Giants Vs. Redskins: Five Things To Watch
by Ed Valentine on Dec 17, 2011 10:00 AM EST
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PrintThe New York Giants (7-6) meet the Washington Redskins (4-9) Sunday at MetLife Stadium, with the Giants looking to keep control of the NFC East and avenge a season-opening loss to Washington. Here are my 'Five Things To Watch' on Sunday.
1. The Giants Secondary -- Can the Giants -- finally -- get whatever communication/assignment issues have had all season solved? The Giants are 30th in overall defense and only five teams have surrendered more than the 349 points the Giants have allowed. After listening to all of the back-and-forth all week about who was to blame, or not to blame, and the vague answers from defensive coordinator Perry Fewell it's difficult to feel confident the Giants can straighten this out now.
2. The Treatment of JPP -- I think you can feel reasonably certain that the Redskins won't do what Dallas tried to do, which was block Jason Pierre-Paul with one player. He is likely to get the star treatment -- double teams, chip blocks, etc. -- from opposing teams the rest of the way. He has earned it.
3. The Giants Running Game -- Lots of improvement in this area the past two weeks as the re-shuffled offensive line is opening some holes and Brandon Jacobs seems to be running with authority. Can they keep it up? And, will the Giants continue to lean on Jacobs, or will Ahmad Bradshaw end up with the bulk of the work? If it's me I keep riding the horse who has been getting it done, and that means staying with Jacobs.
4. The Play Of Rex Grossman -- Inadequate quarterback play has been the biggest thing holding the Redskins back this season. Grossman has 12 touchdown passes and 16 interceptions this season, leading to a 71.8 passer rating. Unfortunately, against the Giants he has looked like Aaron Rodgers. He threw for 305 yards and two touchdowns earlier this season, and in the 2010 season finale he passed for 336 yards and two touchdowns. The Giants need to make Grossman look like, well, Grossman.
5. Can The Giants Slow Roy Helu? The rookie running back has taken off for Washington the past three weeks, gaining 108, 100 and 126 yards in his past three games. Part of making Grossman look like Grossman is taking away his running game, which means stopping Helu's string of 100-yard games.
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I'd like to see the giants punish grossman here
not sure if that’s gonna happen though. im thinking 24-17 giants
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
by NJsandman on Dec 17, 2011 10:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Well out of the 5..
I am interested to see if our running game just wasn’t a mirage in Dallas..and Bradshaw owes the team something for getting his dumb butt benched for a half..again I laud TC for doing that..
Second, #5..Helu scares the dickens out of me..we have however been pretty decent at stoppind dangerous runners..but based on Jone’s performance after replacing McMurray, I just don’t know..this concerns me…
I can’t and wont be able to figure out how the Giants make lousy QBs pro-bowl candidates..
On #1..forget about it I expect the same inept effort and just hope we survive it..
And finally your absolutely right JPP has probably received extra scrutiny by the Skins all week..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You and me both
Benching Bradshaw in the first half over a curfew violation is really starting to push the limit on how much TC I can handle. I really feel like Jacobs is running like he hasn’t in years though (starting back in New Orleans when he flattened Roman Harper), so I hope he keeps it going.
It’s weird that our blocking seems miles ahead of where it was weeks ago before several critical injuries.
by Max Schwager on Dec 17, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Kudos to TC on the benching.
You have to show the team that no player is above the rules in order to be a leader. TC stood on principle and the team won, which is a big boost in both areas.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 17, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
That's my opinion..I applaud TC for that...He knew what was on the line there and
Stuck to his principles..Let’s see how AB pays his team back this week for being an idiot..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
TC stood his ground, and BJ...
…made the most of his opportunities by stepping up and making big plays in Bradshaw’s absence. If BJ wasn’t running well, it would have brought a whole hell of a lot more scrutiny on TC’s decision — one which I believe was the correct one, given the situation.
The rules apply to all 53 players, and each individually are accountable to his teammates. AB let the other 52 guys down.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 18, 2011 3:47 AM EST up reply actions
kinda disgusting how we've given up 60 more points than the rest of the division
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 17, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Yeah that relly hurts me..having watched this team for so many years, that is disgusting..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
its the new rules
we drafted to be a high scoring team that gets scored on… (packers, saints, patriots)
by The Blood of Eli on Dec 17, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
You stole my post
Recd
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Yep
But you know what? NE, GB, NO are also giving up big numbers. I think we are seeing a shift that may last for awhile. The O’s are just better than the X’s. Now, what would we look like without all of the injuries? That we can’t answer, other than just speculate given our recent late season performances. We can’t use 2007 as a barometer any more…..
by Jimmy Orange on Dec 17, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
No zone coverage
Would be nice
Rex is pretty accurate against the Zone, take it away he makes mistakes.
by Pinstripes&BigBlue on Dec 17, 2011 10:32 AM EST reply actions
Anybody is good when they face that crappy zone our guys play..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Its 2 not 5
1. Do the Giants play with energy and passion, like they really want it? Gotta have that going into last two games.
2. Do the Giants rule the trenches against a mediocre team. Both sides. If they run the ball and if their D line can stop the run and make Grossman bloody they will go a long ways toward being ready to the last two weeks (sorry Barry).
I say they do. But I also see a couple silly mistakes that almost negate the advantage they gain by owning the trenches.
Giants 27 – 21, and it really isn’t even that close.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
If They don't come out with a heavy dose of BJ
Isnt that another sign that our coaching sticks to its plan, even when a better alternative presents itself?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
i say yes
same if baas plays another snap last year.
I know plenty here recognize that our O went to shit when they forced O’Hara and Richie back in when they were clearly 50% of themselves and hurt more than helped.
Richie was fine @ center as was beatty at LT
It was when Deihl and Ohara came back after their injuries and TC decided to go away from the line that hadn’t given up a sack in like four games: Beatty Boothe Richie Snee Mac they worked beautifully together and TC had to be stubborn and let O’hara come back for BIG DIVISIONAL GAME. we couldn’t run a damn thing and we gave up pressure. Ohara went back to the bench hurt right after that 2nd pigeons game smfh
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I say a heavy dose of BJ as well.
by oldschoolblue64 on Dec 17, 2011 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I sense a lot of confidence here
1. The skins steamrolled us in week 1.
2. If the Giants lose this week, the Cowboys will likely be back “in control.”
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 17, 2011 11:00 AM EST reply actions
Exactly!
This is a game the Giants could lose.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Hell no we can't afford to lose this one
I know Mark Sanchez ain’t great but the Jeta are hitting their December stride that’s a game with their tricky defense and good corners that we could lose. I don’t want any losses heading into that dallas game, if anything I’d hope they lose to the pigeons we win two straight so that way we could afford to rest some guys and really stick it to him by saying here have this bc it don’t mean shit. Now that would be GRAND
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 17, 2011 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
After Ryan dissing the Giants this week I hope we demolish the Jets...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If the D can't stop the run
and allow Washington to control the clock, they could lose this game easily. Honestly the way the defense has played lately, I would say that if the Giants lose the turnover battle they have a better than average chance of losing this one. I wouldn’t pick against them, just because of all the players Washington has missing, but I’m not nearly as confident as everybody else seems to be.
by Oppenheimer919 on Dec 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
im worried about santana moss
hes the giants killer on that roster and always has been
by The Blood of Eli on Dec 17, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions
NFC East aint lookin too good.
Honestly all the Giants need to do is come out and play like they did against the Packers. As pissed as I was at that game, some of the blown secondary plays, and some blown calls, if the Giants played like that every game, we’d be 15-1 for certain.
Yeah that Green Bay game still gives me acid reflux..
58 seconds and overtime..but they blew it..at least that game showed me we can beat anybody if we play a full 60 minutes..that game they played 59.2 minutes..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The Greenbay game gave me acid reflux
a broken remote, some broken decorative bamboo, and a few broken candles. Though at least the candles and bamboo weren’t anything important.
For real...
It’s embarrassing when I see the playoff standing on NFL Network and the Packers, Saints, and 49ers all have impressive records and then you see the Giants at 7-6. It’s quite pathetic.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Sure is..we lost all of our gimmee games..Now it it a firefight..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Agreed
You hate to be that division where all the records are average or worse and get in the playoffs…no one takes it seriously, but than again when do ppl give the Giants props anyway.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Yeah like Seattle last year..what a joke..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
My 2 things to watch on Sunday
1. My blood pressure rising dangerously.
2. My blood alcohol levels hovering between belligerent and unconscious.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Haha!!..I wear that monitor..Help!! I've fallen and I can't get up!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Fucking thing..doesn't work..nobody shows up..So I crawl to the fridge for a beer
..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I just hope...
We don’t get inside the 5 like we did against Dallas and have this scenario:
1st down-pass
2nd down-pass
3rd down-run
FG
Is Gilbride serious??? It should have been 1st down>run>TD
It's still GIANTS Stadium
We need a separate red zone offense coach
Eli has gotten better at the fades but they are overused, and sometimes there is too much aiming. With Nicks and Beckum’s large bodies, throw them quick slants. No one is reaching around Ballard, the question is whether he can break off the line fast enough.
If there is one thing the shifty Bradshaw is good at, it’s making it past the first defender. Throw it to him in the flat when you only need 2 yards, that’s a high percentage play.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Screw Beckum..he now gets hurt when he catches a pass..
Bring in the Pharoah down there…They should have him practiced that fade down to a science by now..He’s taller than Plax and has a twenty foot wing span..who the hell can cover that?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Gilbride can cover it
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Ha!!..yeah he has all season..lol
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Agreed
They did that fade twice back to back!! I know it works well with our receivers, but a slant over the middle would be just fine. Why are we confining ourselves and not using the rest of the endzone?? Brady does that well with TD’s in the back middle of the endzone. I’m sure Eli is capable.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
If I recall from last game's treatment of JPP
He’s going to get his jersey held by Williams again.
I’m thinking of the famous shoe polish incident with Gil Hodges. The Giants need to put mini dye packs inside their jerseys, that explode if squeezed but stay intact if pushed.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Haha!!
The Skins will try to contain JPP but they won’t be able to..They are defending a huge quick basketball player who knows when to get his long arms and big hands up to block the shot..plus if they try to double team him, the rest of our line will put a hurting on Grossman..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
DL needs to go with tear away jerseys
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
And our secondary needs tasers..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Our secondary needs something...
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Hmmm..Maybe trip-wire would work..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Sure do
Spider, Willie, Jason, Everson, CC ( not )
by Jimmy Orange on Dec 17, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to say
“land mines”… but not the way the Giants D communicates…
by Oppenheimer919 on Dec 17, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah..that would be a bad thing.."Where are they??"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
In other news
The B’s are stomping the Flyers 5-0, 2nd int., helps the Rangers right?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Coughlin
Don't forget...
6) Guys in blue stepping up and making big plays.
Late to the party (as usual; curse this being 9 time zones away), but I am surprised only one other person on this thread mentioned the absence of Fred Davis
He and Rex torched us during the first game, and we struggle mightily in dealing with tight ends rumbling down the field. Davis is Grossman’s safety net, and without him their WRs (who don’t worry me) will be forced to step up ad make big plays.
I like our chances more this time around.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 18, 2011 3:29 AM EST reply actions
Good point...plus we just need to win this game!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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