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New York Giants News And Notes: Saturday Morning Edition

Wake up, New York Giants' fans! It's a sleepy Saturday, but we're here bright and early bringing you some news and notes about your favorite team.

Herzlich To Be Profiled On '60 Minutes'

Giants rookie linebacker Mark Herzlich, a bone cancer survivor, will be profiled Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes," which airs from 7-8 p.m. Correspondent Byron Pitts recently spent time with Herzlich for the story.

Herzlich was diagnosed with Ewing's sarcoma, a rare form of bone cancer, in 2009, as he prepared for his senior season at Boston College. The ACC Defensive Player of the Year, in 2008, Herzlich missed the 2009 season while undergoing treatment. He returned to start all 13 games for the Eagles last season and made the Giants as an undrafted free agent this year. Herzlich has three special teams tackles this season.

"He's a football player. He's dedicated. He's smart. He learns very quickly," Coughlin told 60 Minutes. "And he earned it primarily on his special teams play and his intelligence. You tell him one time what to do and he does it."

Herzlich said, "I just got to prove I can help this team win. They asked me to come here because they wanted to see if I could play football and not see if I was over my cancer."

Star-divide

Tittle on being Eli's backup: 'Backup? Hell!' - Giants Blog - ESPN New York
Watch your back, Eli. A former Giants legend is coming for your job.

At practice Friday, coach Tom Coughlin asked Y.A. Tittle, who was visiting for the day, if he could still back up Eli Manning.

"Backup? Hell!" Tittle told Coughlin.

"He still thinks he's a starter," Coughlin said.

Tittle, 85, retired after the 1964 season with seven Pro Bowl selections, three All-Pro selections and the 1963 AP NFL MVP award. He played for the Colts, Giants and 49ers. The only thing missing from his Hall of Fame résumé? A championship. 

Giants' Running Game Can't Get Started - NFC East Blog - ESPN

Trouble getting started: According to the ESPN Stats & Information Group, a big part of the New York Giants' problems running the ball this year have had to do with what happens before their running backs ever get hit. SIG's "next level" stats show that the Giants, who are averaging 3.3 yards per carry this season after averaging 4.6 yards per carry over the previous three seasons, are only gaining 1.6 yards per rush before initial contact. The league average of yards per carry before contact is 2.4, and only the Cleveland Browns (1.3) have a lower number in this category than the Giants do in 2011. Makes you think that maybe Ahmad Bradshaw's complaints about the offensive line weren't far off. 

Travis Beckum's chances to form connection with Eli Manning in NY Giants' offense running thin

Travis Beckum knows his stat line as well as anyone. Six games into what was supposed to be his eakout season, the Giants’ tight end has exactly one catch for two yards. 

With wideout Ramses Barden now poised to return either this Sunday or next week, Beckum is aware that he is running out of chances to carve a niche on this team. But the third-year tight end still believes he needs just one more opportunity to make a serious impact. 

"It is depressing," Beckum said. "But that’s life. The thing that’s a positive about my negative situation is there’s still so much more that I can do that I haven’t been able to show. It would be a totally different story if I wasn’t playing and I had had the opportunity, if I had had 10 balls thrown at me and I didn’t catch them."

Brandon Jacobs knew the Redskins luck would run out | ProFootballTalk

When Brandon Jacobs wasn't complaining about his role with the Giants during an interview with Men's Fitness, he was reveling in the struggles of his NFC East rivals in Dallas and Philadelphia."They have a lot of talent and they're very well coached, but it's so thrilling for me to see the Eagles and Cowboys lose like they've been doing. It's so refreshing," Jacobs said.

Even though the Redskins soundly defeated the Giants in the opener, Washington's recent struggles don't come as a surprise to Jacobs.

"Washington, fortunately they started losing; I knew their luck would run out sooner or later," Jacobs said.

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Boy I get frosted..

Whenever Jacobs opens his big mouth…He defines ‘idiocy’..and the only person who thinks he is a good RB is the one he sees in the mirror…I really wish they would make him go away..
Beckum..I feel bad for the guy but he’s a broken record every week its the same BS from this guy about his performance…bring in Barden and perhaps another team would help Beckum in the long haul..
The problem with both these guys is we won’t get doodley-squat for them in a trade…maybe a 150th pick in the 2019 draft…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 7:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Just think of the things we could do with that pick...

Tied for Top of the BBV fantasy league! Team Figging lives on

by ChuckyofNorris on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jacobs is a good back

And I think the Giants would be better if they gave him a bigger share of the carries and took some of the load off Bradshaw.

Every time Jacobs has been asked to do it, he has done it. He was a better back than Bradshaw was last year after he wore down. Period.

The Giants are not using him enough, I understand his gripes as a franchise player and don’t understand the amount of negativity on this board about him. He is a competitor. Rolle runs his mouth like a faucet on purpose, makes more mistakes than any player on this team, grades out negative and is beloved by many on this board… Jacobs mumbles to a magazine and is crucified.

Whatever.

by dubsrub on Oct 29, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

+27

who cares if he runs his mouth.

The guy is not a trouble maker, he doesn’t throw his teammates under the bus, and IMO he’s right. He had a better Yards per carry ave. than most of the NFL last season. He is a good back, and does deserve more carries.

But our offense is what it is right now, pass heavy. So there are limited opportunities for Jacobs.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 29, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not most of the NFL

99% of the NFL. Only one was better (charles).

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Oct 29, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

"this was supposed to be Beckem's eak out season"

May be a typo but it is still right on.

by Madhops on Oct 29, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Shaping up to be an eak out season.

As in, he will eak out like 5 catches over the entire 2011 campaign.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Running Game

I was actually going to comment on that ESPN article talking about the running game stats yesterday. I think that pinpoints the biggest problem we are having. It’s not just that there are not holes, it’s that we have guys in the backfield and right on the line hitting our backs before they can even get moving. Both for Bradshaw and Jacobs. I’ll say it again, Bradshaw might have had 100 yards last game but he still had a bad yards per carry and 30 of those yards came on 1 play. We need to get this running game going full speed again.

And I still like Jacobs alot and have no problems with his comments about the Redskins, just like I had no problems with Chris Cooley’s about the Cowboys earlier this year. It’s nice to see players actually seem to care about division rivals rather than the generic “Oh, well I hope the Cowboys, Redskins, and Eagles the best all year and hope they all have a great season!” dreck that has become so common in the NFL.

by Midnight Blue on Oct 29, 2011 7:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah,

how many different ways can the running game’s failures be explained (hint- Eli isn’t one of them).

If James Carville (Bill Clinton’s ‘93 Campaign manager) were the HC of the Giants, there would be a message chalked up on the blackboad: IT’S THE O-LINE STUPID
And please, don’t write “What?” if you reply just google “it’s the ecconomy stupid”

Give BJ four foot holes to run through at the line and he will return to his greatness. Otherwise it will be sour grapes. And who can blame him. This is a self described-“run first” team that passes first and often.
A perfect example of how this team is not a running team was the Seatle game. We predictably ran the ball on almost every 1st down and we got bubkis on every one of those 1st downs. As TC must have said “WE LOST THE F*%KING GAME BECAUSE WE COULDN’T RUN THE BALL!!!!”
Can you imagine that the 6 yards we might have gained on that intercepted pass to Cruz at the end of the game would have been better gained by having Jacobs run off tackle. Hell, he would have had 12 yards. Just give him the hole.

‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
JPP IS the Kraken. He shall be released.
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Oct 29, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carville

I love Imus’s nickname for him when his wife Mary Matalin comes on his show as a guest. He asks her how “Serpent Head” is doing. Is that perfect, or what?

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Oct 29, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!..Carville doesn't need a wool cap in the winter..

Just a provalactic…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha!

He does tend to spew when he gets worked up.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Oct 29, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice one blue.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is okay for us Football Heads..

Who suffer from concussive symptoms after years and years of banging our heads against the walls whenever our team did/does bad, and suffer from terminal ‘beer farts’ to publicly voice our joy, and jump up and down until we shit our pants..over our opponents miseries….but not a professional player who is in the same GD division and who he has to play against..and anyone out here that doesn’t think that the shit that he vomits about the other teams doen’t motivate them, then your nuts..Shut the hell up Brandon!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

just call me Macadamia

I don’t see how any of what he said really makes blackboard material. Big Boy is honest; to a fault sometimes. He loves his job, and He loves his team…even if he does want more carries, how can any of this be bad?

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Oct 29, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Any Coach from Pee-wee to Pro cringes at stuff like that..

And a Coach that does it is the worst…that’s why ’ol Rex is watching his 2011 Super Bowl champs get their butts kicked.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see it more as a karma thing

I think when players talk a bunch of shit the football gods make bad things happen. Play the game on the field not in the media. Rex Ryan loses 2 AFC Championship games. Tom Brady laughs off the Giants defense before SB42. Eagles start this year 2-4. The examples are endless. Of course, there are probably just as many examples of players talking shit and then backing it up.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 29, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...Big mouths cause unwanted motivation for an opponent...

Two players that come to mind that backed up their their crap tossing was LT and Ray Lewis..but they tossed their shit-turds during the game..Not in interviews with Rolly-poly media morons…those obes steno armed macro-phobes take that shit and voila!! You have a ‘Brandon Jacobs Blimp’ circling oposing teams stadiums…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yippity-dippity-do!!..Look at me!!!

The media pumped 2000 cubic feet of air up my ass!!..Now I’m floating above Verterans stadium with my King Kong mouth gaping and blowing out giant smoke farts in the air so I can write messages in the air..“Ha ha You Suck”…“It’s a dog’s life”..“E-gals”….I’m heading for Dallas next to drop Bull-ball sacks on the fans..Then it’s off to Washington ..to fart out Foreskins at Shanahan whose eyelids were circumsized so he can’t blink…Yahoo!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

that was rather epic, bobbie

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 29, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is akin to the lets not provoke the terrorists by killing their leader

crap that popped up, when they shot Bin Laden.

Lets not provoke them because they might then want to beat us. They already want to beat us, Jacobs is ripping them, it’s good to see he has a healthy disliking for the divisional opponents. It gets kind of old when it’s all respect, respect, respect.

Good to see some of them actually share our feelings for the opponent.

And, yeah I get it the comparison is way over the top…. but still accurate

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 29, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

You make a good point

I just think that with certain individuals who may not have the best work ethic shouldn’t be given a reason to study more film or take practice more seriously.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 29, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jacobs has been like that since day one.

I love it. Now just open a hole for the man so he can get to the second level and break some faces.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jacobs with fresh legs...

Last year Jacobs did much better as Ds became worn down and he was used more heavily latter in the season. I assume this year will be the same. In one game I think Jacobs works best to start and Bradshaw to finish (debatable, however) in a full season I say save Jacobs for later when its cold and people hurt more. Hopefully he won’t run off so much at the mouth that he never gets his chances to shine and bulldoze linebackers.

by bocabart on Oct 29, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Yupper.

Make a hole for 27. Then just hold on to the damn ball please.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as Tuck plays they'll be fine.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 29, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be nice to see..

Hopefully ‘Puff Farts’ unleashes the fury on Moore..Make him a Bobble-Head Doll..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Puff Farts!

that’s great.

I’ve recently taken to calling him, Radio.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 29, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

OH. MY. GOD.

He does look like Radio, holy crap.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"

"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."

by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 29, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!...Now we just need to know what station he's broadcasting from..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

niceeeee

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 29, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's so GD funny.

Radio… Good movie, BTW

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

they better be fine

If Tuck JPP and Osi all take the week off. This Dolphin team is a joke.

by Madhops on Oct 29, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

they've been competitive in nearly every game

it would be a joke to think you don’t need your team against a team just cuz they’re winless.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 29, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely correct..the Dolphins away record is impressive and very competitive..

They are currently a bunch of pissed off Pro football players..If we leave the door ajar they’ll gladly blow through it..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah somebody mentioned that yesterday..

Apparently his foot is still sore..I believe the Patriot game was the target for his return..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

twas.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"

"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."

by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 29, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

sucks

I’m super anxious to see this kid on the field.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 29, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our buddy Pat Hanlon

says Barden is in amazing shape and gonna be a beast.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 29, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I think I found my new signature
Herzlich said, “I just got to prove I can help this team win. They asked me to come here because they wanted to see if I could play football and not see if I was over my cancer.”

How can you not root for this guy

"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs

by Just J on Oct 29, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

That is a great story..Good for him..I hope he has a great NFL career with the Giants..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

..by the way..did you look at his eyeballs in this picture?...

What’s that guy do?..Punch himself in the eyes before the game to get psyched?

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

when the play calling is predictable, the defense has an edge and gets that extra 1 yard step on the offense.

Shoot the puck Barry!!!

by dsteak on Oct 29, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Beckum isn't going to get his opportunity with the Giants

It’s very disappointing.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 29, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

You never know

If Ballard gets a little injury that keeps him out one week, maybe he still gets one more crack at showing us all the flashes of promise they’ve been seeing in practice. it’s damn frustrating for us fans, to keep hearing he’s got talent and then it NEVER shows up when he finally gets a few reps. Then he pulls his hammy getting off the toilet and it’s back to waiting for Godot again.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Oct 29, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see how Ballard will ever get hurt..

He’s built like a brick shithouse with a wrecking ball for a head…First time I saw him take his helmet off he scared the shit out me..“AAAHHHH!!! Waht the hell is that?!?!”

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He looks like K Boss’s evil twin brother.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Oct 29, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say he isn't getting more opportunities

He has had some over the 3 years and thus far, HE has been very disappointing.

If Ballard continues to do well and stay healthy, I don’t care about Beckum at all.

Potential is just that, potential.

Next.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 29, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda view Beckum like a Ed McCaffrey...

McCaffrey sucked for us and went on to Denver and excelled..Beckum may very well just need another team to jump-start his career..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I view him as Cedric Jones

High hopes. No production. Eli targets Ballard b/c he gets open. Beckem doesn’t. (or he trips on his own 2 feet. Just b/c a guy is pretty in his uni doesn’t make him a player.

by Madhops on Oct 29, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I am still baffled at

Why did we draft a player who could see from one eye only (Cedric Jones)?

New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Oct 29, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

McCaffrey didn't suck for us

He was underutilized. When he was a Giant, they were a run-first team. They didn’t throw the ball a lot. He went to Denver, where all they did was throw the ball with John Elway (until Terrell Davis showed up).

by Jonnyteach on Oct 29, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree with you that we were a run first..

Team and passing was second to the run back then..McCaffrey did suck..When they did throw he couldn’t catch a ball if you ran down the field and handed it to him..that is why they got rid of him..If he was any good they would have kept him..he wasn’t good.
The point here with Beckum is we do have a substantial passing attack these recent years, and he sucks…so they need to get rid of him….

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 30, 2011 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing that cracks me up is some opinions on Ballard..

People have said he has been a disappointment as a blocker..Ha!!!..When they are sending downfield running pass routes, how the hell is he gonna be able to block??..They don’t even have a chip block play for him where he knocks a rusher off balance prior to taking off on a route..but he’s the real deal…Beckum can’t block, can’t catch, and can’t seem to even stay healthy…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 30, 2011 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beckum has three targets on the season

That’s three targets in four games. If that’s what you call an opportunity, then we have a different of opinion.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 29, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

*difference

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 29, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about last year and the year before?

I know he was injured some. It is a cruel world, you don’t get many chances. He had some chances and did not produce. He is also having difficulty running the correct routes as professed by the coaches. That does not help him.

He might do well with another team, who knows. What I know are results and he has not produced to date with his somewhat limited chances.

In my opinion, it is time to move on. If he has some magical revival with us, all the better but I would not expect it nor put energy into it.

So we do have a difference.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 29, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you criticizing him for his first two seasons?

Beckum was the 2nd TE on a team that didn’t like to throw to even the 1st TE. You’re can’t be serious.

Has he made the most of his opportunities? No. But there haven’t been many to speak of either.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 29, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look man..your barking at the wrong argument..

If Eli and Beckum hooked up all week in practice and Eli grew confident in his ability, he’d be in the game and Eli would be sending bullets his way..Eli has no confidence in him, hence he won’t see many if any balls tossed his way..period..Eli is in charge of getting in synch and confident with his receivers…It is his choice from there who he throws to and when..and a game is not the time to test a guy out..that would be assinine..It’s like Oh, you suck in practice all week, but I’m throwing to you a dozen times this week..Sorry Nicks..sorry MM..sorry Ballard I’m throwing the ball to Beckum all day until he does something positive..Sorry about losing the game, but he’s worth it…please spare me this nonsense..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Bobbi

Rarely are you lucid :) but this was well said. However, Ghost, R44 and all the other Beckum lovers don’t like facts and results. All of them have hopes for Beckum, unrequited but always alive. That is until the Giants cut him. And then if he succeeds elsewhere, we will be wrong.

Bottom line, he has done nothing for us to date. Ballard got a chance and made the most of it. Beckum has squandered his multiple chances. Those are the facts, accept them or not.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 29, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Unknown..man I'm always Loop-ed!!

I took up Loop-ed in the Air Force..I’m a bonified Loop-ed kinda a guy..Ooops you said Lucid…Oh sorry..that’s a whole different thing right there..haha!!
But I agree with you on Beckum..In fact I agree with alot of your comments and points you make..He just isn’t going to get it done, ever with the Giants..He’s taking up a roster spot we need for Barden..If we could cut Tom Quinn and bring Barden up, then I’d give Beckum more time…but you can’t replace an inept dopey coach for a player..I do wish Beckum well, like I said earlier..McCaffrey became a star in Denver..maybe Beckum can somewhere else..The coaches have no confidence in him, Eli has no confidence in him..and most importantly, when you listen or read what Beckum says, he has no confidence in himself..reading between his lines is easy..He needs a change of venue..I really do wish him well..and I’ll be as pissed as I was with McCaffrey when he excels on another team..but it ain’t happening in NY for the guy..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must tell you..

That ‘Lucid’ remark cracked me up..When I type on this site I’m like a Ron White..except I don’t dress as fancy and I don’t drink Scotch..I dress in jeans and drink cans of Budweiser..and unlike Ron White, who’s Scotch is really Apple juice, my cans of Bud are the real thing..Sometimes somebody will send me off on a nutty-ass tangent..So I just respond or comment accordingly..I have behaved since I came back from my self-imposed banning for nine months..I figured shit I’ll just ban ‘me’..why wait for somebody to ‘ban me’ for me..I’ll ‘ban’ me for them..save them the trouble of ‘banning me’..I haven’t got pissed yet this year since I ‘unbanned me’..Hopefully that will last another 10 games..but you can bet your ass on this..I’ll ‘ban me’ before anyone else has a chance to ‘ban me’..If you ‘ban’ yourself..it is easier to ‘un-ban’ yourself..you don’t have to go thru all that bullshit to get back on the site..Instead of reading site guidelines after reading a dumb-ass I’ve been ‘banned’ violation message, you just login and say Hi everybody..the nut is back!!..What’s been happening since I ‘banned’ me?..and the funny thing is not much at all since my ‘banning’..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he just looks lost

on routes when they do go to him he doesn’t look like he has any idea how to control his body.

That deep route was embarrassing. turned around way too early and was backpedalling for a ball that was(if he had just kept in stride) well thrown. then of course there was the 3rd and two when he ran a 1yd route and fell down when the ball came to him.

I just don’t see how this guy will ever be able to bring himself up to the speed of the NFL.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 29, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

people just love an easy way to criticize

its the Francesca effect.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 29, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he has done nothing with them

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way he plays

He shouldn’t get a chance in the lingerie football league. Beckem stinks. Period.

by Madhops on Oct 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Question

Am I going to need a box of tissues (for the wife, of course, wink ,wink) when we watch that 60 minutes piece on Herzlich?
And I think they ought to mention Chad Jones as well. These two are such an inspiration to working your ass off to beat incredible odds when life suddenly throws you a curveball the size of the moon.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Oct 29, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Against all odds...I don't know if I can watch..

Shades of Brian’s Song…with a happy ending..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

We all love a happy endings!

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Oct 29, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZING

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 29, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

10/29 and it's snowing

Unbelievable.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 29, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah its pretty strange

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 29, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow..snowing already??..I don't miss that...

My idea of a White Christmas is the warm beach…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

The stat on the Giants O-line

Really hits the nail on the head about what I’ve been saying about the Jacobs vs. Bradshaw argument. Bradshaw is average 4.0 yards per carry, despite this stats. That’s impressive to me.

Jacobs isn’t a good fit for the Giants right now because he needs to get going to be at his best. He gets hit and dropped like a ton of bricks.

Bradshaw fights for yardage, and turns two yard losses into two yard gains.

People have also said Bradshaw wore down at the end of last season and was less effective than Jacobs. I laugh at this. He average 3.9 yards per carry over his last four games. Don’t see how that’s an indictment of him not being able to run hard. He also caught 14 passes for 75 yards over that same stretch.

I think though, once (if) our offensive line picks up its play, Jacobs will be more effective. It’s good that he’s been limited thus far. We need him running hard into and through the playoffs.

by Max Schwager on Oct 29, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree with all of this except,

IMO, 44 did wear down at the end of the season. He did not run as hard and he was not as effective in the final 5 or sogames of the season.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with both you and tommy..

Jacobs needs a hole to get going..problem is defenses learned how to hit him low..that is why he has knee problems..and they found out quickly what he’ll do to you if you try to tackle him high..So he needs to run lower not upright..which has been his downfall..Bradshaw had a bad foot last year..So yes his production faded a bit..and it didn’t help with Eli throwing like a nuthead..This year is different..everybody is healthy now going into the tough part of the schedule..Tommorrow is just a warm-up scrimmage gameagainst a practice squad team which is what Miami is..and Eli is having a career year so far..I even wonder if Miami shows up for this beatdown..Oh, and before I forget..how many fumbles has Bradshaw made this year?..I don’t care what ESPNs ‘Payless’ says..we’re not frauds..The Moon and Stars are starting to align for us..My horoscope today said: Fuck’em, beat’em, win…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the same horoscope!

The Giants are certainly not frauds. And I was thinking about 44 today. I know he doesn’t have a lost fumble, but I think he put the ball on the ground once. I can’t remember for sure….

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

NYG 27 MIA 16

by tommy d. on Oct 29, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look back at our SB Championships..'86, '90...'2007...

Every four years… we’ll be ‘Lord of the Rings’ again in 2011…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course we went off course due to some dark years after Buffalo...

Ray Handlehisnuts..Dan Hives…That QB with the Dumbo ears (That ass didn’t ever need a mike in his helmet the only times he had to cover his ear holes was when they whispered at him too loud)..but we got back to reality football..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Oct 29, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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