Memo To Perry Fewell: Release The Kraken!
by Ed Valentine on Nov 28, 2011 9:25 AM EST
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PrintWhen New York Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell met with the media Friday in advance of the team's critical Monday Night Football game against the New Orleans Saints he was asked about the team's missing pass rush. To be honest, I was disturbed by Fewell's responses.
Fewell was asked "How important is the pass rush in terms of disrupting [New Orleans quarterback] Drew Brees?'
"If we don't do that, then we minimize our opportunity to win," Fewell said. "The front four is vitally important. We've said to them, ‘Hey, if we're going to be successful in this ballgame, you have to come through for us.' "
He was then asked why the pass rush has struggled in recent weeks. The Giants' 31 sacks were tied for the league lead entering play in Week 12, but the team has just three sacks in the last five games.
Fewell's response?
"I can't put my finger on it, but I do think we can return [to that form] and we can rush these guys [the Saints]. They have a good offensive line, don't get me wrong. They have a good, solid offense, period. There's really no weak links on that offense, but we just have to watch the occasion and our d-line has to come through for us," Fewell said.
Kraken Attack (via cyberleader23)
So, the defensive coordinator realizes that "If we don't do that [rush the passer], then we minimize our opportunity to win," but "can't put my finger on it" when asked why the pass rush has been stifled the past few weeks.
Well, I think I can come up with a big part of the reason. I think many of you here at Big Blue View have been talking about it for weeks, as well. It's time to RELEASE THE KRAKEN! It is my belief that Fewell has been holding that group back the past few weeks.
This is my biggest issue with Fewell, a good defensive coordinator who could be a great one if he would simply allow his defense to play to its strengths rather than try to play to his system.
All of the zone coverage that is such a staple of Fewell's defense does not allow corners like Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas before he got hurt and now Prince Amukamara to do what they do best -- press and cover. It exposes inexperienced linebackers who often have to make quick decisions about what gaps to fill in pass coverage, and often make the wrong ones. It exposes slow safeties who can't quite get to their spots fast enough to fill some of those holes a Cover 2 type scheme can leave. It exposes a team with injuries and rotating personnel that sometimes does not communicate well in the secondary.
Much of that, though, can be overcome by a fierce pass rush that does not give a quarterback time to exploit those deficiencies. Terrorizing quarterbacks is what the Giants are built for. General manager Jerry Reese collects pass rushers like they were rare gold coins. The Giants have Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul and Mathias Kiwanuka, plus some good defensive tackles, and some defensive backs who have proven successful at pressuring the quarterback when blitzing off the edge.
Yet, just three sacks in the last five games. Philadelphia quarterback Vince Young could have read 'War And Peace' at times while standing in the pocket a week ago. Why?
Well, it starts with Fewell's apparently having fallen in love with the three-man pass rush. I don't have numbers on how many times the Giants have employed it, but every time it is used is one time too many. The defensive coordinator says "If we don't do that [rush the passer], then we minimize our opportunity to win." He then intentionally employs a three-man pass rush that negates the thing his defense does best, and minimizes the opportunity to win.
Then there is the use of Jason Pierre-Paul at the nose tackle in that three-man line. That is a misuse of the guy who might well be the Giants' best defensive end with Tuck seemingly limited by the variety of injuries he has suffered this season. JPP has 10.5 sacks, but gets swallowed up playing inside.
There were also whispers -- or maybe more than whispers -- from some players last week that the Giants did not adjust to the max protection schemes of the Eagles. It's simple -- you can't rush three or four when the opposition is protecting with seven or eight and get pressure on the quarterback. It is simply not going to happen.
Yes, the Giants have wonderful pass-rushing defensive lineman. But, they need some help. Fewell has never been the most creative coordinator in terms of designing blitzes, but the Giants simply have got to send more people at the quarterback on a more consistent basis.
Trust your corners, Perry. Make it easier on your linebackers by allowing them to cover a man instead of having to make decisions on where or what to cover. Most of all, give your pass-rushers a chance to evening the odds.
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!
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Perry, Finger this!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 28, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thats gotta be the coolest animation ever created.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
releasing the krakken is one thing
deliberating keeping it shackled is another. I’ve become numb to it so I ain’t getting pissed anymore, but rushing 3 guys with JPP at NT is where you might want to point your finger instead of keeping it up your ass Perry
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Couldn't agree more.
We all argue incessantly on this board, but on this I think we are all agreed. He can’t pit his finger on it? SMH
by nygmen123 on Nov 28, 2011 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
rec'd because its true
flagged because I pictured Fewell fingering his ass.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve become numb to it so I ain’t getting pissed anymore,
Exactly what i was thinking as I was commenting on Festers GIF above. I think it most are.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I agree!
Fewell seems to be worried about having the player personnel fit into his system, which is way too complicated, than to just play to the players strengths! With these young rookies LB’s they just need simple schemes that will keep them in front of the Offenses! I’m hoping that this will be a wake up game! Truth is, is that we CAN beat NO! We still have that much talent to do it!
by oldschoolblue64 on Nov 28, 2011 9:51 AM EST reply actions
Terrell Suggs
did anyone see Suggs’ interview after the Thursday night game? About his DC, Suggs said he’s great at utilizing the players at their strength. Unfotunately, our staff does the opposite.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
If Fewell only rushes three ONCE,
it’s one time too many.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
I dont mind if he throws a change up and rushes 3
but it has to be the correct 3.
JPP == Canty/Anvel == Osi
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
or maybe show blitz and rush 3
create some god damn confusion for the other team
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I guess that would be okay too
If an untrained eye (me) can predict when the Giants are only rushing three, the best QBs in the game will notice that too and will audible to a play that will work better for them. That’s what’s frustrating.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
EXACTLY
PF causes no confusion. Even when he blitzes it’s telegraphed. Put 7 on LOS then at the snap drop 2. Move around the blitz. ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perry Fewell Stinks!
frustrating part is
that’s is what he did so well in the first half against the Pats… then….
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Fewell IS doing this by design...
but not to unleash the dogs of hell on Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers.
in fact, he rushes 3 to prepare for these teams. He gonna drop everyone back into coverage…and prolly zone coverage as well.
TeamJPP
Well if he does that
We will get torched by Brees
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Bum Phillips
once said of another coach " he can take his’n and beat yorn, and he can take yorn and beat his’n."
A great coach looks at his personnel and builds a system to utilize their strengths. It drives me crazy to hear about coaches who have “their system”. Idiotic!
Nice dig up there blumag
I remember that one.
But, what coach are we talking about?
To the point on Fewell and his defense: If Tom Coughlin wanted something changed, as in, don’t ever rush less than four, play less zone and more man, he would get what he wanted.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NO 27
Bring back Spagnuolo
Ive heard there’s a good chance SpagnuoloIve will get fired soon.:
by Colefaulk982 on Nov 28, 2011 10:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Take him in a heart beat after the ink dries from his firing.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 28, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Where have you heard that?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NO 27
As a head coach maybe...
What do you call a head coach who sucks at picking his coaching staff, sucks at manipulating the refs to throw the yellow flag in his team’s favor when there is a questionable no-call on the field, sucks at utilizing young talent except in case of injuries, and sucks at doing anything innovative or unexpected against opposing teams?… You get a lame duck HC who will have a team that is easy to game plan against and a team that will be see thru like fishnet stockings. Old man Coughlin needs to go collect his Social Security and give the coaching thing a rest. Most of the good teams in the league have young, innovative coaches with new ideas and that’s what is shaping the modern schemes in the NFL today. Coughlin and his old friend Gilbride are two old dogs who are too stuck in their ways to try something new.
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Spags has done a great job in St. Louis
he’d be a great HC candidate.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Steve Spagnuolo may be fired
I was talked about on both CBS and Fox pregame show this week. If so get him in Blue before Philly get him back
Philly can have him
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I just found it funny
That he specifically said that our front four is vitally important when the plays we hate most do not even have a front four.
Its kind of like
Playing a video game where you have your super gun juiced all the way to the max but you dont use it because you like the way the lil pee-shooter(which doesnt do much damage btw)shoots & does its light damage that when BLOCKED, its pretty much rendered useless. Come on Fewell….ITS TIME TO FIRE THE SUPER GUN!!!
by Nicks4Six on Nov 28, 2011 10:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
BFG?
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Referendum
If we see the Gameplan PF used against Peyton Manning last year he should be fired immediately.
Any GM and viable DC in the NFL would love to have the Giants Pass rush talent. It is time they Use it correctly!
Just remember Spags shut down the Saints offense with a terrible team.
And if Gilbride abandons the run He should be fired.
This game is a referendum on the DC and OC which ultimately means the HC.
How does a Cowher / Norv Turner OC/ Spags DC coaching staff sound for 2012!?
Well I would rather
They recover, go on a run, win some playoff games. Maybe that’s just me though.
Besides, Cowher is overrated. You take away his consistent pummeling of the Browns and Bengals and he is a .500 coach. I’d rather have Billick, who was involved with a record setting offense and a record setting defense.
by Vic Rattlehead on Nov 28, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Billick lol
no way, Billick has the second best defense in history and won only 1 superbowl. Cowher is overrated it took him over a decade to win a SB and now he’s considered a legend? Good coach, not great.
Why not give Spags the HC job if its available? The fact that the Rams won 7 games last year is insane.
Overrated
it took TC 12 years to win a SB. 15 as a HC if you include his years at BC
It took Cowher 14 years. Cowher never had the luxury of having two great QB. Tom did. TC had a very good QB in Jax and a great QB in NY. Cowher was blessed with Neil O’Donnel, Tomczak, Stewart and Maddox.
It’s no a coincidence he won his first SB when he finally had a great QB.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Coughlin never had the luxury of an all time great defense
which Cowher had year in and out.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Cowher had a dominant D and a great running game
which is all it took to win a SB in the pre-passing craze, 90’s/early 2000’s NFL. Coughlin took an expansion team to the AFC championship game…
And no, I don’t include TC’s years at BC in the time it took him to win a SB…because he can’t win a SB at BC…wtf? lol
yea I dunno what Coughlin's years at BC have to do with anything
Cowher didn’t win a god damn thing with the Eagles in 1979 right through with the Cheifs in 1991, so lets include that if we’re being fair (and its no surprise that ^ isn’t being fair).
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
BC
I agree. However, I mentioned it because it’s still HC experience.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Couldn't agree more on Billick and Cowher
Which is why Cowher is being so picky about his next job because he knows his rep is shaky and making another team’s fanbase wait another 10 years is unacceptable. he also wants to work for an organization that is not cheap when it comes to keeping talent.
even without games vs Browns and Bengals
he won 60% which is higher than TC
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Billick is a terrible choice
an offensive “genius” who had nothing but a terrible offense in Baltimore.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
How does a Cowher / Norv Turner OC/ Spags DC coaching staff sound for 2012
The OC sounds great. The defensive coordinator sounds annoying cuz he was a big reason for the breakdowns and predictability that ended 2008.
The head coach sounds like shit.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Blue I can only wish
Cowher, Turner, Spags would be a perfect fit here. You want to see Eli put up crazy Peyton like numbers? They would have this team firing on all cylinders and maybe we can win another Superblow.
by NYG86-90-07 on Nov 28, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I've been defending Fuel alot but this....
I can’t put my finger on it…
HOLY CRAP.
Really? REALLY?
I’m starting to get really concerned for him because it appears to me that either he doesn’t have eyes, or they don’t work.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:21 AM EST reply actions
He is really starting to disappoint
I beg of you radio don’t rush 3 and for phucks sake no more JPP at Nose tackle.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
If friggin' FANS can notice why you aren't getting pressure
….shouldn’t you? Unless he’s playing dumb to lure the Saints in a trap. In which case, I’ll take it.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if he is playing dumb
Or just is. We will find out tonight.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Look guys...
The reason he is doing that is because:
1. The rush isn’t getting to the qb fast enough
2. Our rookie/ special teamers/ linebackers need help.
He wouldn’t be doing it if he didn’t think he had to. When we rushed 4 against VY, what happened? Not a whole lot and RILEY COOPER burned our secondary. If you were PF, you’d be scratchin’ your head too.
what's to defend?
A serious question. Look at our loses. How many of our loses did PF play a significant role in his game plan and play calling?
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Our defense played well enough to win the Philly game
and perhaps the Redskins game. We lost Boley, and the 49ers scored two touchdowns on the ensuing drives off of LB mistakes.
So if Boley is uninjured…3 out of our 4.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly!!!!!
PF knows what he’s doing but you can’t cut off his arms and legs and expect him to act like “it’s just a flesh wound”. He’s trying to use scheme to cover up our gaping weaknesses. Also, the offense needs to start sooner. You can’t keep putting out defense out there for 3/4 of a game and hope the offense finally figures it out. Truth of the matter is if our receivers caught just a few more passes. If Manningham lays out for that bomb, if Ballard drops a few less passes and Cruz catches a few more… we are having a different conversation this week.
Fewell will be fired if
there isn’t a major turn around and the D starts acting like beasts. He’s just not a great
coordinator.
I agree with you.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
And will be taking Clawfin with him me thinks
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I'd be pissed if Coughlin is fired.
Wouldn’t bother me in the least if things don’t change and Fewell is gone.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
What is the matter with you guys???
What is the love affair with old man Coughlin all about? If a HC doesn’t know how to pick the right personnel, then ultimately he will suck!! The Giants are in the predicament they are in because of the choices the head coach makes and TC’s choice in a Special Teams coach sucks, his choice in an OC is weak, his choice in a DC has sucked and is weak now, his choice in Strength and Conditioning coach sucks…. Do I have to say more about who this senile old idiot chooses to surround himself with If all these guys suck and don’t have a clue, guess what… HE DOESN’T HAVE A CLUE EITHER! His pass for winning us a SB is expired. Fire the friggin guy after this season
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 28, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
well maybe because he's had the best record in the NFC since 2005?
Or he won a Superbowl?
Or we haven’t had a losing season in forever?
Or we’ve been to the playoffs in 4 of the last 6 seasons?
Or that we went 10-6 last year?
Or that despite becoming the most injured team in the NFL playing a secondary that’s only being held together with wet duct tape, we are 6-4, with all of our 4 loss being close and coming down to the last minute?
Or that there are no better replacements out there?
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
stop talking sense its gameday
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
my bad, I forgot.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
The reason we have always had winning seasons
Is because we’ve always had a descent amount of talent on our roster and we’ve always had the first half of our seasons be pretty easy. It takes a lot of skill AND luck to win a championship in the NFL and 2007 was a really lucky year for us, just look at how we won that SB. Nowadays, toward the end of the season, skill, game planning, and execution have to be relied on more than luck. TC isn’t really having luck roll his way this year or for the past few years, so if his staff can’t come up with a good enough game plan that plays to our players’ strengths and stops them from thinking too much instead of just playing football naturally and comfortably, then we will lose again
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 28, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Not so sure about that.
Look at the Eagles. They have a ridiculous amount of “skill and talent.” They’ve always had talent.
Look at where that has gotten them.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
Part of why the Giants are always in the hunt every year is because we don’t pull an Oakland or Washington and just fire our HC every time they don’t make the playoffs. That’s part of why I think Philly is also dumb if they fire Reid 1 year after winning the division again.
by Midnight Blue on Nov 28, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Why, hullo thar Pittsburgh Steelers...
…how did you win that many Superblows again?
"I play wide receiver. I have a short term memory." - Mario Manningham
by Amsterdam Admirals on Nov 28, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
No team wins lots of games without talent
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22
we were 8-8 in 2009
we missed the playoffs 2 straight season. This season will probably make 3.
We were 8-8 in 2006 and made the playoffs.
Every team has injuries. It’s part of the game. It’s not an excuse.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
What? Logic?
C’mon man!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I said it once, i will say it again
There is no place for your logic and common sense around here sir……now go on..get!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I think in that context it is spelled "git" lol
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NYG 30 NO 27
why
TC deserves more blame. He approves the game plans. They go through him. He wears a headset. He’s the HC. His fingers are all over it.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
really
he’s been a HC for 15-20 years. He’s been a coach for 30 to 40 years.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by saying i don't think he knows a whole lot about it
i mean hes an offensive minded coach and despite all the hype, our D is middle of the pack or worse basically ever year. thats on TC just as much as the DC and the players.
Coughlin's one of the most complete coaches in the game
dude knows everything. Maybe if he was a bit younger he’d try and do more, or maybe he can and just trusts his coaches too much.
Or maybe guys need to catch the god damn ball and stop missing tackles. You know, the reasons why we’ve lost?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
all the coaches' fault
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 28, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Someone who can actually see the true reasons for our losses
Missed catches, blocks and tackles.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
agreed
too many missed assignments with Fewell’s scheme, tho I’d say injuries and guys playing different positions are to blame there.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
injuries to the same friggin' position.
TT, Witherspoon, Coe, Tryon, Bruce Johnson, Amukamara.
That’s way too much to overcome at just one position. Not to mention losing any sort of flexibility on LB with Sintim gone, Goff gone, and Boley missing a couple games.
And we can’t forget about the DL, losing Austin as a rotational pass rushing DT that would have probably spared JPP some time there. And Tuck missing a ton of games, and Osi missing a ton of games.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
the Prince might be the key to the whole season
I liked what I saw against the Eggholes with him. I figured it wouldn’t take him long to fit in cuz he was basically ready right away, the guy’s a potentially great CB.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
definitely.
Obviously TT hurts. Prince hurts. Huge problem is depth. No quality guys to step in and give Ross/Cweb a break. Now we have Will Blackmon, so hopefully we’ll see how that goes.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
hopefully we'll see none of Will Blackmon
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Same, though I can't see how we won't late in the 3rd Q or 4th
because you know the Saints will have 4 wide most of the game.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
This.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Just read(rumor of course) on ESPN
that Spags may be fired.
Could it be?
Might we jump on that wagon?
How awesome would it be?
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Sign me up, but only if Fewell doesn't turn shizz around
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
PF could be an excellent coordinator
For other teams and their personell. Playing our weaknesses makes us vulnerable and we could definitely be 8-2 right now if we did what we do best, but he takes it right out of the equation.
I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones. - Bill Parcells
Be excellent to each other... and party on, dudes. - Abraham Lincoln
You know----
When he came to us I was so excited because of what he did with Buffalo, but now I see it quite clearly as a result of your wise words….
He dumbs down the system.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I don't think he dumbs it down
I think he makes it harder, forcing the scheme and forcing players to think a little too much. I was excited at first, too, but he just doesn’t adjust the scheme to fit the players even a little bit.
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it's obvious
this coaching staff forces their scheme on the players. It has nothing to do with ’dumbing down". Playing a zone is more complex than chasing down the QB.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Let's start
by doing less 3-4 with JPP as nose tackle and go from there, k?
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 28, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions
it would be nice if they were doing a 3-4 look
but its more of a 3DL, 2LB and 6DBs look.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yes it is like a 3-2-6
Without the benefits of a 3-2-6. Usually that is a package to dial up various blitzes from, look at LSU for an example of how it should be used, but Fewell doesn’t do that. You should be abl to create all sorts of confusion from that package, but the only question the offense has is if Kiwi is coming or not. Everyone else is covering on almost every play.
Sadly, I'm prepared
for a night of power drinking and hurling vicious curses at PF and the TV and hopefully not throwing things while my dogs run and hide in the other room. If I do a shot for every 3 man rush with JPP at the Nose I’ll probably die.
the Giants should always have at least 4 rushing
when the best part of the team is the pass rush, you want that to be the most active. rushing 3 is nonsensical
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by NJsandman on Nov 28, 2011 10:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
A DC meeting....
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 28, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions
I'll be damned me the wife and mother-in-law!!!...in the back yard..
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions
Fewell <= Sherridan
ill some of those holes a Cover 2 type scheme can leave
it’s not only the Giants defense. Other teams are getting torched in Cover 2. The Cover 2 scheme is outdated against the offenses today. The WR have too much freedom.
I heard a stat the other day about the Bear’s Cover 2. When they run cover 2 opposing offenses complete better than 70% of their passes. It was said the Bears use it more than any other team in the league.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Not sure if the scheme is at fault.
I think its the personnel for said scheme.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Then the DC is fault for adapting a scheme that doesn't fit his personnel
It’s like asking the Oakland A’s to become a HR hitting power team when all their guys are based off speed. If you can’t adjust a scheme to personnel, I don’t know what business you have coaching in the NFL.
which is why I'm fine with Fewell gone after this season if changes don't come
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
We have no chance against NO and GB...
…if we don’t consistently knock the QBs down.
If Perry doesn’t stop the nonsense and let them loose we won’t even make the playoffs.
Sadly because of earlier mistakes (Redskins, Seahawks, Eagles) we really need to take one of these next two games to have a chance of taking the division (and still need a sweep of the cowpatties).
I’d rather get beat because we were being aggressive with our BEST attribute than get beat because we decided not to use them.
AND let’s get Tuck some time off, use JPP or Kiwi or someone, he needs some more healing time, it’s obvious.
If there was any game that we could have used Boley...it would have been this one.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions
What is the word on Boley for tonight? In or out?
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Out
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
damn.
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"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Herz time.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Herz is a MLB
considering how bad Jones has played, its Herz time anyway. With no Boley it should be more JWill time.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Im on board for that.
Jwill and Herz. Jones, to me, is the least talented football player of the 3.
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"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Jones blows
he will never have the necessary speed to do anything in pass defense and he’s not great against the run.
which is funny cuz he's actually the fastest of the 3
just doesn’t play that way, at least yet.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
there is no way Jones
is faster than JWill. No way.
they both ran 4.6s
and Jones is about 245 and short, while JWill is 240 and tall and a long strider.
He is just as fast as Williams tho. He’s just a bowling ball who should probably slim down to get back to under 230 like he was when he was a 1st round talent at MSU.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Under 230 is a small LB though.
Idk if I want my MLB weighing 227 or what have you. Seems like he’d have trouble holding up against the run all game.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
London Fletcher is tiny
Jon Vilma is anorexic, Stephen Tulluck is the same size as Jones should be.
Weight is just a number. Fact is a 255lbs LB or a 230lbs LB is gonna get demolished by a 305Lbs OL any day of the week anyway. You play at whatever weight you get the best results at and Jones as he’s gained weight has gotten worse.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
We shall see,
I still think Herz is the better naturally gifted football player. Herz gets the nod, for now, from me.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jones is not good at his current weight.
He was much better at a lighter weight, but that was against collegiate sized athletes. It is questionable whether he could hang with the big boys at the lighter weight. For his career’s sake I think it is something he needs to try though. At his current weight/play he is destined to not be in the NFL soon.
it was against big 10 sized collegiate athletes
the lines most/all of those schools trot out are just as big and strong as the NFL, just maybe not as athletic.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking more the functional strength of the backs
300 something pound dude beats 200 something pound dude regardless of give or take 15 pounds. That’s all about arm strength and techniques to shed. My bigger concern would be the strength of NFL caliber backs, fullbacks, and tight ends.
speed can overcome all of that
Jones at any weight was/is strong enough to hold up against those guys. The only problem is his sideline to sideline speed is completely gone.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I dont care what they ran
We all know J will is faster than Jones…especially side to side, where Jones is God awful.
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I said it before the Philly game and I'm sticking with it
Boley must come back healthily or the young LBs must improve their play. If neither one happens, then this season is over.
Look at the SF game. The 49ers didn’t score a TD until after Boley left. On Philly’s game-winning drive, Vince Young converted 3rd down after 3rd down in the middle of the field.
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I agree.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone remember the days of LT and Banks...
…when they’d jump left and right behind the tackles looking to pick out a spot to attack? The O-line had no idea who would pick up or double team since LT/Banks came in randomly.
I don’t see that happening anymore.
that's the beauty of the 3-4
but it also hasn’t mattered, cuz when the Giants actually use their 4 down lineman…it gets pressure. And when they rush a LB be it Kiwi or whoever, they always get pressure.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
this season
we blitzed once off the edge with a DB. It resulted in a sack. Why once?
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Yeah isn’t it funny how on offense if they run a play that works once, they’ll run it twenty more times before giving up, but defensively if they run something that works they retire it undefeated?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Grain of salt
Must be taken every time a player or coach says something like this. I don’t know if he is concerned about tipping his hat somehow.
It is concerning that he does not state that there has been an issue and it has been identified at least. Or maybe he feels that by saying that would be tipping his hat?
I don’t know anymore…
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
Said the same thing on Saturday to my friends.
Graham is a freak, period. He’s going to crush us if he wants to. And Sproles worries me cuz we can’t contain his speed. Of course, constant pressure on Brees has shown he has a tendency to make mistakes of his own this season, so it could all be avoided if we can harass Brees consistently all game long.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Graham and Sproles
are going to eat up our young LBs. My heart is going to stop everytime i see a screen developing
exactly i fear that he will be open in the flat and every time we get a good rush he’ll take it for 15 yards
Me, too...
I’ll be even more upset when that happens 10 times on 3rd and 14.
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Can we just start calling Fewell
Bill Perry-dan?
Too soon?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions
next thing you know, he's gonna bust out the amoeba.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
A busted ameoba would just spill cytoplasm everywhere
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yup, you're definitely a submariner
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by Larry Soprano on Nov 28, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
lulzz
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I believe someone here was thoroughly bashed for making that comparison....
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
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it was me
I posted weeks ago Fewell <= Sherridan all but 2 or 3 disagreed.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
I was being sarcastic
I was referring to myself. I said it last season and everyone told me to give him another year before I bashed him.
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well, sorry to interrupt the PF hate session...
but his Defense did get 3 TO’s last week and our Offense put up 10 points.
10 points…vs the Eagles
I’m curious, if the O showed up vs. Philly would this thread even be in circulation right now?
TeamJPP
narratives are tough to overcome
but yes, catch the god damn ball and we win. Don’t even care about the rushing. Jake Ballard.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Last week was the first time I started Ballard in my fantasy league all season(He's been my backup to Graham)
First time I play him, he stinks it up. Never again, you shall ride the pine on my fantasy team, and keep being awesome in real life. Expect Ballard to have a very nice bounce back game tonight, now that he’s back on my bench.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 28, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I thought it was my fault for starting him in place of Graham last week
This makes me feel like some of the guilt can be shared at least
by TempusSpatium on Nov 28, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that apology is sincere, andi...
Good point though. Gotta score points to win football games. Watching Brady’s highlights from yesterday just pissed me off a bit.
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probably not.
And like I said somewhere above ^ the defense has kept us in games.
I think where I take issue is the fact that it could be easily fixed via coaching, as opposed to the offensive problems which are due to OL eff ups.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
maybe that's why they can't catch the ball?
they’re relying on the OL and they’re F’ing it up.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
catching the ball certainly was a huge part of the reason why we lost last week
but it hasn’t been a consistent flaw throughout the season, whereas the OL has. Though if the WRs and Ballard did their jobs, we probably would have escaped with a W
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
+1000
Butterfingers on offense=3 and outs= losing
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 28, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
and catching the ball
has allowed us to win some big games this season. Rams (Hixon), Eagles (Cruz) and NE (Ballard).
Perry Fewell Stinks!
yup
which is why I said this:
catching the ball certainly was a huge part of the reason why we lost last week
but it hasn’t been a consistent flaw throughout the season, whereas the OL has.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah our guys dropped some crucial passes..and Ballard just had a bad day
Which will happen..but the ones you have to catch you have to catch..They’ll cost you the game..
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well I said it after the game....
chances are a better scheme keeps Philly in single digits….
but still….gotta score points. that Loss is more on the O than the D IMO
TeamJPP
no doubt.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
hell...
tackling Desean Jackson on the punt return and scoring some points on O prolly keeps Philly under 10 points alone….
forget a better scheme.
TeamJPP
yeap.
I guess I’m just pissed off that fewell said “I can’t put my finger on it” on why we can’t get pressure.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
the last person i'm trying to defend here is Fewell
but I think people fail to realize just how bad Philly’s Defense is, and just how pathetic the Giants O looked last week.
I know the Giants dropped passes….big passes. But Philly’s O sucked and kept giving us the damn ball back and still our Offense looked Offensive.
I look at this game vs. NO….I think the Giants can win. I think Fewell’s D could actually be effective at times too….but I don’t see them holding NO under 10 points. or even under 20 points….
so drops aside, this Offense has to recognize that it’s their job to win games, so they gotta score a lot….and askign to do it in the final 2 minutes is gonna catch up to you.
TeamJPP
also...and this is the kicker....
Philly showed Fewell just how important a pass rush is.
even though Philly’s D sucks, they disrupted everthing the Giants did simply by stopping the Run and pressuring the QB.
even when Fewell sees it right in front of him….he refuses to adapt to that style of play.
he has his philosophy. it’s been well documented and Giants fans kept falling back on “with time it will happen”.
it’s not happening.
TeamJPP
it will never happen
Perry Fewell Stinks!
That's because he has his finger up his nose...
You can’t coach and pick your damn nose at the same time..
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I know where he should stick his finger..
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agreed
chances are a better scheme keeps Philly in single digits….
that’s the problem in a nutshell. We don’t lose vs Redskins, Seahawks and 49ers. That’s 3 losses directly attributed to PF’s scheme. The Eagles game could have gone either way. They shut us down on offense.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
the defense
has kept us in game against some lousy teams. The same defense has allowed lousy QBs play like HOFers.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Must. Place. Blame.
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by Larry Soprano on Nov 28, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yup
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
YES
It doesn’t hide the fact that PF as a DC is terrible.
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maybe so....
but if the Giants won that game 28 – 17 like they prolly should have….
this topic would be on the back burner for another week or two….kinda like it’s been since he got here.
TeamJPP
but they didn't
and that’s a common theme for a TC coached team. We lose too many games we should win.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
well TC overall....
yeah i agree….i mean just look at Seattle and Philly
but like you said, we held NE to 20 and won.
held Philly to 17 and lost.
the D could be better, but the O gotta hold up it’s end of teh bargain too.
TeamJPP
if we won that game playing the exact same way
we played with heart and Fewell and Gilbride called a great game.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Meaningless
We held NE to 20
Eagles held us to 10
NE torched Eagles for 38
Perry Fewell Stinks!
You are correct
meaningless. This BCS crap of A beat B and B beat C so A will beat C does not work in the NFL. Each game, each week is a different entity.
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Stole my thunder
While I enjoyed seeing the Pats put 38 on the Eggs, I became that much more annoyed at our 10 point effort. I hope to hope to see some slants, short crossing patterns, screens to get the ball out quickly and keep Eli alive. A successful running game would be nice but that’s probably asking too much.
by G-FANinFL on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Assuming VY can read...
Philadelphia quarterback Vince Young could have read ‘War And Peace’ at times while standing in the pocket a week ago.
He could have stood back there and watched an episode of “Blue’s Clues” on an iPhone though…with commercials.
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Idiot
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Steve Spagnuolo back in Blue
Steve Spagnuolo may be fired as head coach of the RAMs. If so the Giant front office has to make a play to get him back as their defensive coordinator.
Fewell is not Steve Spagnuolo and Steve is who made the Giant’s D great.
Bring back Steve Spagnuolo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
careful what you wish for....
I don’t watch a lot of Rams games….but the one i did this year was vs. Philly.
and Spags got really conservative in that game. when he did bring pressure he got to vick, but often times he didn’t and let Vick pick apart his secondary.
there is clearly a movement across the NFL to implement more zone drops to deal w/ these spread offenses.
TeamJPP
Giants D is 1000000x better personnel wise then the Rams
Spags doesn’t really have much to work with over there, he lost as many CBs to IR as we have and the ones he hast left are way worse then ours. Can’t really use his traditional blitz scheme if they have absolute horrid CBs, and his pass rushers can’t stop the run whatsoever. Blame him for that if you want, I just think his personnel is complete garbage.
We have Better
offensive and defensive weapons. Spags might not be the answer. The team will play with more enthusiasm. This team plays with no fire under TC.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Amen. We want Spags!
by Remember Phil Simms on Nov 28, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
The change in opponent quality from early season to recent
is probably the biggest reason that the sack totals have dropped off. It’s not like Fewell lost some magic he had. We were playing teams where a man to a man our guys on the line were just that much better. Getting to the higher caliber teams with more talent along the OL the DC needs to be able to scheme some pressure. Our pass rush talent is good, but these other OL guys are paid to play this game too. You can’t just expect your horses are always going to be better, or even if they are better so absolutely dominant to not need help. Spags had great pass rushers in Osi, Strahan, and Tuck with quality DT play from Robbins and Coefield, but the man still schemed blitzes with he best of them. Without those blitz packages our pass rush would have been far less scary against the Pats in 07.
You haven't been paying attention
You just need to call the right plays and/or play with intensity and/or want it more. Easy peasy. Not sure why the draft is so important,
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
really?
Are you saying that Philly’s OL just matches up really well vs the Giants DL from a personnel standpoint, and thats why there was a lack of pressure?
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 28, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
No
I’m saying we got some sacks early despite bad scheming because the opponent OL was of low quality in comparison to our DL. As we have seen more quality opponents our DL does not hold such a position of dominance, and as a result has not been able to generate pressure on simply athletic talents. Defensive scheming would generate pressure, and would have generated greater pressure against weaker opponents. I’m saying there is lack of pressure because Fewell fails to scheme appropriately to put his players in a position to win. I’m also saying the early season sacks were a mirage caused by low talent or poorly coached OL opponents.
I don't disagree
however, PF plays a very basic 3 and 4 man rush. Even when he blitzes it’s a basic blitz package.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Cover 2
My opinion is that the Giants should play more of a man-to-man defense tonight with a strong safety cloud/Cover 1. They should keep Kiwi on the TE and vary blitzes from the LB’s and the FS. Also, they need to keep JPP at end. Mix it up! Fewell has been too predictable. IMO
by ChicagoGiantsFan on Nov 28, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions
If Kiwi is covering Jimmy Graham
he will catch 30 passes tonight.
If this is not a ruse
And Perry honestly can’t figure out why we have no pass rush, despite having an embaressment of riches along the Defensive front, then Coughlin should step in and show him.
Take the headset off and show him some pics on the sideline, put him on blast… something along the lines of “If I see this crap again I’m gonna put you in the equipment shed again, Radio.”
For real this laying the blame solely on Fewell is too shortsighted. If we can see it than Coughlin can see it. Difference is Coughlin is in a position to do something about it, and does nothing but gripe about the players play in the press conference after the game.
I don’t expect to win tonight, but I would love to see the fight that this team has in it, put in a position to have a chance to cause some chaos, and force the issue against the Saints.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
+100000000000000
If we can see it than Coughlin can see it. Difference is Coughlin is in a position to do something about it, and does nothing but gripe about the players play in the press conference after the game.
I couldn’t AGREE MORE! TC is the HC it falls on him. We’ve watched this debacle since week 1 in DC.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
PF
Sign for tonight’s game,
" Pass rush
Fail "
by dizzrock on Nov 28, 2011 1:15 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
NEED a HUGE game from JPP tonight
And Webster. Is Boley in the line-up? Stopping Graham, Colston and Sproles all night is gonna mean everyone else has to step up, too. Brees can shred us and if Eli goes into pic throwing mode, our goose will be cooked before halftime. And I really think the rest of the season is almost irrelevant if we lose tonight….
by Remember Phil Simms on Nov 28, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions
I think Perry should get his head out of his ASSSSSSS
this bend don`t break sucks, old school lets give Brees a game he won`t forget, Perry its time to get your head out of your ass, or its time you leave!! to much talent on this team to waste! we need a win
Amen ED!
I’ve noticed an unbelievable lack of creativity with the front 7 and it’s hurting the team big time! I hadn’t heard of Fewell before he was hired but there was a lot of fan appreciation. I still don’t see why. He doesn’t appear to be anything special. In fact, he seems to be a mediocre d-coord. Looks like Spags is going to be fired soon, I say bring him back and give Fewell to St. Louis
FEWELL HAS TO BE FIRED TOMORROW!!!!! THE WORST PREPARATION FOR A GAME I’VE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!
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