Giants Vs. Redskins: Five Questions With 'Hogs Haven'
by Ed Valentine on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM EST
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We haven't done a 'Five Questions' segment with a writer from a rival team for the past few weeks, but this week we return that feature to its rightful place in our Thursday lineup. Kevin Ewoldt from Hogs Haven has answered some of our questions to help us get ready for Sunday's game against the Washington Redskins, and we appreciate that.
The Q&A is after the jump. By the way, the graphic you see at the top of this post came from a Big Blue View reader who has volunteered to provide us with some occasional artwork. Our artist has largely been a 'lurker' who goes by the screen name 'Moro Crater.' Hope you the enjoy the post, and the effort to brighten the page just a touch.
Big Blue View: Given that this will be another losing season in Washington is there any reason to believe this franchise is moving forward, or does it seem like the Redskins are still simply spinning their wheels?
Hogs Haven: There is a lot to like with what the Redskins are doing right now. Last draft they turned six draft picks into 12, and so far, nine of them are contributing at a high level right now (Hankerson and Jarvis Jenkins on IR look very promising and another WR is on practice squad). For the first time in twenty years, the Redskins are building a strong, young, core group of guys. A lot of these players were team captains so leadership has been a focal point bringing in players (Bowen, Cofield, Atogwe, etc). The Redskins record is simply not good, but a lot of those losses are a result of poor QB play. When the QB position is addressed, this team will be in the playoff hunt New Years' weekend next year...mark my words.
Big Blue View: Can you see the Redskins doing anything other than taking a quarterback with their first-round selection in the draft this coming April?
Hogs Haven: I'd be shocked if a QB was not taken. I had the chance to see Matt Barkley play and I can't see Shanahan taking anyone but him. If for some reason some one trades up ahead and takes him (or whoever we have pinned for a top 5 pick), I could see the Redskins trading back again and hoarding more picks. More picks is always a good thing.
Big Blue View: We talked about Barry Cofield earlier this season. Now that you have seen him play nose tackle for almost a full season what are your thoughts on that experiment? His numbers would seem to indicate it has not gone well.
Hogs Haven: Barry Cofield is easily the best free agent acquisition the Redskins have had since London Fletcher in 2007. Most Nose Tackles don't have numbers, but he's a large reason the Redskins have 34 sacks. Last week was the first week the Redskins got shut out in the department, but his leadership and ability to stuff the middle has been a great success. Kudous to Jim Haslett. All 3-4 defenses MUST have a solid NT. Last year Ma'ake Kemoeatu was a huge failure, which resulted in the Redskins ranking bottom 5 in defenses in almost every category. This year Redskins D ranks in the teens across the board. Cofield does lead the NFL in batted down balls.
Big Blue View: The most impressive Washington Redskins player this season has been ....?
Hogs Haven: Certainly Roy Helu jumps out. He's the first Redskins to rookie to rush for 100+ yards in his first three starts. London Fletcher though should win most impressive. He is the heart and soul of our team, and the fact at age 36 he's never missed a game AND leads in the NFL in tackles with 134 is simply incredible. The Redskins offense ranks 19th in Time of Possession, so it's not like he's racking up those numbers from being out there all game. He's simply that good.
Big Blue View: Obviously, you would like your team to win the division but that is not going to happen. Is it easier to stomach seeing the Giants win the division, or the Dallas Cowboys?
Hogs Haven: Redskins fans would root for the Taliban if they were playing the Cowboys...no one here ever wants to see Dallas win, so that's an easy question. The Giants are the least-hated team in the NFC East (from my standpoint) although Antrel Rolle is doing everything he can to change that (is he your DHall?) Eagles are obviously very obnoxious and Dallas is well...Dallas. The worst.
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Awwww. I didn't see my favorite question
Which Giant player would you love on your team?
Well
That’s because I asked him that one earlier this year, so I let it pass the second time around.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
there's only one player i could see really wanting from their team
London Fletcher. i think Orakpo’s a bit overrated and what we have is better than him anyway
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
CP3 - coming soon to a Garden near you!
I'd dump Danny Ware for Helu every day and twice on Sunday
I wouldn’t mind Kerrigan, he’s big enough for a 4-3 end. Heck, I’d take the Cofield back in a heartbeat. Normally I wouldn’t take him, but Hall’s better than some of the dreck we’re dragging out there like Blackmon and Martin at CB
I would dump Ware for a tackling dummy and some Duct tape
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
his agent is calling him D2 because all he does is make 2pt conversions
but anyway, some da’rel scott would be nice
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
aournd my household we call him B Ware
by Late for Dinner on Dec 16, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
We call him Tupperware..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'd trade Eli for Grossman
bye bye interception machine
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
We need someone
willing to throw the ball deep
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adopted from Raptor 22)
We would take that in a heartbeat
Rex is the king of T.O.s. Eli has looked great this year, why the hate ??
Fletch
I’ve been a fan of London Fletcher for years. Solid player.
Team: Kraken Pierre-Paul
Well that is an excellent answer Ed.
Hadn’t even considered that, my bad.
That question should have been replaced by a free offer..
Ed: “How would you like a free secondary..no gimics or fine print..You can have them all?”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very easy....Eli or JPP.
"You know those balls that they put on car antennas so you can find them in the parking lot? Those should be on every car!" - Homer Simpson
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 16, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Whoever the hell Moro Crater is....props dude.
That thing looks gorgeous.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM EST reply actions
+95
adding 82 and 13 up
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
yes that's about the only time we see number 13 anymore
so props just for that.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
CP3 - coming soon to a Garden near you!
Moro Crater..anybody with a name like that I have to see..
How he get that name?..Pock marks on his face?..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Worse.
Tried to make out with an inflatable sandpaper doll when I was eleven. The Extra Coarse one. Now I’m just the new face of Papa John’s. Pays the rent.
part of the US genocide in the Phillippines
after the U.S. promised the Phillippines independence for siding with us against the Spanish in the Spanish-American war, the Filipinos were understandably upset to see the US renege on it and declare their country now our colonial possession.
The US, long a spreader of democracy around the world, responded to their efforts for independence by massacring about a million Filipinos.
The Moro Crater Massacre is just one of a long list of heinous massacres of unarmed peasants over the 15-year slaughter.
here’s a starting point: http://fonsucu.blogspot.com/2005/11/filipino-genocide.html
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
here is Mark Twain on this particular "battle"
http://www.is.wayne.edu/mnissani/cr/moro.htm
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the history lesson, Simms
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
not sure ... if serious ...
American Foreign Policy from 1900 on is sort of an area of interest for me.
Definitely not looking to get in any political discussions, as I hate’em all. But knowing history certainly adds to the perspective on current events.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Love history
visited Boston recently. Had the time of my life.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I was serious.
I love history myself. And I too, hate political discussions because they end up nowhere.
When I was younger I enjoyed them, but I’ve outgrown them. Enjoying the debate on FOX tonight, though.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
If you don't understand
that 99% of politicians are lying dirtbags, I can’t talk to ya.
Anybody who buys into one party or the other is laboring under a delusion!
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
see,
I want to vote for him, because seriously F everybody else
but my smart friends say he has horrible flaws (like the others dont)
I may end up voting for him just because … I haven’t voted main line ticket ever, in my life.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Too Extreme
i like his general ideas, but he takes them way too far. He’s also got some skeletons in his closet that I think have gone under the radar because he hasn’t been a serious candidate yet.
Hahaha!!!..The official logo for The Bullshit Artist Party...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Iheard Blagovovich got 14 years..
And his barber got sentenced to death…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
No delusions here
There are very few people, in any leadership positions, that deserve our trust.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
This country needs a third party bad
Both parties are an absolute joke, and when each get’s into power both screw us over
by Late for Dinner on Dec 16, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
And don't forget all the greedy scumbuckets
like Jon Corzine or Bernie Madoff who run company’s that rip people off to highest degree.
Way too many people in the highest psitions of power use their positions for their own personal gain while trampling on our society’s morals, laws, and people.
We need a feller’ on a white horse to come in and clean up this here town.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
part of the problem is thinking of it as a "third party"
we need a REAL party, is what we need. Frankly, it’s a 1-party system and (double entendre in 3… 2… )
It’s not much of a party.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 16, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
only reason for the parties is to divide the people up
make them fight among themselves….
its’ very clever actually.
Fire Fewell
niceeeeee
love history as well. Ancient, Medieval, American, Military WWII are my key areas of knowledge
Team TAWD:
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 15, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
i wish I knew more about ancient history. Babylon and shit.
I’m drunk right now and don’t even know if Babylon is ancient history
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
lol don't worry
Babylon is ancient history
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 15, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
like I wish I knew what hammurabi's code was
I wish I knew what real life events correspond with the bible — as a musician that Jericho shit tends to resonate…
I wish I knew about the rise and fall fo the world’s major empires… about the maccabees and the downfall of the greeks and about the Huns and the Moors and the Turks, what were they called? That was an empire…
OK time to log off and be drunk somewhere else
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
The Turks
were the Ottoman Empire. Went from the 1200s to the 1920s. One of the largest and longest lasting empires in the world.
Don’t worry Simms… no quiz on this tomorrow, but I expect a full report by Monday morning. Lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 15, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Babylon.."Babble-on"..Yep thats what politicians do
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Funny you mention Babylon..
Yesterday, at Gulfstream Park Race track, ‘Road to Babylon’ won the sixth race and paid 278.20 91.00 36.20 (WPS)…the Exacta paid 1233..60…
History, as Gen George Patton said “History..God I love it so”…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Geezus...Promote democracy is easy when you kill everybody I guess...Terrible...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Well, sorry. Didn't mean to sound rude or anything.
Should that have been “my dear fellow Giants fans”?
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.
haha
i was just joshin’ ya
btw…you did a great job. I’m the biggest Barden supporter out there…outside of his immediate family.
Fire Fewell
yes.
He (agent) is out there for him (Barden). You don’t know what it’s like to be HIM (agent) out here for HIM (Barden).
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.
No prob. Barden rules.
Well, kinda…
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.
whaddya mean, YOU PEOPLE
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
whaddya mean, YOU PEOPLE?
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 15, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
what?
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
lol
you win, hahaha
Team TAWD:
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 16, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
"Yo, I don't even know Sam Curd!!!"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He meant "Youse Guys"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
From a DC Giants fan
The hatred for the Cowboys is intense except for all the DC locals who root for the Cowboys. The Redskins were the last team in the NFL to desegregate. Their original owner-George Preston Marshall—was a flat out racist.
A lot of older African-Americans remembers this and root for the Cowboys or whoever else is playing against the ’skins. Kind of weird.
True
I lived in DC for a few years and this was a hot topic, people are FREE to root for whomever they want; but for some reason rooting to the Boys in the DC area is a sin, when in fact the biggest reason most people root for other teams in DC is because of what you stated above. People were turned by the racist owner and that has been passed from generation to generation.
Skins old owner being a flat out racist explains their nickname too.
Good history lesson Giff
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
You know I been watching this game for over 45 years and never knew that..
That is a astounding shock to me..What a scumbag that guy must have been…and I disagree about Cowboy fans..I have had alot of good natured fun with them..So although I love seeing us beating them every chance we get, I’m not going to diss their fans
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
To be fair...
The NFL was ALL segregated up till 1946, teams across the over the years followed slowly started segregating and the last happened to be the 1961 Redskins a total span of 15 years.
Not condoning it but that was a different time and only a few years separate the Redskins from many other teams in the league at the time.
What shocks me is how 50 years later, the black community is still holding on to a grudge that at all levels is just foolish. Of course we have seen similar patterns over the same time line, politically, where regardless of the facts the thinking doesn’t change. Shame really.
by Metalgarn on Dec 15, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well I was brought up differently..My father wouldn't allow disparaging anyone..That was the
Swiftest way to get a kick in the ass..He had no, zero tolerance for that shit..and yes after all these years there should be no grudges..The majority of all races are really great kind people..But every race has it share of dirtbags, and unfortunately they make the most noise and get all the attention..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Dec 15, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like there's a few of us.....
I’m between Baltimore and DC. Hate the skins just because there’s so many fans here, and enjoy the smacktalk. We should try to find a bar sometime and all get together.
Had no idea just how backwards the skins were from the start.
The Giant player the skins would want most????
Thats an easy one, antrel rolle. He’s an over-paid, over-rated veteran that has a great rating on Madden games.
Kevin from Hog's Heaven is a classy dude
What do you think the game plan is against the Gmen. A healthy dose of Helu and work the middle of the field with Moss?
without freddy davis...
Theyll need somebody 2 work the middle.
by jerseydevildog on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
i figured they hit us with slant routes and our secondary looking like this.
by edzilla on Dec 15, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think our entire secondary should be voted to the Pro-bowl..
Then when the plane is over the Pacific at 15,000 feet..throw the bastards out of the plane..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
you're crazy man
I love Webster, TT, Prince … and hopefully next year Tryon.
OK, two of those guys are IR’d …
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well I'll back off on those you noted..The rest take a ride on the fart blimp to the ocean..
And Chad Jones can stay…The rest of them get a free hat, teeshirt and then pushed out of the blimp..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm pushing!
Damn Aaron Ross grabbed a parachute …
our man Ross had a couple good games early in the season then he shut it down … no need to stress those hamstrings.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!...That's the gameplan..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Tough call
Redskins used a 2-back set for the first time all year vs the Pats last week and obviously Pats D struggled to adjust to that having never seen it on film. I expect a heavy dose of Helu and Evan Royster….Lord knows we don’t want the game in Rex’s hands.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
OFF TOPIC HERE
Why don’t the Giants organization switch up uniforms and go back to the old/new uniforms from the Phil Simms era?? Just for one or two games… I want to see Eli with GIANTS on his helmet.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
me too
liked to see it once
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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I like those 80s uniforms way better than that crappy stuff they wear now..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
True
By far one of the uglier uniforms is sported by our Giants. The grey pants are dull and so are the jerseys. Bring back the white pants!
It's still GIANTS Stadium
prefer the white pants, but the Helmets I like the NY better
Giants old helmets look dated now, that was their 80’s vision
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree
And who’s even looking at the pants?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adopted from Raptor 22)
I wore white pants when I played..The coaches always checked to see who had..
Grass stains on their asses..and you had to run laps if you did..White pants are a tell-tale sign of how you played in the game..and if you had no stains on the front of your pants and only grass stains on the ass, you were in big trouble..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah that red shit sucks..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I would've also asked
What do you think about Grossman’s predictions about
1- Skins , flat out, winning the Division
2- Skins being the BEST team in the division.
Rex Grossman said that
Skins fans shouldn’t have to explain a scrubs statement
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Eagles fans have had to answer for VY's "dream team" statement all season
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah but Eagles fans really believed VY's statement till reality hit them
I.E. the regular season started.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
As did most of the media
that is what really irked me.
I kept thinking didn’t Washington try this just a few years ago… has it ever worked for any team?
I’m fine with the predictions…you want a QB that’s confident. The Redskins lost their best OLineman, Cooley, and Tim Hightower all in basically a week….Grossman surely didn’t know that was going to happen and Skins were 3-1 at the time.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 16, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Wish Barry was still here
We could sure use his run stuffing skills
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions
Would like to know if Redskins new safety DeJon is any good?
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions
I heard he is not.
Exhibit A: He was one of the culprits – DHall being the other – who made a business decision by no tackling Gronk on the long pass. DeJon Gomes
yeah Hall looked like he was ready to stroll to the sideline to get him some Gatorade on that play
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
CP3 - coming soon to a Garden near you!
Gomes looks promising so far. How he does the next 3 weeks will decide whether we resign Landry or not (UFA).
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 16, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks to Hogs Heaven
The Skins are my least hated NFC East team. Best man in my wedding is a Skins fan. Never had anything against them and their fans have always been classy, at least the ones I have met. The Cowgirls and Eagles, well, they are the antithesis of my Skins’ sentiment. Looking forward to a good game.
Back in the 80's and early 90's I hated the Skins
Dallas stunk and the Eagles….well I hated them a lot during the Buddy Ryan era. But since the Skins have been bad for so long and it’s been like 20 years since we played them in a meaningful game I went soft and started feeling sorry for Skins fans.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
The feeling is mutual my friend.
Although your team’s ability to spank us for the last ten years has made it slightly more difficult, I have no problem rooting for you against Dallas and Philly. I love the fact that it was the Gmen that ended the Pats run at “perfection”. When you get into the playoffs make sure you knock out the Packers and remind the league what division you are from, the NFC BEAST.
I too am looking forward to an exciting, hard hitting game with no injuries.
Hail
It will be a good game..and I believe the Redskins are moving in the right direction..
Your guys just got hit with injuries..and don’t have the depth yet at key positions..but they’ll fix that and soon will once again become a huge pain in my ass..LOL !!
Oh and what do you think about Fat Albert making a huge contribution to the Bucs??? (NOT)..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
At the start of the season
A lot of us were looking forward to seeing the New England and Minny games. Before we got our chance, both McNabb and Fat Al got cut. Oh well, at least we got some draft picks out of both of them albeit not exactly what we paid for them. Of course something is better than nothing.
Huge contribution indeed. So huge in fact he had one assisted tackle against the Jags. EPIC!! HA!
How was Justin Tryon doing before his injury? I liked him when he was here. Do you think he has a future with the Giants? Has Devin Thomas had any returns as of late?
Hail
Tryon didn't do too much and Devin has been somewhat a disappointment..You know
It’s tough when players who have done well on other teams do well and then teams go after and sign them..Devin on the other hand, has never shown his potential..So IMO they both have been busts..I think your team (Snyder)..Giving that whale such a huge contract with a huge chunk up front..set your team way back..but kudos to Shanahan for sending him packing ..They have faired way better without that jerk..You ever watch him on tape?..When he falls he can’t even get up..But I do feel the Skins are moving forward..Snyder seems to be keeping his wallet shut and letting Shanahan call the shots and Shanahan is no dope..I just hope for our sake they continue their resurgence after 4pm on Sunday LOL !!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Devin never did turn the corner here. What a horid draft year that turned out ot be.
Yeah Fat Boy did like to fall asleep on the field.
Its been great flying under the radar this year by not having any major controversies, at least until Cheech and Chong got suspended. It was great watching the Eagles suffer the way we had in years past . Winning the off season then imploding as the season went on. May those days be gone forever!!
Anyhow, Dallas managed not to choke tonight so our game just got a little more interesting. Its been nice chatting with ya. Take it easy BBV.
glad to hear that BC is doing well in DC
and for the record….
I REALLY hope Little Kyle Shannahan doesn’t make Fewell his bitch….AGAIN.
Fire Fewell
I think it's safe to say
It was Perry’s fault
I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones. - Bill Parcells
Be excellent to each other... and party on, dudes. - Abraham Lincoln
Well the real story with Corey and Rolle is
Nobody new where the hell they were supposed to be. So let’s put the blame where it really belongs. That’s right on Radio 2 vets have no clue where they are supposed to be on this D. That’s FN ridiculous.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Why are the Giants DB's making such a huge ordeal out the Blown coverage on Dez
It’s not like it ’s the first time we have seen them totally blow a coverage and leave a man wide open for a TD.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Why won't god let us beat the Eagles?
by lilgiantadam on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
C'mon
Can’t just give one guy a pass. They are both as guilty or as innocent.
by Truth_Juice on Dec 15, 2011 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm just saying...Webster didn't even wanna talk about it
tried to defer questions.
Rolle went on the radio and was screaming and yelling!
I’m not blamming either one of them….this exercise is actually to blame Fewell.
Fire Fewell
It a sorry state of affairs when a public debate occurs about coverage on one play..
That tells me that the Fewell really stinks..If they were playing any good at all this Dez thing would never have become a debate with media prying responses from players..Every team is going to give up a big play..but in our case it happens all the time..every game..and if you go to a game you see total confusion..stuff you can’t see on TV..It’s ridiculous but I’ll give Corey credit for saying nothing..Funny no one brought up that deep overthrow to Austin that Ross blew coverage on..He released Austin into open territory with no help from anybody..Thank God it was Romo, because Eli would have thrown a strike..and that would have sealed our fate..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
True that it has only happened about 20 times
But these guys are getting pissed at getting torched and made fun of because of this Radio can’t communicate.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
it's also my belief...(and I said this yesterday)
the Giants players are basically trying to point the finger at fewell w/out getting fined by the team….
Fire Fewell
I agree Tuck has hinted at It and Rolle has said as much also
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
I'm shocked that Tommy boy
Has not stepped in and done something to fix this. Maybe telling Radio to dumb it down a little bit. Something anything Tommy can ya hear me.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Haha!!..dumb it down a little??
His defense is about as dumb as it can get..I’d rather TC ask him “What would you do with a brain if you had one?”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That would confuse Radio, too.
Just ask him what he’d do on a given play and then do the opposite of what he says.
Thats right.
If TC wanted a change, or was of the ability to suggest and/or be a part of the changes, he would have,
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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I think everyone has figured out Fewell sucks
When your Defense starts getting compared to Timeah and Sheridan’s D it’s a wrap.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I hope they don't give this clown a pass due to the injuries.
The seasoned vets that are still playing can’t get his shit straight near the end of the second season. Time to go.
They can't even tune in a traffic report on that Radio..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm curious to see how the coaches approach this game
The Redskins are not a good team right now, and everybody knows it. Should the Giants come out and put in an “effort” like the last PHI game and manage to lose, one would have to think coaching changes are pretty likely.
Will the defense look like they have an idea what they are doing? 3 weeks in a row they’ve pushed the meter past “bad” and into “foolish” territory. They’ll get some slack against the Pack / Saints, but less against the Cowboys and none against the Redskins.
On offense I’m interested to see how the run / pass ratio goes, especially if they can go up a TD. Also given the events of the last couple weeks, how they split the carries between backs. Side note:
Bradshaws line for the season: 130 carries / 490 yards / 3.8 avg / 5 TD
Jacobs: 130 carries / 480 yards / 3.7 avg / 7 TD
What a weird path they took to wind up with both guys having almost identical lines…
It feels strange to be at this point in the season and be able to legitamitely argue
A) If the running game keeps looking like it did against the Cowboys, and the defense shows even moderate improvement… you could be looking at a very good team and a very tough out in the playoffs.
or B) They’ve been pretty much bad all year long with only a couple exceptions, and Eli Manning is the only reason this team isn’t about 1-12 right now.
Hope we don't take the Skins lightly
They are a bad offense but the D is pretty good
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
They are going to show up to play..If our team even has an iota of thought overlooking them
Then we’re in deep trouble..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I don't like any other team in our division..
From a fan perspective I like the Skins and Cowboy fans..Eagles fans?..they suck and belong in purgatory forever..I hope they never get a ring..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahaha!! Sorry JimmyK
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
why?
Stand by your belief.
I agree. When comparing fans within the division, they are the biggest bunch of________ (insert adjective here)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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Hahaha..but JimmykK is a rare find in that bunch of moronic Philly fans..
I know one thing I’d go to a game wering my teams colors anywhere but Philadelphia..They can shove their pathetic team and stadium up their collective asses..“Youv’e got that winning feeling..now it’s gone gone gone”..The only reason they go to a game is to see who gets arrested in the stands..They beat the shit out of each other when they accuse each other of being Eagles fans..“What you call me M-fer?..an Eagles fan? !!”..Then the feathers fly..and Vick looks up transfixed “Wow a cock-fight !!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That Vick line at the end was good. :-)
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pedobear?
dude aren’t you guys a bit ashamed of the GGN ask a fan fanpost thread? Holy mack.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 15, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I just checked it out.
Seemed normal and then all of a sudden it was “F you, F this, F the Giants, F the Cowboys.”
I’m starting to enjoy the fact that we have a clear villain in the division. The team and it’s fans both qualify.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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gonna be another tough one
Another NFC east rivalry… always a scray prospect.
In the Meadowlands… where, for some reason, they don’t play all that well.
We are who we are… keep it close then hope Eli has another huge moment left in his arsenal.
Coughlin preaches finishing, and there are 3 games let in the way of the finish line.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
As long as the Giants win, I won't harp on style points
I have already accepted this game will be a nail bitter, just hope Eli doesn’t leave more than 30 sec’s on the clock when he has to do his magic to pull the game out.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Please win this week
The Redskins used to be the team I least hated in the division, but after a decade living down here I find myself rooting for the Cowboys and – GASP!- Eagles whenever they play the Skins.
At least you have jorgensen on radio, he is really entertaining to listen too...all he
ever seems to want is for the Skins to show up. By the way, does the “Zabe” still have a radio show there?
Sonny is tolerable
Sam Huff is just kinda sad to listen to. Larry Michaels on play-by-play is decidedly meh.
Listening to Czabe as we speak. By far and away the only thing tolerable on DC sports radio.
From MG:
Told a defense designed as Webster and Rolle played it is a poorly-drawn-up scheme, Webster just looked around and at the ceiling, refusing to answer.
We take you back to earlier in the interview for the between-the-lines stuff.
“It doesn’t matter how (good) you are in the defense, you have to communicate well,” Webster said. “It doesn’t matter if you’re on the sidelines or on the field. Everybody needs to be in one accord.”
Okay, so everybody is to blame so far. Continue…
“We can’t have plays coming in and signals coming in that aren’t right,” he said.
Ahhh, that sounds like he’s pointing more toward the guys on the sideline with the headsets. But we’re not done yet…
“And once you get the signals, you have to translate to everybody else on the field,” Webster said. “Everybody has to be echoing whatever needs to be said. That’s going to help us take that out. As long as we don’t do that, we’re going to always stand the chance to make mistakes like that.”
Well, that seems to be Webster’s way of saying he didn’t get a check. From Rolle? From one of the linebackers? From Bryant? Who knows?
Fire Fewell
It's a damn shame
@nd year in this system and It’s mass confusion. Unbelievable really. Just think if we had a middle of the road D
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
That's the sad thing..summed up with the final million dollar question.."Who knows?"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
it's like a TV show
“who shot JR?”
or if you prefer movies:
“Who ordered the Code Red?!”
BUT…the reason it became such a big topic was b/c Rolle went on the radio and aired out Collinsworth…once that happened it was over.
Fire Fewell
I make alot of fun of Collingsworth..but
He was a pretty damn good receiver..So I hate players shitting on ex-players..Even Boley dissing Harry Carson..that pissed me off too when he did that last year..These punks that now are NFL players can’t wipe the butts of these stars that played the game..They weren’t even born most of them..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
the truth is...
to the naked eye…it looks like a cover 2 and rolle got eaten up. Can’t blame Collinsworth.
MG even said it today in one of his write ups: Boley last minute was getting Antrel’s attention to check off the play. Which i believe was originally Cover 2…switched to a Cover 3
problem was, Webster was Jamming Dez at the line and never got the check…he was still playing Cover 2.
that’s exactly what happened IMO.
but Rolle…and I can understand why he was hot, wanted to clarify that it wasn’t on him. which it wasn’t. Instead of saying that it was a last minute check off…he said he was disguising Cover 2 as Cover 3. Rolle really wasn’t trying to blame anyone…even Fewell, but in the process it looked like he threw Webster under the bus.
Webster held his tongue when they asked him about the “scheme” of the play, but he said he was playing where he thought he was supposed to.
I’m calling it right now, if Fewell doesn’t pitch a shoutout the rest of the way, he’s gone at the end of the season. Playoffs or no playoffs.
and now i think i’m officially done w/ the topic.
Fire Fewell
I bet dollars to donuts that's exactly what happened.
And I agree about Fewell. The giants have finger on the pulse of the fans, and if they’re on the fence about him, I think we’d push them over.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Those calls are made by KP
Since he’s been out, two blown assignments in two straight weeks.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I thought most of these football players were communication majors in college
or playground sports/lawn care majors. Why is communication so tough for them.
The Giants need to sign London Fletcher at the end of the season
He’s a free agent. He could be AP 2.0.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
He's leading the NFL in tackles at 36
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
JR give be bucks to a 40 year old LB
That will be the day
by Late for Dinner on Dec 15, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
That won't happen..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
^^^ this.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 16, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
I know we are all happy about beating the girls..but..
It was pretty ugly and luck had alot to do with walking out of there with a win..but we gave up 34 points and it took a miraculous play by JPP to seal it..There is nothing wrong rejoicing a win that gives our guys the driver seat..but we need to level-set and realize how close that game came to being another loss…I am tired of hearing “We’ll fix it”..They haven’t fixed anything all season on defense..and why did it take until last Sunday to show up with a O-line that had some idea of how to block?..and get a decent running game going?..Finally?..Well at least the offense seems to have patched up flaws..but the defense has done nothing..If somebody came up to me and said the Giants scored 24 points and lost I’d tell them they must be on dope..because our defenses back then didn’t give up squat..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Don't know if anyone else mentioned this
but London Fletcher is a FA. Hope the skins are dumb and don’t resign him. I’d love for us to scoop him up.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Haslett already said Fletcher will be back
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 16, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like the TEXANS TEMPLATE
post was taken down. Anyone know why?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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Post
Hey Tommy, I took it down because cntr was trolling along in it. All he wanted to do was argue (without any substance) everything I posted and all of my replies. You made some very good points in it and I thank you for your responses.
After the season when we see that the defense will have prevented this Giants team from being great I will post about a new DC that must bring in an entirely new scheme. GMs always look to see what other teams are doing and what works and what did not. The Texans are a great template for the Giants to follow but first they will have to find the right 3-4 DC.
Thanks for letting me know.
The topic has been done a couple of times around here but I for one and always interested in that debate. And judging by the amount of comments your post got, others are interested, too.
See you around the Big Blue View….
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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Fewell
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
by Drizzzy on Dec 15, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
oh lol wrong page....
fail
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Meh
Still applicable
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
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