New York Giants News And Notes: Justin Tuck, Justin Tryon, Eli Manning And More
by Ed Valentine on Nov 1, 2011 7:31 AM EDT
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PrintGood morning, New York Giants fans. Here are your Tuesday morning news and notes.
Justin Tuck contributed to Sunday's victory by helping Mathias Kiwanuka with a key sack late in the fourth quarter. Coming back from neck and groin injuries Tuck was surprised to still be in the game.
"Honestly, I didn't think I was going to make it through the game. There's some things that I wish were feeling better than what they do, but like I said, I made it through the football game and we're just going to go forward coming up this week," Tuck said. "Honestly, the energy from the crowd there in the fourth quarter helped a lot. You kind of forget about some stuff. And then when the adrenaline comes down, I'm sitting there talking to you guys at the podium, ‘I kind of regret some of the decisions that I made during the game.' "
Giants place Justin Tryon on injured reserve, Hakeem Nicks gets good news on hamstring | New York Daily News
Cornerback Justin Tryon was placed on injured reserve Monday due to his broken arm. Tryon tweeted that he really hoped to avoid IR, and even shared an X-Ray of his broken wrist. It's pretty clear how badly it was broken.
You have to love Tryon's attitude, and wish him well. Drop by his Twitter page, @JTryon30, to send him a note of appreciation.
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60 Minutes on CBS News: All-American: Cancer survivor joins NFL - Beating the odds in a fight against a deadly cancer for most people would mean staying alive. For Mark Herzlich, who was diagnosed with bone cancer while he was a football star at Boston College, living meant playing football in the NFL. Byron Pitts reports.
NFL Videos: Dressing up the rookies
Giants players hit up Party City to have some Halloween fun and find some memorable costumes for their rookies. The video is absolutely hilarious. Halloween was Monday, of course. This is still worth a look, though.
Eli Manning belongs in the MVP debate - NFC East Blog - ESPN
The Giants are 5-2 despite quite a number of flaws from which Manning's play has managed to save them. Many of the traditional elements on which the Giants have long been able to rely are failing them this season. They are a terrible running team, their 85.6 rush yards per game ranking ahead of only Seattle and Tennessee. They are poor at stopping the run, as only four teams -- Carolina, Detroit, Indianapolis and St. Louis -- have allowed more yards per game on the ground. They have scored only 10 more points this season than they have allowed, which makes the 5-2 record almost impossible. There are 13 teams in the league with better point differentials, and each of the other 10 teams that has at least five wins has a point differential of +40 or better.
Yet the Giants sit at 5-2 and comfortably in first place in the NFC East. What have they done that's legitimately exceptional? At what position or positions do they excel, week in and week out, at a level beyond that of their opponents? I can come up with two -- defensive line, where their deep rotation of pass-rushers makes the lives of quarterbacks miserable, and quarterback, where Manning is winning games by himself on offense. The offensive line has been awful and the run game absent.
What I find really amusing about this ESPN piece is that it was posted the same day I came out and said the same thing.
Giants' Eli Manning gets support from wide receivers over Tom Brady comments | NJ.com
"I understand the rivalry, I understand Eli and seeing how he performed. That last drive to win the game was just phenomenal, man," the Giants’ wide receiver said Monday, as the Giants began moving past the victory over the Miami Dolphins and toward Sunday’s matchup with the New England Patriots. "That’s part of his confidence and his demeanor, why he’s so good and why he’s a Super Bowl-winning quarterback.
"That’s always in the back of my mind. I never get flustered, I understand he’s been in this tough spot before, he’s been in these tough situations and he’ll pull through."
This comment from Cruz not only shows support for Manning, it shows how he leads this team he impacts the way the offense goes about its business.
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Sucks about Tryon.
He played well. Had a nice play in the secondary, breaking up a pass, and that very nice special teams play. He looked like he was getting better in this defense and becoming a solid Nickel guy, at least until Prince is ready to see the field. Feel bad for him, I hope he’s invited to camp next season at the very least.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions
Agreed
Tryon made me feel more comfortable about our secondary. I’m still not convinced Prince will be a factor this season. The lockout and broken foot has pushed his development back. I’m worried again.
I hope Tryon is invited to camp next year, but it will be tough competition depending who comes back with Webster, TT, Ross, and Prince.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
by Giantssincesix on Nov 1, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Good problem to have though.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty cool to hear Cruz talk about Eli and the Super Bowl win over the Patriots like he is a fan of Eli...
Sounds like something I read at BBV almost every day.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Oh, and Ed,
Eli isn't a leader. lol.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 7:56 AM EDT reply actions
The real question is...
…does anyone feel bad for Phillip Rivers?
I didn’t think so
Rivers,
leading the league in INTs AND most embarrassing, inexcusable plays resulting in a loss know to man kind, this year.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
not only leading the league in interceptions
but ALL turnovers
phillip > eli
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
After Dielman incident
they deserve to lose.
It is what it is
I love it
I never thought Rivers was elite, the guy is good but makes huge mistakes in big games and talks too much you can keep him!
The more I hear about/from
Tryon the more I like him. I for one hope his back next season. Get well soon Justin your intensity and heart will be missed.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
True gamer!
He’ll be back next year! He has TC’s loyalty now!
by oldschoolblue64 on Nov 1, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
that video is pretty funny
the best part is Tynes at the end dressed as the Reno 911 cop.
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Eli is an Elite QB
Eli is playing lights out football this season because he isn’t trying to do too much when it isn’t there. He’s not forcing the ball into coverage, he’s utilizing different snap counts, pump fakes, and looking stellar off the play action. He’s finally got a lot of confidence in himself and his receivers, mainly Nicks, Cruz, and Ballard. Whenever Manningham learns how to hold on to the damn ball he might even have a little bit more confidence in him. Eli will make the Pro Bowl this year hands down
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 1, 2011 8:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
why does Manningham's ability to hold onto the ball come into question when Nicks had 2 big dropsas did Ballard?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yean I don't get the MM holding onto the ball comment..that's nuts
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
because
he seems to do it at least once a game where as the other guys don’t. It may not be factual, but sometimes perception tends to become reality.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I guess 82 looks like 88...I dunno
while I think Nicks is one of the best WRs in the NFL, he’s the one that’s dropped the passes lately.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
that's my point
it may be true, but it’s not the perception. I remember manningham dropping that deep ball a week ago for a TD and another this week. Nicks has dropped a few as well, maybe more, but we forget about it because he makes up for it with a ton of catches and a TD and usually a great catch or two in there.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
2 games in a row MM has dropped potential TD passes
I think you guys have selective memory when it comes to players y’all like. It is well known that this guys’ hands aren’t reliable and I know that those other guys had a few drops yesterday but they catch it when it counts. That’s why they all have more TDs than he’s got. That TD was his first of the season because he dropped the other three
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Nov 1, 2011 8:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that was a few weeks ago, Ham didn't drop anything on Sunday (talk about selective memory)
and no, its not well know Manningham’s hands aren’t reliable. Its simply not true.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
he dropped a TD pass
that hit him right in the chest on Sunday.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Receivers are going to catch every pass that comes their..
And I’m talking about every receiver in the NFL..and yeah sometimes the drops cost first downs or worse TDs..but it happens all over the league..mostly a split-second loss of focus on the ball for a variety of reasons.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*excuse me I meant not going..
If I keep typing like this I’m going to hit my fingers with a hammer…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
MM dropped a pass that hit him in the chest on Sunday. It would have been a TD.
Selective memory?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I knew she'd be in for that one
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Paulie, I MUST BE DREAMING.
::rubs eyes in disbelief::
Welcome to the true side, my friend.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 1, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Lulz x2
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Don't talk about other Wrs that have as many, or more drops.
Just Manningham and his what, 2? Waste of breathe really.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not on Sunday but Ham
does drop them and bobble the ball from time to time. Week 2 he had an easy TD but he bobbled it up in the air, fell and knocked himself out. Also Paulie did not say it but it does seem like it takes a longer time for Manninghim and Eli to be on the same page, I mean they struggeld thsi year to get it together. Maybe Sunday was not the day to pick on HAM but he’s had his moments of not being the most reliable guy. Hopefully they’re working through it.
Also did’nt Manningham drop a TD pass on Sunday, maybe not as blatent as NIck’s and Ballard’s drop but a ball he should of went after.
I guess that's it
and also PK actually saying something good about Eli threw me off. Picking on Manningham Sunday for a drop that didn’t matter is asinine when other guys dropped plenty
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
WOW!
good to see u finally coming over to the dark side with the rest of us Eli supporters.
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Dammit man...
Guess Eli’s gonna have to have a real stinker against the Pats so you can get back on the right side of the fence.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 1, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
he was put on IR
he cannot come back this season
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
yup
all the more reason we need to see what we got in Prince. I hope he’s active on Sunday
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
It's like making a deal with the devil
People have wanted to get Prince in the games. But at this cost? We overlooked another injury to DBs.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
Yes it does...
When I saw that x-ray I can’t believe he kept playing..I still cringe when I think about it..It’s a shame they IR’d that guy, he is an inspiration for the team..Hell the Colts haven’t IR’d Peyton even though they have stated he won’t play a game this season..He’s on the roster for other reasons..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Man! that's really bad...
And to think he kept on playing like that… real true blue! Like someone said: See you in Sept ’12
Holy toledo Batman,
He broke that bone clean in 2 pieces, they are next to each other. Wow.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that we're 5-2 thanks to Eli and our recievers..
and our pass rush, but we have serious issues that we all know about on both sides of the ball..You can only drive a car on 3 cylinders so many miles before the engine breaks down…They need to figure out how to fix these things or the next 9 games are going to be miserable…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
if they do fix those things
they’ll be the only team in the league running on all cylinders. That’s the beauty of the NFL. Every team has similar problems at different positions on they’re team. Pats have 0 defense and little run game; Packers give up a ton of points to everyone; and the saints are turnover prone. no one is running on all cylinders. So they’re just as likely to break down as well.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Eli
has always played a big part in why we are so successful. Its just our current weaknesses are so glaring we are seeing Eli in a better light.
Eli is still Eli. He isn’t playing at another level. He is definitely making less mistakes but he is always been this good.
The Eli haters are happy now because they think he is at another level, but if things go downhill they are going to turn on him and blame our team woes on him.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
+1
Eli still Eli. Less mistakes wasn’t something that he wasn’t capable of either as he showed in 2008. Now he’s just combining 2008 decision making with 2009-10 air it out abilities. I have no problem blaming that on not having Plaxico and Shockey being annoying in the huddle.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
"Now he’s just combining 2008 decision making with 2009-10 air it out abilities"
Hence another level, a higher level. That only guys like his brother and Brady have been at consitantly.
Your words, saying the same thing us “Eli haters” have been waiting for.
eh...he's the same dude.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'd be more likely to blame them on
a subpar O-line and secondary.
It is what it is
Was watching Pitt/Pats game last night...
And I really think that we have the players to emulate what Pitt did defensively in that game. I guess it’s all on PF and his vanilla scheme.
Also, would love to see Sash get more playing time…I am sick of Grant.
Pitt was able to do what they did because
they had good cornerbacks in there.
It is what it is
We need to man it up against the Pats receivers.
And pressure the qb. Time to dial up the pressure Perry!
"pressure" to fewell...
Is a 4 man rush. As opposed to a 3 man rush
TeamJPP
by andiamo708 on Nov 1, 2011 9:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
4-man rushes tend to work best on Brady.
It is what it is
The Steelers were able to do that to the Patriots
Because they studied our 2007 game films…Hopefully our guys have dusted those tapes off and are scrutinizing them deeply..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
2007 vs Pats.
Pitt vs Pats …2007 is exactly what Spags did to the Saints on Sunday also, two very impressive defensive display at its best!
Again IS ALL on Radio now.
I wouldnt confuse Pitts corners with being overly "good"
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Disagree
I think the problem the Giants D has been having is mostly because Fewell’s scheme are anti-vanilla. They tend to be a little too complicated at times and the players get confused.
If you see WRs running free through the secondary (which we have on occasion) it’s usually due to one of two things: 1) Either a player made a mistake or, 2) The coverage scheme was too complex and caused the players to make a mistake.
Since most of the Giants secondary are grizzled veterans you could extrapolate that the root cause of these errors is probably due more often to #2 than it is to #1.
NE knows the Giants will try to emulate what the Steelers did..
they will make adjustments.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Eli is "Manning"
I think it should be pointed out that Eli is not only having the best seasons of his career. He’s doing so after the most criticized season of his career and and no camp.
This shows the character, leadership, work ethic, and winning attitude Eli has always had from day one. That’s why we drafted him. It just took running game and Defense to fall apart before people started to notice.
by hit_hard on Nov 1, 2011 8:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Look at Tuck
giving the much maligned crowd a kudos. Tuck said the D couldn’t hear Boley making calls. He also stated the D needs to start faster so we get involved earlier. People will come jump down my throat saying the old stadium was louder (which I frequented) but I thought the old stadium had the same problems with people coming late and leaving early and genuinely disinterested in the game.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
Won't be that last we'll see of Justin Tryon.
He’ll be back next season after everything he showed last week.
Let's hope so
for several reasons.
If for no other reason than heart, desire and fortitude
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I think TT is gone. Ross will come cheaper imo.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Nov 1, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be nice.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
we dont have the roster space
Barden will be coming off PUP this week & he’ll be taking Tryon’s spot. We’d have to cut someone else is order to make room for Bodden. We’d also have to find more money under the salary cap. I’d imagine Bodden would like a decent amount more than the vet minimum
Nobody wins the Superblow in November.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Yep, but it might be worth it
Maybe he can tell us where the camera’s are…..
To Ed,
I thought it was funny too that espn came out with basically the same article you wrote about Eli for MVP consideration. I usually check both websites for any Giants news and discussion but I think I will just look here.
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