Giants' Kickoff Return Job Seems To Be Up For Grabs
Earlier today I mentioned the story from Ralph Vacchiano noting that the New York Giants have taken the kick return job away from Devin Thomas, likely replacing him with veteran D.J. Ware and/or rookie Da'Rel Scott. Is this the right move by the Giants? Also, what can we expect to see from whoever goes back there?
Thomas has averaged 23.7 yards per return this season and is third in the league with 17 returns of more than 20 yards. He has had an annoying tendency to muff kicks, though, and was replaced by Jerrel Jernigan Sunday against the New England Patriots after muffing his second kick in three games.
"I can be a stud back there," Thomas said. "But I'm a dud if I'm out there muffing returns."
Thomas is right on both counts. And we know coach Tom Coughlin values ball security first and foremost on kick and punt returns.
Vacchiano indicated that Ware and Scott are likely to get the first opportunities to become the primary kickoff returner. I am actually surprised that Jernigan, the third-round pick from Troy, is not at the top of the depth chart. Perhaps that has to do with the hip injury that kept the rookie receiver out of practice on Thursday, because he was a much more accomplished collegiate kickoff returner at Troy than Scott was at Maryland.
During his four-year collegiate career Jernigan returned 67 kickoffs, including 64 in his final two seasons. He averaged 23.6 yards per kickoff return, taking one back for a touchdown. In 2010, he averaged 25.2 yards on 25 returns.
Scott averaged 21.4 yards on 28 kickoff returns at Maryland. He returned only two kickoffs after his freshman season of 2007. I think everyone is curious to see how his speed might translate in this role, but his collegiate history does not indicate a great deal of success on returns.
Ware was used extensively on kickoff returns last season, returning 21 kickoffs for an average of 20.6 yards. It's a job he can do adequately, but he does not seem like a home run threat from that spot.
So, what are your thoughts on what the Giants should do at this spot, gang?
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just kinda curious as to why JJ was not mentioned in the group w/ Da'Rel and DJ
and come to think about it…did they ever even let Da’Rel get work back there in Camp or Pre Season?
Obviously i’m sure they’ve been working him in practice…but what’s this say about JJ?
especially considering it was JJ who replaced Thomas….
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I think Da'Rell may have had one or two in preseason
but I’m not sure
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
i really should read more...
basically i agree w/ ed
but i can’t lie…i’m excited about Da’Rel getting a shot at more touches.
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it says they shoulda taken Mason Foster
Cue the blocking tight end …
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Could use a 3rd string lbsneezer I guess
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
over a 6th-string WR?
no WAY
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
just wait until JJ is producing next season
he is just getting his feet wet this season
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I hope you are right.
I hope I am wrong. It’s all predictive at this point, with no evidence base.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
++++++++3
Don’t know why Reese took a receiver there foster is a good player def could’ve helped
by AHoustonGiant on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JR was worried about Smith's health
obviously before he went free agent. But he was still covering his beses if Ham leaves as a free agent next season and seeing the last of Hixon on this team. JJ is a naturally slot WR and fits what this offense does. I can’t go nuts on him he not playing now or not drafting Foster. Alot of factors go into this…. no OTAs or rookie camp for him, no one knew Goff would be hurt causing a rookie LB to start, Cruz stepped up big time, etc. But JJ not being used this year does not lable him a bad pick, he’s more on the Manningham path… sitting and learning and getting a huge chance next year.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
to add
it takes a rookie WR time to make an impact especially at slot. Besides your few gems you are looking at an average of 2 years at most 3.
Its a complicated position right behind QB.
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by Giantssincesix on Nov 10, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not trying to down JR OR JJ
it’s just my gut feeling that, at the end of both of their careers, Foster will be considered to have had a significantly better career.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
you may be right
But as long as JJ produces for this team at some point, I’ll be happy.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Jernigan
He did not practice Wednesday due to a hip injury, that might be why.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I would certainly think so....
If Ware and/or Scott were ready to go and considered the best options on the team, I’m sure they wouldn’t have replaced Thomas with JJ in the Pats game. To me it says that they’ve lost cofidence in Thomas and want to go with someone else and JJ isn’t ready to go for the 49’ers game so it’s next man up.
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Ware i think would be best
i remember him back there in seasons past and he got some nice run backs and seemed to be very good with ball control. i just dont trust the rookie out there doing returns. too risky for me at this point in the season. And the point Ed made on that ware does not really have the ‘home run threat’ i think is something that does not matter because of where they kick off from now. None of these options could scare any one sunday in and out ethier.
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he got some nice run backs and seemed to be very good with ball control.
well at least you got 1/2 that statement right.
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How did JJ hurt his hip?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. He has apparently fallen and can't get up.
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by nywins42 on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No word on that
Best guess is that maybe he took a helmet to the hip on the kick return he had last week, but I really don’t know.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
No more DJ Ware.
Not at kick-returner. Not at running back. He is just a guy. He has been just a guy for 4 years now! Give Scott the ball, gosh darn it!
by DJ Farnaquelhe on Nov 10, 2011 12:21 PM EST reply actions
Seriously!
Them’s fightin’ words around here!
I will keep Devin.
Tangibles :“Thomas has averaged 23.7 yards per return this season and is third in the league with 17 returns of more than 20 yards.”
“He has had an annoying tendency to muff kicks, though, and was replaced by Jerrel Jernigan Sunday against the New England Patriots after muffing his second kick in three games.”
How many kicks has he muffed thus far???
Stick with Devin for one more game and go from there.
Yea
Maybe he’s doing it in practice also.
by Fire In The Hole on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
don't think it's the right move
And I don’t think he’s getting canned. Coaches have been doing this. They temporarily benched Ross and Manningham.
Thomas has great acceleration. Give him the hole and he will make a good return. He muffed two catches. Is it focus? Technique? Wind? Skill? What else is there? Throw out technique and skill-He has proven he can catch kickoffs. So wind and focus probably. I don’t think wind was an issue, but who knows. Ross bobbled and lost one in NE. Quinn may have to get him to learn some technique to stay focused before they give him the permanent boot.
I say don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. It seems that is the sentiment here. Everyone is eager to get the rookies into the mix but this job is Thomas’ still. Give Ware the temporary job, but get Thomas back to returning KOs. without the muffs.
The guy was a second rounder. That must count for something.
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Honestly, he reminds me
of Hixon with that straight on acceleration speed. Hixon had that kind of slight weaving approach as he came into the knot of players and then, if he had the slightest hole, he’s take it and move off on a (north-south) tangent to open space. Thomas is the closest to Hixon IMO in the way he runs the ball.
Here’s a stab at a solution: Maybe he’s got ADHD. Put some friggen earplugs in to cut down on stimulus. If he’s anxious, give him something to smooth out. A klonapin maybe.
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exactly agree on all points
he fixes his muff issues he is an adequate to good returner
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I think its an ok move
The problem is this guy hasn’t done anything for the Redskins and has only shown “flashes” with our squad. He has had plenty of time to show “something” of value.
He is a decent returner, but you are definitely not holding your breath for a big play with him.
Maybe Scott could do something who knows, I think the coaches know best on this one.
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by Giantssincesix on Nov 10, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I remember
a discussion here where it was asked what the difference was between punt returns and KO returns. There is a definable difference. It takes a certain skill and ability. Don’t you think that Scott has been given the chance by now in practice to prove he can do it? I think he has and I’d bet he can’t catch the ball any better than JJ. and JJ was a disaster in preseason. Like I said, try to fix Thomas. It’s the best bet for the team’s continuity and if he get’s fixed that’s the best solution. Again he’s being benched and I think it’s a punitive tactic to correct his failing.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
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"Quinn may have to get him to learn some technique"
That my friend is the funniest thing I have ever read. Quinn Teaching Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Dude is getting paid to coach
Being a Quinn hater myself, I have to wonder wy he is kept around. I refuse to accept that Coughlin is so blind that he would hurt the team by keeping a mediocre coach on the staff. Then Coughlin would have to take responsibility for the past failures of the special teams. I can’t believe that’s the case. So, until Quinn is fired, he has to be considered responsible for managing his players. Thomas is one of his most important player. Coach Quinn—Fix him.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Agreed with this
Thomas hasn’t been bad at all this year. He muffed one while the coaches’ blood pressure was up and is paying the price for it. Personally I hate this move, sure seems like they are moving people just to move them.
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 10, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Lord, these coaches can't win
For more than a year they’re getting bashed as too inflexible and unwilling to adjust.
Now they’re too twitchy.
No wonder they ignore the fan press.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Cant speak for those criticisms
but I assume the inflexibility / adjustment criticisms are scheme related, which I personally try to not comment on. When it comes to personell, I’d say they are pretty consistently “twitchy”. Barden, Cruz, Jacobs, Williams, Ross, Bradshaw (though the fumbling thing was becoming a big issue when it happened to him) now Thomas… those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head who have all been benched pretty hastily.
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 10, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
You'd think it would be easier to find a quality returner,
but that doesn’t appear to be the case at all. Prior to obtaining Ted Ginn, every 49er fan would cringe and hide during punt returns. It wasn’t even people just muffing catches, it was doing stupid stuff like trying to lateral the ball when they were caught by 3-4 tacklers. It’s funny that for a guy with terrible hands like Ginn, he doesn’t drop punts or kickoffs.
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by afrikabamboodle on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions
Bravo Ed...
The kick return job is “up for grabs”. Nice.
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you think that was punny?
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
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perhaps you should
RECEIVE a reward for your pRECEPTION.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
now that it good word play
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way to RETURN the compliment
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, that's a good one, too.
I’ve got nothing…blank stare.
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i really don't see why Thomas is the bad guy now.
Yes he did mess up, and because of it i popped a blood vessel in my left eye, but other than that, he has been doing pretty well. If Eli was benched every time he made a mistake, then he wouldn’t have had a career. Give Thomas more reps at practice on catching the ball. If we go with ware, then we’re going back to the excellent job of special teams we all knew and loved last year.
I get what youre saying
The benching isn’t fair. Eli touches the ball 70 times a game. Thomas 4 to 6. His touches are after an opponent scores. Coughing up there only adds to their momentum
by GMen56-11 on Nov 10, 2011 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I;m with murder
probably a temporary slap on the wrist for Thomas. But I agree completely with the decision. I’ll take 5 yards less every time over a guy who risks a turnover once a game.
Thanks for the dose of reality, though Ed: We are all dreaming of Scott being the next Devin Hester, but frankly he wasn’t all that special in the position … ever.
STILL, I wanna see him try!
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions
I think they see guys in practice enough to make the call
They like to work the rookies in especially in the second half of the year once they’re coached up and show consistency in practice, and that would be especially true after the lockout and no preseason or OTA’s to speak of.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Thomas is screwing up the return recipe...
1) Catch ball first
2) Run your butt off
He has a terrible tendency to look before he catches..big mistake…
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He starts running before he catches the ball
by GMen56-11 on Nov 10, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Remember when Matt Dodge used to see the ball ask start running...away.
Good times…Good times indeed.
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Could be worse, could be Sanchez flinching...

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Nov 10, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
QB's get destroyed by d linemen every sunday
and he’s scared of a corner…. Maybe Revis beats him up after practice
steals his lunch money, lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
ha!
Punk’d ass bitch!
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Does DJ Ware sneak around at night killing people's cats or something?
Seems like every time his name comes up, there is a chorus of “Ware’s a bum” and “He’s had enough chances.”
From what I’ve seen, he hasn’t had very many chances on the field, and when he has had them, he’s played well.
Am I missing something?
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by BleedBigBlue on Nov 10, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think your right..He hasn't had hardly any chances..
I believe Ed wrote last season that he is a slacker in practice..If your a slacker in practice..you get placed on the coaches shit-list..
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I thik it's just one guy commenting
not a chorus though. And think about this- We had a 1,000 yard dude (Ward) go off to Miami and totally bomb out. Is he still playing somewhere? Ware would be fine if the blocking would be fine.
Some dope shot himself in the leg a few years back and opposing defenses started loading 8 in the box, then the members of that super front line quintet got broken and old, and the FO has mostly focused on D linemen to the detriment of the O line. That is D Ware’s problem.
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Ward went to Tampa
But anyway, I get the feeling alot of people here want Ware gone. Not me, he is somwhat useful to this team as a pass blocker, something we have no idea with Scott. We wanted to see Ware take over for Ward in the Earth Wind and Fire combo but it was not so. After that, he got thrown under the bus alot.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Tampa--Duh
He’s with Huston now. Not a lot of production though.
My point is that the front line and the blocking schemes are what make the difference for Giants runners (Tiki was a little different. He only needed cracks, not holes to make a good run) and run blocking is a thing of the past for the Giants
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JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
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‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
I've wanted Ware gone
since we cut Andre Brown for him. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Ware, but there’s nothing right with him either. I’ve seen nothing NUSINK! to suggest that he has any homerun power, any consistency, any burst, any power, anything to make me think that there’s not someone better.
When you go back and visit that catch Ballard made..
He caught the ball first, then got whacked..I thought he was dead..But that is how it works..Catch the damn ball first and worry about what may happen later…
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Question...does Antrel Rolle get fined for wearing those Miami eye black stickers last week?
isin’t that against some NFL law or something?
Goodell can’t possibly pass up this opportunity can he?
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I was wondering the same thing...
I thought TT got fined for having something written on his. May have been somebody else though. Regardless…someone has to pay for this infraction before to tears America apart. The league is becoming a joke.
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Earl Bennett got fined 5,000 for shoes
yet nothing is done about two coaches acting like 10 year olds fighting each other. That right there tells me the NFL rules are a freakin joke.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
probably not the week to talk about coaches and 10 year olds
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
ZING!!!
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by Giantssincesix on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
damn, good point
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I agree...it's a wicked double standard
Question: So, Tom Coughlin vs Jim Harbaugh. Bare knuckles…who is left standing?
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Trick question
cause its a tag team match and TC’s partner is Bomar and well.. we know how thats gonna end.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh...well played.
Remember the last match? Bomar shattered TC’s wrist tagging in…brutal.
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yeah, that was a shame
TC has not been the same since
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
No but they are reviewing his ears..
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I think they have too...
Not that it will be as public, guys get jersey fines all the time…wrong length socks, unapproved shoes, etc.
Did you see Webster on the “Sights and Sounds” this week? I didn’t know he was in charge of gettin the DBs pumped up every game.
Deon Grant getting the whole team pumped up was even more surprising.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 10, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to lace up my cleats and hit someone after that
Cweb obviously leads the secondary. I know Rolle talks a lot but Cweb is practically coaching on the field as much as he’s talking to the Safeties before the snap….and than having to build Ross’ confidence up constantly! lol
he was also very instrumental when KP got hurt, i remember he specifcally gathered up the DBs and had a pow wow at his house after that…KP, TT, Webster, Ross….they (Webster more importantly) made damn sure KP was going to come back from that surgery.
D. Grant is just great to have around…and he’s an all around nice guy too. I met him in Albany and no other giants was as talkative as D. Grant….he was even trying to kick game to my friend who was there. can’t blame him though, she’s cute. but he’s a cool guy.
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would rather thomas stay
I think he’s still a good return guy and unless he’s consistently muffing kicks the return average speaks for itself. Scott should probably just work on his blocking
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by Rorschach44 on Nov 10, 2011 1:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
some players respond well
to a benching. They didn’t cut Thomas, they just told him he has got to do better, and they are giving someone else a shot this week. If someone grabs the proverbial bull by it’s horns this week on returns, then great. Otherwise, I think we see Thomas back there again before too long.
by jph92 on Nov 10, 2011 2:20 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Kind of out of the blue...
I know Barden only contributed minimally but the catch he made that Arrington could have intercepted was an amazing catch. Really quick reaction to a poorly thrown ball and a strong catch. I’ve never paid too much attention to Barden’s physicality. I seem to remember thinking that he’s tall but kind of thin but he looks like he has gained some muscle. He just looks stronger…if you know what I’m trying to say. He looks like he could really breakout and surprise many critics.
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Thats a reason why Eli talked about him so much in the offseason
Throw him a pass that looks like it should be picked off… but Barden is a big, physical force that will take the ball out of the air. I have a feeling he could be a big threat.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 10, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
"Dream Receiving Corps?"
Eli throwing to Nicks, MM, Cruz, Barden, Ballard and if nobody open, scrambling and sliding like he did in 4th qtr last Sunday. But OLine’s gotta do its job.
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Dont forget that our RBs can catch ball for TD too
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Yes he's going to be a difference down the stretch..no doubt..
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He is huge, not spindly, he isn’t super fast. (4.6?)
He made some very nice catches gainst the Pats, not 3 yd outs. The Pharoah is rising.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by trueblue63 on Nov 10, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On Barden, Can't nobody, Don't nobody.
Can’t nobody deny his talent/skills.
Don’t nobody knows how good can he be.
Thomas
Has been a major improvement over last year. I’m surprised by this move, and could understand if it were mainly an effort to get Scott more touches. I just don’t think Thomas has been so bad he deserves benching. You got to admire that he took it like a man though.
just hope
whoever they use can catch and hang onto the ball.
Other than that I’m still of the opinion that their blocking scheme is as much of the issue as the person running the ball back.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Either keep Thomas there or put Da'rel Scott back there!
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They Finally called up Baby Jesus
Personally I think there is nothing wrong with the switch
Let’s see if someone else can step and maybe get us some good field position.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Thought D Thomas did a nice job
With JJ out he should return. Not watching practices so do not know about muff issues.

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