Weekly QBR Review: Another Top 10 Game For Eli Manning
by Ed Valentine on Oct 3, 2011 12:02 PM EDT
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If you watched the game Sunday, you know that New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning was brilliant in the final 5:20 of Sunday's 31-27 come-from-behind victory over the Arizona Cardinals. Manning was seven-for-eight for 126 yards and two TDs in the that stretch, and overall 27-of-40 for 321 yards. Using ESPN's new QBR system, Eli scored a 79.2 -- eighth-best in the league on Sunday.
To be honest, I'm not sure how much better Manning could have played. Aside from the one fumble I don't know how much more he could have done. Using traditional passer ratings, Manning had a 108.4 rating on Sunday.
For the season, Manning is eighth in the league overall with a QBR of 68.9.
Slice it any way you want, since halftime of the St. Louis game game (the second of the season) Manning has been tremendous.
By the way, you might get a kick out of this note. New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez scored a pitiful 0.6 QBR Sunday, the worst of any quarterback in the league.
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The fumble hurt his QBR, right?
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
by Nine Inch Nails on Oct 3, 2011 12:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
majorly. He got a -3.1 SACK EPA because of it. By far the lowest among the top 25 QBs for the week.
Oh well.
Only thing holding him back in teh season rankings is this “sack EPA” which he has a -8.9
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 3, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He got the W
And that’s the only stat that matters. You can play like a game of Madden and put numbers up like Vick and DeSean Jackson did, but if it doesn’t play into fundamentals and a victory, what the hell does it matter? It is nice to see Eli playing well though. I always have my faith in him, especially yesterday.
Romo wasn't 1st?
Huh, weird…
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
still above average
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Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah uh
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Oct 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he had a 55.0 QBR this week. 50 is average.
So while I think it is disgusting…apparently he was above average.
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 3, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That's fair
He had an unbelievable first half…and then had a horrid second half.
Evens out to be about average. I just wish the “clutch factor” was more prevalent, cause if it was…Romo’s right down there with Sanchez.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose. Maybe I'm just more elitist than most.
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"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that that could be their explanation
But, for some reason I don’t see anything average with throwing 2 pick-6’s enroute to blowing a 24 point lead in the 2nd half.
You’re right, that has to counter the things he did well in the 1st half a lot more IMO.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Oct 3, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm no Romo fan
he was to blame on the INT part of the first pick 6 but someone needs to make a tackle. That was LBer weaving his way to the TD
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
THAT SAID
is there a more overrated overhyped player in the league than Romo? Finally someone in the media is jumping off the Romo wagon. D Sanders ripped him.
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sanchez is quite overrated as well
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 3, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
he might only be overrated by jets fans and espn
most football fans i’ve interacted with in real life or online think he sucks.
I'm a bit disappointed in that rating...
Eli scored 3 4th quarter TD’s, and the QBR is supposed to favor clutch performances.
Not to mention that the fumble wasn’t Eli’s fault. There wasn’t a damn thing he could do about that.
IMHO, Eli has been the best QB in the league the last 10 quarters. Rogers may have put up better numbers, but he also has a better and more solid supporting cast. What could Eli do with Finley and a gelled line?
Whoa,
How can we be so schizophrenic about Eli? He’s played really well lately (or is it his receivers making him look really good lately?), but best in the league? Come on. Aaron Rodgers has been nearly flawless all year. I like Eli, but be realistic.
I'd put Eli as the 3rd best QB this year
behind Rodgers and Brady. Perhaps tied with Brees and Stafford. But not lower. Not higher.
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 3, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I like this… Brady and Rodgers are playing “godlike”… Eli is playing “elite” along with Brees.
I disagree with Stafford, I really like the kid, but if Romo doesnt have 2 pick 6’s Stafford doesnt really have a chance to come back in the game.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
So on weeks 9, 12 and 13
(NE, NO and GB) if the Giants defensive front is intact and they rip those three QBs a new sphincter muscle, does Eli become the god of QBs?
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
QB Rating
Interestingly, he is currently 3rd in the traditional QB ratings right now. Behind Rodgers and Brady.
by Midnight Blue on Oct 3, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli has taken alot of sacks
not that its necessarily bad, better to get sacked and punt than throw a pick. But QBR takes sacks into account.
Stafford completed only 50% of his throws yesterday.
That knocks him down, despite the incredible comeback.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
Well Romo threw as many Detroit td passes
as stafford did
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Well said sir!
And Stafford and Alex Smith, the two guys who beat our rivals, have combined for 7 TD passes. Our boy has 8 all by his damn self. :-)
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
is it his receivers making him look really good lately
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
some people just wont let it go...
Refuse to believe that Eli is a really freaking good QB.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
I think it's at least part his receivers making him look good.
Look at the pass to Cruz last week. It easily could have gone the other way and we’d be blasting him for a poor decision throwing to Cruz in double coverage. The first touchdown to Nicks this week was thrown straight to the defender, but Nicks made an awesome play.
Last year, a ton of his picks were off of receivers hands or when they ran wrong routes, and we still blamed him for it.
It always takes both the quarterback and the receivers playing well to look good.
here we go again.
…. some people man.. some people…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
all receivers make their QBs look good
and vice versa. You don’t think Welker getting wide open and Gronkowski being a monster of a man make Brady look good? Greg Jennings and the Packers receivers have football magnets on their hands…that doesn’t make Rodgers look good?
There’s no single way around it. You’re going out of your way to bash Eli here. His receivers are good, but its no doubt that Eli makes his receivers as much as any QB in the league and vice versa.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I won't believe in Eli. . .
until he can complete passes to his own LBzzzz
THEN we’ll see what he’s really made of!
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Who's bashing Eli?
I think he’s a good QB. Definitely in the top half of the league. I think he was a good QB last year. I thought he was a good QB in the first two games of this year, and I think he was a good QB in the last two games this year.
All I’m arguing for is a little perspective. It seems that people go from saying he’s terrible to saying he’s the best in the league in two weeks!
that is for BBV wagon jumpers
they only come out when they believe they can say what they believe without fear of ridicule…
Most of the Mainstays here believe Eli is a good – great QB, that makes everyone around him better.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
True to a point...for me at least
Eli is a very good QB, but like all QB’s he does have his moments. You have to be able to take and handle some critisism in order to get better at anything in life. We all here at BBV know most try to hate on Eli, especially the media. Sometimes it isn’t even the QB’s fault on certain calls, the O Coordinator has to call plays that fit his QB’s strengths not weaknessess.
by oldschoolblue64 on Oct 3, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You just have to get used to the fact
that there are a number of people who won’t accept any criticism of Eli, no matter how mild or how rational. It’s the whole Eli won the superbowl mind set.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Oct 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but after every bad game
all the people that cant stand him… come out and stop chirping…
Perspective as a whole is lost in these types of forums…
The people that continuously post and are part of the discussions are the most level headed people in the world..
For instance, before the start of the season, I claimed the Eagles would not make the Playoffs, that the redskins had the best chance of taking thier spot… I had support from everyone that constantly posts here, and was getting ripped on by people I have never seen before…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Yea this
When there’s people ripping on Eli, I naturally assume the worst (i.e. zillag). So sometimes something said mildly can be completely misinterpreted into something more.
Tis the internet
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I don't
have the Eli won the SB mind set. I simply think that Eli takes lots of criticism than he deserves. Fans and media look at the 25 INTs last season at face value. As if all 25 were Eli’s fault. Brees threw 22 INTs and we heard very little about it in the media.
I’ll never forget the ESPN’s recap of the Giants season open game last season vs Carolina
“Giants win despite 3 INTs by Eli”. No mention that at least one was off his WR hands.
No one was saying he was terrible
and no one said he’s best in the league, just best in the 4th Q. To get perspective, lets have some perspective.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
He's definitely very good, just below elite status.
In the last 21/2 games he has played at elite level. I also thing there’s a subtle difference ion the way he presents himself recently, projecting calm, unruffled confidence Also, taking more of a leadership role, etc. I liked the way he consoled Cruz after his bonehead play.
What the hell does any of this matter any more
He’s playing very well, no bonehead mistakes, more relaxed up to and in excess of his ability. Can’t we just believe that he will continue in this manner?
I will always qualify myself as an Eli questioner (not hater) and since the 2nd half of the Ram’s game I have had zero reasons to question anything about his performance. Let’s just go for the ride he is taking his team and his fans on. It’s like being on the highway in a 1965 Cadilac convertable on a sunny day.
It’s a class ride.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
b-b-but. . . he didn't hold enough off season workouts!
not a leader
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
aaaannnndddd
he didnt restucture his contract = not a leader
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
yeah
receivers always play a part in making the qb look good (and vice versa). Having a great receiver is going to give a QB a greater margin of error on his throws. But if Eli is only a product of his receivers than so is Rodgers, Schaub, Brees, Romo, Vick, Stafford, Henne, Rivers, Ryan, Big Ben, Cam Newton, Kolb, Cassell, Dalton, Sanchez, and anyone else who has a great receiver to throw to.
Eli has made alot of receivers look good.
Every damn receiver that steps on the field with him ends up producing great numbers, being apart of a top 10 offense for several years now, and winning alot more than losing.
Eli makes this offense go.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
and only certain people are schizophrenic on Eli
I know I and plenty of others have thought he’s a very good QB this whole time.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Does Schizogenic count?
or schitzoid? How about charactor disordered? Mayby certain people suffer from tourette’s syndrome (erppp—BIG TITS). I do see what you did there Ror.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Yes, let's be realistic.
It sure ain’t his Wrs making him look good. Talking about being realistic.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 3, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
How is Romo ahead of Eli for the season?
He’s blown two games for the Cowboys. Talk about clutch.
by gatesoffire1178 on Oct 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
eli's first 2 games were, lets say so,so.
romo has looked stella in all 4 except of course at the end of 2.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
bottom line
1 qb is 3-1
the other is 2-2
Romo is definitely better
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, because obviously the rest of the team doesn’t play a role in that.
If you are going to use that argument, understand you are essentially saying the Cowboys are better but having Eli lets the Giants have a better record.
SMH.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
no we got the sarcasm
just when analyzing individual players, w/l doesn’t hold a lot of weight over a small sample size. Is hassellbeck as good as eli because both teams are 3-1?
I stand by what I posted
sarcasm or no sarcasm.
Teams are measured by wins and losses. How they get there doesn’t matter. Romo has played fantastic for 10 quarters. He’s a super hero. But the Boys are only 2-2 in a large part because Romo helped give 2 games away.
I wasn’t comparing Eli to Hasslebeck or any other QB. I was comparing Eli to Romo. Romo has a large enough ‘sample size’ to know he has the tendency to help lose games the Cowboys should win.
For the record Eli > Romo
Romo has had great #s in 3 of the 4 games . Eli 2 of 4. hence my answer to this question.
How is Romo ahead of Eli for the season?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
ive never seen 2 QBs in the same (good weather)game look soo bad .
Mark Sanchez 11 -35 119yd 0 TD 1Int.
Joe Flacco 10 -31 163yd 0 TD 1 Int.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
his own team wont resign him
until he shows that next step…Something tells me, the Ravens are secretly going to take Luck.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Flacco is a very good QB.
And the Ravens will resign him. Take it to the bank
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
I'm pretty sure the highest rated receivers
were defenders
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Another big game for Eli...
I like to take shots at the Jets but Sanchez had no chance last night. He’s lucky he got out of there alive!!! I’ve never seen Oline play that bad in my life!!
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
by bleedblue12 on Oct 3, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Credit where it's due
Not a big Eli fan, but he is playing well. Every QB misses a few throws, but he’s not making the terrible decisions that he made a habit of last year and in game 1. Hope he can keep this up.
forgive me but I find it difficult to take anybody serious with the sig name of "Pretty Tony"
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
what terrible
decision did he make in game 1? Oh you mean the play when Mac didnt block his man. The DE batted the ball for a pick 6. That was a poor decision how?
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Cruz conundrum
Full Coverage of the play, the call and the aftermath…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PnjhKFPZFQ
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 3, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
and you can clearly say
the refs made the right call.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
*see
you can clearly see….jesus I am rusty..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
and you can see why he thought he was touched...
21 walked right in front of him.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
surprisingly
most of the media talking heads agree with the call
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Take a look at the end of the video...
It looks like Eli has a little heart-to-heart with manningham, probably gave some words of encouragement to Manningham based on his shakey route-running and game. Love the leadership there by Eli….
I caught that too...
looked like he was giving him good words! Mark my words, MM will have some great plays this year and he will be counted on and he will deliver.
He might be a little squirrely, be he can play, he has proved that.
by oldschoolblue64 on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He might be a little squirrely
I dont know what that means but it sure sounds like him.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
1. Used to describe someone of questionable character.
2. When a person loses his or her mental stability
3. mildly insane
4. unpredictable and jumpy, often in a cowardly way
5. nutty; resembling a squirrel looking for nuts
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Geez
I’ve been paying so much attention to the cruz catch fumble/gaveself up that I didn’t even notice that Eli had another Houdini moment. Unbelievable
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The last time I used the term 'conundrum' I was young and drunk..I picked this chick up and she wanted to
have sex…I said: "Olkay bay..lets me go to the mens room sos I can buy a ‘conundrum’..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LOL
Good to have u back Bobbi.
The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.
by Handsome Stranger on Oct 4, 2011 8:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am impressed that
everyone is chipping in a little. Seems like someone different steps up every week, which is a great thing.
Special teams still scare me and I still have questions about how good our OL is.
Eli has been playing well, though.
And, we got a good return performance as Osi played well.
If we can just get healthy, we may really be dangerous.
However, Quinn must depart.
Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...
Everybody take a deep breath
I like Eli and, yes, Eli’s played well. I love that he’s focused on making better decisions.
But we have long experience with the guy. More than once we’ve thought he was going to take that next step up on the ladder, only to see him regress. For years we’ve had the discussion, “which Eli is going to show up, good Eli or bad Eli.” These facts don’t go away with a couple good games.
Again, great job so far this season. Overall, I still think he’s a very good QB. I’m not putting him in the elite category (which i define as a small handful, say, 1-5) until i see this performance relatively consistently for him.
by NorthwestFan on Oct 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We know we can win a Super Bowl with him
That’s all I need to know about the guy.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 3, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Add to this wisdom:
We know he can lead his team down the field, with the championship on the line, and put them in the end zone when it’s TD or bust.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
Damn, I think I hit the flag by mistake....sorry North
but I do agree with every word of your post.
Quinn must go !!
Numbers are just numbers...
as long as Eli can continue to play like he did in the 4th qtr of Arizona’s game and in the second half of the Philly game then we are golden. Keep playing with good decision making, no TO’s, and a little luck then Eli should be fine. He turned in a ho hum performance yesterday into a great one. Just keep building week after week, especially after good wins!
I like how he alluded to his own 'silly' mistakes of 'falling forward'
I thankfully don’t ever expect him to make THAT mistake again.
But to be honest, I still expect him to make some sort of bonehead play from time to time, like ‘oh crap, he pulled another Eli’
give it a rest
he basically has played every down in every game. That’s roughly 1200 play each season and you’re goint to nit pick over a handful of ‘bonehead’ plays? You dont think other QBs make boneheaded plays? They do. As Giants fans we dont watch every play of the other 31 teams. Go read the blogs of other teams. They have boneheaded plays too.
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ronnie brown
play is as boneheaded as it gets.
by GMen56-11 on Oct 3, 2011 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Eli is showing more discipline
on the field. Hopefully he will continue his growth in disciplined tactics: lose a battle to gain a chance at winning the war.
If he can become, not just a play-making quarterback, but also a tactical one, he will achieve elite status.
His interaction with Manningham and Cruz was confident leadership.
Eli is growin’ up.
Mark Sanchez scored a pitiful 0.6 QBR Sunday, the worst of any quarterback in the league.
LOL The Sanchize.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
What cracked me up was Sexy Rexxy
throwing tantrums on the fumble call.
Sure, argue with the refs but once the call is over, move on and try to help your team win.
Since he has all his feet in his mouth all the time, he should put his wife’s feet in there too. Then we would not have to listen to the hiss of air coming out of that blimp called Rexxy.
But the media keeps treating Sanchize like an elite QB. Thus far, he sucks and someone needs to say it.
Let it be me.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 3, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds about right. His first 2 games were decent, and the last two have been great. I believe he should maybe be a spot or two higher, but 8 sounds good to me at this point.
For a few years now I’ve firmly believed that Eli is in the 5-10 range, and he looks to be proving that for another year.
The term elite doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a subjective way of creating a categorizing method.
Eli is what he is. A Top 10, and potentially top 5 QB.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
well...to be fair...sometimes luck does count for something
yesterday Nicks’ had that ball get pin balled around the ARZ secondary but it landed on the turf…no harm no foul.
the other week Vic Cruz let’s a ball hit him in the chest and it bounces up in the air what felt like an eternity…but…found the turf.
I thought Osi’s swat sack was going to get recovered by ARZ, but sure enough, the ball takes a bounce and ends up being covered by white and red.
luck counts.
btw, i like how they wore the same colors they did when they played there in the SB. I too was wearing those colors….
TeamJPP
was it '09?
vs the same cardinals that the giants were mounting a late game comeback but AB fumbled the ball and it was NOT recovered by the Giants?
TeamJPP
Yup, in the Meadowlands
I think we lost 24-17
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
remember that luck stat that came out in the summer??
Eli was the unluckiest QB in the league last year… Law of averages dictates that he should be one of the luckiest this year.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
It's better to be lucky than good
When the game is based off an oblong shaped ball, anything can happen
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Aaron Rodgers is a MONSTER!!!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Yeah I think that is why we're..
Planning a manned mission to Mars..This guy is definitely from another planet..They should give him an MRI to see if he has a corked arm…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
corked arm...yes
with a laser guidance system.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Great sum up.
I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it. - Justin Tuck
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Oct 3, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
But
Eli sucks
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 3, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
According to the current QB Ratings, out of the top 3 he sucks the most.
I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it. - Justin Tuck
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Oct 3, 2011 7:00 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I love this friggin article.
Keep it up little bro.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 31 ARZ 20
How many of those rated higher than Eli are 3-1???
How many won their games yesterday?…What counts more than QBR?..WINNING does that’s what..as much as he drives me nuts sometimes that guy has undaunting nerves of steel…Nothing makes him panic… nothing…that’s why he can make these awesome come from behind performances..His calm keeps the whole group calm which is what you need when your backs are up against the wall.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Instead of a QBR rating they should have a WTFG rating..
WTFG – Won the fucking game – rating
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Oct 3, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love it when Ex Ryan puts his wifes foot in his mouth..
Sanchez stinks
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I meant Rex Ryan...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Gmen's great (and fortunate) comeback overshadowed Manning's horrific start
remember Eli going ~ 2 for 7 11 years early in the game?
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