Five Questions With 'Bleeding Green Nation'
by Ed Valentine on Nov 17, 2011 10:20 AM EST
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Time for our weekly segment with the lead writer from the opposing team's SB Nation website, which means 'Five Questions' today with JasonB of Bleeding Green Nation.
Before I delve into the questions and answers I am going to remind you all to play nice. There were some bruised feelings and some nonsense Wednesday after the dueling 'Are The Giants A Playoff Team' posts. Let's not go down that road again, please.
Ed: A couple of weeks ago it looked like the Eagles had gotten turned around after their poor start, now two bad losses in a row at home. What went wrong?
Jason: An easier question might be "what didn't go wrong?" And my answer to that would be nothing. Easy right?
But in case you were looking for something more nuanced, I think the problems are fairly obvious. The team folds in the fourth quarter of games and the defense stinks.
Ed: Can the Juan Castillo as a defensive coordinator move be termed a failure at this point?
Jason: I don't see how it couldn't. There's no positives from the defense. They can't stop the run. He's got one of the top 2 or 3 man coverage CBs in the NFL and has completely misused him in a zone scheme. Nnamdi Asomugha covered Larry Fitzgerald for something like 35 snaps last week and Fitzerald had no catches. Nnamdi had a pick.
Yet on the pivotal play of the game, Castillo has Nnamdi covering the slot WR while Fitzgerald ends up on a rookie safety in single coverage. It's comical.
Ed: Just like there are Giants fans who cry for Tom Coughlin's head every time the Giants lose I know there are Eagles fans wanting Andy Reid fired. If the Eagles don't make the playoffs, which looks likely at this point, is Reid is real jeopardy of losing his job?
Jason: Sure, I'd say so. There are no permanent jobs in the NFL and I think we saw with Jeff Fisher last year that even the longest tenured guys aren't safe. In the end, I think it will depend a lot on how the team finishes. If they got their act together down the stretch here and played better, then maybe the team chalks up the bad start to too many new players and no offseason (I don't think that's the reason or a valid excuse btw) and brings back Andy for next year.
But if this really goes bad over the last half and they finish with a top ten pick or something, then sure I think Andy could be gone.
Ed: Your thoughts on Steve Smith at this point? By the way, Giants fans thoroughly watching his catch-and-flop routine two yards short of a first down the other day on a fourth-down play.
Jason: I don't really have many thoughts on Steve Smith. He hasn't really played until last week and he obviously wasn't very good. I'm sure he's not totally healthy, but what difference does it make? He's not been a part of any solutions.
Ed: In the midst of everything that has gone wrong, there have to be some players or some things with this team you feel really good about. Who are they?
Jason: LeSean McCoy. The team may not have even won the three games they did without him. And I certainly wonder whether they might have won a few more if they would have relied on him more heavily in the games they lost. This is a guy who leads the NFL in TDs and is 2nd in rushing yards and we've seen them take the ball out of hands in close games. Not surprisingly they've lost those games.
He's as good as any back in the NFL right now.
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I’m sure he’s not totally healthy
i’ve been screaming this from the top of my lungs for forever over at BGN, and was told by you and others ‘no it’s the scheme, it’s the depth chart, Vick doesn’t trust him, he’s healthy look what he did in week two’…….well at least you finally admitted it, and we got it in print.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Aww hell, I could've told 'em that.
Sure. He could physically run, but running routes in practice is NOT the same as playing football, particularly for a slot receiver who makes his hay by running razor sharp, precise routes and having great chemistry with his QB.
Turns out, the Giants medical staff (who have dealt with a number of microfracture rehabs lately) were right in saying that he was in for a long haul to get back to probowl form.
…Things that make you go “huh”
Note: had the eagles actually asked me...
…I would have told them that Smith was absolutely 110% healthy and should not only be their no.1 receiver, but the focal point and centerpiece of their offense.
by Raptor22 on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hehe rec'd
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Kick and punt returning as well...
Poor Steve.
Nice!
But still I feel a little bad for poor Steve, just a little.
Go Giants! Go Red Sox! Don't judge me I was born this way.
He caught one punt this year and that was last week when Jackson and Maclin were out.
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Does it look like Bradshaw is playing this week?
"...has been timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, and owning a 40.5-inch vertical jump and a 440-pound max bench press, 605-pound squat and a power-clean of 374 pounds." Could you imagine what it would be like to have somone like this on your team???? Oh we do??? His name is Bruce Carter??? Hmmmm....... interesting.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Nov 17, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions
I hate this game
The Eagles have their backs up against the wall. A wounded animal that knows a loss here kills the season. I think the Giants had better try and take the heart out of them early, or this will be a dogfight. Ooops. Did I say dogfight?
Go Giants!
we all hate it
we have bad memories of the eagles for years now. but good teams have killer instinct, and if the giants are a good team (i suspect they are), they will stomp these guys out. at the same time… i think that this game could be lopsided in either direction.
remember, the eagles CRUSHED the cowboys in primetime very recently.
by section_112 on Nov 17, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Losing to the Niners last week,
remembering what happened in this same building against Philly last year, and the general hatred for Philly should keep the Giants focus and intensity razor sharp, IMO.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
i would agree if
the Giants were just biding time and comfortably in the lead.
But with Dallas right on their heels, they should realize that there is very little room for error over the next several weeks.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
They better...
They are professionals, they should realize what’s at stake, but you never know. Although, I’d be much more worried in any other year with any other Giants team, but I think this team is different, they seem hungry and motivated. They just need to get off to a strong start and never, NEVER let up.
Go Giants! Go Red Sox! Don't judge me I was born this way.
McCoy is starting to justify the hype
The defensive coordinator decision and putting the team in Michael Vick’s hands have killed their season. At least they got it out of they way early.
At least you can root for us against the Cowboys.
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Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
He's a great player
I remember seeing him still sitting there in round three of the draft and when I saw the Eagles grab him, I just groaned. i had a feeling he was a perfect fit for the Eagle offense.
Go Giants!
He's example #10 million of why you don't
take a RB early in the draft.
they drafted him in the 2nd round
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I forgot. He was rated by many to be a first rounder and slid well into the second. I do remember a lot of discussion about him before the draft.
Go Giants!
also Bradshaw and Jacobs for all they've done good fell to where they were for a reason
and it wasn’t just off the field stuff with Bradshaw. The earlier you take a RB the better the athlete he is.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
not necessarily..
McCoy, Forte, Jamaal Charles, MJD, to name a few were all drafted after the 1st round and are better athletes and runningbacks then Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, Cedric Benson, Marshawn Lynch ever were.
McCoy and Forte are 2nd rounders
MJD is small, that’s why he’s a 2nd rounder and Charles is skinny and a system back.
They’re all not ideal athletes like those 1st rounders. GIve me a 5"11 225lbs RB that runs a 4.4 any day. Its the fault of the team that drafted them that they didn’t pan out or that they got hurt in most other cases.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I know they are second rounders
and that’s a lot later then where Ronnie, Cadillac, Benson and Lynch were drafted, yet those later picks are producing much more.
So what if MJD is small, he’s a beast and Jacksonville got him later in the draft. I’d rather have that then use a top 10 pick and pay obscene amounts of money.
So what if Charles is skinny and a “system” back (which is total BS since he would be a beast anywhere), he’s still a beast.
Your assertion that the earlier a RB is taken, the better athlete he is, is bogus. Just look at this season..out of the top 10 rushers in the NFL, Adrian Peterson and Steven Jackson are the only 1st rounders. Last year, 4 out the 10 rushers were first rounders.
But yeah you are right, its either the team that drafted them or the injuries fault.
Charles would not be a beast anywhere else, or maybe he'd be in Houston or Washington
where they have zone blocking. ITs the same stuff that created the dime a dozen 1000 yd rushers for the Broncos.
The first round athletes are better athletes. That’s not bogus, that’s fact. That doesn’t mean they’ll rush for more yards, which is what you’re misinterpreting.
And yes, injury and the team are at fault. Why are Cedric Benson and Willis McGehee still running for tons of yards when they were first rounders elsewhere? And I’m pretty sure injury is the reason why Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown never panned out, cuz they always are.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
They have deeper issues than that,
but those two are the biggies, your right.
But let the excuses fly: Alot of new faces, not a proper off season. They just aren’t a TEAM, at this point.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
too bad that's not the only thing
Michael Vick’s hands have killed
by TNYFBG on Nov 17, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
niceeee
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
my sig.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Really hate that the Eagles and Dallas
have studs at RB…
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I've been in denial about that.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
But do you think
Murray is the real deal? Cowboys backs tend to have a history of having a strong one year record and then tapering off. Shady on the other hand is a beast and seems to be only getting better. I cringe when runs due to how he handles the effing ball, but amazingly enough he doesnt fumble. Last one, I think was last year October.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Murray was a big injury concern
he was hurt in college often I believe. Eventually the wear and tear is going to get to him.
Well, he's being touted by some
over on BTB as the next great back in the NFL. One guy even wrote a nice long Fanpost about him on BGN. And it didn’t have anything about the Eagles. Other more normal Cowboy fans are liking what they see, but understand that it has only been 4 games.
I forgot about the injury factpr. Do you know what it was?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
He blew up his knee something awful
before that he was an elite prospect, he ought to send a big fruit basket to whoever re-did his knee, cause that work must have been stellar
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Thanks, you're my boy Blue!
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Question for Jason
Do you feel Nnamdi has played to expectations? You said he played well last week. I didn’t think he was having a season worthy of the “second best CB in the NFL” label. I don’t catch much of the Eagles games, so I thought I’d get your opinion of him so far.
Go Giants!
I can't wait for all the Juan Castillo blame and how they're misusing him.
should be good.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
When
Nnamdi is actually played to his strengths (man coverage) he excels because that is his strength. However, when you have a complete fool running this defense in Castillo then we manage to use him in a predictable and terrible zone defense.
See the above example about shutting down Fitz for the majority of the game and then on a critical play have a rookie safety on Fitz. Doesn’t make sense.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
LOL
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
John Skelton was throwing the ball
and that pick was one of the worst throws ive ever seen in the NFL.
by Plaxico Burress on Nov 17, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
this write up of Nnamdi and his usage sounds all too familiar
Cweb and Ross have been discussed in the same way around here.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Nnamdi earned
his status in Oakland as one of the top two corners in football along with Revis. When Nnamdi was a FA, I wanted the Giants to get him.
He is being misused in Philly by a man who has no business being a DC. And that falls on the HC.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
No, none of us are. :-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
how could a corner who's called the top two in the league be misused?
if he was that good it shouldn’t matter where he is.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Ask yourself this:
What is the difference in success for CWeb when he plays man press vs. zone. The years he played zone, he didn’t fare as well.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
I think given time
Nnamdi will excel at both considering his intelligence of the game but as right now our defense looks like amateur hour and the way Castillo uses him is absurd. Have you seen his great use of him as a roaming safety? Slot corner? Brilliance!
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
I would think so too.
I’m just glad we can finally put to bed the Nnamdi vs. Revis discussion.
Revis is alone and has been alone at the top.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
oh no doubt
but that’s also why he’s not a top 2 corner in the NFL. WHen he’s in press, he’s probably in the top 10 in the NFL easily. But when he’s not I’d say much lower.
Revis plays all kinds of schemes and is shutdown no matter what. That’s a top corner.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
No one denies
Revis is great, but would you want Nnamdi?
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
he's showing his true colors this season
with the Raiders they didn’t have to throw at him.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
he's not the best CB in the game, that's for sure.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I certainly never said that
and again, would you want Nnamdi?
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
with all the injuries to our corners, sure why not
when they were all healthy, I don’t think so.
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 17, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Fur enough
though I believe Nnamdi will be just fine this next coming year. If you havent noticed our whole defense is a shit show, so no one is exactly playing well at all.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
A shit show? Ha...
I’ll wear my boots this weekend.
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It is horrible
you might want to wear a rubber coat. Our defense looks like pee wee league half the time. When they are on, they are on (Dallas game) but when it the waning minutes of the game you can see a shift of absurdity creep in. Its appalling.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Oh, we're familiar with that around here.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I commend you on be straight forward and not a homer
like some of the guys here who “believe” and BS artists, never saying anything negative even when obvious to the world.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
What was Fat Andy thinking?
Frankly, never heard of an offensive line coach becoming a
DC after that? It made no sense then or obviously now?
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by Great Gatsby on Nov 17, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
You and I are thinking the same thing.
It made no sense then and still doesnt make sense evident by how awful our defense is.
@Unknown-I love my Eagles, but I’m also not an idiot. I tell it like it is and would much rather have it reflected in our palaver, than being a blind homer.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Yes, of course
But is he worth to us what it would do to our cap? I don’t know until I see what Prince does and whether TT can make it back to full form next year.
Coe is usually bad and Ross, well totally an enigma, very variable.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 17, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
For free? Definitely
For that contract? not sure
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Webster played very well last year in "off" coverage.
the only reason people are talking about Webster this year is because TT ain’t playing so WEbster is actually seeing passes in his direction. (Remember last year teams just threw at TT all game long)
and he’s making plays on them.
seriously….
he played really well last year. WITH exception to the GB game where he still played well and covered G. Jennings very well but got beat by great passes and great catches.
TeamJPP
And what is you assessment of his 2009 performance?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Sounds like Obama's political career you are describing.
Until it’s time to campaign, then lookout!
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
by tommy d. on Nov 17, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice...My thoughts exactly
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probably his least productive year since '07
he wasn’t AWFUL by any means but by Websters standards, it wasn’t his best year.
I still thought his coverage skills were > TT
but it was his first year playing under Sheridan’s “off” scheme w/ the losers at S behind him.
TeamJPP
sounds like
Perry Fewell. Another DC that’s misusing his talent.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Nov 17, 2011 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What I'm curious to see is
(provided its a necessity), how the eagles O-line will deal with having Young back there. He’s a mobile QB, like they’re used to, but he’s right handed. He’ll be doing everything backwards from what they’re used to.
I’m expecting them to try to run the ball a lot, and at Osi, so I’m hoping that Fewell stacks Kiwi on that side of the line (also puts more passrushing firepower on the side of a blind-side who isn’t used to being a blind-side, and may not know where his QB is.)
The Osi-McCoy matchup should be fun to watch. It’d be nice if Osi repeatedly drops him in the backfield… preferably forcing fumbles in the process.
Dont be
too suprised if you Reid decides to throw the ball a million times, just to keep you on your toes. He outsmarts himself a little too often unfortunately.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Seems like they all do this too much
Coaches as a breed, are stubborn. Often to a fault.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
I think
Reid is being a little ridiculous this year, but you are correct some coaches get in their rut.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
He's pretty much F-ed, no?
Is he really stuck with Castillo or is there somebody on the staff who could replace him on an interim basis?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Honestly,
I am not sure who on the staff could come in and be an interim coach but I think if we get blown out by you guys or another historic 4th QTR collapse he will be gone in a game or two.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Oh did you mean
AR being gone or Castillo? If AR, I really dont think he will be gone but Castillo will be.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Yeah I mean Castillo.
I wouldn’t speculate on Reid at this point, but Castillo seems like a no-brainer. Seemed like one in the off season too but I reserved judgement due to Reid’s successful track record with hiring assistants.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
I was the same way
I gave him the benefit of the doubt as he has been pretty on point with his assistants, but this one has come around and bit him on his fat ass.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
I suppose if Reid survives,
It would be safe to assume at this point that another new DC is in the plans
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Castillo for head coach!
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
And operation double agent would be complete
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
That
is a terrible idea! Hmm, I wonder if Spags will be let go…
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
listen you
Spags is OURS! Seriously if he got canned and went to Philly I’d be pissed. We have dreams of him returning to be our DC when Fewell goes for a HC job… pull a Jerry Jones and promise him the HC job so he’ll undercut the HC and make the team suck
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
gonna have to fight us for him
Most of us would happily replace Fewell and his 3 man rush with soft zone coverage scheme
as far as I'm concerned
Kiwi still owes Vince a good solid shot. So I wouldn’t mind seeing him start just for that aspect of things.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Defending the indefensible
I think the screwy schedule with the Tuesday game against the Vikings in Detroit was a factor in our collapse last year. Nobody seems to mention it, probably because we’re all trying to forget it.
While collapses like that are part of Giants history, Coughlin had avoided them until then. I think that the only other game he’s coached where we had more than a touchdown lead in the second half and lost was the Pats 16-0 game in 2007.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
i think what happened with the offensive line at the end of the year
was what cost us. in reality. think about it. we had a bunch of kids on the line against the vikings, and we ran all over them. then we get o’hara back and he is the main reason why we lost to the eagles. yes i said it. not dodge, not the defense, not kenny phillips. o’hara was the reason why we lost that game.
by section_112 on Nov 17, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
That Viking game was a Monday Night
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't it played on Tuesday?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
I think you are thinking of the Eagle-Viking game
a few weeks later that had to played on Tuesday because of the East Coast Blizzard on Dec 26th
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I just looked it up, you are right on both accounts.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
No, you guys are thinking of the game against the Saints that was moved due to Katrina.
It happens all the time.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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no you are thinking of the 2 years
the Giants played at the Yale Bowl in the 70’s
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
YUP! That's it...I feel like such a tool now.
How does someone not remember that?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
someone say
suck a tool?
I miss that meme. It died too soon.
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
played at Ford Field, a Tuesday night, though I am not buying that is a reason for the debacle!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Nov 17, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Everything was a factor
Mostly that the players and coaches failed in their responsibilities. Yes the Tues game was an issue but minor.
Basically, the entire group fell apart. While I blame that mostly on TC, the players did nothing to help.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 17, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I remember them saying it was the first MNF game in Detroit in decades
It may have been pushed to Tuesday
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Damn, I ended my "comments without a reply fail" streak...
I thought I was destined for reply greatness but now…I just don’t know.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Keep your head up, kid.
Just gotta focus on making good decisions, playing better football.
We got your back.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Ha
I’m already blaming it on the media
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Yeah yeah yeah, media, lack of a proper off season, etc.
Sounds like the Mike Victim and all his whining. :-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
But But But
none of that should matter, Vick said no one could design a defense that could stop him.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Did he say that?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
yeap
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/vick-says-you-cant-design-a-defense-to-stop-me/
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, thanks for that TAWD
There is no “taken out of context” or any of that BS with that one.
And then Andy Reid, the HEAD COACH starts gushing about Vick and the offense as a whole!
They all were buying in hook line and sinker this offseason. Overconfident much?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
I remember the excuses
that were given after he said this. Things like “only his injuries and WR drops make this statement untrue”. “The Packers did not stop Vick in the playoffs last year, Riley Cooper f*cked it up on that last play”
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Ridiculous.
They didn’t win another game after beating us in week 15. Since that game, the Eagles are 3-9.
They got problems. But they also have talent. Let’s hope they don’t put it all together this week.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
One P.A.A.T.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
You are the Farve of NFL Blogs
just don’t text anyone your…… greatness
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
hey man keep making mistakes
you can only get better from them. I mean if a baseball player manages to hit .400 for a season it is labeled an incredible feat. The fact remains he only does the job 40 percent of the time.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
http://insider.justbet.com/nfl/2010/12/new-york-giants-vs-minnesota-vikings-in-detroit/
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Damn, my failures are coming fast and furious at this point.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Coming fast and furious.
I think they got a pill for that (?)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Indeed
Faster than eyes can see.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I think she is saying
Oh mush push, oh mush push, mushpushmushpush AHHHHHH
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
She keeps blocking the view from the front window by moving her head around.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
Last time you posted this I couldn't stop watching and here I am doing it again!
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
I do hope you are not at work....
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
No biggie...I work with her.
It happens all the time. No, the shirt never comes any further unbuttoned around the office either.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I need to come to Buffalo.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Apparently we all do...
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
eh...that's all we need is more guys chasing the one attractive bra-less NASCAR passenger wannabe
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
damn
maybe one day it will
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Working (?) from home
I love you for this one man…. sniff.
I’m gonna go look again.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Yeah mesmerizing...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
My eyes saw "them" fine...
Don’t need glasses for that!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Nov 17, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still waiting for the damn blowse to pop open...Where's my scissors..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Once again, Uncle Fes brilliance!
Cool picture
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Very nice that you knew which side was which....
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
You sure it isnt
when he just takes a stroll over there?
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
I don't it is listing more than a puke...
He probably was taking a shit…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Or coaching up Young
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I was always under the impression that Walruses..
Didn’t need boats..He must be paid well..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
True but they are also musically inclined
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eagles Week! Who could not be....
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Glad to see you bringing your A game
I guess we can even say you’re… Stepping up and making big plays!
I know I say this about many of your GIFs
but this might be the best ever
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
My ribs now hurt worse than Vicks..LOL!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
the guy dancing with "Andy"
is what makes this a great one
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
It's almost like
Fester knows where we’re going before we get there and he has those gif’s cued up.
Go Giants!
I have no idea how he does it..
You post a comment and bingo !!!…The guy is amazing…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Photo Bucket?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
4gifs.com
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 17, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Why does this remind me of the canteena
in Star Wars?
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Where's Leo??
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Nov 17, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I love the poutiness evident in every answer.
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions
Nice! i remember this guy from Cannonball Run II
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
One of my favorite actors...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Handsome feller too
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Yes, but Part 2
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
The Reid thing
is another consideration I didn’t even think of. In addition to the decision they are going to be forced to make about Vick in 2013 (take a cap hit, get rid of him and find another QB, or keep him at what… 34 years old and make it even more difficult to re-sign McCoy), they have to decide if they want to fire the coach and blow the whole system up.
I wonder if Reid doesn’t get one more year, and if they don’t turn things around big time next year, they take the cap hit, get rid of Vick and start over… building the team around McCoy and a QB from early in the draft. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they go QB in round 1 or 2 in the upcoming draft in preparation for exactly that.
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions
Well they certainly have to look at Reid after this season...
He’s been around along time..but has failed on every final lap since he’s been there…and they invested a scary amount of money this year..No results..No return on investment…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah its hard not to, and I'm positive fans will want his head
But on the other hand… Vick is their QB for next year no matter what. If they think he can be their QB beyond 2012, I would think you have to give Reid one more shot with this group. Changing all the coaches and the system out from under Vick is unlikely to return him to his 2010 form, so doing that probably forces their hand when the opportunity to cut ties comes around in 2013.
If they are thinking he’s not the answer at the position then I guess they can let Reid go now, let Vick flounder through next season and hope they find another answer in the meantime. I guess the way things are going, that almost seems more likely.
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 17, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
no which player from the Giants would you take?
would LOVE to see Jason’s asnwer to that question
by Plaxico Burress on Nov 17, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions
Beckum
I think Beckum would be great for them
Yeah and we’ll throw in Derrick Martin too.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 17, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Do they keep records for
number of penalties committed by a player in a single play? That special teams play by Martin was obnoxious. He did everything but pull out a shank.
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 17, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
That play took alot of nuts...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Need more than
Giambi’s gold thong to absorb that blow, ouch!!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Nov 18, 2011 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
coming from that dude...
i would expect a “no one.”
by Plaxico Burress on Nov 17, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
I am surprised about the low level of snark in his repsonses
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Bekum, yes, Bekum
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
we already have the answer
Steve Smith 12 – 1
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
After perusing the BGN blog...
I have to say I have a new respect for our own Ed Valentine. He portrays leadership with a level of class and respect that is worth praise. Thank you Ed.
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
I dont understand how you think
Jason or Jimmy arent “classy” with the running of their blog.
If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
I have come to eat crow
I was one Eagles fan who completely thought the Giants dropped the ball on the non-Steve Smith signing. I respected what SS was before his injury and thought he was easily their 2nd best WR. And after seeing Manningham go down in week 2 I really thought that week 3 game against the Eagles would’ve been huge to have SS to step in to start. Then Cruz goes off for 100+ and 2 TD’s and now weeks later Cruz arguably looks like the Giants 2nd best WR and SS looks like garbage.
The Giants were absolutely right in assuming Steve’s knee was not healthy and wouldn’t be until at least late this year. That has turned out to be more than true. And after seeing drops galore from Smith as well as seeing him have trouble getting separation and followed by the cherry on top… falling down two yards short of the first down on a 3rd and 20ish play. I have to admit I was wrong about Smith. So were the Eagles. And the Giants made the right call.
Kudos to Reese for that and while I’m at it… best of luck the rest of the way.
Nice of you to admit you were wrong.
We all need to do that from time to time. And when someone does, it just adds to their credibility in the future, IMO.
SS may not be fully healthy now, but in a year, if he is still an Eagle, you might get a better version of him.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Well, its probably more complicated than that
I’ve been really surprised at the drops he’s had. Drops were never an issue with him before, so its weird to see that now. I’m not surprised, however, that he hasn’t been an instant success with the Eagles… he just isn’t that kind of receiver. He’s not really big, really strong, or really fast so its not like he’s just going to go out and beat defenses straight up. His value in the Giants offense was his chemistry with Eli… those two always seemed to know what they other one was going to do, which interestingly enough is something that has been a weak point with the Giants passing game this year.
He may still be limited by his knee… it was a really bad injury (initially they said career-threatening). If so, it doesn’t seem to show from what I’ve seen though. The way things have progressed this year, I doubt he’d be a top 3 receiver on the Giants this year anyway, but I have little doubt he would have been more productive in the Giants offense than in the Eagles’.
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 17, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Smith in pact with JR
I said this the other day but what if JR said, “Steve, go join the Eagles for a year and really play lousy, screw them up. We’ll take you back next year and pay you extra for the deed”.
Not saying this is what happened, just sayin’….
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 17, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
no spot
on the roster for SS11
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Not neccesarily true
moving forward GMen, if he is healthy next year….Manningham is a free agent, just as Smith was. In hindsight everybody is applauding now, but many were upset at the beginning of the season. I stated at the beg. of the season he wouldn’t be ready until the second half of the season, at the earliest.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Nov 18, 2011 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
With that said
it wouldn’t surprise me if he is productive next year or back with the G-Men?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Nov 17, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I knew there was a reason I liked you smitty!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Nov 17, 2011 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's nice of you
There are plenty of Giants fans on this blog who should be at the table with you.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Ed, This One's For You (and whoever else wants to respond)
I think we must use Barden’s size and athletic ability to introduce another threat to pass defenses. But how do we get him into the Offense with a receiving corps of Nicks, MM, Cruz and Ballard? Also need an RB in game. So who comes out? Nicks best hands, MM best speed, Cruz best at getting open in middle of field and great shiftiness, Ballard toughest in traffic. Any suggestions, Coaches?
DavebrownNOT
We have the running attack..Fizzle, Fart and Feethurt...
Wait til we unleash that combo on the birds..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm thinking Feethurt
isn’t going to play. But what do I know?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 23 PHI 21
Hear Feethurt
Says may play Sunday and WILL play vs Saints
DavebrownNOT
I think this is a must win game for the Giants
Beat the Eagles and put the past to rest. Let’s finish on a second half surge.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Hey should ask for us access to their website to make posts. Come on getting banded from last game was little harsh because we rubbed it in their face. They do the same but it is OK. It just Shows how BGN is. When we smoke them this week we will just sit back watch their fan base explode.
Ah that's okay..hey they have a right to have a
Closed casket, private funeral if they want..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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