State of the Union - Here We Go Edition.
"RESPECT ALL. FEAR NONE."
- Tom Coughlin.
The Giants are 5-2. Doesn't matter how we got there, we're there. We join the company of the Detroit Lions, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Baltimore Ravens, and whoever else has only 2 losses.
Crazy, right? I thought we were supposed to lie down at whatever superior forces are thrown at us. We were supposed to be in the basement after our failure of a GM didn't do anything in free agency. We lost so many key pieces, its a miracle that we're even 0.500, let alone above it. And didn't you know it, the Eagles should have ground us to dust and stomped us out.
I've heard the absolute gamut of reasoning as to why we are 5-2, and they are all excuses. I don't care. A win is a win is a win. If we struggle, so be it. We can look at it as a deficit in talent (which I VEHEMENTLY disagree with considering we went 10-6 last season; should have been 11-5), or look at it as a learning point. A way to focus on our inconsistencies and fix them.
We have not beaten a single team convincingly this season. That's a cause for concern, sure. But what it does is keep the pressure to get better on full blast. It gives the Giants something to work on, a point to keep focused. For the entire season, people have been making excuses for the Giants. Some of my favorites:
*Not a good team at all, they still have all those injuries in the secondary and it'll catch up to them.
*Their run defense sucks so bad. So does their rushing game and OL.
*The referees gifted them the Cardinals game and the Dolphins game.
*They've faced such a soft schedule thus far. They have a "gauntlet of high-powered teams" left.
*We've seen this before. They are just a tease and will collapse again. Eli Manning can't sustain this type of play.
Do you know what I have to say to this? Fear mongering.
And I absolutely refuse to be swayed.
I was told at the beginning of this year, in absolute terms, that the Giants were going to finish last. We didn't have the talent to compete with the rest of the vaunted NFC East.
Philadelphia, with all their shiny toys, is the most talented team in the league. Dallas, with Tony Romo and a healthy Jason Witten, Miles Austin, and Dez Bryant could not be stopped. Washington had a tremendous defense, with a ferocious pass rush that would eat us alive.
All we could do is respect the other team (OK, maybe not Washington, but they definitely earned mine after week 1). What we can ill afford to do, fans or team, is fear anyone else. We are not without our flaws, but we make adjustment and move on.
We were thought to be an extremely porous secondary, and for the first two games, that was indeed the case. However, we started to make adjustments, tried new formations, dialed up the pass rush. Now? We rank 13th. A mere 12 yards/game separates us from the top 10. Eli Manning wasn't supposed to be good. He made adjustments from last year, and we are now 4th in passing offense and 6th in interceptions.
A continuing problem in the past for us has been turnovers and red zone offense. We are the only NFC East team with a positive turnover differential, with a +5. We also happen to be top 5 in red zone efficiency.
Our special teams was a point of emphasis. We were beyond pathetic last year. We are now decidedly average, with Steve Weatherford having a great year....a massive boost from years past.
Our run defense and our offensive line might be in trouble. I have no doubt we make adjustments and get those two aspects going.
Right after the Rams game, I created a fanpost entitled "Keep Pushing" and my main point was that the biggest strength of the team was its resiliency. We may suck for the entire game, but its the final score that counts. I was listening to ESPN Radio, and one commentator (can't remember who) said:
Do not count out the New York Giants. They seem outmatched every game, but somehow pull together almost every time. That comes from the locker room. A team can have all the talent in the world, but if you have no backbone, you aren't going to win. It remains to be seen if the Giants have that talent, but they sure do have backbone.
We cannot allow ourselves to get caught up on who our opponents are. Faced with questions about the schedule, I heard Victor Cruz, Eli Manning, and Justin Tuck all say the same thing: One opponent at a time. They said there was no quit in this team, and while the upcoming schedule might be hard, it certainly also will be difficult for opposing teams to face us.
Respect all and fear none.
Lets take a look at our next opponents, and why exactly I don't fear any of them.
New England: We have all sorts of stats that favor the Patriots. Undefeated at home since 1492 or whatever. Never have more than two losses in a row since forever. I think out of all the remaining teams left on the schedule, the Giants match up against the Patriots the best. The biggest weakness of the Patriots is the secondary. On top of that, they aren't a great pass rushing team, which means they'll have to blitz. Eli Manning, according to PFF and my own eyes, is the best QB in the NFL against the blitz. He has a chance to carve them up.
Tom Brady can only be stopped in one way...if he's under pressure. I don't think I need to explain this one.
San Francisco: Their defense is something to behold, and Justin Smith is an absolute monster. Not to mention perhaps one of the best 3-4 LB crews in the NFL in Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis, and Navorro Bowman. They have a slow offense though, paced mostly by Alex Smith's efficiency and Frank Gore. Shut down Gore, and I'd like to see Smith win it. I'm not sold on the 49ers just yet, but we are good at forcing mistakes (apparently other teams' mistakes are the only way we win anyway) so I have a good feeling about this one.
Philadelphia: Easy one to explain. We already beat them before. But wait, you say....they had not "gelled" yet as a team. Gelling has nothing to do with missed tackles and turnovers. Sure their offensive lines may be more comfortable now, but they did not see a fully healthy lineup of Jason Pierre-Paul, Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, and Mathias Kiwanuka. They were impressive, no doubt, against the Cowboys. The Saints were impressive agains the Colts, too. Look at what happened to them against St. Louis. You are never as good as your best win, nor are you as bad as your worst loss. Out of all the teams left, we know this Eagles team the best, and the last few contests have been extremely close. I respect the hell out of the Eagles, and they could very well beat us. They don't scare me, though. Especially since we've beaten them before.
New Orleans: I have a feeling the team hasn't forgotten the ass-whooping they got from the Saints a few years ago. Drew Brees has been erratic, and can be forced into making mistakes. Their secondary isn't special either. This is much like the Patriots matchup.
Green Bay: So I guess they are the unstoppable team. We've fared kinda well against "unstoppable" teams in the past. A recurring theme with these dominant offensive teams....their secondary minus Charles Woodson isn't great. If we continue to play turnover free football, we have a chance. Also, Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers only if you give him time to be. Come at him like a pack of wild dogs and we'll see what happens.
Dallas Cowboys: Demarcus Ware is nasty, and I don't know if we have a chance to stop him, but the rest of the defense can be exposed. Tony Romo is literally a rollercoaster, and we may not have to beat him because he can beat himself. Regardless, as a division foe, both games will be hard fought, but we've had their number lately when Romo is the quarterback.
Washington Redskins: We were embarrassed by them. The team will be out for blood as a more cohesive unit. I look forward to it. They still have a solid defense, but I no longer am sold on that offense.
No, I'm not that we are better than any or all these teams. Nor am I saying that we win all these games. I am merely saying that we have the talent and resiliency to do so. Having come back from deficits so many times, from having the type of coach that Tom Coughlin is, to dealing with the insane amount of injuries that we have had to deal with, we are the team best equipped to handle adversity in this league. No, we should not fear this schedule.
I know there's a lot of people that start off with saying "Realistically...." and than (depending on whether you are a fan or not) going on about tempering expectations or laughing, let me ask you a question:
"What the hell do you know about being 'realistic'?"
Every single team on the Giants schedule sans the Packers has had a bad loss. Every team has its flaws. If you go in with the mentality that this team is showing right now, buying into the idea of "finish. Finish. FINISH"....having the mentality that the coach is having: "We will not give up. We cannot give up"....if we continue to have that swagger to not fear our opponents....well, that would give us a team. Anything can and will happen, and if we keep pushing, as we've said so many times over, we have a chance.
We are a team in the truest sense of the word and one capable of crushing anybody. Eli Manning has the ability to do it. Our secondary can do it. Our defensive line is certainly hungry enough, as is our young WR corp. Our OL is nothing if not prideful, our running backs are literally angry.
So open up that nice big can of hate. C'mon Philly fans. Dallas fans. Redskins and Jets fans. C'mon Skip Bayless, Mark Clayton, Dan Graziano, any so-called "expert." Go ahead and tell us we can't do it.
We ain't scared.
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"always we need is a chance"
Just want to throw my option about our D really quick. I know they are giving up a ton of yards, and it drives me insane watching it happen……But they have also come up with Big Plays in almost every game when we need them to. Picks, sacks, stops ect.
by hit_hard on Nov 1, 2011 10:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Most definitely. Got to hit them hard and make big plays when it counts...
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
I'm pumped up
I just really want to shut up all the pundits and fans of other teams that are calling the Giants frauds.
definitely. Nobody really cares for us, but I think that's what fuels us....
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot of tough teams
also lot of teams that’d I’d much quicker call frauds before the Giants, like the Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, Jets, Patriots and Niners.
Only game I see as a true test where the Giants are clearly the underdog is the Packers game. Maybe the Saints game cuz its in their cushy dome but there’s clearly a blueprint of rushing the hell out of Brees. Those two games I’d be surprised if the Giants pull them out. The rest? I’m 100% expecting a W.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
he's our resident "special" kid
Pats are rightfully heavy favorites. Just saying, ya gotta play the games! We could win.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 2, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Out of the next three games
I like our chance for a win in NE the best.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
of course the line will have them as dogs against NE
but I see no reason they’re not at least equal to that team.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Agreed.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
300
Faced against the toughest schedule in the NFL… there is no way we can win!
Sounds like 300.
Eli = Leonidas?!?
Okay maybe not… Interception machine is better.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
Interception Macheonidas
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 2, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love it! Its a keeper.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
by Giantssincesix on Nov 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
very nice
In my best Borat voice
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
haha awesome
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Good points, all
The thing that hurt a lot of teams with the long non-offseason is that free agents came at the last minute. That is a recipe for digging yourself a hole early and then hoping the team comes together and you can climb out. Jerry Reese understood this. Sure, we have more rookies than one would expect but that is also partly due to injuries and these guys will be around for awhile. We have our share of playmakers on both sides of the ball— let ‘em go play and we’ll be fine.
BBI
First of all Rec’d, as always. Great work, you never fail to contribute great things to this community, and since you changed your name from whatever that website was before, you’ve been one of the consistently best posters on here.
Second of all, regarding this post, I couldn’t agree more. Last year…I was a different man. I was all about confidence, and talking about this being a Super Bowl team in week 8. I was all about getting respect, and getting pissed off that we weren’t considered the best team in the NFC East when we were winning games early and often.
This year, I could give two shits. In fact, not only have I been running around the internets telling everyone who will listen that the Eagles are still the team to beat in the division, I’ve been trying my damnedest to convince myself of it. We are a great football team…when we’re focused. For some reason I DON’T KNOW WHY, but for some god damn reason we have to be the underdog. We can’t be the team to beat. This team has to have hate in order to be successful. We saw it last year, we saw it against Seattle, we almost saw it against Miami, and I’m sure we’ll see it again.
This is why since day one I’ve adopted the moniker “Win Ugly”. I don’t care how we win, in fact, much like you said the other day…I couldn’t be happier than wins like the ones we’ve gotten over Miami, Arizona, Philadelphia, and Buffalo. Non-convincing, fourth quarter wins.
So many people think football has ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING other than winning. It doesn’t, it never has, and it never will. That’s why I’ve never lost faith in Eli, and that’s why I continue to have faith in Coughlin. They are winners. We can have the ugliest stats, no running game, no running defense, 30 interceptions, no linebackers, etc etc etc…but as long as we get that W at the end of the day…that’s all that matters.
We’re 5-2. 5-2 ain’t shit. The Eagles look damn good, and regardless of what you wrote up their as it stands today we have no shot against the Packers…they’re the greatest team I’ve ever seen. But if we can play the Patriots hard, keep the game close until the fourth quarter, and give Eli a shot to win it…well…I like our chances at 6-2.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 2, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
what if
we knock rogers out of the game in the first quarter?
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 2, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Then we're fucked.
You see what Whitehurst/Moore did to us?
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 2, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you forgot
to put on your internet sock puppet, “Zillag”
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 2, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck that font
Football gods can’t know when I’m being serious and when I’m not.
Eagles are the team to beat.
We have proved nothing.
Continue to win ugly.
That is all.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BBI is a reincarnation of another poster from the past?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea man
I forget what the website was called…but his original log in name was that
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 2, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
haha this is my first blog that I've been posting to.
Though it’d be really cool if there was a BigBlueIntervention before me. Always thought I was speshul tho.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
GB has the second worst pass D in the league.
Right behind the Pats. Just thought I would point that out.
Not saying we are better or will beat them. But it is not who you play, but when…. you know the rest.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
They are head and shoulders above everyone right now
And it has nothing to do with their pass defense.
Not saying there unbeatable, just saying they’re the closest to it.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True. And they are a talented, well coached team.
But the pass rush has been affected by Jenkins departure, and the loss of Nick Collins at safety has been just shy of devastating to the secondary from what I have gathered.
But when your offense is being run by the best QB in the world, and the receivers are as good as any in the league, well, to this point it doesn’t matter about the defense.
Make no mistake, they too have their problems. Mostly on pass defense. They have tried bringing an extra man or two in the form of a corner or safety blitz only to be beaten on the outside. They have brought an inside backer or two to try and get pressure up the middle and have been vulnerable in the middle of the field.
Somebody is going to beat them. I haven’t looked at how we match up with them with any detail because they haven’t been our opponent of the week yet, but I do keep an eye on the SB champs and they can be had.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
thanks tito. I agree completely with what you said.
If we ever blow a team out, we end up becoming way too arrogant and then end up faltering. winning ugly, with obvious weaknesses is the ONLY way this team stays focused.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I also look at it as a sure way to win games
Winning ugly makes this team better and confident. They go out with faith in each other and deliver us the victory. it is also good for their mentality that they can be in any game and win it.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
yeaaaaaaaaap
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been giving
alot of thought to the teams psyche this week. Things have not changed much since 2007 in this regard. The Giants are just not great front runners.
2008 they were, because that was just a dominant team that bludgeoned people. But in general they don’t play their best ball when people are singing their praises.
Like in 2007. After that blowout of SF in late Oct. the team had to scratch and claw for every victory, getting doubted and criticized every step of the way, and they ended up winning the whole damn shootin’ match.
It’s weird, but I ain’t gonna fight it. I love it. Win ugly.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
Awesome post
At school right now so I’ll make more comments later, but have you ever thought about becoming a motivational speaker?
haha thanks man....and definitely not a motivational speaker....just a passionate Giants fan.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Resiliency
Greatest Giant video ever! Nicely said on all your points. Rec’d
PS – you said all you needed about the Jets… lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 2, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
haha I knew y'all would get a kick out of the Jets one.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I just yelled at my coworker for being a Cowboys fan after reading this
Thank you. Great post.
by mtcl05 on Nov 2, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
keep yelling until they convert! All bandwagoners anyway haha kiddin
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I needed something like this
it’s the great fanposts that make this site truly what it is.
Rec’d the EFF up
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
thanks mate
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice BBI, rec'd
Some good info in there, not just motivational speech.
All we have seen from this team is what did not see last year. This team is closing out games with fury. The Giants have owned the fourth quarter outscoring opponents 60-41. And half of those 41 given up came in one game. Giants gave up 20 in the Seahawks game. Since then we are 2-0 with 2 more Eli Manning-led comeback victories. They are finishing. Now it is going to come down to finishing the season.
Lead us Eli…
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
yeap, many people make such a big deal out of the Eagles finishing their season strong after starting weak
so why when we start games off weak and comeback to win in the end any less praiseworthy?
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
New York Jets: Mark Sanchez
The best part of the entire post.
by The Blood of Eli on Nov 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
ha!
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
another great post. & I love the “Respect All : Fear None” moinker. Honestly, I dont even fear the Packers. Thats a game we could win. We can win ALL of the remaining games & I have the confidence that more often than not, we will. U said it, this team is resilient and has a mental toughness we have not seen in the past. I’m loving it.
And for the record, we’ll find a way to make the run game relevant again very soon. It may not look that way right now, but its not like they forgot how to run block. They just havent been giving the greatest of efforts. TC said in the postgame presser. “We engaged with guys, but for some reason or another, just didnt finish the block., At some point, pride has to kick in with those guys” (paraphrased cause Im too lazy to look it up). That will change & AB/BJ will be a force very soon. Especially when teams stop living in denial & start respecting Eli more.
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Teams are living in denial about Eli
Best part of your post. ;-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
yup
defenses r still stacking the box with 8 & even 9 defenders. If they keep doing that, Eli’s gonna keep burning them. But as soon as they start to back off, is when the run game will be a dominant force again
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
That sounds great. I'll have one of those, please.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
And I'll have what he's having.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
ESPN = Everyone Spewing Putrid Nonsense
but then again, lots of commetners want the Giants to run a lot more blitzes
so what makes them think the better QB’s in the league won’t take advantage of that the way Eli does?
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
I hope teams stay in denial about Eli, mate.
And that “Respect All, Fear none” bit definitely struck a chord with me.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
id like to see the run game start working
but im not opposed to them forcing Eli to throw. I think teams feel more comfortable in making him throw due to last season. Theyre figuring that if its in his hands, he’s likely to make a mistake & turn it over. And that just hasnt been the case this season. Eventually someone is gonna realize this & start dropping 8 & when they do, its Bradshaw time.
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
LMAO
New England: We have all sorts of stats that favor the Patriots. Undefeated at home since 1492 or whatever
first i read that and just continued and then was like “wait a second, what ????” LOL thats funny
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
North Indian
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
many thanks
as lame as it sounds, just speak from the heart and it comes out ok haha.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
many thanks
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome post
I feel as if the Giants will be 11-5 or 10-6. The difference will be whether the Giants get their business done in NE this weekend.
Thank you for everything Jorgie!
I have been saying this that this is a 11-5 team
Prove me right now my favorite sports team.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
yup
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys,
but if the Giants don’t get better as a team, 2011 could look alot like 2010. In other words, we could fall just short of the playoffs. A few areas that we needed to get better at, we have, some areas have gotten worse.
Biggest problems from last year:
Turnovers. That has been cleaned up BIG TIME. And it needs to stay that way if we are to win the division or be a Wildcard.
Finishing games. The Eli led offense has 4 come from behind fourth quarter victories. The defense has only given up 41 points in the fourth quarter all year. I don’t have any stats, but I think the defense has 4 INT’s on opponents final drives. And a bunch of sacks.
Big play vulnerability. Eh, I will call it feast or famine this year. There have been too many big plays given up in both the run game and pass game, but not too many in crunch time.
Special Teams. They have gone from game changing, meaning they will lose us games, to good. Weatherford has officially taken the fear away from the punt game for me. It took until the Seattle game before I finally realized Dodge wasn’t back there. FG’s, however, is the new area of fear with all the blocks.
That’s the good. The bad, we all know what they are.
Run blocking/run game. When the weather gets bad, I don’t think Eli will be able to continue to have the type of performances he is having week in and week outt. If the run game doesn’t improve it will spell trouble for us, no doubt about it.
Run stopping. Again, if this doesn’t improve, and teams can run on us in Dec and Jan, 2011 will not end well. The silver lining (I suppose) is that the teams we play late in the year are not great running teams. At least not at this point. Dallas’ running game does not worry me. Nor does GB’s, the Jets, or Washington’s.
Secondary. We all seem to agree that we want Rolle back, and a solid somebody to play the slot. Our secondary has been good, but we have not faced anywhere near the type of passing attacks that are on the horizon. Another big challenge here.
All in all, while there are many positives, this team has a long way to go if it is to be a division champ and a SB contender. They have to get better.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
There are always going to be negatives. But we need to find negatives in order to play better. That's just how it is with this team.
So weird. But yeah.
And by no means are we a playoff team right now the way we’re playing. I’ll come out and say it. But we’ve shown that we can be, and all we need is a chance. If given the opportunity, Eli can be the one to lead us there. But we have to stay focused. That’s the key.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a playoff team now.
MAYBE not good enough, but I would say damn close, mostly because of Eli and our fourth Quarter D.
But hey, the Giants are not the team today that they will be in a month. And the Giants will certainly be a different team on the first of Jan. Question is, which way do they go?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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Once you see Prince fully acclimated....
Along with a finally healthy lineup of Tuck, Osi, JPP, Kiwi, Tolly….I don’t see how you can beat that. There isn’t much of a chance. Not to mention Rocky, Canty, Linval. That is one hell of a DL. Plus we get Jimmy Kennedy back soon.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 2, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What running game?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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I know
I mean we have to have a Giants type running game that is lacking this year.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
That is an awesome lineup.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
Ive stated this before
if you believe (which seems to be case ) that he Giants play up and down to
their competition, then by theory the Giants have the league where they wont them.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Now here is some insightful wisdom!
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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to me the biggest thing this team needs to do
Is come out of the locker room as if we are already down two scores.
Is it just me or does anyone else find themselves saying where was that in the first half alot while watching the 4th quarter. It seems like they almost need to have no more room for error before they start to play up to their potential.
If they come out flat and get behind any of these teams on the second half of the schedule, then I think the road to the playoffs will be closed at the onramp.
But if they can come out of that locker romm fired up and every bit as aggressive as they seem to be in the 4th quarter this year then they got a chance. “so yer sayin there’s a chance.”
Oh and Fewell needs to understand the the game allows him to send more than 4 people after the QB on any given down.
You down wit JPP?
Yes, I too
wonder where the intensity is at times early in games.
And so do the players themselves. A couple of them have come right out and said it.
It will bite us in the ass if it continues, but I would HOPE against the better teams that urgency will be there from the opening kickoff.
And on Fewell, maybe his passiveness early in the game with his calls contributes to the flatness of the defense.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
They adjust as the game goes on
We shoot/burn/throw off blimp our OC and DC in here but they are doing well adjusting in the 2nd half. Now if the OL can make those damn very much needed holes grrrr.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
i say that all the time
it seems that we dont score until the other team does first. I think some of that is due to the home crowd energy. I know it seems silly but players in every sport feed off the crowd & our crowd just doesnt start out excited JT commented that when the crowd got going in the 4th qtr, he forgot all about the pain he was feeling. If that energy was there sooner, maybe we would start off faster. Conversely many players talked about “sleep walking” thru the 1st half last week so ur not grasping at straws on this.
It may have something to do with why we play better on the road also. But we have 5 away games left (4 if u eliminate the jest game) but their crowd is pretty good so maybe we’ll feed off that.
The other good news is that we dont play another 1:00 home game till week 15 vs the Skins. Usually the later the game is played, the better the home crowd seems to be.
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
The crowd is a big part of the Giants intensity. Or lack of it.
I hate knowing we are, to a degree, a detriment to their ability to win.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
This is awesome...
I gotta say thanks to you, BBI.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I love the media take on this...
If you see it in week 9 predictions, the Giants are going to lose to the Pats because they have “a tough road ahead”. No real analysis. No comment of how Brady/Belichick rarely lose back-to-back games, or at home, for that matter.
It’s funny. I think a short trip up the road to Foxboro isn’t so bad for the Giants, given that they are used to playing in the Meadowlands anyhow (Eastern Mass isn’t so much colder than Jersey).
The Colts went 14-0 a couple years ago, and they rarely won pretty. Most of their games were come from behind. I guess you could say that, like how Peyton did it (and always has), our opponents this year just get Manning’d hard. And it’s not pretty.
I couldn't agree more, definitely Rec'd
Tom Couglin’s mantra has been “Finish” and that’s what the team has been doing. Also we play better as the underdog—we always have and probably always will—so the tough schedule doesn’t scare me either.
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