'Kudos & Wet Willies,' Terrible Tuesday Edition

The rest of the team (except the names mentioned above in the kudos) should be ashamed and embarrassed.

simply for toughing out the game after getting dinged up in the legs and and ribs.

A huge Wet Willie to Acme Packing Company, for putting on an Eli bashing that puts the other NFC East blogs to shame. I was not aware he violated every one of them so severely at some point that they harbour such resentment.

In the pre-game show, he said the Giants were a “middling team.” Correct!

BBV itself gets a Kudos, as most the guys kept things within the rules of posting last night, with a few noted exceptions. I was fairly impressed at how little clean up I had to perform this morning on the gamethread and post-game threads.

to everyone asking for darell scott. Guess we wont/shouldn’t be hearing his name again

Extra wet willies to both HCs for running plays inside the final 2 minutes and risking injuries in a blowout. Especially to ours though for having Eli in there throwing in the final seconds.

TC gets another WW for lacking guts and not trying an onside kick following our score right after halftime. If we were gonna have a chance, it was gonna have to be a shootout. We needed to try and steal a possession and get it to 17-21.

At least SOMEBODY out there other than Eli and JPP showed some emotion.

Also, it doesn’t deserve a Kudos, but I’ve been impressed with Barden. When he’s gotten on the field and gotten a look, he’s made it count. He’s been quick, fast, run decent routes, and played BIG.

UGH. I feel like the team is talented (Except at LB) and is being hugely misused (not ignoring boneheaded things like Nicks not staying inbounds, Scott fumbling, Ballard giving up a TD) by the coaching staff. Fewell clearly has no clue how to utilize his players. That first defensive series was atrocious even if it didn’t end up yielding a score.

As for Gilbride…what more can be said at this point? I remember watching our first offensive play, a handoff to BJ deep in our own territory, seeing him dance around and try to bounce it off tackle (if I’m remembering correctly) and just knowing, KNOWING at that point that we were not going to be competitive in the game.

I think the calls for Coughlin’s head at this point are appropriate. We keep saying he’s a “good coach,” but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and this is NOT a well-coached team.

The Giants are what they are:

Compare them to the elite teams and Giants do not match up.

First, no emotion and no physical play.
Not prepared defensively.
No pass rush and no push up the middle.
Ballard is a nice surprise but is a slow tight end.
Nicks is good but does not make big plays enough (goes out of bounds twice)
Running backs do not make anyone miss and no speed.
Receivers drop at least 3-5 passes per game.
Offensive line is offensive.
Kiwi is solid against the run and rushing the passer but slow in coverage.
Safeties are slow and do not hit.
When was the last time we had a penalty for hitting a receiver ?
No return game to speak of.
Defense is not agressive.
Overall Giants are a team in transition.
Need Spags to get fired and return to the Giants.
No leader in the locker room as they play flat, this was pointed out by Gruden.
No urgency.
Just a few thought as the season goes dwon the drain

Pass defense has been an issue and concern all year (and quite frankly last year as well). We allowed Rex Grossman and Charlie Whitehurst to look like all-pros – what did you think Drew Brees would do to us?

Against the Pats, we rushed 4, instead of 3 and blitzed with man-coverage. It worked. Why go back to Cover 2 rushing only 3?

I would have stayed up and made another round of drinks if it had even been a contest, which would have made this work day less productive.

I was hoping that if the season started to slide like this, that they would at least get to see what they had in Da’Rell Scott, since they are going to need answers at the RB position next year. Too bad for everyone that the blocking isn’t even good enough to evaluate talent.

Ironic when you consider the team is looking more and more like one of those hapless ones fron the Wilderness Years.
And yes, the prospects for the current coaching regime lasting beyond the current season seems dim. Except for the OL, this team has enough talent to make the playoffs, although some of the younger players are still in the developmental stage.
What is most frustrating is the inconsistency. The team played well against SF and followed up with stinker in the following games.
The coaching staff must bear much of the blame for what we’ve seen this season.

But what happened last night is exactly what we thought would happen. We’ve had this game (and the next) pencilled in as a loss in our minds since the schedule was released. The Giants knew this part of the schedule was going to be tough. Yes, I’m embarssed on their behalf for that performance last night, but this isn’t the game that made me angry. They are in this position of missing the playoffs once again because they didn’t get it together to beat the Redskins, Seahawks and the Eagles (again). You HAVE to win the “easy” games knowing that you’re going to take some losses with that second-half murderer’s row schedule, and hope for an upset like the Pats game. Specifically, it’s that Seahawks game that still makes me sick. We’re not dead, but we’ve got the death rattles.

Maybe it will be a blessing in disguise for us to miss the playoffs. The coaching staff, O-Line, running backs and pass defense need to be blown up and rebuilt. I’ve been watching (mostly) bad football for three straight years. I want some fire.

Eli’s numbers can be misleading – results of the Giants first 8 posessions last night: INT, FG, punt, punt, end of half, TD, fumble, downs.

By the time Eli started putting up big numbers we were down 35-10 late in the 3Q and it was a no contest.

Last week I trashed him for not helping Eli against the blitz. This week, he came out throwing, and added in the slants, real screens, short backshoulders, and everything else we have been asking for. With a makeshift line we did pretty well.

It’s getting too much to ignore the fact that Cruz drops a ball every week. Every week. Every week. That has to stop. This game fell apart on poor individual efforts once again. At some point players have to be held accountable for their failures. I would not give them any off days this week. Maybe just have them run all day long.

for getting stiff armed by drew brees.

Zone defense requires intelligence. Maybe we need to get on the same page. The first TD we gave up, Ross is several feet inside the WR. The WR breaks outside. Did not take a genius to see that coming. Because I noticed it, and I am not a genius.

“Off of what I have seen I certainly can’t say Fewell should be at the top of the list of candidates if and when the Giants remove Coughlin.”

If Coughlin gets fired (really when; is there anyone who still thinks Coughlin deserves to keep his job if the Giants miss the playoffs? Is there anyone who thinks the Giants will make the playoffs?), if he is replaced by Fewell there would be a riot. If there’s anyone on the staff who appears to get less out of his players than Coughlin, it’s Fewell. At least Coughlin can take partial credit for the offense.

20 years before I was born..

For being the only person that actually was smart enough to realize that we COULD NOT punt the ball in that situation!!!! If we did, the game was definately lost.

It was STILL THE THIRD QUARTER and we are down 25 and we are going to PUNT? Yeah, we sucked, but it WAS conceivable if we could score we could still be back in the game with a quarter to go.

I don’t blame him for taking off, at least they guy was trying to win. What diff does it make if we don’t make it, what does it matter if we lose by 50 or 25. An L is and L, try and WIN the game as Herm says.

No way we can punt the ball back to Brees in that spot without admitting surrender.

Is made of balsa wood.

Are either scheduled to return prior to Dallas game?

I want to sue the Giants for the damn heart ach they put me through every year!! I have a family history of heart issues and I can’t take it no more!!!!

in each drive last night, once we crossed the 50 (or msaybe sooner) we should have gone for it. What did we have to loose? A loss is a loss wheteher it is by 25 or 40. When we punted with two minutes left in the first half, we knew it meant being down by 18 at the half. Our defense could not stop anything NO was doing.

Of all the “defenseless” hits I’ve seen this year, he is the only one I’ve seen care what happened to the WR. It’s one thing to play tough, but you still have to be human. The Saints DB seemed to think it was funny that Nicks was hurt. Classless.

will be a little scared of this game. The Giants have a way of losing
and winning when no one expects it.

Capabilities of returning injured MLB, CBs and RB could also prove difficult.

justin tuck and brandon jacobs.. Tuck just looked slow and pathetic and hung his head. didnt talk to anyone on the side line. WHAT THE HELL KIND OF CAPTIAN is that? i dont care if he is injured… his mouth isnt. I think somebody menitoned in the previous post, remember wath strahan said to the O-line on the final drive.. “one touch down we are world champions” Tuck doesnt say a word to his OWN line. No leadership here. Jacobs. He is not bradshaw, scott, or ware.. he has got to stop… stopping then going.. he is a huge rock rolling down hill.. he needs to run forward only.. no side step crap. Giants need to get it together… i doubt it will be this year..

how about Andy Reid as our next head coach, Spags for DC and whoever is up and coming on NO, GB, NE for OC.

Is the best fit out there.

He would be a rock star in this town. He likes to pound the rock, he loves a franchise QB. It all works.

twice i think we still get in the playoff. I know its hard to see but r d will get better.

not for his TDs but for his classy behavior after those 2 TDs. When your team is getting trounced you don’t celebrate in the end zone.

what a disgrace. The Patriots used a backup WR at DB against the Eagles. In a one on one situation against Young, Adelman squared his shoulders and made a picture perfect form tackle. How does a seasoned defensive player look that silly?

remember we just gotta pass dallas & they dont look amazing either beating miami by a 1 wich miami miss 2 fg’s & we still play them twice.

Especially with all those injuries, how can anyone think we are a talented football team? Names mean nothing. Tuck was once a great player; now he’s useless. Osi almost useless last 3 games. Where is the talent on our Defense? LB’s rooks who cant play in space. Safeties too slow. And O -Line cant block for a mack truck.

Would make Perry Fool a head coach. The guy can’t manage or coordinate the defense how the hell is he gonna manage a whole team. I hope I never hear his name mentioned as a candidate for the Giants head coach position

I have been a big supporter of TC because of his work ethic, standards, support of wounded warriors, cancer care and his loyalty to his players ans staff. Keep in mind, if the change is made, it could take a couple of years to see any improvement (e.g. Shannahan) unless you truly have the right guy and staff (e.g. Harbaugh, Tomlin).

Pls no more pipe dream talks about playoffs….let’s just go in to every game expecting to lose that way if we do it does feel like someone pondering on our heads with sleg hammers..and if we win we might feel greatly another team had a bad day.

Honestly, while watching the game, the Saints offense and Brees audibled at the line of scrimmage, the Giants defense just stood in their alignment and no defensive player countered what Brees had audibled. On other defenses there are middle linebackers and players screaming to counter what the offense is doing.

And I like Coughlin, but the Niners are a perfect example of how a coach makes a difference and impacts a team.

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Young HC with something to prove>Coughlin>cowher