Reasons The Giants Can Beat the 49'ers, and Reasons to be Cautious

Mostly vodka, gin or scotch.

I’ll be tippin’ and sippin’ bourbon A J.
Unfortunatly, I will be on the road and not in front of a TV.

Please don’t drink and drive. We need you here.

The 49’ers don’t have as much strength in the DB’s and they have a ripe rookie in the mix for Eli to pick on.

Eli reads and reacts to the blitz as well as any QB in football and he will exploit mismatches and stretch the field.

The 49’ers have not face that kind of QB with a deep WR corps who can all make a big play anytime. They faced Megatron but he’s a one man show over there. With the Giants, who do you cover?

Eli could have a big passing day.

But I have some dogfish head IPAs waiting for me while I watch, get drunk, and then go out at night and get more drunk

Not sure anyone saw Alex smith coming. I’ve been looking forward to this matchup for awhile, I just get the feeling that there aren’t that many teams beyond the Packers that stand head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC, and after them I look to these two to see who will contend for it.

it’s a pretty impressive list. Cinci, TB, DET, WAS, all have good defenses.

Just sayin’ :-)

I am quietly confidant, however the Giants being the Giants I am not used to them winning without drama

Eek. I dunno about that one.

The 49ers defense has at least 5 players that analysts have described as playing at an “all-pro” level. Justin Smith (DE), Ray McDonald (DE), Patrick Willis (ILB), Navorro Bowman (ILB) and Carlos Rogers (CB).

but all of them in the first half.

And I can’t disagree, Tuck does not look like himself. I will still hold out hope for him staying on the field, feeling better week to week, and becoming more like himself down the stretch

Vernon Davis going up against our defense? Or against Rolle, in particular? Davis has been used as a blocker mostly this year because, in the words of the Niner fans on here, the pass blocking has not been great at the Tackle position.

He is averaging under 4 catches per game, and the 31 catches he has on the year have been spread out over the 8 games they have played.

I suppose if we are getting pressure on Smith, Davis will stay in to block most of the time, but I worry about our ability to cover the better TE’s in the league. And Davis qualifies.

And you see Rolle possibly covering him, so who is in the slot? Coe, Prince, both?

I’m just curious as to your thoughts…

Morgan is out for the year

Every defense is trying to do the same thing against the 49ers offense, it works to some degree when the run defense is really good on the other side. I don’t think that’s the Giants, so I expect the 49ers to get their 20-24 points, it’ll really just be up to the Giants offense to put up that 25+.

That will be the battle and it should be an interesting one. If the Giants do go the 3 wide set, then I hope the 49ers stay in the nickel. The 4 man rush out of the nickel has been very good and consistent in getting pressure, hits and sacks, particularly if McDonald is back. The weakness is to the deep side of the field that Whitner lines up on, and some-what to the flat that Bowman lines up on ( he’s still a bit shaky in pass defense ).

The 49ers got their “best 11” figured out toward the end of the Eagles game, it includes rookie Culliver and Aldon Smith, as well as Goldson being healthy. Since then they have looked really consistent and with only 3 “tough” games remaining on the schedule, definitely looking forward to a good passing offense coming in and seeing what they can do. If the Giants can exploit them, so be it, will stop them from getting full of themselves on defense.

The biggest difference between Giant fans and 49er fans right now ( my entire family are Giants fans, I know them very well! ) is that the 49ers schedule gets so easy, that they are going to be in the playoffs, and could even get a 1st round bye just by beating the bad teams in the division ( though upsets happen ). Giants fans still know the late season collapses that often rear their ugly heads, and they have a tough schedule. Fans don’t want to get ahead of themselves and get burned by a 3 game losing streak. 49er fans can bask a little right now and look ahead to playoff match-ups.

:)

So this is not that much for us. Like that other post Veterans VS Upstarts. We also just beat a very efficient veteran team at their own house that no on has done in years. Our team has much bigger heart and guts. Furthermore, we want it more.

I agree, I want them to have more chances to be on the field and develop confidence and rhythm in the defense.

We’ll be facing Brees and Rodgers who have offenses that like to spread it out. Defending these spread offenses means we need depth at CB ready to deploy, playing more man coverage and not soft zones off the line.

That way our pass pressure can disrupt the QB before he can find an easy soft open slat or receiver in space. The you have a chance to force a sack or a turnover.

So as a matter of gearing up the stretch run, I think getting more experience and CB depth behind Webster and Ross will be key. Prince should be able to play effective man coverage, and if he can do that, Rolle can provide more support from the safety position and not have his stiff hips abused.

VD is not the #1 target anymore, he blocks most of the time. Crabtree has become the clear #1 target with Braylon being out. He’s back now, so we’ll see how it goes. Walker was the #1 target for a couple of games. They mix it up, but it’s not like they pass enough to have guys getting 8-10 targets every game.

And just to put it in perspective, every fanbase and every media analyst has said that the defense going into the game is going to try to shut down the run and force Alex to throw deep, but ultimately that plan only worked for the Seahawks in week 1 when the offensive line was a complete mess, and the Bengals in week 3, who have a great rush defense.

Since then it’s been 100+ yard rushing games for Gore, mediocre, but barely enough, passing.

And don’t worry about peppered over the top stuff. They do not throw over the top. There might be 2 or 3 passes that go more than 15 yards in the air, but they won’t be over the top. They’ll be between 2nd and 3rd level defense.

Let the fans of the upstart 49ers and the players think they are god’s gift to nfc this year.

:-)

Listen, We have played some pretty good backs and have got gashed pretty good, but to say we can’t stop the run means you don’t really understand how our D works. Our D is going to give up some big runs there is no doubt about that, however most of the game your not going to be able to run on us. If Alex Smith can’t throw on us I really don’t see you guys having a chance. Same with the offense, although you will stop us most of the day from running we are going to break a few on you. However if your secondary can’t cover our recievers we are going up and down the field on you and stopping the run won’t matter.

so I put stats, now they say they’re just stats

49ers won the game now, and what do I see from you, reasons why the win wasn’t real.

who is the delusional fan here?

enable you to make final assessments is not the same thing.

In baseball, stats can tell you 90% of what you need to know about a player’s performance. It’s a game of identifiable, measurable individual events.

In football, since what happens on the field is much more about a group event, with 22 guys all interacting for a few seconds with each other. . . stats maybe tell you, on average, 50% of what you need to know. They tell you more about some positions than others (QB, WR, RB). Plus, since football is about a group event, team scheme and the ability to coordinate one’s efforts with 10 other guys matter, and some guys can beast in one scheme and bust in another.

You can look at football stats for players, but they’re not enough to draw conclusions on about players or make comparisons among players, from one team and one scheme to the next.

your LBs are your strength, you’d rather have more base sets out there with more LBzers. The less LBs, the less your strength is out there.

and keep 3rd downs manageable.

That’s very backwards for a traditional Giants team, but that’s where the team has evolved based on everyone development so far.

But they’ll still run the ball 25 times per game and make some yards and burn you with play action a couple of times because the run will have to be respected, if not particularly feared in its own right.

With those goals, the Giants can and will run on the 9ers nickel. They’ll also mix in a couple of HB screens to mimic the run but keep the defense guessing.

Rogers is the same dude.