Tom Coughlin is a Great Coach, Eli Manning is a Great Quarterback
I apologize for the awfully simplistic sounding title, but sometimes it's just better to state the plain truth. No doubt this doesn't come as a revelation to most of you. Yet I think as Giants fan we get spoiled by how fortunate we are and fail to appreciate how set we are at two of the most critical jobs in the sport.
In order to truly appreciate Tom Coughlin you have to look around the league. This is the third season I've had the Red Zone Channel, and it has enabled me to watch chunks of just about every game every week. What strikes me is just how many awful decisions coaches make week in and week out. Just this past week we had the Falcons going for it on fourth down inside their own 30 in overtime. Then, in the Ravens-Seahawks game the other Harbaugh threw a challenge flag in order to challenge the spot. As is the case with about 98% of this type of challenge, the call on the field stood. This cost the Ravens their second timeout, leaving them with one for the final two minutes, effectively taking them out of the game.
You see this sort of stuff all the time. Coaches make continuous small errors that hamper their team. As someone who has lived in the DC area for a decade now, I've witnessed incompetence upon incompetence at coach. Now the Redskins have Mike "I won a couple of Super Bowls with John Elway thirteen years ago and haven't won didley squat since, but I'm still living off of my reputation" Shanahan. Dan Snyder is paying Shanahan seven million dollars a year and it genuinely seems like the guy is just winging it out there. He makes decisions that seem motivated more by spite than by strategy. Oh, Ryan Torrain rushed for 135 yards last week? Okay, time to give Roy Helu 20 snaps. Why? Screw you, that's why.
I wouldn't suggest that every decision that Tom Coughlin makes is the right one. He's not perfect, but no one is. But Tom Coughlin rarely, if ever, does things that make me scream at the television in frustration. He knows when to challenge calls, he has a great sense of what's happening in the game and what buttons to push, and in all just gives off a sense of being in control of himself and the team. In other words, he's competent, and simple competence is a virtue lacking in an alarming number of coaches around the league.
As for Eli, there is little that I can say that hasn't been said already on this board. While most around the league sniggered when he declared himself an elite quarterback, a majority of us didn't. And with reason. Aside from Aaron Rodgers he has been the most valuable player in this league this season. There is arguably no other quarterback you'd want leading your team down the field with the game on the line. Like Coughlin, he's far from perfect. He still makes ridiculous throws and gives away points. And sure, he's got that hang-dog expression that doesn't always exactly inspire confidence. But when Eli is behind center, you are more confident than not that good things will happen.
Now look at the other tenant of their stadium. I actually do root for the Jets, and have been watching Mark Sanchez develop over the last three years. Sure, he "led" the Jets to the AFC title game in his first two seasons, but no one in their right mind could argue that Sanchez is even remotely on the level of Eli Manning. If anything, it almost seems like Sanchez has been regressing. He's capable of leading the Jets down the field in crucial situations and has done so on occasion, but he inspires nowhere near the same amount of confidence as Eli. In fact, every time he drops back to pass I half wonder how he'll screw up. Last night on a third and long from his own 20 in the third quarter he threw a pass that I knew was going to become a six pick before it left his arm. And that touchdown was the only reason that St. Tebow was able to lead the Broncos on a game winning drive. Of course Manning has done the same, but with Sanchez it's become expected.
Long story short, Coughlin and Manning inspire a level of confidence that is hard to fully appreciate unless you realize what is out there in the rest of the league. There is a reason that the Giants have been either a playoff team or at the very least a contender late into the season every full season since Coughlin and Manning have taken over the reigns. It's a nice feeling to know that your team is in such capable hands.
And now that I've completely jinxed the team for this coming Sunday, I'll bow out.
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what? no sarcasm?
I don’t get it.
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
No Sarcasm
Though upon further review, it probably could have used some better editing. The main point I was trying to make, especially with regards to Coughlin, is that he gets all the little things right. He isn’t prone to those colossally head-scratching decisions that we constantly see other coaches making.
Oh, and I'm still a little bitter about Sanchez's performance last night
Not only did it annoy me as someone rooting for the Jets, but as someone who had to give him a bye week start in fantasy. And then watching Tebow go down the field and have the announcers act like he’s the most magical mortal to have ever walked the mortal coil really put me over the edge.
Bring Back Bob Pappa!!!
The current edition of Thursday Night Football announcers totally blow. I mean, they really, really blow.
I don’t know if I am just used to hearing Pappa’s voice, but his play by play is light years ahead of the current crew.
I like Mike Mayock but the other fella can jump in a lake.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
oh, I thought it was great
only being a goofball, as usual
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
i just got banned at gangrene nation
I swear, people can’t take kindness. They were all giving up on the season. All I said was, don’t give up, you’re New York’s team, the city needs you!
And they also said Sanchez Sucks. All I said was, he’s better than Eli.
Boom. Banned.
Whatever happened to kind words of encouragement?
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I got banned for something stupid too
they poke fun at BBV for the ban hammer yet they are worse. SMH.
FIRE Perry Fewell
Typical baby stuff
Dish it out, but can’t take it
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
oh ok good
i thought this was at the article at first and was like “wtf are you talking about, how much plainer do you want him to be?”
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
My problems with the coaching staff have been the coordinators.
In the past I’ve killed Gilbride for his gameplans and playcalling. This year Gilbride has been very good and it’s the DC that’s killing me with baffling gameplans and refusal to admit the obvious…..YOUR SCHEMES AREN’T WORKING!!!!! I am starting to lose hope that Radio will change his stubborn ways.
FIRE Perry Fewell
Loved this
Oh, Ryan Torrain rushed for 135 yards last week? Okay, time to give Roy Helu 20 snaps. Why? Screw you, that’s why
Almost pissed myself
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
Whats a "hang-dog"?
good post!
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Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
I'd say TC is a good coach, a very good coach.
I’d save great for guys one notch above (there aren’t always great coaches out there)
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I dont understand why everyone is killing the Falcons HC for going for it
I would much rather put my faith in a talented offence against the Saints D than give Drew Brees the ball when he only needs to get his team in position for a FG. Its like Belicheck’s decision two years ago in the playoffs against the Colts, Id rather give Tom Brady a chance to make a fourth down than give Peyton Manning the ball with two minutes to get a TD
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Good post though
Agree that Coughlin and Eli often arent appreciated enough (quite frequently by me and my ‘Madden mentality’)
.12 points away from Top of the BBV fantasy league! Team Figging lives on with its 6-3 record
by ChuckyofNorris on Nov 19, 2011 6:47 AM EST up reply actions
There are a couple of differences
The Pats were ahead at the time when they went for it. They knew that they couldn’t stop the Colts, so they took a decent gamble to let their offense seal the deal. The Saints weren’t exactly marching up and down the field in that game, and it’s not unreasonable to think your defense can hold them one more time. If the gamble doesn’t pay off – and it didn’t – then the game is basically over as the team is already in field goal range. So I think Bellichick’s decision made more sense than Smith’s.
Id like to refer you to:
Drew Brees ranks fourth among QBs in game-winning drives. It doesnt matter if the Saints werent marching up and down the field that game, in OT, Brees will get the yards he needs to 9 times out of 10
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by ChuckyofNorris on Nov 19, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
you make him earn it
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 19, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Smith's decision was bad
I know people say YOU PLAY to WIN the GAME, but the truth is, coaches usually play to NOT LOSE.
You’re down 3, you have the ball at your opponent’s 15 yard line, it’s 4th and 11, and there are 30 seconds left in the game.
YOU KICK THE FG.
Why, because don’t lose, that’s why. By punting, Smith could have put his team in a position to not LOSE. you hafta consider the overtime situation. He lost the game on that play, instead of pushing the spectre of loss back 60 yards. On their 35, sure, you could go for that. But not when failure means almost-certain loss.
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 19, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
My reply to dcmetsfan is also to you ^^
.12 points away from Top of the BBV fantasy league! Team Figging lives on with its 6-3 record
by ChuckyofNorris on Nov 19, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Even though they've both been really good this season...
Like the other guy said, save the great for when we win two another championship. I for one have been one of the biggest Eli Manning critics for a while, and while I am singing another tone this season because of his ‘great’ play this year, I don’t think I’m ready to stamp that label on him just yet. As for TC, I still feel that he is a pretty good coach, his below average choices of coaching staff will never have him as being great in my book. Besides being pretty good at throwing the challenge flag at times, I can’t remember a time where the Giants did anything really unexpected (in the coaching aspect) to catch any team off guard, but I can point out plenty of times where the Giants were not prepared for the unexpected. Regardless of what happens from this point on until the end of the season, I’ll be more than happy to see old man Coughlin go
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 19, 2011 1:07 PM EST reply actions

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