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Giants-49ers Pro Football Focus Review

Time for this week's look at the Pro Football Focus review of the New York Giants performance in Sunday's 27-20 loss to the San Francisco 49ers. As always, I don't defend the PFF methodology or consider these grades to be gospel. There is always some subjectivity, so they are just for discussion.

That said, let's get started.

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OFFENSE

Eli Manning (+5.6)
Danny Ware (+2.4) ... As I said Monday, this was Ware's best game as a pro.
Mario Manningham (+1.1) ... PFF likes what Manningham did Sunday more than I do.
Will Beatty (-1.1)
Chris Snee (-1.7)
David Baas (-3.3)
Kareem McKenzie (-4.1)
David Diehl (-6.2)

Obviously, PFF disagrees with my assessment in Monday's 'Kudos & Wet Willies' that this group had played pretty well overall. What I think is that PFF's grading system does not take into account the quality of the team the Giants played against. Here is what PFF said about the line play:

It wasn't long ago the Giants had one of the league's better offensive lines. Watching this game you would be hard pressed to imagine it, especially as three of those on this line were part of those impressive units. This line of William Beatty (-1.1), David Diehl (-6.2), David Baas (-3.3), Chris Snee (-1.7) and Kareem McKenzie (-4.1) combined to allow 16 pressures on the quarterback and two knockdowns. That goes some way to explaining their combined negative grade of -16.4, but they were all sub-par as run blockers too, making life difficult for the Giants on offense across the board. The offensive line for the Giants isn't this bad, but it has fallen a long way since it's heyday, and has become an issue that needs to be addressed. Worse than that, it is now capable of performances like this, which can torpedo their chances of a win in any given game.

At -16.3 for the season, Diehl is now 69th among 73 guards included in PFF's grades.

DEFENSE

Antrel Rolle (+3.1) ... A grade, in my mind, that was richly deserved
Jason Pierre-Paul (+2.5) 
Kenny Phillips (+1.5)
Rocky Bernard (+1.4)
Corey Webster (+1.4)
Linval Joseph (+1.4) ... What was the name of that guy who went to the Washington Redskins?
Dave Tollefson (-1.3) ... Poor Tolly. As hard as he plays, PFF never likes the work that he does.
Greg Jones (-1.9) 

SPECIAL TEAMS

Lawrence Tynes (+1.2)
Derrick Martin (-3.0) ... Can we give 'Penalty Machine' Martin a -1,000? That was a ridiculous display he put on Sunday.

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Diehl needs to go

Not based on PFF numbers, he just cannot do the job any longer. He was very good and I had hair long ago. Neither is true any longer.

Martin, I would cut him regardless. I would not have any confidence as a coach putting him in any situation. Terrible behavior, terrible judgement. Just plain dumb.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 15, 2011 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

I dont have hair anymore either :(

and agree o all points. Deihl is making far too much money to be playing the way he is. Cut him at the end of the year, and possibly bring him back on a back-up’s contract.

by Plaxico Burress on Nov 15, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Booth taking over for him

At least the defenders would have to get around his butt before they got to Eli or the rbs. Get those cheeks onto the second level and watch out! I have been disappointed in Baas so far. I hoped he would be better.

by Madhops on Nov 15, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Def Agree on Boothe

There’s no reason he shouldn’t be playing by now. He’s clearly better than Diehl now and his performances and versatility show it. He’s a cheaper option, i believe he’s stronger and quicker, + when he filled in for snee @ RG he got some real good push on a couple of runs and got to the second level. Deihl can’t get past David Baas after he snaps the ball. Time for a change, there holding on to that 07 08 09 hope like the did with O’Hara last year. To the left to the left

by AHoustonGiant on Nov 15, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

infuriating

Boothe has to be a better option than Diehl.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Diehl & the O-Line

Personally, I think if the Giants can find a good Center in free agency or the draft, they should move Baas to Diehl’s spot (he’s a natural Guard) . I haven’t been a fan of the work Baas has done so far. His shotgun snaps consistently hit Eli in the shins and at least initially he was having problems calling out the protection packages. I think they should take that responsibility away from him and move him back to his natural position and I think his production will increase greatly.

by Masakari on Nov 15, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Hate to admit it but DD has to go

Rather than cut him, a super-sub? He’s played all spots but C.

Agree that OL should be a focus unless you think NYG bench strength will come forward – Brewer at T and Petrus at G.

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Nov 15, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

super sub him only if he redos his contract. He's owed a TON of money

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Diehl sucks, but he will continue to start as long as Coughlin is the coach. I can guarantee that.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Nov 15, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to disagree with anything here.

Derrick Martin probably gets cut to make room for Jimmy Kennedy.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Rolle crushed it on Sunday.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

What about a 5th corner?

Even with prince coming back I don’t like having only 4 true corners available.

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22

by Willgfass on Nov 15, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...

Cweb, Ross, Coe, Prince.

Ughh, yeah….

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Amukamara gets off the PUP-list

this week needs to get activated so i guess he will take martins rooster spot. I don’t know if they’ll release or activate Kennedy

by EJAAY on Nov 15, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Prince was never on the PUP. He was always a part of the original 53 man roster

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Linval

JR sure knows how to find Talent for the D-Line.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

unfortunately, the same could not be said for Canty....who for all but a few plays was pretty much invisible.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont know about that

cantys job is to suck up blockers and clog the middle. The 6 rushes for 0 yards by Frank Gore is evidence the man did his job. in the past i would agree with you. This year tho, IMO, Canty is playing balls to the wall

by Plaxico Burress on Nov 15, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

linval looks incredibly fast

for his size and strength. I was shocked by the burst he had on that sack

by Badshaw44 on Nov 15, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yea linval has been looking real good

cant wait to have the Marvin Austin-Linval Jospeh combo collasping pockets left and right.

by Plaxico Burress on Nov 15, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

This year....yes

That last game?…..nah, he was getting blown off the line. Linval and JPP were the better run defenders at DT.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

This^^^

Canty may seem invisible, but he should be taking on 2-3 Blockers at the same time.

The only success 49ers seemed to have running the ball was on the edges… not straight up the middle, and that is on Canty, Linval and Bernard.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

this is a confusing statement.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Nov 15, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry about that.

what I meant to say, is if teams cant run right up the middle, the DTs are doing their job. They are meant to occupy blockers and form a wall, so the opposing O-Line cant make it to the second level.

The 49ers had almost no success running up the middle. unless we were in our NASCAR formation. That is all the proof you need that our DT’s including Canty did a good job.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

This excuse is getting old

Sorry but this notion that everyone on the dline is triple teamed every play is pure folly. The other team doesn’t have 13 olineman. Everyone is getting their chances with one on one match-ups as teams account for different guys along the line. Canty just hasn’t been that good. Despite Ed’s continued attempts at over pumping the new guys and disrespecting players that have moved on, Linval hasn’t been that consistently great either. He’s shown flashes but whether it stamina, mental lapse, or just Fewell messing with the line too much he isn’t a constant force in the middle.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i think triple teaming is an exagerration

but he takes up a blocker, and sometimes two, and occupies them. this frees up the other dlinemen to do their thing. yeah hes not a stats guy or a tackle machine, but he was a 3-4 DE, this is what his role is..eat up blockers.

by Badshaw44 on Nov 15, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

he was a 34 de

but it was a slant based 34, in other words 1 gap not traditional 2 gap eat up blockers.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Linval hasn’t been that consistently great either.

“great” ? maybe not . getting better? MOST DEFINITELY

Remember the kids only really played in 2 hand full of games.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Nov 15, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not trasjing the kid

Just pointing out that Ed is overhyping him and dissing Coefield. I think we can just feel good about a kid showing potential and not go into the land of fallacy.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Canty is holding his own

and I don’t really have any major negative things to say about him.

You’re right Troy, Linval is getting better and we’ll see great improvement by the end of the season. I think it takes DT’s some time to reach their full potential.

If only we had Linval and Barry… although I’m hoping Austin will turn into that guy. We should have two great young DT’s for a long time to come

by KumaBlue42 on Nov 15, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Canty's a beast

I dunno what you’re talking about.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

not last sunday.....

He has been for the rest of the year.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

not true

he’s not putting up the stats, but he’s constantly in the backfield on running plays.

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Nov 15, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

just calling it how I saw it on Sunday.

He’s been awesome for the vast majority of the year, but there were plenty of instances where he was pushed off the LOS by only one blocker. He had a few good penetrations into the backfield, but that summed up the positives for the game. Not saying he was terrible, just mediocre for this one game and didn’t execute when he had the opportunities. It got overlooked though, because Linval had a pretty baller game and he was the one commanding both the G and C for a lot of the game.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

This status of this line is upsetting

Especially looking back to 2007-2008. I really hope JR addreses this early and often in the draft. Wouldnt mind a new LG and C…. Baas has been a decent fill-in, but i dont know if heis the answer there.

by Plaxico Burress on Nov 15, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Baas has been injured and hasn't played some games

so he gets more time to show his stuff. If JR thinks hes a “Pro Bowl caliber” player, then he’ll get his shot.

by Badshaw44 on Nov 15, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Bass had better be the Answer

The Giants paid a good chunk of change to get him but I agree Bass has not played well when he is playing. Hopefully he is just getting acclimated to a new system and don’t forget this is just his second year playing the center position San Fran converted him from the guard or tackle position a couple years back.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Nov 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Sadly

so far he looks like another FA fail for Reese. Outside of a singe screen play early in the season where he ran out and leveled a guy, I haven’t seen anything out of Baas to make me think he warranted the cash. Reese got caught not having something in place for the inevitable day that iron man O’Hara finally completely broke down physically.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not ready to categorize

Baas as a failure. Both of his bookends at guard have bee awful.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i would call him a FA fail just yet

and as far as “another FA fail for JR” goes… who else has JR signed who you think is a fail?

by Plaxico Burress on Nov 15, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Call it another FA overpay if that feels better

Baas joins the likes of Rolle, Canty, and Bernard as guys whose paychecks didn’t really synch with what the team got in return. People are going to have a hissy that I put Rolle in that list due to him playing better this year, but I still don’t think we are getting our money’s worth based on the number blown coverages he seems to be a part of. The fail in all of these situations may actually be unfair of me to pin as a FA fail. The reality is the fail in each case was leading up to those FA periods where Reese didn’t have a viable plan in place for an obvious upcoming need and he had to overspend on whatever was available at the time.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Baas has a " fail " playing directly to the left of him

He can’t do everything on his own. I’d give him an offseason before I call the guy a bust.

by KumaBlue42 on Nov 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah..he hasn't had enough time to learn the calls he needs to make..

Eli is forced to do all of that..Baas just snaps the ball…When Phonebooth is on center he only snaps the ball..The center is supposed to point out blocking assignments..Eli gets no help..which is another reason I think he is having remarkable season..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Baas at this point in his career

And this point in the season should be able to make the line calls, the fact that he can’t or can’t do it well is a bad sign.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Baas has been fine

its the one to his left and the decline of Snee that’s been the problem.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

My take is the flip

The decline of Snee and the degree to which Diehl is sturggling, has a lot to do with the quality at the center position. Baas just isn’t getting it done from the angle of making the line calls or his blocking. Big Mac’s age is finally catching up with him and Beatty is still making mistakes on his side of the line. If anything the guards are being hurt by the play around them rather than the guards hurting the play of those around them.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

My take is the flip

this was implied.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno....I do agree that Baas has not been playing up to expectations

but I think that’s cause he’s playing hurt.

I’ve seen Diehl just get wrecked on a 1 v 1 matchup multiple times this season. Snee hasn’t been dominant either. All three make each other worse anyway.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Still have not seen a positive grade for Diehl all year

my god he stinks

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 15, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I dont always agree with PFF

But there numbers definitely confirm what my eyes see when it comes to Diehl. How bad can Petrus be??? This is how I felt last year when Diehl (common denominator) was at LT.

by Giants56 on Nov 15, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

The Cordle kid of the PS

Is getting in as the extra lineman “TE” rather than Petrus. That means there is something more there than just Coughlin and his guys, since Petrus should have “seniority” over Cordle. Perhaps he just isn’t as good as some of us, myself included, hoped he was going to be.

by bigblue777 on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Run Blocking

I’m sure part of it was due to the Niners having a great run D but honestly I was very unhappy with the run blocking in this game. We had Linebackers and Lineback deep in the backfield half of the game on running plays. Until that improves our RBs are going to suffer too (and I still worry the inability to run will eventually start to affect the passing game).

by Midnight Blue on Nov 15, 2011 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

if this was the first game the run game was terrible, then OK

but actually the run blocking was probably the best its been in weeks against the Niners.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

i thought the run blocking was fine last game

especially since it was against the #1 run defense on the road. Jacobs looked terribly slow at the end of the game and the 3rd-and-2 draw play to D.J. was just completely blown apart by a top 5 defensive player in Patrick Willis..can’t win them all.

by Badshaw44 on Nov 15, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

maybe things are starting to go in the right direction? I agree its also Jacobs being a tortoise.

We need a damn RB.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

I will again credit the defense for part of it but I was seeing guys in our backfield all game. You can’t have a carry for no gain or a loss without someone being at or behind the line of scrimmage. And we had a ton of those. There just seems to be no push up front. And as far as Jacobs goes, big backs need more than 1/2 step to get moving. And that’s not going to happen with a guy draped on him 2 yards deep.

by Midnight Blue on Nov 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

you saw guys in the backfield

when the 49ers were absolutely positive we were running. Their 2 LBzzz are not considered the best for no reason at all. They shot the gaps faster than our backs could get to them.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

It also had me starting to wonder if the issue with our run game this year is not the line or the backs but instead the playcalling being predictable when we run. And this is not a “I hate Kevin Gilbride!” thing (I’ve never really been that down on him), just an honest possibility.

by Midnight Blue on Nov 15, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Nov 15, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a pretty good fart..but needs to practice on duration

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I tokd you about these PFF numbers!!!

What is the deal with Deihl?? I tried to focus on him while watching the game (on TV) and for the plays that I do, he seems to be OK. Last week he steamrolled Fat Albert and this week according to PFF he stunk. What gives? Is he becoming a liability on the O-line? What do you think Ed?? I like DD,but is it time to look at someone else, or at least start the grooming process?

by oldschoolblue64 on Nov 15, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Two words. (I know Ror won't like this....)

Cordy Glenn.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

one play steamrolling Fat Albert

doesn’t make a season. Bucky Bleeping Dent hit a huge home run. That didn’t make him a home run hitter.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I was pretty trashed on Sunday...

but i recall a pass being droped by Cruz only to watch KG and Eli dial up the same play call on the next play….which was intercepted.

did that really happen? or was i that intoxicated

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Nov 15, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

yeah.

Surprisingly, even Joe Buck noticed that.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Eli made some of the dumbest throws possible in this game (there were a couple should be INTs in there too)

And also some of the most brilliant throws I have ever seen.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

of course that INT never happens if Cruz just catches the pass the first time around

but yeah, some questionalbe passes, missing NIcks wide open was pretty bad….Eli can make that throw.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Nov 15, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah....also was frustrated by Eli not audibling out of a run when the 9ers were clearly run blitzing.

He had a very un-Eli-like game on Sunday…..the only reason he had a good game was because of the insane throws he made. He didn’t make great decisions and did not do a great job at the LOS.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with both of you

Eli was a little uneven. But credit that Niner D. Great ballhawks in the backfield, active and physical linebacking (God, I wish we had a Patrick Willis in the middle), and a very solid front line.
 But Eli is more accurate this year than I ever remember. He threw some absolute strikes Sunday. Those are the type of throws that mark a QB as elite in this league, and this year Eli is just that this year. You’ll always have bad moments against a very good D in this league. Unless your name id Aaron Rodgers. That guy is just sick right now.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Nov 15, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he tossed a couple of turds...Eli doesn't throw well when he rolls out...

He’s a surgeon when he moves around in the pocket..unfortunately he was forced to run for his life too many times…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

The throw

To Nicks was a Incredible And the trow to Manningham and Cheese in the back of the end zone was friggin amazing! I shouted at My brother only Eli Mother D##kin Manning baby!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Nov 15, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

WR aren't going to be wide open every play

at times the ball needs to be forced. A QB needs to rely on his WR to make a play or prevent an INT.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yes it was

I screamed at the TV after that

Team TAWD:
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

50-50

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 15, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah Cruz said it was a different play

but he had the same route in each.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

This PFF stuff I really don't like..

But I guess I can understand the scores this week..I didn’t see a score on Jacobs though..or am I going blind?…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

they don't give out grades that graded out in between +0.9 to -0.9

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh okay thanks

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah....just means that they thought he had an average game.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

That was a reasonable assement on our O-line...

We all already know we have troubles there this year..for some odd reason…overall I thought this was one of their better games against a very stingy defense..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

We were better run blocking in this game. We did give up a few pressure though

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah accumulatively we had a decent total...

But that damn Jacobs keeps breaking it outside…They need to put a leash on him..He had one play where the line parted the ocean for him..and he pulls a Baryy Sanders act..Does he really know how much he weighs?…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly. I didn't think anything would make me angrier than seeing JPP playing DT

….but then I see Jacobs forced to run stretch plays.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes JPP at tackle..ridiculous...waste of talent..I had to check the born on date on my

Beer to makes sure I wasn’t hallucinating…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

JPP made the most of it with his run defense.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Tuck

Heard him with Francesa. Just about admitted he’s underperforming but says he feels good and rounding into form. Lets hope so. We need him to be his Pro Bowl self starting Sunday.

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Nov 15, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

indeed. I think he's really concerned about his neck, so he's a little hesitant

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i called out yesterday and watch it as well...

did Tuck really not record a sack or tackle in that game?

thats not our Justin….

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Nov 15, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

something I've been watching very closely for a while now

I think what bothers me the most is that when playing that DT/NT role, he’s not not exactly polishing his talents as a DE.

he’s just otu there taking on Double Teams….trying to knock passes down

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

That's exactly it. I've been watching him very closely too (because lets face it...he's a fan favorite)

and the thing with him is….he really does have a shitty pass rush arsenal. The reason he’s real good is because he has an awesome bull rush, and his flexibility/long arms automatically give him great leverage. But that gets washed out if he’s facing a guard or center instead of a tackle.

JPP is fast…real fast….but doesn’t have the lateral agility or a swim move to get by the guard, so he just ends up getting stonewalled for a lot of plays. At least with the tackle, he has a chance to either run by on the edge, or just overpower some of the lighter tackles….

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

it's to the point where you hardly even see him rush the QB...

from the DE position anymore.

he’s usually only playing DE on running plays.

but his technique is suffering…..and than you start to wonder if maybe a DT taking on the role w/ JPP going back to DE (even w/ a 3 man rush) would be more effective?

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Nov 15, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah....I'm just not sure why this is even happening.

The dude is 275 lbs. Not exactly a strong interior presence at that size. Is it because Fewell thinks JPP can be effective there?….because he isn’t really.

Or is it because the DTs are getting tired….If that’s the case…I can’t wait to get Kennedy back and have a rotation of Anvil, Shredder, Rocky, and Kennedy.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

it's almost like

he knows damn well he’s a force, and just wants him on the field….regardless. like Bobbi points out below

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Nov 15, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose, but that still ain't right.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's because of 2007

Tuck at DT worked there so Coughlin is forcing Fewell to play JPP and Tuck there again with hopes that something will work out.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Nov 15, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think they know they got to get him out there somewhere..somehow

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao

I thought the same things…

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree that Ware looked very good.

He was slashing into holes and fighting for additional yardage. I’m not a huge fan of his, but I haven’t seen a Giant back hit the hole as quickly in a long time.

by saturday on Nov 15, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

Call me crazy

I do not see it that way. The offense had over 400 yards went up and down the field, one sack, the runnng game was solid against the top rush D (except the predictable 2nd and long delay/draw run), Eli had time to throw. Do not see the O Line that negative.

While the Defense could not get off the field, allowed Smith to shine, not enough pressue on Smith and gave up 27 points.

Just do not see the numbers that way.

by GiantFaninColorado on Nov 15, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Well like I said I thought overall we played a decent game..

We just made too many mistakes and they didn’t, hence we lost..It was interesting TC pointed out that they talked all week about the potential for an onside kick…and they blew it..He went nuts on the sideline over that…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

the offense I thought marched up and down on the supposedly stout Niners. The running game wasn’t exactly 2008 Earth Wind and the occasional Fire but I thought they were respectable regardless of the yardage total.

Eli Manning is a friggin beast and I really, REALLY hope this team makes the playoffs this year cuz once you make that second season its the play of your QB that takes you so far.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed..I just hope Aaron Rodgers trips on a roller skate..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he's had his bell rung a few times...

He looks like he has one now…When I look at that guy, I think..there’s something wrong with that guy..lol

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

AR can play as well as he is capable

Our D is responsible for making that not so good….

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Nov 15, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

89 rushing yards

from our RBs. That’s not very good.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Need to win 4 more games

PHI
DAL
WSH
DAL

The NYJ would be a bonus.

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Nov 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Rex also thinks the fans are doable based on his comment Sunday...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

They can do themselves...

Rex is happily married to a beautiful woman who never had a poorly scripted foot fetish video posted on YouTube.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Nov 15, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, no Oscar nod

for that video

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha!!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

If Dallas wins their next 3 winnable games

then we will definitely need to win out in the division and take out the Jets

by DukBudr on Nov 15, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we can go 1-1 v. Saints and Packers

Obviously I like our chances against the Saints better, but I still am not convinced the Packers are a perfect team, and we’re as good a team as any left on their schedule. The Chargers game was evidence that they can be beaten by a team with enough playmakers. The Saints have a good record, but they benefit from a weaker than expected division. I don’t think they’re as good as their superbowl team that beat up on us.

Go Giants!

by rich316 on Nov 15, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

awe

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

YAY!!

its ninja cat!

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

False start on the dog..LOL!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate calling games a must win since they really all are

but this one I’d say is important. Beating Philly makes us 2-1 in the division. Also all this talk of that team being dead is premature. They’ve come back plenty of years to be 8-8, 9-7 or whatever to make the playoffs and I think they beat the Giants one of those years. Need to cut that head off. It also makes games like GB and NO less important although of course I’d like to win those games.

Thing is I always predict a split with the bEast teams, so that means we’re due for a loss against Philly.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

As I said on Jimmy's blog

The Eagles are like the Duke Blue Devils… they’re not dead until the final seconds tick off the clock. More lives than a cat.

by brisulph on Nov 15, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

c'mon brian, this team ain't going 7-0....one more loss and they're pretty much a wrap

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

oh indeed

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

ha

That’s fresh!

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Nov 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Wire references never get old right?

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

never can

never will

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't predict anything with a division game.

you can be sure that the Giants will be awake from the beginning in this one.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

How many times in the last 5 years

have they lost some games, looked out of it, only to charge back, and make the play-offs? It has happened a few times. Not saying it is likely, but they are in the same realm of they inexplicably stay alive when common sense says they are done, at least a level that surpasses your average team.

by brisulph on Nov 15, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think the Giants have forgotten how much Vick was crying last time.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

plus this will be the first face to face meeting b/t Osi and Lady Gaga

so sparks should fly.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

True!!

Someone else will be getting broken ribs.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Nov 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

They're dead for this year

But they can still win a game here and there, especially against a division rival.

Go Giants!

by rich316 on Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Ed

Obviously, PFF disagrees with my assessment in Monday’s ‘Kudos & Wet Willies’ that this group had played pretty well overall

as fans we’re settling for less. Our running game was so bad now when they have moderate success we think they played well. They didn’t. On Sunday we rushed from 93 yards, 89 if we discount Eli’s scrambles. That’s not very good.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

i'm with Ed on this one i think

San Fran has consistently gotten pressure with bringing 4 only, so the fact that they continued this trend is not surprise to me. and while Eli had to slide to his left and right a few times Sunday, i never felt like his life was in danger to the point where the line was breaking down. Also, we rushed for minimal yards, but again, this is the number 1 rushing D in the league. they give up like 70 yards a game. so to me, the fact that we got 89 on them tells me that we did better than most teams have done this year. not overwhelmingly so, but enough in my eyes to move the chains and set up better passing situations. So i’m in agreement with Ed, PFF isn’t taking into account who we were facing in their equation.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It was the 2nd most yards against the 49ers, I believe. Also, I thought the pass protection was pretty decent

Also, I think they were hamstrung by the playcalling. You could tell that the 49ers knew EXACTLY when we were going to run, and were ready to tee off on the OL.

That being said, this OL is a shell of themselves from a couple years ago, though I am becoming increasingly impressed with what Will Beatty has been showing.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yes on all of this

that 3rd and 2 was SO telegraphed. and called from the sideline, btw. And yes, i’m on the Beatty bandwagon, always have been actually.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 15, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been on the Beatty bandwagon as well....though I'm literally seeing a week by week improvement.

I can firmly say that I’m more worried about our RT than I am by our LT…..and that’s a good thing.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

which begs the question

At -16.3 for the season, Diehl is now 69th among 73 guards included in PFF’s grades.

why run behind Diehl is such a critical situation. Also, if memory serves me most of the runs on that last drive were behind Diehl.

by GMen56-11 on Nov 15, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

I feel bad for the 4 guys who rank worse.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

They ought to hand the ball off to Diehl acouple of times...

See idiot???..That’s what it feels like for a runner when you don’t block !!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

They probably ran behind Diehl

because they don’t check PFF ratings before they call a play.

by Badshaw44 on Nov 15, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

PFF ratings

should be sharpied on their foreheads.

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Nov 15, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Help: Having a get together for Sunday's game

What goes good with Hot-dogs and chips: Pale Ale, Coronas, Blue Moon…or straight up Tarantula Shots with Heineken!

by Bavaro 89 on Nov 15, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

can't go wrong with Blue Moon

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 15, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You want a lager instead of an ale.

Go with Blue Moon or Heineken.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 15, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple of strippers wouldn't hurt...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

strippers

and dancing bears.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

lmao...

so funny, its almost scary.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Nov 15, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha...Bavaro has got to

Spring a little more dough..for the strippers..gawd !!…Either that or hand out brown paper bags…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

All the above.

Bobbi’s suggestions included.

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Nov 15, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

this

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

btw yes,

that is in fact a deep fryer in the middle

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Nov 15, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good question...and the damn cups don't leak!!..haha

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd get some cheese and crackers too

maybe a wedge of Saint Andre and some breadsticks and/or some sheep’s milk brie and some ritz crackers.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Natty Ice and some toothless hoes

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Nov 15, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO!

Toothless is good for certain occasions….but that’s not here nor there.

by Bavaro 89 on Nov 15, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well obviously as you can see..We all jumped in there

To help you out brother..You’ll have a blast..haha

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Step up and make big plays

Walking the Talk…

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Nov 15, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The Running Game

Diehl needs to be replaced by Boothe. Thought Snee looked better vs SF. Can live with McKenzie as long as he stays away from penalties. Think Baas ok, but not run mover like he was at SF. Main problem is BJ has to run behind Pascoe or Hyno with power into the Defense. If Bradshaw not ready, wanna see more of Scott.

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Nov 15, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

I wish I could go back in time

maybe 2 years, so I could post on BBV that there would be significant clamoring for Boothe to start at guard.

by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 15, 2011 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I'd like to go back in time 35 years..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I could tell my parents DONT DO IT! LOOK AT THE RESULTS!

by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 15, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!!...haha!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember...

most accidents occur within 25 miles of home.

by Cranky50 on Nov 15, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

and let them know its to replace Diehl at LG

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 15, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Boothe

Played LG before? How has he done?

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Nov 15, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah last year..he did a good job...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that's a long distance Phone call right there

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Nov 15, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Diehl Done?

I dont hold all that much from PFF, but Diehl has graded miserably in just about every game so there must be some truth to it. Also, I have watched him and he gets beaten on running plays repeatedly along with occasionally letting his guy pressure Eli. Think Boothe ready to take over at LG. Can Boothe do any worse than Diehl so far? What are coaches thinking? Ed, any thoughts?

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Nov 15, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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