waiting in the wing but he only has one yr left b4 he’s a urfa. Continuity + he prally won’t be that expensive. Cut Diehl And Mac and Bj that’s 14 mil right there
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed with all that
Except maybe cutting BJ. Now I realize that BJ can’t/won’t run like that every game, but I can dream can’t I?
Me too..all of it
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm sick of them grooming receivers then when they are almost
at their peak..letting them go to other teams..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Seems to be a specialty
You know what really irks me is watching Vishanti Shanco or however the hell it’s spelled on the Vikings. When he was a Giant I can’t remember him being all that special. If he was a second tight end option for Eli now, we’d be giving defenses fits even more than we already do.
That really irks me too..they give up on guys like Shanco.
and keep guys like Beckum..Go figure..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Shanco was a $ decision.
They already had ajot of money invested, and due, to Shockey
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Yes that was probably it..
Money talks and star receivers walk..It is a historical Giant trait..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
What receivers have we developed and let go who have succeeded elsewhere?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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And I mean in TC years
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Well I don't believe TC era receivers have left
With the exception of Smitty..The one that comes to mind was McCaffery..there are others, but I’ll have to think..Which is now quite difficult because I’m in my pre-game mode..I want to have a real good buzz on before the Cowgirls game starts..so it is very hard to think when your doing ‘arm-curls’
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I love arm curls
Throwing in cable flies along with some reverse french curls are always a good way to……oh you mean beer.
I didn't think there were too many
And I recall Dan Reeves saying letting McCaffery go was just about the worst football decision he ever made. Coming from a man with his resume, that says alot.
I’m going out for a steak. And hopefully to watch the Cowgirls lose. :-)
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If the Cowboys lose tonight I'll run up
down the street..yelling with a Bud in my hand….Enjoy your steak..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Nah Tommy is going out for a Steak..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Woooooooow I fail
I literally added an R into both your sentences. I could have sworn that said streak…….
Predictability
I think part of it has to be that when D.J. Ware (or Bradshaw) motions out of the back-field everyone and their brother knows it’s a swing screen pass coming
or if it’s third and two it’s a RB draw out of the shot-gun
Or on a blitz we know Eli is throwing a quick back shoulder fade to Hakeem Nicks (which Newman almost picked off, last game for instance)
Sometimes it feels (and it’s probably no so) that we are extremely predictable and I think that perception hurts Gilbride’s reputation.
Fans don’t want to be able to get the right play-call sitting from the couch…because who could the defense not get it right?
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by Jesse Bartolis on Dec 17, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Well you have to give credit to opposing defenses for making the right reads also..
I don’t think our plays are necessarily predictable anymore than other teams offenses..The problem with us is our defense can’t make any reads at all..at least this year the team is posting up points and making fewer mistakes.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
perception
I agree all fans probably feel that way about their favorite teams, but that’s the perception
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by Jesse Bartolis on Dec 17, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah true..all fans get tied up in a knot when they march downfield and fall short..
I think TC should replace ‘Green Zone’..with ‘Danger Zone’..Our guys score more TDs from 30 yards out than they do from the 20 yard mark..Drives ya nuts..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
When they reach the 20..I can always be heard mumbling "Oh Shit"..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Have nothing bad to say about Tynes or Gilbride
Because they have performed well! Note to defense!
While we are talking Tynes, let’s give credit to Weatherford’s punting, too! Big upgrade from Matt Dodge. Frankly, we should have cut Dodge after the unspeakable incident. Sounds cruel, but the NFL is Darwinian!
Good point about Weatherford..I haven't had to close my eyes on punts at all this year..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I didn't lose my anxiety over punts until about the Seahawk game
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Weatherford
Is an All Pro in my eyes.
The guy has helped to change field position effectively almost everytime out this year, and that is key with a poor defense. Could you imagine how bad this season would be if they were still giving up short fields to the opposition like last year?
And the angles are reminiscient of Feagles.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Yeah his angles are terrific and he boots them high..
I’m not sure what his average hangtime is, but it must be good..He doesn’t give returners balls they can sink their teeh into, and his punting has helped our guys get downfield and wrap a blanket around the returner..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He is not quite as good
as Feagles at pinning people inside the 20, but has a much stronger leg.
Tynes has surprised with the length of his kickoffs this year. I never had a problem with him
as a field goal kicker.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Rarely hear his name except when he is kicking the ball. He has done a splendid job thus far.
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 9:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His only bonehead play this year was that 'keeper'...
I don’t know whether that was designed, or he did it on his own..but he’s been great..and I think we got him from the Jets, which makes my Feet smell Sweet…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He and Ward turned out to be qiute some catchses.
Jets shed so much talent it is hard to believe they have not won a SB in such a long time.
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 9:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
F it he was trying to make a play
I think he is our first priority to resign in the offseason
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jacobs
I think a lot of the difference in his running the last couple of games is, he knows he’s going to be the guy. Even when they were using a 3 running back rotation a few years ago, BJ knew he had most of the first half to work. Some players don’t respond well to playing in spots; they need to establish rhythm.
I think that could have been planned..saving him until this part of the season..He's healthy
and now he’s running like an animal..If I am right that was a brilliant coaching strategy…There’s nothing better than having a Bull running full tilt in December..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I really just think
That the new guys on the line are opening up holes up front and he’s confident in them. Their stronger and quicker and their getting more push so holes are there…….. That my friends is the only true difference in his game
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn’t argue with that. Jacobs was running hard early this year. Both he and Bradshaw were making first contact with defenders 2 yard in the backfield most of the time.
Another factor is, since Bradshaw first went down, and Jacobs had his hamstring injury, they’ve run a lot more legitimate power running plays, fewer traps and sweeps that require timing and coordination among the O=-line.
Yeah most def
That damn pulling guard draw still irks tha shit outta me but hey @ least it works @ the goal line. But I’m just happy their infusing youth into the line. If they let Petrus keep the spot @ LG than that means we have continuity there for another two yrs barring no injury. All we’d hav to get are tackles
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Michael Boley accused of child abuse
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/17/michael-boley-child-abuse/#.TuyjElYg_Ss
Just Saw Patricia Traina tweet this out.
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me." Dudley Field Malone
Editor at nflmocks.com, contributor a newyork.sbnation.com
someone doesnt want us to make the playoffs
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
Yeah, but Pat thinks our D has settled in
so we know we can take anything she says with a few grains of salt.
The article
was reported by TMZ, and reading between the lines, looks like the “ladies” involved are just
looking for ’mo money.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
I know
I just can’t resist the potshot after Ed so vehemently defended her column. She reminds me of Yelp reviewers. Every two-bit fan thinks they’re a qualified reporter, I’m still waiting for an answer on how the hell she ever got a press pass. I thought you had to write for an accredited source in order to get one.
Well out of fairness I won't blame her for posting out news that is already out there..
My problem is some of her responses..The worst one yesterday was saying the defense has ‘Settled in"..Settled in to what?..a Long deep sleep?..geezus..Does she have any clue who’s reading that nonsense?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You are correct.
It is almost automatic in divorce and custody cases that the woman’s attorney will set up a scenario that presents the father as a child abuser. It’s not fair, but it is another product of the feminist movement of the 70s.
The movement actually goes back further than that.
Early 1900s? I think. I wrote a report aboutvit in a feminist course I was forced to taken
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Forced?!
NO MEANS NO!!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Always there with a clever quip. LOL
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
How does someone get forced to take a course on feminism?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Just get married...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
OH YEAH BABY!!!! LOL
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
it was the only course being given at the time.
In order to continue to qualify for financial aid, I had to take a certain amount of credits per semester. It was either take the course or not take it and be disqualified for the aid.
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 17, 2011 10:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate this crap.
first off its tmz, grain of salt. Then its the whole title about Boley being accused of child abuse, which today after all those halfa’s at Penn State and Cuse will get you a lot of attention.
Then the stickler is how the woman he’s paying child support to wants quintuple the money to increase her lifestyle. Yea….
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hakeem Nicks across the middle I'm BALLIN!
All these heffers are motivated by their money
Ty to be nice at first but as soon as they get the kid it’s ‘MISSION COMPLETE’ that’s an crew 3 grand a month. And the courts don’t help the situation at all. Nowadays if u got money it should be Fuck love
If you want a kid pay a poor woman from a 3rd world country to hav than make her give it to you…. Make sure she’s clean as well thru all necessary testing and decent looking as well
Just my thougts
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me..
Sounds like a money motivated scheme…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
retarded
what was once called parenting is now considered abuse. Clearly we dont know any details but Im betting this is BS.
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Don't disagree
sounds like s scam and the timing surely is funny…But you never know.
Wasn’t Boley arrested for assault before too?
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me." Dudley Field Malone
Editor at nflmocks.com, contributor a newyork.sbnation.com
I don't know...
But he sure doesn’t look or behave like he would hurt a child…So he’s probably just getting milked for money..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Neither did John Wayne Gacy
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Ouch!!!..hahaha!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
duh
Flacco and Finely don’t like the Tebow coverage…NFL.com
Wow…I’m hearing two guys who are critizing Tebow and the media for all the coverage he gets but then they both make statements basically saying that THEY should be getting that coverage. Duh…Flacco is a boring guy who nobody gives a crap about and the “Rodgers is the best ever to play the game” story has gotten old even though it’s valid. Flacco thinks that the Ravens should get massive media coverage because they beat the Steelers…really? So, beating a division rival twice during the regular season rates over the Broncos dramatic turn around? Plus, if you have a problem with the media coverage of Tebow then why did you go to the media and complain about Tebow? You are perpetuating the very thing that you are protesting.
Envy is one of the 7 deadly sins.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Agreed..Tebow is taking a beating for winning?!?..Hmmmm
I just don’t get it..There are articles about him starting to come out describing him as a steely nerved competitor..He’s taking heat for no logical reason..He was quoted as telling reporters after they mentioned his lackluster stats: “Oh y’all have alot of different statistics, it’s all about wins and losses”..Then a report quoted him how he encourages teammates when they are losing: “You’ve dreamed of doing this since you were a little boy !!!..Let’s not get stressed !!…This is a dream come true !!”…Now somebody needs to tell me what’s wrong with that?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
To tell you the truth I couldn't even watch ESBullshittigwitthemselvesPN this week
So much Tebow coverage you’d a thought they won the Super Bowl already. I couldn’t take it and still can’t. And if they beat the patriots I promise I won’t watch any ESPN football covering programs for the week it’s SICKENING and I understand where their coming from
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Praising the Lord
It unnerves some people. I personally don’t live a very spiritual life or spend much time with religious activities in my own daily life. But I’ll defend anybody’s right to be vocal about their beliefs if that is integral to their life and success. If guys can thank their sponsors and their family, he can thank God as often as he likes IMO. If it annoys some people, well, too bad. There are plenty of things about other people that annoy me. I don’t try to cut them down and denigrate them personally for these flaws, unless they are affecting other people. He’s seems like a quality guy that tries to live his life the right way. Nothing wrong with that.
Go Giants!
The jehovah's hauling ass out of my yard pursued by a normally docile Bassett hound would love you.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Hahaha!!!..
Hey I don’t have a problem with Tebow’s Christianity..Good for him…Hell the only hope for me is at my Funeral somebody hollers out: “Look he’s moving !!!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
First take had a two show 2 hour tribute to Timmy SHIT BOW
If there weren’t enough reasons to find it hard to sit through their programing .. Now its reached epic proportions .
Im going to church tomorrow to pray to my god (who ever that may be) And I shit u not !!! I will be asking for a royal ASS KICKING to be inflicted upon the Broncos this Sunday.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
To speak on the draft
I started looking at Tackles and LBz two weeks ago bc i dont follow college fb like that only when its time to scout. Dont feel we need inside help immediately, So tackles and LBz but def wouldnt mind a if another first round corner fell into our laps wit TT and Ross being free agents + Webbie making too much $$$$ next yr dont know how thats gonna play out. CB could be a more immediate need
In ONLY a business sense
the Giants got a bit lucky, both Goff and TT, are free agents.
It was bad timing for them individually. I think stud LT’s are gone within first 15 picks, quite honestly. I sill would rather have them address the OLine in the first round.
If TT leaves, Prince will be starting, not sure they want Ross back.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Don't forget Chad Jones...He's making a remarkable recovery..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
They say he ran a 4.8
At his 40 yard dash recently. He says he’s gonna ask the management if he should try to play LB bc he’s 230 or 235 right now. Wouldn’t mind that by we hav 3 LOLBs right now. But I guess you could never hav enuff cover guys
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't hold my breath there
with the guys on IR, like Tyron, Johnson, they can definitely find a nickel back.
I am pulling for the young man Jones, but I think baseball is his best avenue is sports now.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 17, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Ross will definitely not be back
Even if he comes cheap. Jus looking @ our secondary I believe cb is going to be a pressing need, draft one if he is the best on the board than resign TT to a one yr, goof same thing and we hav the rights to tryon so that would be our five barring no injuries to none of em
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Damn it Ed. Had to bring up the great year Tynes is having didn't you?
A kicker in the midst of a great season in week 15 is like a pitcher throwing a no-hitter through 7. We all see it, but we don’t talk about it. Just silently acknowledge it’s awesomeness and leave it at that. You’ll pay for this…. (just kidding)
Hahaha!!!..Somebody needs to send Ed a package of Sunflower seeds..
So he can munch on them…Keep him busy so he doesn’t jinx us..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
It seems my posts are repeating..Constanza!!! what did you do to me I'm stuttering!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'd love to pair Kuechly and Herzlich together
Kuechly at MLB and Herz at SAM.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
However
He doesn’t have the physical traits that the Giants go for in the first or second round. The Giants go for athletes and Kuechly doesn’t jump out at you. Vontaze Burfict could be an option.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I don't follow College football enough to really provide any useful input..
There are a few..but I just can’t honestly be a force in a draft discussion..the few I like I’ll toss in their, but I am not a opinionated guy on the draft for the most part..I rely on what you guys and gals think that follow College alot closer than I do..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I will offer an example of why I don't get into draft discussions..
Years ago, once upon a time they drafted a kid from Moorehead State..You should have heard the Boos..Well that was Phil Simms and led the team to its first SB victory..So I watch the picks being made on TV..but you just never know who is going to sink or rise to greatness..that is why I tend to stay out of the debates..I leave picks up to the experts..Like JPP, when I saw that dude do those back-flips on tape I said to myself, Holy shit !!..Same with Barden..Cruz I didn’t have visibility to until the pre-season..and I’m again Holy shit..still pissed he didn’t make the roster last year as I’m sure the Giants now are..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Nice to hear KG echo our collective sentiments, re: Boothe
We know his snaps need help, but he has done everything asked of him and more, and has proved himself quite capable. I love this guy as our 6th lineman.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 18, 2011 3:57 AM EST reply actions
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