Giants' Run Defense: Where Has It Gone And What Can Be Done?

it was 2 games, against teams that you absolutely HAD to defend the pass. Can’t blame Osi for the Eagles’ running success, though he’s obviously a run liability. Have been thinking about that heavy run package with Canty at end, I’d like to see that set a little bit in the games. Seattle’s a team that would seem to be more balanced run/pass, so we’ll see what happens there, but the quality of that team may detract from what we learn.

so i may just be totally off base—but in that one game he was taking horrible persuit angles and could not shed blockers. He was poor at the point of attack and seemed to just be out there running around with no real technique—the few games he’s played for the gmen have been similar—keep williams in there—he seems like the better player.

Its just personnell, i think we will get it together….also Antrel not being down in the box as much because of slot responsibilities is a big deal.

Goff is the main missing ingredient though……. but we have the talent, run stopping is a disposition, if you are not going to tackle then you can forget about it.

Also teams are attacking our edges and the reason they do that is Greg Jones is not good sideline to sideline yet, he is a nose diver, which means he smashes anything up the middle but side to side he has looked pretty bad.

in the 2nd half against Philly the run D started to get better. Why? Rolle was sent on blitzes and playing up along the LOS. They can’t do this against prolific pass O’s like Philly and against someone like Fitzgerald, who if you throw the ball anywhere within 10 yards of him he’ll make the play.

Also give credit to Beanie Wells. The guy’s a load and eventually that takes its toll. Having Osi in there at RDE didn’t help, but in the past they’ve stopped the run well. I didn’t see many blitzes either

I honestly am not concerned really at all.

McCoy is a slippery sob, and i give him credit for doing what he did a week ago.

Wells….I simply think Fewell game planned more to protect the “deep ball”…sure Giants players blew contain a few times but that can be corrected….

still more concerned about what’s going on in the secondary….

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Canty and JPP at DE’s, if Tuck cannot go, on running downs.. and Osi taking over on passing downs moving JPP into DT.

Whenever Osi is in the game have Williams behind him… Whatever JWill lacks in technique, he makes up for in speed.

Have Osi create his patented running lane and JWill cover it.

. Now as far as shutting down the run this is the game to build confidence as Seattle is 31st in rushing. Avg. 67.5 ypg.

Injuries and everything else has left them with a less than elite Defense. Which means they gotta scheme to take away the other teams strength rather that stand pat and trust that they can stop everything that comes at them.

As has been the philosophy under Fewell they will choose to take away the big play and give up the short stuff more readily. It has worked out well so far but they need a healthy D-line before they will be able to stuff the run and prevent the bomb.

In short to fix this, they need Tuck to play.

Osi and Tolly kept getting sealed by Heap all game. (or over pursued and took themselves out of the play). Kiwi had some good contain most of the time to help out. But its difficult to make stops when the opposing teams TE can completely seal off your DE 1v1.

but I have to say.

This is a really good article.

I don’t always agree with you Ed, but you do a damn good job.

Has Jones, Paysinger and/or Herz started any games? I have seen the games but have always failed to see the starting D. on all but one game

Something that is missing from this whole discussion and something that MG has been harping on … the Giants tackling the last few games has been bad and this is one of the reasons we’ve been run on. This part of the problem is entirely fixable, but needs to be worked on right away or it’s going to bite us big time when we play good teams.

In the Philly game it was 80% McCoy. There were not big holes for him he just made some great cutback runs. Giants run D was there at the point of attack McCoy just did some great work, it happens.

Cardinal Game. Like many have stated our safteys played deep most of the game over the top on Fitz. Even Grant, who usually crowds the line and supports the run was deep most of the day. Our safteis usally make a lot of tackles in the run game and that was not the case on Sunday and I’m pretty sure it was by design.

The only thing that concerns me is personal. Tuck, TT, and Goff are all excellent run defenders and they are not on the field. There is nothing they can do about it so we will have issues all year becasue of these injuries and it will catch up to us. Ross is actually pretty good at comming up and stopping the run he’s just not as big or physicall as TT who tackled like a LB. It would be nice to see C-Webb stopp playing titty bang bang with oposing ball carriers.

Bottom line I really don’t care about the stats. McCoy had a ton of yards but the following stats are more important, Eagles scored only 16 points had 3 turnovers and Vick did not finish the game becasue he was hit so much. Arizona scored 10 points off of Giant turnovers and a third TD was set up by the one fantastic play by the best WR in the game. Well’s great day mounted to about 10 points I’ll say 14 becasue he ran it in after the great play by Fitz.

All offseason all Fewell and the Giants D talked about was preventing big plays and thats what killed them last year. Well through 4 games with serious injuries they’ve actually accomplished this. Sure the yardage stats look bad but the end result is not a lot of points being scored by opossing O’s.