'Kudos & Wet Willies,' 5-2 Edition
by Ed Valentine on Oct 31, 2011 9:40 AM EDT
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The New York Giants are 5-2 this morning, regardless of whether or not victory No. 5 was more difficult than anyone thought it would be. Here are your Monday morning 'Kudos & Wet Willies.
Kudos to ...
Eli Manning: Really, what is there to say? Manning was 31-of-45 for 349 yards and two touchdowns. He did not come close to turning the ball over all day. He got no help from the running game, and not much help from the guys he was throwing the ball to. He pretty much was the Giants' offense. Four times this season Manning has led the Giants to come-from-behind victories in the fourth quarter. Forget elite. Let's start asking when people will begin putting him in the MVP conversation.
Victor Cruz: Just about the only guy who did not let Manning down at one point or another during the game, and once again came up with the biggest catch of the game, the 25-yard game-winning touchdown. Three of Cruz's seven catches also went for first downs. What was the name of that guy who used to be the Giants' slot receiver? You know, the one buried on Philadelphia's bench.
Corey Webster: Chased Brandon Marshall all day, and made the game-clinching interception in the final two minutes. Gee, isn't it amazing what happens when your defensive coordinator let's a terrific man-to-man press corner play man-to-man press coverage all over the field? That only took a season and a half.
Justin Tryon: Two brilliant special teams tackles, including an ankle grab of Reggie Bush on a great kick by Steve Weatherford. Tryon also had a pass defensed and did a beautiful job blanketing Bush on another pass play.
Steve Weatherford: Have to also give the Giants' punter props. His final punt was a thing of beauty, a 55-yarder that pinned Bush to the sidelines and drove him right into Tryon's waiting arms. Weatherford averaged 46.8 yards per punt, and nailed three inside the 20-yard line.
Mathias Kiwanuka: Seven tackles, 1.5 sacks. Once again, Kiwanuka was a force wherever he lined up. When the season ends the Giants have got to lock Kiwanuka up with a rich, long-term contract.
Wet Willies to ...
Brandon Jacobs: Four carries for 10 measly yards, a dropped handoff and a dropped pass. Oh, and boos from the MetLife Stadium faithful on several occasions in the second half. The best thing Jacobs did all day was manage not to say anything inflammatory after the game.
The Run Defense: The Giants made Reggie Bush look like Earl Campbell running between the tackles. All I can say is the amount of holes that get blown in the middle of a run defense with players as talented as the Giants have is ridiculous. I don't know who to blame anymore, but it is absolutely ridiculous.
Kwillies to ...
After Sunday's game, there are a whole lot of players who belong in this category.
Hakeem Nicks: Six catches for 67 yards, but two huge drops.
Jake Ballard: Four catches for 55 yards, but you can't drop that perfectly thrown seam pass that would have gone for another 30 or 40 yards.
Mario Manningham: A pretty nice day for Manningham, but you cannot drop a touchdown pass you get both hands on. The fourth-quarter pass was contested, but you have to make that play with the game possibly on the line.
Linval Joseph: His first career sack, but also a pretty ridiculous personal foul penalty when the Giants were trying to make a goal-line stand. You have to say this for Joseph, though. His WWE-style dive/headbutt was certainly an athletic move for a 320-pound man.
Offensive Line: Absolutely horrid run-blocking. Absolutely brilliant pass protection. It's pretty amazing how the Giants can do one thing so well and the other thing so badly. Let's talk about the good before the bad.
Manning threw 45 passes and was sacked once. In the second half he generally had enough time to read 'War and Peace' while he surveyed the field. He was hardly touched over the final two quarters.
The run-blocking, though? Atrocious. I watched the game a second time Monday morning, and I can't really put the blame on anyone in particular. David Baas was bad in run-blocking, and he somehow has to get his shotgun snaps above Eli's shins. Chris Snee kept getting pushed into the backfield. One thing I do have to say while I'm mentioning Snee. He is constantly referred to as the Giants' best offensive lineman. Problem is, he is not nearly the dominant road-grader he was three or four seasons ago. David Diehl whiffed on a couple of blocks. Bear Pascoe was good on or two plays and bad on others while playing fullback.
Seems like on nearly every run play there is at least one blocker either whiffing on his assignment or getting pushed into the path of the running back. It might have been communication at the beginning of the season that was slowing the running game. Now, it just looks more and like guys getting physically beaten.
Devin Thomas: A terrific 40-yard return, and a bone-headed return to the 15-yard line when he had no business coming out of the side of the end zone.
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i like this Justin Tryon
wish we had 10 more tacklers like him.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
I've said it b4
Tryon getting on the field wld help more than Prince at this stage !! He can cover Welker or at least he should be able to stay close to him next week!
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With Tyron
and prince… we can maybe handle all the WRs the Pats and Packers will throw at us.
This is the most exciting Giants team I watched for quite some time.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Agreed on the exciting comment
said it during cam… new, young guys getting huge chances for playing time, with some growing pains of course. That all we can ask for.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
continued improvement… Every Week Eli gets us a win, gives our youngs guys that much more time to keep improving.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Does it make a difference who gets on the field
We need more CBs playing as CBs and Rolle at S
If Rocky Bernard can make that shift I’m all for it. But fact is Tryon and Prince must be given chances at that job.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I agree
though, unlike the RB situation that is “who do you take out”, it will be more a matter of “your a cb?? get out there!”
I think with the teams that we will be playing, everyone that can play at CB will play at CB and quite possibly, at the same time.
We might see a 4-1-6 alignment…
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
dont you think webster should be on welker?
He is their best receiver.
you come at the king you best not miss...
yeah but it's really tough playing in the slot
DB’s use to playing on the outside sometimes have trouble covering guys inside.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I agree
I might give a Wet Willie to Greg Jones & Boley as well, boley seemed to be in the wrong on Moores TD scamper…but he & Jones both sucked vs the run ! Thought Hamm played well ,on the td drop his right arm was held just enough to prevent him from getting both hands on the ball cleanly…2nd half D was Kudos worthy
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 31, 2011 9:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think I might be the only one who thought this game would be close
The difference between winning is loosing is a very fine line. The winning team is almost always the team that is better prepared and the one that excutes the best.
The Dolphins brought everything they had, their execution of thier plays was excellent, they brought intensity and they were prepared for the Giants. I am very proud of my Giants for matching that and overcoming it.
This was a great win for the Giants. btw, where is all the clamor that the Saints are the worst team in the world?? They not only struggled against a winless team but lost to one…
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
you
And Tito. He’s been internet screaming it all week.
Its just the latest example of flat play in our on stadium.
To quote Tuck about the crowd near the end of the game, “when they’re loud like that, we get an extra boost. All the fatigue, all the injuries, all the pain in your body kinda goes away when you can’t hear.” Pain Kinda goes away When you can hear. Thats the kind of impact a home crowd can have….
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
by tommy d. on Oct 31, 2011 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont think we came out flat.
I thought the Dolphins came out with more energy to start. We didnt match theirs right away but I dont think that means we came out flat….
I do think that one of the reasons for the PSL’s – again I dont know, never seen a game at Giants Stadium – is to get a younger crowd in the stands.. I saw a lot of empty seats and I was sitting their wishing I was there.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Flat.
The Giants players themselves said as much. The quotes are out there, the history of it at home is there, and yesterday’s performance is on tape.
It bothers me…
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
by tommy d. on Oct 31, 2011 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
stupid 1Q penalties too
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
but he kept the ball from being thrown deep again
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Your boy
Is making it a habit of sealing victories with fourth quarter INTs.
And he’s playing like a Pro Bowler the rest of the time.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
by tommy d. on Oct 31, 2011 10:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love having
A corner on the Giants of his ability. Keep up the good work Reese. Keep using this stud the proper way.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
by tommy d. on Oct 31, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Keep up the good work Reese"
…hmm. The Prince is just about ready to make his appearance.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Him and Tryon
Could this be the equivalent of Ross and CWEB in 07
(forgive me my optimism in advance)
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
optimism is encouraged here
I am one of many that are absolutely enamored with this team. I love watching this team. They are exciting, they are young, they are talented… and most importantly, they are winning.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
yes
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
he abused Marshall yesterday
He couldn’t have played that last play any better.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
he couldn't cover Charles friggin Clay
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 31, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we give Aaron Ross a season long Kudos for not muffing a punt ONCE?
He had like a 6.0 PR average, but hell, I’ll take it with a smile.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
not to mention
he actually looks more and more comfortable back there. I think he might break one before the season is through.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
haha, not going to get up my hopes THAT high...baby steps.
but so long as he keeps doing what he’s doing….I’ll take it. ST look soooooooo average….which is so refreshing….
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
average for this group of Specials
is better then what we have seen is years past
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree..
Pretty funny when you get excited about a guy who DOESN’T MUFF PUNTS… but I’d still like to get him back to the Aaron Ross, top CB, though. He has been inconsistent this year… great game, bad game, absent game. It seems like he is getting it back, I just hope he is THERE when they need him.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
I'd say having an "absent" CB is good. If we don't call his name, he's doing something right!
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Absent definition...
What I meant is that corner that angles a guy so that he can make a sideline catch for a first down… and then he pushes the WR out. That’s not good. That’s why the defense can’t get off the field at times. I’m not blaming Ross for that, just giving you my definition of “absent”.
Bad games is when he absolutely blew coverages, or bit on double moves… or just flat out did not make a tackle.
But he seems to be progressing back to form, and that will be great as the IMPORTANT games approach.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
ah I see
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Ross has been .....
Sure he has some bad plays,but who doesn’t ? He’s healthy Now & gaining confidence,can’t tackle for shat,but he’s playing well for a guy who hasn’t seen the field as an outside CB for 2 yrs
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 31, 2011 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll give him a Kudo for not pulling his hamstring..yet
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You trying to jinx it!?
Shit man!
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 31, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuel on the Jacobs fire.
If ya watched the Oline in that game, you may have seen a more worthy wet willie. There were no holes for anyone al damn day. It was literally a wall that our RB’s looked at every time, with like two exceptions.
But I guess it’s easy to point at the unpopyular guy and blame him for a crappy running game. The problem runs much deeper than him.
You down wit JPP?
absolutely
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
People are harping more about
the dropped handoff and pass. No body could run with that O line. Id like to see some more draw and screen plays.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Exactly
However, Jacobs is big enough that he could potential push for some extra yards, rather than stop still at the line of scrimmage and looking for somewhere to go. He needs to run down hill and keep those tree trunks churning.
I agree 100%
Ware had one run where he looked like he was shot out of a cannon. That might have been the best run of the day.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
He still fumbled a handoff and dropped a screen pass
He was not himself yesterday. Oline or no Oline.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 31, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
or maybe what we saw was BJac as he is today. . .
I just feel like the tread is worn a bit thin on those tires.
Hope I’m wrong.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
If it was just bad running
I’d be willing to give him a pass. But the dropped screen pass could have been killer
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
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[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22
it's both OLine and Jacobs
even in space, Jacobs was horrible. Looked slow and reaction time was even worse. Only thing he did do well yesterday was stay in there and pick up the Blitz.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
I give JPP
Kudos, pressure, sack and tackles from 3 different positions,
by GiantFaninColorado on Oct 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
Tryon for size...
What a terrific performance by Tryon. Was he available because of his size? He seems like a nice ST addition, and he was handling his coverage well. Has he played his way into a role when Prince is back in the lineup?
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
starting next week
we are going to need everybody, Pats with their 4-5 wide sets.. and the Pack with the same…
Ross/Webby/Prince/Tyron… with Rolle/KP we will need them all on the field at the same time.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Pats
Have 2 wr’s & 2 TE’s….no deep threat…they are not the same as GB or NO ! But they are as effective ..
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 31, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the safeties are going to have to come up
shrink the zone, close up the holes, because those guys find them
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Like I keep saying
This is and is going to be a fun team to watch.
If we speak out wins every week.. we are superbowl champs…
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
I accidently erased the bridge to your comment
It had something to do, with guys getting better at their positions and guys coming back from injuries… We might actually have the team to take on the “Gauntlet” and come out of it shinning.
I dont care if we dont blow out any teams.. as long as we winning.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Indy coaches just did not like him
The fans did. They were pissed he was cut.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
tryon
Has been a good nickle for a while..he actually shld have been starting in Indy…his size is against him ! But Prince does not have Tryons skill set,I’ve maintained that Tryon wld have a greater impact at THIS stage of the season than Prince
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 31, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd be inclined to agree with you on this...
Prince hasn’t played a down yet, and while he’s athletic and adds much needed speed, he’s a rookie and he’s going to take a while to get into the flow. Tryon doesn’t have the upside over the long-haul that Prince does, nor close to it, but I think we stole ourselves a competent corner and a special teams ace. I’m certainly happier having Tryon on board than seeing more of the Brian Williams show.
They won. Good.
As expected (by me anyway), Miami is not as bad as their record indicates. I hope Miami fans aren’t anticipating Andrew Luck’s arrival, there is no way thats going to happen.
No idea what is going on with the Giants run blocking. I have a hard time believing its any kind of personnel issue though. Their pass blocking is pretty good… I know Eli took some shots but he was only sacked once. Seems like on most rushing plays guys are getting hit while they’re still in the backfield. Maybe its communication or something but as far as I’m concerned it can now be considered a trend. I hope they can fix it quick because throwing the ball 70% of offensive snaps isn’t going to work against better teams in the league.
As soon as Jacobs dropped that pass, I knew what I’d be reading about here today. Obviously from the crowd’s reaction, Giants fans as a whole dislike him about as much as many of the posters on here. 5 touches and a dropped pass and “he stinks”. Maybe if he had run one like Bo Jackson in Tecmo Bowl and blasted guys into the air, fans would cut him some slack (I have doubts). I mean this in all seriousness, it may be time to just let him go. If they are going to use him this way, having him around is worthless. If the Giants were a high school team, I would guess that the coaches were trying to get him to quit. Just like last year, they are avoiding giving him the ball. You’d think “well if he plays better he’ll get the ball more”, but I think last year showed that isn’t necessarily the case. He’s dopey for saying stuff in the media about it, sure, but I get where he’s coming from. The first cracks appeared with Bradshaw’s feet and ankles yesterday… what are the chances they run him into the ground again like last year? I’m sure Giant fans everywhere will be thrilled with Ware / Scott.
Good thing they have Weatherford. One bad punt and that game could have easily gone the other way.
Good thing Sparano didn’t throw the red flag.
Good thing the ref threw the yellow one on Brandon Marshall. That was a game changing call, and Miami got hosed.
Good thing Eli is the QB. He is single handedly hiding some serious flaws with this team by playing so well.
Clock management again, for the 3rd game in a row now. Keep putting the ball in the air up 3 late in the game. Let them keep their timeout. It’ll bite them eventually.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 31, 2011 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
its not just about that he didnt get alot of yards for me
it was how he ran. he looked completely out of it, extremely slow once he got the ball even for jacobs
Giants Mets, JPP is a MONSTER
That sounds a lot like Dierdorf's analysis
Coincidence?
4 carries and not one did he get out of the backfield without being hit. Pretty easy to look slow when you’ve got defensive linemen around your ankles. The Giants run game has bigger issues than Jacobs. When they make holes, the backs run through. Bradshaw got clocked in the backfield a bunch of times yesterday too. So did Ware, when they brought him in.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Completely agree
The coaches showed him last year that no matter how well he ran he’s not going to get carries. Coughlin is a dinosaur, he does not like him and because of that will not use him effectively. Frankly if Jacobs isn’t running hard because he does not want to get injured I don’t blame him. If they aren’t going to use him correctly then they should let him go and free up a spot for Scott, oh wait that would mean Coughlin would have to play a young player w/o being forced to do so by injury… I know alot of people here like Coughlin, but I just never have. His teams show little focus, and discipline, which is astounding for a guy who’s supposedly a disciplinarian.
And back to Jacobs, he needs carries to be effective. He’s always been this way, you can’t just give him 5 carries, he’s not a scat back home run threat. He needs to hit the defense 10-12 times and then he’ll start breaking the 20+ yarders he used to.
Clawfin, noted
And agreed, I’d love to see Scott become the future back. But today’s roster is today. It seems pretty universally known amongst Giants fans that Jacobs is not a 5 touches a game type back. The coaches have admitted as much, so they know it too.
My problem isn’t really with the coaches as much as it is with the overall handling of the situation. I swear, the handling of him seems to border on spiteful. Part of me wonders if they are paying him to keep him off the Redskins roster because if they cut him I bed they’d think about it…
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 31, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
of course but they looked better in the back field then jacobs
thats just my opinion personally, i wish they got him into the game earlier why have the guy there if he is going to come in for 4 rushes? he isnt a speed guy so he needs to see much more snaps to do what he does best.
Giants Mets, JPP is a MONSTER
Maybe
I’m just not going to evaluate the guy’s performance based on 4 carries. The drop was terrible, but I think the sweeping statements I’ve been reading for the past couple weeks are way over the top (he’s slow, he’s always injured, etc etc).
He had a below average year playing through an injury a couple years ago, followed by a good year last year, has missed 2 games due to injury this year and has been pretty much statistically insignificant so far. I’m describing Justin Tuck of course, but nobody is calling him out (and rightfully so). Clearly, Jacobs isn’t the brightest for getting emotional in the media. Obviously, he should know better. But boo-ing the guy for dropping a ball? Really?
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 31, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
true true
but again i was just talkin about yesterday’s performance. i personally have never seen him like that and was just blown away. looked like a completely different guy. if he comes out next week with a good performance (if even given the chance) i wouldnt be shocked. it could all be from the injury still lingering for all i know.
And i think the booing was more from the stand point that he likes to talk some about getting on the field and when he does he doesnt make the most of his opportunities.
Giants Mets, JPP is a MONSTER
I'll totally agree with you about the clock management...
We did everything we could to leave as much time as possible for a Dolphins comback with some VERY questionable playcalling. I’m not griping about the entire game, but it was a pretty bazaar move to keep stopping the clock with incomplete and unnecessary passes with time running out on the Fins.
I hope they can fix it quick because throwing the ball 70% of offensive snaps isn’t going to work against better teams in the league.
that’s not true anymore. At least not this season
All of the better teams throw the ball more than pass
Packers 34 passes/ 26 rushes per game
Saints 43/27
Lions 38/22
Steelers 34/27
Bears 33/24
Falcons 36/26
Giants 33/28
We’re 24th in passing attempts per game.
As much as I don't like it
I’ve accepted the fact that they’re not going to run the ball as much as I think they could. I was hoping the line was getting better, but it doesn’t look that way right now. Plus, Eli is on a tear so its kind of hard to argue that they should take the ball out of his hands.
That said, 70% is WAY lopsided. Not saying they have to be lopsided the other way, or even that they have to be at 50 / 50. Just saying even when the run game is relatively average… say 3 YPC, I think they are a better offense when they stay with it if the game is close.
But it hasn’t been average, its been outright bad… so I dunno.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 31, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
Clock management again, for the 3rd game in a row now. Keep putting the ball in the air up 3 late in the game. Let them keep their timeout. It’ll bite them eventually.
we had ZERO success running the ball. I had no problems throwing the ball. At that point our defense was shutting them down. If I have any criticism it might have been to throw more conservative passes allowing the clock to run.
Its a question of aggressiveness
In that position on the field, with time running out and Miami only having one timeout left, the safe play is to run the ball and make them call time out. Miami can’t allow 40 seconds to run off for every down so they’re basically forced to blow the last TO. If you don’t make the first down, so what, you punt it away (which they wound up doing anyway) and play defense for the win.
Going for more points there through the air is extremely aggressive. I get the “go for the jugular!” thing, but I’m telling you I’ve seen enough Giants games end with silly stuff like that. You drop back to pass, its risking sacks, fumbles, tipped balls, interceptions, etc. For exactly the reason you mentioned (defense was shutting them down toward the end), IMO you grind as much time off as you can, kick it if you have to, and force them to beat you rather than risk shooting yourself in the foot. They spotted Miami a minute and a half and a timeout, and got nothing for it. Against Matt Moore that might work okay but against a Tom Brady or somebody, you’re asking for it.
They’ve done it twice in two weeks, and its worked out fine… but I don’t think I’ll ever be comfortable watching it, no matter how good Eli is playing. JMO
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 31, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Going to be awesome watching Webster go up against Welker next week.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
might be a better job for Tryon
Need little guy-quick steps
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Perhaps. Have Tryon there and have somebody ALWAYS shading Welker as well.
Thats what Pitt did. Had Ike Taylor on him with Troy Polamalu all game. Have Tryon/Cweb with KP all game. Have Rolle and Ross/Cweb on Hernandez/Gronkowski. Everybody else fends for themselves.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
just have JPP across from him
Swing the arms back and forth. When the ball is snapped, club him.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
lol
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
But that's a felony
Cause he’ll break his frickin neck
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
That's a scary match-up, right there..Oh boy...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
IDK
They put Ross on D Jax…Ross is faster, and quicker out of his breaks than CWeb. I don’t know if he’ll be blanketing Welker all day…
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 31, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
feel like Cweb is better taking away the angles that Welker produces. Ross is a bettter straight line athlete...thus
matching up better with Imma run a post route DJax….feel like he’d get crossed up pretty bad by Welker
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
True that
We’ll see I guess last time we played them it was Moss he was blanketing…things have certainly changed since then.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 31, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If CWEB can take out one of their guys on an island (which I think he can)
It lets the others gang up on Welker and Co. Even if he isn’t on Welker he can key the defense.
Key next week is DTs. Brady abhors pressure up the middle, he’s not the same when a DT sacks him.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Tryon
any injury status…we’re gonna need him next week
I thought I heard somewhere last night
it was a forearm stinger
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Injuries
Those updates will come a bit later today. Guys are having tests, etc. this morning.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 31, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Our run defense
I rewatched many of those plays. We know it well – the hole in between the LT and LG made Barber’s career. But instead of blocking the RDE outside with the LT and pulling the RG and FB through the hole, they used the LT to double the RDT (Canty) and put the RG or FB on Osi. Blew both of our guys out of the water. Their FB could not block JPP, though.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I have only a couple I disagree with..
Ballard had a great game..
And the O-line absolutely did not provide stellar pass protection..that was all Eli making time for himself..
That was funny watching Tryon..He was like a dog on a bone and refused to give it up..I bet he was even growling…GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Oh and I agree Steve who????
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Smith is having a great year
became a dominate WR again, thanks to Cam Newton…. wait wrong guy, my bad
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Snee
is he digressing, is he overrated, does he get a pass because of nepotism?
He is digressing, simple as that
I just hope Brewer, Petrus are developing into maulers to replace whoever needs replacing when the time comes.
That and I always want Oline picks in the draft. The Oline needs to be the greatest strength of this team, IMO.
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by tommy d. on Oct 31, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget Boothe
Or Andrews we have options at G right now, but I’d worry about Diehl first. He has too many turnstile plays, they lead to holds and other penalties cause the T and C start trying to compensate.
If they solidify the left, then they can look at the right.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I hear you.
I was thinking about the future when I made that comment.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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I'll just give him a temporary pass..tough to comeback after being out..
If he isn’t ready next week..then TC needs to stop having him over for dinner..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*regressing
but I digress….
Just sayin’ ;)
by Step up and make big plays on Oct 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I blame the run game on that Hyniskie the announcers were talking about
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
J Will
can he dial up what he did against the Pats in the pre season
Any word on AB and Hicks injuries?
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 31, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
Nicks
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora
They have nicks? :)
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 31, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
And I'll give Coe a Kudos
The last guy on the bench. Downed the punt at the 5, and caught the KR from behind on that long return.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Yeah I think all-in-all..Our special teams had a decent day..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yes
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
So if we lost...
would we be a worse team than the saints…. or are the saints still better than us, even though they lost to a previously “defeated” team?
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
we're still a worse team to the Saints according to everybody "in the know"
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
didn't you hear
Brees’ two INTs (one a pick 6) were not his fault, Rams only won cause the World Champion Cardinals were in attendence
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Eli's fault
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually want to give Bomar credit
and I dont know why… lol
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
sounds fair
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
well...we sort of HAVE to give Bomar credit...
or else
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MAKE IT WORK!!!
I did hear...
the only reason the rams won is because they had the residual effects of winning surounding them
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Doesn't matter that we won..and are two games ahead in the division..
We’re frauds, remember..ask ‘Payless’
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Tebow and Romo are pleased with Skip
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you Skip Clue-less
Or as I call him, that blithering schmuck
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
the Nascar formation....
needs to realize that screen passes will in fact be used against them… A LOT.
be mindful fellas.
TeamJPP
I am already hating the Nascar formation.
At first it sounds awesome, heck even on paper it does. But we are just left more vulnerable against the run. And we already aren’t the greatest team against the run. Let the DTs do what they are paid to do, that’s why every team has DTs.
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NASCAR on 3rd and 15
Lets forget it on 3rd and less than 9
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Spot on with the Kudos and Wet Willies this week
Completely agree.
And at first I thought that play with Linval was still a live play and the whistle wasn’t blown yet (during realtime)…but after seeing the replay… LOL
Linval looked like he was waiting for the camera to pick him up before his slo-mo swan dive into an already stopped running play. Pissed me off seeing how boneheaded that was. But liked that he got a sack later.
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ELI!
While Romo basks in the warmth of Dallas hype, Vick cries about being treated like a RB in the pocket, and Shanahan tries to create a QB out of mud (‘cause he’s God)… ELI just continues to do THIS.
He calmly walks into his office, lays his breifcase down, takes out all the work he did over the weekend…. and GETS SHIT DONE.
No, he’s not the physical talent equal to Brady, Brees or Rodgers, but he is one helluva NY Giants QB. Now that he has four or five receivers on the same page, there might now be a better QB to execute the Giant gameplan.
Not to mention… all that “52 is the Mike”, checking out of plays, and the obligatory delay of game penalty… yeah, it’s annoying, but that’s why they have RB’s that can easily identify their assignments, and a line that can perform even with replacement parts all over the place. A lot of the “TIME” he gets is because of the “TIME” he puts in.
…and some really good offensive line coaching.
Suck on that Tiki Barber… who was in VA last week doing the opening of a Dick’s Sporting Goods store… HOW APPROPRIATE!
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by JPinVA on Oct 31, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
LOL!!!..rec'd
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
well said
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
awesome.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree...Eli is just as physically talented as any of those 3 (Brady,Brees, and Rodgers)
okay, maybe not the SLIDING part. But he has natural presence in the pocket and shifts nicely to avoid hits, stays in there for hits at times and has a good enough arm (in terms of accuracy and arm strength). His problem was he tended to rush or force things in – that has calmed down, and that NY’s game plan has always been about a run first team.
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ohh and he always gets wrongfully compared to his brother.
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Well your right..about tough..He as I mentione on Mike's post, took two hits..
That would have had any other QB hauled off on a cart…Eli is creating his own time because he can move around the pocket like hardly anyone else in the league..but I I agree with JPinVA
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
oh don't get me wrong, I agree with everything JPinVA said accept that
I put Manning up there with those guys in terms of Physical ability. He can have the stats just like them if the Giants were that sort of team and not a run-first team that they’ve always prided themselves on being.
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I am obviously...
a fan… and I’d put him in anybody’s league as far as POCKET PRESENCE, but as far as tossing the ball into keyholes from 35 yards… not so much. What he brings when he’s on is a guy that is reading and reacting to a defense in motion… he may be the best QB in the league to make a decision for a reciever. He also depends heavily on perfect mechanics… when he slips into bad mechanics (throwing off his back foot) or not squaring to his throws, he doesn’t have the physical ability to overcome this like the other guys.
But he is tough as shit as well…. and if you scramble his insides the guy just gets up like he slipped on one of his kids toys, and doesn’t want to wake up his sleeping wife.
THAT’S THE GUY I WANT LEADING THE NY GIANTS!
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@JPinVA
did you see those 2 or 3 bad drops yesterday?
Perfect throws!!!!!
I mean spot on – accurate deep throws (well, maybe just 2 of the 3 were deep). So, yeah I still disagree on just that one thing. Everything else I completely agree with… Eli is perfect for the Gmen.
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Yesterday was yesterday...
you’re right… but I’m talking about what he has been the last 5 years. And he is better now than 5 years ago…. but he can still chuck a few “WTF” passes… and we’re not sure who made the mistake… BUT SOMEBODY DID.
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I remember when he was drafted
everyone talked about how great his arm strengh was.
I think he still has it.. he had nailed throws 40-50 yards downfield. but the drops the WRs have make it seem like he cant throw deep.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Peyton way back when Eli was frafted stated the Eli had a better arm than he does..
Eli is finally having the breakout year we’ve all been clamouring for..He won us a SB, but now he’s playing outstanding football..and I don’t know if many of you have noticed, but although he’s still not a vocal animated in your face QB..His stares this year are burning holes in the recievers when they screw up..I used to get pissed that he wasn’t jumping in peoples faces…but this year he’s firing laser beams at them and they know it..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*Ooops I meant Drafted..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Forgiven
I noticed that too.. When his WRs mess up, they get the death look from Eli. He is truly bringing this team up with him. He is very supportive and is earning every bit of his contract.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
The biggest issue with Eli...
is that they DIDN’T draft him. They gave up an awful lot for him… but a SB and ~7 single QB seasons later Ernie Acorsi is starting to look like a genius.
He gave up (over three years) almost a complete draft class, and Rivers. A lot of it has to do with being a second generaton QB that has been breaking down NFL defenses since he was 10. Being a NYG QB is not the easiest of things to be… bad weather… a defense oriented game plan that relies heavily on CLOCK MANAGEMENT (and running based long drives).
No QB in the league directs a running game better…. which NEVER shows up in the stats… all that gets is KEVIN GILBRIDE SUCKS from over anxious fans.
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@JPinVA
Best QB in the league to make a decision for a receiver.
YUP.
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Kudos to Kiwi for sure!!!
Can play all the LB spots and all the DL spots…… he is a special talent for sure
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Kudos
To Will Allen who made his best play as a Giant yesterday getting spun like a top and then bouncing off Victor Cruz on the game winning touchdown.
by Madhops on Oct 31, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
+1
He is giving the, “aw, hell no!” face of disbelief in the pic at the top of the thread….
by Step up and make big plays on Oct 31, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I just heard Jacobs' concern coming out of yesterday is
he just brought a fast car….. really dude?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
what?
Come on…now, for the first time in my life, I want to punch a 6’4" 265 lb man in the face…while being sober, of course.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
punch him
then run for your f*ckin life
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I'll buy a fast car to escape in
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
they threw Jacobs the keys to it
but he dropped them
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
But why is he sitting in the trunk?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Like Eli's Toyota commercials gone horribly wrong
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
has to be faster than Jacobs' fast car
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I'll just drop football out of mine as he is chasing me...
he can’t get anywhere near those.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
heck Jacobs will probably still catch him
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Shit I'd rather climb up the Empire State builing then punch him...
Shit the fucking richochet of my fist would knock me out..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
About as good at finding a hole as Moammar Gaddafi
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 31, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Timely reference.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
He bought a fast car?? LOL!!..Can he line-up in the backfield with it??
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Damn that Eli Manning has come a long way
But it’s still god damn October, I’m not sold on anything yet.
Now that the calendar has turned, it’s time to see what Easy E has for the NFL’s elite.
Couldn’t have asked for a better Sunday Night game though as the Eagles are now clearly the team to beat in the division
Couldn’t have had a better Sunday.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 31, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree...
I like Eli’s chances in NE next weekend. The Eagles always look great after a bye. I expected them to beat Dallas even worse than they did. Washington is done. Dallas is limping and we have a full 2 game lead over everyone!
Suck on that…everyone!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
You got that right...
“Arise my noble blue knights!!!”…“Arise ‘Puff-Farts’..and the Cracken!!!” “Arise Duke of Ellington!!”(oops, I have no idea why I stuck Duke Ellington in there)..“Arise Kevin Horsehead and our loyal offensive servants!!!”…“Arise Offensive line and fucking block!!!”
“ARISE!!!!!!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
lol
It was stated a while back ago that the Kracken should be given to G. Jones, and I loved that nickname….
Although, now, (sorry costanza) I believe the “Release the Kraken” should be the name given to the 4th quater defensive line and the blitz heavy schemes.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
I hope PF saw Ryan Clarks post-game comments.
“We played more press-man coverage today than all my years in PIT”.
Watched the post-game of Dallas-Philly on ESPN
Aside from the fact that the Eagles have cured all their problems and are the greatest team ever to wear an NFL uniform… Romo should get ZERO blame in this game. The logic behind it, the Cowboy offense never got the ball and when they did, Romo was powerless to do anything. So… free pass to Tony.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
Well hopefully the great Philadelphia Beagles shot their last load...
The most entertaining part of that game was that goofy call on an obvious forward pass..I thought Reid was going to fart chicklets…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Gotta assume last night's game was the absolute ceiling on how they can play.
If they were a stock, I’d short ’em.
Did you stress the point
that the eagles are the greatest team ever to put on a NFL jersey… way better than the undefeated dolphins….
I am not sure you make that point have the effect it needs…
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
my bad
1. 2011 Eagles
huge gap
2. Any team with Bomar
3. 70’s Steelers
4. 80’s 49ers
5. 90’s Cowboys
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
you are getting closer
I think it goes more like
1 – God
2 – Eagles
3 – the heavenly angles
4 – Jesus
.
.
15 – any team with bomar… etc.. etc… etc..
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
No Tebow on your list
how dare you!!!!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
that is unacceptable!
I join you in your outrage!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
My bad...
Tebow is at #5…
once he wins a superblow he will over take Jesus for the #4 slot.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
I thought
Jesus is Tebow?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 31, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Tebow is the holy trinity
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Well thus far, Tebow is winning 'Superblows'..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Dallas-Philly game last night was the Super Blow 2011...damn, and I missed it. What was I thinking?
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Philly beats a bad Washington team and a Mediocore Dallas team know nobody can figure out how they lost 4 games
Easy, so far Philly has only beaten teams with losing records
by Late for Dinner on Oct 31, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
And the juggernaut that is the Rams.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
Was it really that bad?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
Oline getting physically beaten
This is what I said a few weeks ago. Diehl is always getting pushed back, even though he knows who to block.
I don’t know what’s up with Snee, but he’s not doing well either, hasn’t been all year. Our best running game came with Beatty at RG.
I don’t think Petrus will get beat physically at G the way Diehl is.
I think we have players who can hel;p us on the line against the run, and I’m not talking about rookies new to the system.
But the coaches absolutely will not bite the bullet on any veteran offensive lineman during the season.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
oopd, I said Beatty, but meant "Boothe"
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
For the reasons you state,
I am not liking the 49er game.
NE is not scaring me, but SF beats people up at the LOS.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
Getting the Ugly "W" makes it easy to focus on the postives.
Cruz is really making SS12 a fading memory. Others here have comented on the difference in YAC with him. Nick-name for SS12 was “The Crumpler”. Gave literal meaning to the phrase "sit down in the zone’.
Eli just awesome lately. Great reads, great decisions, and great throws, even the long routes.
SS12??..Is that some sorta new plane or something?..What is a SS12???
This is a football blog..not an Airport blog…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The last SS12 sighting was in an airport
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crashed and burned
although, he is only there for this year. I wonder where he goes next year, I def. know the gmen don’t need him, unless he comes back for nickels and dimes.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Sounds more like a Navy ship. :-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
kudos to dierdorf
for “releasing the kraken”!!!
lol...that was freaking awesome
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Best line from a commentator I've heard in a long long time..beautiful..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This site really does get read
by everyone… doesnt it.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
We have trouble with the blind demographic...
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, they miss out on your GIFs
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
BBVB?
BigBlueViewBraille?
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I don't know...I get blind from too many gameday beers and can still try to type..
I do refrain from reading, cause I have the ‘inability’ to…So I just type..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I agree
it’s too bad that PF waited until the 4th qtr to let it go
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I think that is part of the plan
I think his plan is to merely contain the offense the first half… basic coverages, zones… that type of thing… Figure out what adjustments the other team is trying to implement against us…
by the time the 3rd quarter comes around, he starts puttin the pressue and countering their schemes… and then he releases the kracken in the 4th.
and man that was something beautiful yesterday.. My dad, a lifelong Giants fan, sent me a text after the game, saying he didnt know what monster he just watched was… but whatever it was, it was a thing of beauty.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
So PF scheme is to let the other team " tear us up" for 3 quarters
Then we can start to play defense. PF Blows bro!
I am not sticking up for him
I think because of the injuries we have had, PF is scared to put the rookies out there against teams that have game planned for them.
I would much rather him treat the other 3 quarters like the 4th… but that is just me.
Keep in mind, I dont think the Dolphins are a bad team. They brought it, TC, PF and KG all knew they would…. So, I understand them playing back but I dont agree with it.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Getting myself way ahead but...
What Spags did to the Saints defensively yesterday would/should be a good measuring point for PF when we play the Saints ( whether Radio is as good as Spags) Now THAT was a thing of beauty, pressure all game long!! Hope PF doesn’t sit back and let Brees dictate the game.
I hope so too...
I think our DBs can hang with anything GB, Saints and Pats can dish out…
I just hope he puts the pedal to the metal and runs with it… Those games, everyone on defense will need wings on their feet. should be fun games to watch… and by fun, I mean excruciating, heartburn inducing, Hyde turning games that us Giants fans have come to love and expect.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Snee lost 12 lbs. since last year
I mentioned this previously, but will say it again. Last year Snee weighed 317 and made the cover of Powerlifting USA magazine as the “NFL’s Strongest Man.” The seeming ease that he is being pushed around on the line plus his weight loss suggests that something is going on there.
boothe
played better than snee at his position two weeks ago. kevin boothe.
by section_112 on Oct 31, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
you might actually have to repeat that a couple of times
before you believe it… Kevin. Boothe. ehhh that is wierd…
but I agree, there is something not right with Snee…
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Jacobs
I feel like I’m starting to sound like a Jacobs apologist, but someone has to stick up for the guys that the fans love to hate. Jacobs was not much worse than the other two backs we had with the touches he got. He was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage on every carry he had, which is not his fault. He did have a drop. Nicks and Ballard had several and people are not killing them today (and that is their main job). He was great at blocking when he was in there and did not miss a single block, unlike Bradshaw who missed a few blocks completely. And people are mad that he knows that he will be cut or traded at the end of the year, just like everyone else knows and has been saying since before he said anything. I suppose it is insulting that the player is not blind to the fact that the coaches only gave him 4 carries and do not want to play him? Seriously, come on guys.
I criticize Jacobs' play...
but he isn’t being put in the best positions to succeed. That being said…he needs to catch the ball before I can lobby for Jacobs to get the snaps he wants.
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if we dont make holes
jacobs doesnt work. a guy like AB or Shady can make something out of nothing. but Jacobs only works when he’s hurting 2nd level guys who dont want to tackle him. and that requires holes
by section_112 on Oct 31, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
there are few if any holes from our OL, but. . .
BJac does not get as low or get as explosive as he did in his prime to push the pile. He’s too easy to stop in his forward progress if he doesn’t get low and burst.
When he’s running high, there’s no power in his power running because guys can hit his middle and his legs and he doesn’t have leverage.
Combine that with his weaker vision in finding the hole, and he’s just not effective.
At this point in his career, he can’t afford any lapses at all in the OL making a hole where the play is designed to run. And right now, that’s not happening, at all.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
AB hasn't "made something out of nothing" yet this year.
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Cruz was looking quite "slot-ish" yesterday, no?
I like to see that.
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yes...he does
He does scare me with hos he holds the ball though. I know he is just trying to get yards to win games but I see Bradshaw of last year in him a bit. Yesterday was clean though.
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I agree
He catches it, and then extends the ball away from his body. He will def. be fumbling a couple more times this year….he should be coached to hold the ball closer to his body.
tiki had some problems with fumbling
coughlin was able to solve those problems hopefully he could give some advise to Cruz before it becomes an issue
OT: while I'm here...
Just wanted to say that I don’t post here very often, but Ed, you and the guys do a tremendous job… It’s definitely my favorite place to read about the NYG!
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
Nice
though you really should re-direct the blame towards Eli.
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
He deserves it...
The italics last week, no subject lines for mobile users, and all spelling and grammar errors are definitely all Eli’s fault.
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not to mention
the Saints losing to the Rams = Eli
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Aw..Shucks JP...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Eli would be MVP
If there were no Aaron Rodgers.
Personally I’m looking forward to a week of “Eli is as good as Brady this year” stories.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
That happened in the offseason
no inseason press for how good the Giants are, that would ruin BSPNs image
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
QB Comparison first 117 games including playoffs
QB A Record 64-53
QB B 68-49
QB C 68-49
Anyone care to guess the identity of each QB?
I agree with this article 100%
The biggest problem is the run blocking. The O-line is atrocious.
One down one to go.
Our special teams appears to be fixed. Now its our running games turn to get fix,
once that’s done, Super Bowl here we come.
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