New York Giants News And Notes: Back To Work Edition
by Ed Valentine on Oct 25, 2011 7:34 AM EDT
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PrintGood morning, New York Giants fans. Here are your Tuesday morning news and notes as the Giants get back to business in preparation for Sunday's game against the Miami Dolphins.
First-round pick Prince Amukamara said Monday that he is "almost 100 percent," but does not know if he will be on the field Sunday against the Dolphins. Coach Tom Coughlin did not sound optimistic about that saying only that Amukamara "did a little bit [Monday] and we will have to bring him along slowly."
Wide receiver Ramses Barden practiced Monday and said "There wasn't anything that I wasn't able to do." Barden (ankle) could come off the PUP list this week, and hopes to be part of the 53-man roster Sunday against Miami.
"I am preparing myself mentally and physically not only as if I am going to play but I am going to contribute. That is how I am trying to go into everything," Barden said. "The worst thing you can do is be unprepared and be given a full load of responsibility that you are not ready for. I am preparing myself for the full load of responsibilities."
Coming off bye, G-Men hope to avoid sleeping with Fish - NYPOST.com
Maybe it’s a good thing the Giants are playing the winless Dolphins this week. Not only because Miami could be mentally broken after a devastating overtime loss to Tim Tebow and the Broncos on Sunday, but also losing to such a team at home after a bye week would be utterly embarrassing.
"You don’t want to be that team that lets them win," Giants safety Kenny Phillips told The Post yesterday as the Giants gathered for the first time after a five-day layoff. "You say, ‘Kick a dog while he’s down.’ You definitely don’t want to wake them up."
Snee recovered from 'scary' concussion | New York Daily News
"I’ve been fortunate enough to not have one before, but it was scary," Snee said. "To think that you’re going to pass out on the field, the headaches, the week(-long) fog that I was in was not fun."
Snee probably made his situation worse by continuing to play after taking the initial hit to the head. At first he didn’t recognize that he might have suffered a concussion. Offensive linemen take shots to the head all the time. Snee said that at first he "was never dizzy," so this one didn’t seem to be all that much worse.
"I’ve never had one and I don’t know what it felt like," he said. "I just tried to stay out there for my team. I thought I had a headache. I’ve had headaches before. Later on when the dizziness and everything else hit me, I thought it was more serious."
Coming off bye, G-Men hope to avoid sleeping with Fish - NYPOST.com
Maybe it’s a good thing the Giants are playing the winless Dolphins this week. Not only because Miami could be mentally broken after a devastating overtime loss to Tim Tebow and the Broncos on Sunday, but also losing to such a team at home after a bye week would be utterly embarrassing.
"You don’t want to be that team that lets them win," Giants safety Kenny Phillips told The Post yesterday as the Giants gathered for the first time after a five-day layoff. "You say, ‘Kick a dog while he’s down.’ You definitely don’t want to wake them up. "
Dolphins 'unlikely' to fire coach before Giants game: report - NYPOST.com
Dolphins coach Tony Sparano’s job is safe for the time being, despite the team dropping to 0-6 with an 18-15 overtime loss to the Broncos on Sunday, the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported,
TE Jake Ballard making Giants forget Kevin Boss - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Seeing tight end Jake Ballard talking to a couple of reporters, New York Giants defensive captain Justin Tuck didn't hesitate to add to the conversation. "Fantasy Savior," Tuck said as he headed off to the shower after practice on Monday. While Ballard laughed about his new importance to fantasy league players, the truth is that the first-year player has become somewhat of a savior.
Jets' Plaxico Burress: 'I can't picture myself actually pulling the trigger' of a gun | NJ.com
Plaxico Burress admits now that the whole idea of carrying a gun into a nightclub that night in November of 2008 is pretty silly, in hindsight.
"When I look back at it, I say if I was to get into a situation where I had to use my firearm, would I actually pull it and use it — return fire, or shoot? Just the thought of that just gives you goosebumps to think about it," the Jets wide receiver said tonight at the annual Brady Center Gala in New York. "It was a false sense of security, because I can't picture myself actually pulling the trigger and shooting somebody."
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Can Barden Play Specials?
Would love to see him on the field. He gives us a big body in the red zone and would help on 3rd downs. We know he has talent. But to make him active means we probably deactivate one of our special teams guys for the game. Who would it be and who takes their spot?
Nooo!
Please don’t put him on ST. We just got the guy back and you wanna put him in potentially one of the most dangerous situations.Hes already shown that he can be quite injury prone. He’s a big body for red zone and possession; not a gunner. Lets use him correctly.
he's not injury prone, wtf?
One injury in his career, a shattered ankle. That would have happened to anyone in that situation. Jesus, people, he’s not injury prone. Injury prone would be repeatedly getting injured. He’s had one injury.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 25, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Its useless saying it
I keep saying it as well but people opinions won’t change on him. I guess some expected a guy from a AA school to come right in and beat out Smith, Nicks, Ham, Hixon for playing time. And then a broken ankle makes him a bust.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
no, no, no,
it makes him injury prone
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 25, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
when all else fails
Blame ELI for his “injuries”
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
First time in a row that he is injured
Our greatest QB of all time was ‘injury prone’ even while he was leading the league in consecutive starts
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Oct 25, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuttings too good
They ought to make him walk the plank
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
i almost feel bad for JJ12
i mean if he doesn’t do something this season or early next season we can see what his fate will be w/ fans.
TeamJPP
opinion has been set on him
since his preseason punt adventures
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Why?
He can only blame himself for not putting up "rookie of the year" numbers
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
He was not seeing playing time
The talk was he could not contribute on STs. They should have just played in WR. He is going to see playing time now and still will not play STs so what did they not play him in his rookie year when many of us were screaming to give him some play time for him to contribute and learn the pros at the same time.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
Sooner or later we have to see him on the field.
Preseason doesn’t count. I can’t think of a better time for him to play than against the Dolphins this week at home.
Team Blue chips:
Greg Jones,
Da Rel Scott,
JJ
JPP
J. Wlilliams
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Wow
Calm down. I was mistaken. I for some reason thought he was hurt during rookie season also. I’m a big Barden fan and just wanna see what he can do on the pro level.
by Truth_Juice on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
not your fault
you just happen to be the 789th person to post that he is injury prone. Nothing personal I am sure.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Oct 25, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Really Though
Can you give a roster spot to a guy thats there for red zone alley oops?
Most teams would never consider that, otherwise they all would have some 6-10 basketball player already signed….
Roster spots are too valuable to niche situational players, guys that make the team as backups contribute on Special Teams, and thats what has been holding Barden back.
The Jets made a guy that's there for red zone alley oops there #2 Wr. So yes.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
You're minimizing him
Yeah he’s an obvious short yardage threat, who says he isn’t a deep threat too. You should check his tape against Wisconsin. He just obliterated their DBs. He probably will never get that good as a pro, but his upside potl is way more than alley oops
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
College is not the NFL
Period.
All the guys drafted lit it up in college.
watch his college highlights anyway
Sometimes you really do see someone special. It may not translate, he was a small college receiver, and he needs more time than JPP did to learn the trade at this level. But he deserves investing a roster spot and coaching time on, I really do believe.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Explain Plaxico Burress.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Injury prone
It’s an incredibly brutal game. Everyone playing it is injury prone. All it takes is a misfortunate even like a lineman stepping on your leg the wrong way as your falling…
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
he's not really a ST contributor anyway
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
If my memory serves me correctly and sometimes it dosen't
Barden was in Tom’s doghouse because he was bad on special teams Which is not surprising considering his Lanky frame.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
he was pretty good as a gunner last season before he got hurt
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Would love to see prince playing against the Fins
But also don’t want him to aggravate any injury. Specifically, I think he needs some game experience before facing our stretch of good quarterbacks.
"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford
by pataroons on Oct 25, 2011 8:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
So the Eagles and Cowboys ddfans both think they're gonna win out
Oct 30: Cowboys at Eagles.
Dec 24: Eagles at Cowboys.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and predict both teams don’t win out.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
They'll win out
Both those losses will just be applied to the giants, dammit Eli
"The last proclamation out of Philly that meant anything was a Declaration in 1776"
"This is great. We usually get to play two regular season games before people tell us we aren't worth a s***." - Pat Hanlon the Twitter Champion
Hope springs eternal
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
They feel they need to win out
because they realize they are chasing a very good team who is leading the division right now.
Winning the rest of their games is the only chance they catch, and pass, the Giants.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
the idea that either of those teams could play a flawless 9 weeks of football is insane
plus yeah one team needs to lose each of those games
...must stop realist side from taking over....
I hope I’m wrong here, but we’ve seen this for the last few years. We may have a 2 or after this sunday a 3 game lead on some teams. But we seem to hate success and always start to stumble and the next thing you know, the Cowboys and Eagles are a game or more ahead of us.
We can blame it on a tough 2nd half of the year, but if you want to win another SB, you’ll always have to get through hard games.
even assuming we beat the phins. . .
the season really starts against the Pats.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
Listening to Philly radio now
“we all know Couglin didn’t win the super bowl, his won players don’t give him credit. The eagles are 2-4 but they should have 2 more wins so they are basiclly 4-2”
They are treating the Cowboy-Eagle game on Sunday like its the 2 greatest offenses in football going at it.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
*won = own
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, without the 2 pick 6es the Giants are 6-0
If if’s and buts were candy and nuts…
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I love that saying
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
SONS A B"S
We get no damn respect! :-)
Wish I had a pic of my man Rodney to post here….
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
this wk only
I can almost bring myself to wanting the Eggs to Win….give the Boys a div loss & halt their momentum ….as far as the Giants….I’m excited
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 25, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Eagles momentum would be a bad thing
How about they beat the cowgirls next time when they are already out of it?
by DieHardGiants on Oct 25, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I am big Eagles fan this week
Or anybody who ever is playing against Dallas. Ever. Favorite event in sports: A Giants win. Second favorite: A Dallas loss.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Oct 25, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No way. Lets get the Eagles one step closer to being a non-factor in the division race.
This is a no brainer if you ask me. Do we want 3 potential challengers, or 2, or 1? This is an easy question to answer.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
Barden
I have to ask this question? Who cares about this guy? He has showed almost nothing to date. A bigger need is having Prince get back with a chance to contribute to a part of the team that could use an effective body.
by Dave Rosenbluth on Oct 25, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions
Giants fans maybe?
Last season we were horrendous in the red zone and having Ramses theoretically would’ve been a huge boost. He has the size and jumping ability we lost with Plax. And I can remember him showing flashes against the Cowboys last year in the game he got hurt. What better stage to shine than against a rival?
it's one of those ongoing arguments around here. . . currently unresolvable. . .
He has fans who love what they see as his potential based on his college days.
Others look at his scant on the field production and don’t buy the hype.
Both are wrong to act like they’re certain about him.
He’s a third year player. He might have potential He might not turn out to much.
He’s going to have to work to get opportunities in what is becoming a crowded receiving corps of Nicks, Manningham, Cruz and Ballard. Eli is already fighting, almost pushing to find ways to get Manningham involved, and there are only so many pass attempts to go around in a game.
So either the coaches force feed Barden opportunities at someone else’s possible expense, or he doesn’t have much of an opportunity to get going, no matter what his potential may be (unless injury opens things up on the team). But as a third year player, he doesn’t have tons of time left.
So, with not a lot of time left, his fans are getting aggressive in promoting him.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
how dare you take the middle road!!
ED!!! this guy needs to walk the plank!!
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
I might have missed something
What has prince done yet that makes you so sure about him. Both of them could be HOFer’s or busts, nobody knows yet though cause neither has had a chance to show anything due to injuries. Assuming one of them is terrible right now just isn’t smart
"The last proclamation out of Philly that meant anything was a Declaration in 1776"
"This is great. We usually get to play two regular season games before people tell us we aren't worth a s***." - Pat Hanlon the Twitter Champion
I think he is in the old Becks spot
Beckum had potential which has not played out.
I’d love to see what Barden has, think it might be good but like Becks, he has to prove himself. Time to play and prove it.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 25, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll say it, I'm plenty excited to see Barden coming back
Does that mean he’ll be great, Nope
Just means that when I see what he’s done in camp, and the improvements that have been reported in his game, I think there is a strong chance he can help the team. Remember, if all your WRs do the same thing, they are easier to defend. Having a variety of ways to attack a defense is the goal. To that end Barden presents great potential.
My wonder has always been, why aren’t others excited about what he can bring to the table.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Agree
Who cares we are into the season and have plenty of options at receiver to go to and develop
So let’s not give Barden special treatment. He has to earn it some how.
by GiantFaninColorado on Oct 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Prince
How do we know anything about Prince? I would be very very surprised to see a rookie DB who is only getting on the field at mid-season make an impact, even a first rounder.
Communication with the other guys with no playing time?
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Oct 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why players practice
It’s not like he’s going to be on the field for the first time with the defense. From your argument, I’m thinking you won’t play him until beginning of next season.
Team Blue chips:
Greg Jones,
Da Rel Scott,
JJ
JPP
J. Wlilliams
"Hello...you play to win the game."
then who the hell cares about Prince getting back?
he has showed nothing either.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Based on MNF, never underestimate anyone.
Giants must come to play this weekend and convincingly win a game they should.
I suspect TC and the medical staff will bring these guys on slowly. They should play some snaps without overdoing it. That includes Tuck, Jacobs, etc.
I wish we had him
@ instead of Interception Machine @
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I always
get that sarcastic shit right
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
lol.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 25, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
great recovery
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Anyone know what the PUP deadline is
in terms of how soon before a game do they have to take someone off PUP?
Who is going to go? Most likely Clayton although that would not be my choice.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 25, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions
PUP rules
A player who begins the regular season on the PUP list must sit out his team’s first six games. After that point, a team has three weeks to start having the player practice; once the player begins practicing, the team has another three weeks to put the player on the active roster. If the player is not activated by that time, or if he does not begin practicing within that three week window, he must remain on the PUP list for the remainder of the season.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
I have mocked the idea of Prince being an instant contributor
But Ed recently made a point that has been evolving in my head.
When Prince shows Clawfin that he deserves to be on the field, the most important contribution probably won’t be what HE does, it will be what he allows OTHER PLAYERS to do.
Namely, allowing Rolle to play traditional safety instead of slot. BIG upgrade in use of talent. Get Deon Grant off the field except for in run-stuffing S/LB capacity. Big help. Allow the Giants to get out of the 3-safety set and play C-Web, Ross, and Amookie with KP and Rolle ranging.
Obviously Tuck brings his own assets to the table but he will help the rest of the D-line too: Drawing double teams & backfield blockers, allowing better DE rotation so that JPP and Osi can thrive in their best capacities.
Obviously our pass rush hasn’t been poor, but it should get back to premier with the 3 DE rotation. (Plus Tolly!) A combination of a premier pass rush with a secondary doing what its natural roles call for could be just the boost this defense needs.
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
Barden?
Really, I think everyone is excited to see him get on the field.
It amazes me how little people know about Ramses
He was drafted as a rookie from a div 1 -aa school, he didnt play much his rookie year, he was raw and needed to be coached up, last year he played 3 games and was lost for the season.due to a injury
He Is fast tall and will be a huge part of the offense this year
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
not to mention
he broke all of this one dudes collegiate records… oh whats his name… oh yeah…
Jerry Rice… anyone heard of him???
Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.
Is that right?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 27 MIA 16
It's not really hype
49ers actually have a decent squad and they play in a weak division. Could be a very serious contender for home field advantage.
Quinn must go !!
They can't possibly go far with Alex Smith as their QB
It’s just not possible
by DieHardGiants on Oct 25, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
That depends on what they ask of Alex
If they want to have him trade pass for pass with the likes of Rogers, then they have no shot. If he is a game manager and lets his run game do the heavy lifting and rides the back of the D, then he will be ok. Remember…Ravens have a ring with TD Trent Dilfer as the QB.
Quinn must go !!
Niners D is not in that class
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
they may go 13-3
Falcons did that, and it didn’t really help them come playoff time
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Pride goeth before the fall
The Baltimore Ravens get to prove to a national television audience what we fans already know, which is that the Ravens deserve to be mentioned in conversations about the best teams in the NFL right now. The Ravens travel to play the Jacksonville Jaguars on Monday Night Football and should be able to put a huge beatdown on the troubled team with a shaky rookie QB.
So stick with Baltimore Beatdown and post your comments all game long…
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
Oh, that's just unfortunate...ha
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
whoops.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 25, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
So, what's the over/under
on # of teams that jumped us in the power polls this week? I’m guessing the Cowboys, Texans, and Jets for starters. Start up the hype machines and go back to ignoring us, please.
The Browns beat the Seahawks so add them to the list
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
don't forget the Denver Tebows
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, so glad that is not going on here
He sets the QB postion back 75 years. He’s a LB playing QB.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
More of a Fullback
he would of been great back in the early 1900’s when the foward pass was illegal
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he should go to NZ and play rugby
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Did you just say BOMAR?
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
who cares.
wow ESPN is ranking a team decimated with injuries and only played one team above .500 so low, the horror.
by Lolmoarpl0x on Oct 25, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed....who cares
It’s like we get offended when others don’t view the Giants the way we, the fans, view the Giants. These rankings don’t mean shit. This aint college. Get to the playoffs and let the chips fall where they may.
Quinn must go !!
we should care. Public perception means a lot, especially to the players.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 25, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm looking for the sarcasm fonts
If my team has to take time to check rankings and public perceptions and have that as a concern, then my team is in trouble.
Quinn must go !!
Not talking specifically about "espn power rankings"
but if you don’t think public perception and the media have an effect on the team with regards to morale, etc….then I think you are mistaken.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 25, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
But with the Giants it seems to have an inverse effect
Hence I prefer when they are ranked lower – lol
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
They could affect individuals and teams differently, but yeah lol
that’s the point….they affect them.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 25, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, there's that guy!!
How are you doing over there, BBI?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
haha surviving. Brutal part of my sched, but I'm fitting in time for BBV
as much as I can!
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 25, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
eh...you know what's really important.
The “Eli is elite” debate will always be here waiting for you over here…always.
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MAKE IT WORK!!!
Eli IS Elite
That is not even a debate. You do not debate actual facts and laws of nature.
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I don't know
what’s your position on the gravity debate?
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Gravity's overrated
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I deny the heliocentric universe
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
ha! I have a feeling I might HAVE to show up when (sorry...if)
we lose another game, to fight off the boo birds :)
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 25, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Our players know that the media snubs them
They are used to this and thrive on that to prove the media wrong.
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Let's Go Giants!
i just hate that the Giants Stadium crowd does the same thing.
Unless it’s a prime time crowd. SMH
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There isn't a player in the League (other than QB like Manning)
That has more potential impact to the future of his team right now than Prince.
If he can play at a decent level, and push Grant out of the lineup, I think this team can go from pretender to contender. Of course that assumes Fewell is going to pull his head out of his butt.
meh
I only hope the kid holds his own….Tryon @ nickle will probably happen b4 Prince can really help us !
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 25, 2011 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Never count on a rookie to change the season,
If Prince can contribute this year great, Tuck, Jacobs, Snee, coming back from injury and playing well will effect our season more.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 25, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Oct 25, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought the Browns game was bad this weekend...
Until I made the mistake of watching Ravens/Jags…
Wow, really it was almost unwatchable. Its hard to fathom how the Ravens offense can be so disfunctional, its not like they don’t have weapons. Cam Cameron has to be feeling it.
Seriously though, we don’t talk about it enough, but the CBA deal with the limited pad practices, combined with the tickytack officiating that calls penalties on everything has delivered us a big pile of crappy football….. the quality of the product around the league has been reduced.
I am inclined to agree
It seems that the new practice rules have reduced the quality of the games we are seeing. Or it could just be one of those blips that occurs every once in a while. Either way it was an ugly weekend for the NFL.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Flacco is not that good
Ravens’ D is tough as nails, but that offense is not taking them anywhere, their O-line is suspect, Flacco stinks and if Ray Rice does not get going they just don’t move the ball.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 25, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
WRs there aren't much either
Could be the whole pass offense needing an overhaul
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Ramses Barden
I saw Bradshaw in his rookie year early and knew we had someone who can play. Havent felt that way about ANY Giants offensive player since. But Barden will be a star WR for us, IMO IF he can stay healthy. He’s got all the tools, the smarts and oh what a wing span, and great hands. We should use him already this week to get him some real playing time before playing the heart of our schedule, where we will have a new offensive threat that our opponents will have to game plan around. Nicks, Barden, Cruz, Manningham, Ballard, Bradshaw and Eli, health permitting will make our O something special, even better than it was in 1st half of 2008.
I think Beckham will be released to activate Barden. And I have a feeling TC and KG just as excited about this guy as I am, b/c they would never have put up with waiting for Barden to be ready if THEY didnt see his potential.
Marfar
Bend it like Barden?
Why would we release David Beckham, he’s one of the greatest futbol players in the world
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 25, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
don't agree w/
Beckum being released for Barden…
but I agree w/ everything else you just wrote.
I also had a chance to see Barden up close and personal in Albany when he was a rookie….really wasn’t checking for the kid before than….but after that…yeah, i became a fan. real quick
TeamJPP
More Barden
Would line up Barden wide and throw short stuff his way and coach him to fall forward when he gets tackled. That’s 3 yards right there, even assuming he makes only 3 on the catch and if opponents play press coverage, it opens up the long pass where he can outleap his coverage as he did so many times at Cal Poly.
Also just think how that opens middle for Cruz and his elusive moves. Manningham? 4th receiver. Wow! OL of course must protect Eli but they’ve been a lot better at that than opening holes for run so far this season.
Marfar
How can Barden even be evaluated?
Based on what he did in college? Because he hasn’t practiced or played for us…..
I don’t think anyone has a clue what he brings other than fragility at this point…..
Beckum's not getting released.
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I don't see our O going 5 wide unless it's end game catchup
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
death
To 5 wide….that’s a disatser waiting to happen…in our multi read offense 5 wide just won’t work !
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by Mr.Williams on Oct 25, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Right
Eli could throw 2 INTs on the same play if we went 5-wide
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only 2
you don’t give the Interception Machine enough credit
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not as bad as throwing 5 INTs on same play
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Let's Go Giants!
really?
I’d say any situation taht forces Eli to make a quick decision is a good one. And having 5 wideouts the caliber the Giants can throw out there, 5 wide sounds like a disaster to cover.
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What's going on with Koets?
He is not practicing and I thought he had knee injury so how and when did his back get hurt?
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don't believe what the Giants say about injuries
for all we know it could be his knee and they’re just not saying….
it wouldn’t be the first time…or the second….or the third for that matter.
TeamJPP
Back injuries during leg rehab not so unusual
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
May 2010
His stats notwithstanding I see Smith as a glorified slot WR. He’s great at getting first downs but he has a terrible YAC average. He doesn’t draw double teams unless it’s third down. He can’t outrun you. He can’t out-jump you. He can’t out-muscle you.
1. Nicks
2. Manningham
3. Smith
4. Barden
Smith is gone. Time to put Barden in his spot.
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"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora
But doesn't Cruz playing well
throw a wrench in that? Not saying Cruz is a slot WR, I guess he all depends on how Ramses looks during the practices this week.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Dont Misuse Barden
He’s NOT a slot receiver – replacement for Smith. Cruz fits that role, probably better than Smith b/c of his YAC ability. Barden is a great outside target for Eli, either as a hot receiver or on outside fly routes. Also a great green zone threat for corner routes.
Marfar
why isn't he?
he’s 6"6 225, maybe not the weight but the size of a TE. Why not use him over the middle of the field?
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With regards to Barden
Eli has already proven that he can get the job done with the current cast of WRs and TEs. We really don’t need Barden for corner fades or jump balls (even though it could be nice) when the back shoulder fade to Nicks (our best receiver) is working so well. I’d rather the Giants try to incorporate Scott’s speed over Barden’s height.
Quinn must go !!
No He Hasnt
Not Eli’s fault, but offense has been very spotty and not explosive. Barden will put much more pressure on defense and make Eli much more dangerous on quick drops. It will also force defenses to take someone out of the box and open running game. Might try replacing Thomas at KR with Scott, IF he can catch the ball and hold onto it.
Marfar
Didn't you just say you'd rather see them use Scott than Barden.
And now Barden is going to put more pressure on the defense and make Eli much more dangerous. Which is it, make up you’re mind.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
???
No He Hasnt
He hasn’t?? Eli is 125 of 196, that 64%. He has over 1700 yards passing with 11 tds only 5 pics and is playing the best ball of his life. You say he hasn’t proven that he can get the job done with this crew?? What else can the guy do. Is Barden going to turn Eli into some sort of 80%, 6,000 yard passer??
Quinn must go !!
Wo, Easy Does It
Didnt say Eli not getting job done. He has been mostly terrific. What I AM saying is that our O would greatly benefit with Barden as an additional weapon for Eli and make it less likely that it will sputter for stretches during games, especially in the 1st half. Eli has had one hand tied behind his back b/c run game has been mostly awful as defenses load up against it. With Barden as hot receiver on outside, it would make defenses have to game plan against Barden threat and our running game would open up more. Defenses do not fear Manningham. Barden is a much more lethal weapon they would have to try to stop.
Marfar
Ok....misunderstood what you were saying about Eli
I just haven’t seen anything to suggest Barden is going to be this lethal weapon. We know what we have with Ham while Barden is an unproven x factor. The guy is 6’6 but I don’t see him turning us into the greatest show on turf. The guy can’t possibly be in football shape and would be another Plax, good from 7 yards in.
Quinn must go !!
by njgiant on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Plax 35 yrs old
Plax not player he was b/c he’s past prime. Barden 25 yrs old and finally ready to start career (hopefully). Cant compare. If Barden used correctly, will be better weapon than Plax ever was. If he’s healthy, wanna see him get reps vs Miami this Sunday. Teams will have to game plan against him once they see what this guy can do.
Marfar
"WE" haven't even seen what he can do??
He’s 33/33/33. He could come in and light it up or he could bust or he could just be a tall average WR. Even with a few plays that he played before he was injured, there was nothing to suggest he would be a game changer.
Quinn must go !!
by njgiant on Oct 25, 2011 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Guess We'll Have to Wait & See
But with this guy’s ceiling, I wanna see him start playing as soon as he’s healthy. Might he bust? Of course, but with his tools and football sense, I think he will be something special. And I think JR and our coaching staff quietly drooling over his, yes, game changing potential.
Marfar
I am hoping that he does well
I’m also hoping that we find a way to use Scott. I think that when it’s all said and done, these two will be depth players. I really don’t see either one leap frogging anyone for time or reps.
Quinn must go !!
Scott
Dont know how fast he can hit the hole. Once he has an open field he’s very fast. Can he pass block? AB still plenty good and though I think BJ is pretty much done, dont think Oline good enuf to block for a guy with just blinding speed and no other proven football skills. As I said, if anything, I’d try him as KR, but ONLY if he can catch the ball and not give it away when hit by ST’s.
Marfar
Fans here seem to disagree on Barden a whole lot
The kid has all the physical tools to be a nightmare matchup problem in the redzone as well as moving the chains. But the Giants have a good WR corps right now. We lost nothing, as Ballard isn’t dropping balls like Kevin did. And the plays where Steve Smith would crumple up and fall down, Victor Cruz has turned them into TDs. Barden is hopefully another productive weapon for the team. He is going to need to practice first because he won’t be seeing the field too much when we got Nicks, Ham, Cruz, Ballard and Bradshaw. This isn’t a bad thing that Barden is still buried on the depth chart. We have very good WR…
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Win Ugly.
Then Why is Our O Stumbling (At Times)?
I think Barden would cause defenses to take a player out of the box and open our running game b/c he would be great short pass target for Eli on 3 step dropback. That would make our O much less predictable and put more pressure on the defense. And Eli’s great at reading defense at LOS. And AB much improved in blitz pick-up.
Marfar
cuz Cruz drops passes and Manningham's a nipple
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