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Bye Week Analysis: Giants' Defense

We know the story with the New York Giants' defense. It's all about the defensive line. Lots of pass-rushers. Lots of big plays created by the defense, and just about as many being given up. If this group can ever find some consistency and stop giving up those huge plays it could be one of the league's best.

Star-divide

No Halloween Costume Necessary

He's Superman. Or Spiderman. Just go ahead and name your own superhero. Whoever you choose, Jason Pierre-Paul is a monster. He has 7.5 sacks, which is second in the league, and 30 tackles. The truly amazing thing is the Giants still don't think the second-year player really knows what he is doing yet.

"He's a long way away from where he can get to. He's done such a good job of coming in and just learning the system. He hasn't played much football. I'm amazed every day by JPP. Every game it's just like something he learns new and he continues to improve," said Giants defensive line coach Robert Nunn. He's a very unique talent. He's got unique ability. He's got such good quickness. Once he begins to play full speed, it's scary. It's not that he's loafing. It's just the game is still moving fast for him. It continues to slow down more and more as we go. He's got to be accounted for every snap."


Sacks Interceptions Tackles
G Sacks YdsL Int Yds IntTD Solo Ast Total
2011 - Jason Pierre-Paul 6 7.5 59 0 0 0 24 6 30

Hey Perry, Can You Turn Them Loose? Please!

The Giants lead the league with 21 quarterback sacks. The truly incredible thing about that is that defensive coordinator Perry Fewell often seems to be running a scheme that holds back his devastating array of pass-rushers -- rarely blitzing and too often sending only three rushers. C'mon Perry, release the hounds! 

Do The Words 'Gap Responsibility' Ring A Bell?

We seem to hear about failures in 'gap responsibility' almost every week. Hey fellas, is it really that complicated? The Giants have already surrendered seven runs of 20 yards or more this season, two that went for more than 40 yards. That's not good enough. 

Linebackers? Who Says The Giants Don't Have Any?

Michael Boley is having an excellent year, taking on more leadership responsibility than ever before. At his current pace he will finish with more than 100 tackles. Mathias Kiwanuka has done an excellent job in a hybrid DE/LB role. Rookie Jacquian Williams has shown considerable play-making potential. Thre is also Greg Jones and several other rookies. This position looks better than it has in a loooong time.

Praying For Prince

No offense to either player, but the Giants need desperately to get Deon Grant out of that center field safety position and Antrel Rolle out of the slot cornerback spot. They know it, too. 

"Deon Grant came back to us and again if you look at some of the injuries that have occurred, Jon Goff at that linebacker position, we didn't intend for him to come back and play as a deep safety," said safeties coach Dave Merritt. "Deon last year played the Will linebacker position for us so he was down around the box. Now because we don't have anybody that we are comfortable with in the back end, Deon is having to play that safety position and that is a little different for him as well as Antrel. We have two guys that are coming in and playing positions that they didn't think they would have to play a lot of. That's what they are doing and they are doing well."

That is where Amukamara comes in. If the first-round pick can come back from his broken foot, pick up the defense and handle covering slot receivers then Rolle can go back to his normal safety position and Grant won't be exposed in so many passing situations.

By The Numbers

Points Per Game: 24.5 (22nd)
Yards Allowed: 273.5 (20th)
Rushing Yards: 127.7 (25th)
Pasing Yards: 245.8 (16th)

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TT and Prince

if those two guys did not get hurt, this defense is top 10, maybe top 5

by The Blood of Eli on Oct 22, 2011 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

And Goff

Not a big fan of his but he was a better option than Jones learning on the job. Jones may well be the MLB of the future but his learning curve has slowed the D a bit.

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Oct 22, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

and more aggressive

game plan and play calling by PF

by GMen56-11 on Oct 22, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny Thing about being aggressive...

Ed keeps calling for this too from PF, but then in the very same article he moans about the D giving up the big play. The more aggressive you play the more vulnerable your D becomes to giving up the big play. If we keep blitzing, it’s going to put a lot of pressure on the depleted secondary. Obviously we don’t need to blitz very often to get pressure, since according to Ed, we rarely blitz but yet we still lead the NFL in sacks…

by NYStateofMind on Oct 23, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leading in sacks

is a product not only of a great Dline, but of the teams we have played having the ball and controlling the LOS because our offense can’t run the ball well on first and second down. Then causing alot of difficult to convert 3rd and longs, which result in alot of 3 and outs. Which gives the ball back to the other team for more offensive plays and opportunities for sacks.

I still say play more aggressive not only on the line, but play more press coverage which will limit the 3 step drop throw the slant completions.

And it’s not play all press, all aggressive all the time. Just more. I’m cringe at the 3 man rushes.

Last year PF was alot more aggressive with the blitzes in 3rd and long.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

by tommy d. on Oct 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Goff and TT make a lot bigger difference

Prince has great potential, but not really sure if he’s gonna make them a top 10 D. Can say the same of Marvin Austin.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

well the only reason i throw prince in

is because of the personel changes that our defense would be aloud to make if he was here. regardless of whether or not he would be able to play at a high level and made a difference on the field, he would still allow grant to play LB in those passing situations and allow rolle to play deep safety 100% of the time.

by The Blood of Eli on Oct 22, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

we need to stop

talking about Prince as if he’s an experienced vet. We have no idea what he’ll do in the NFL.

by GMen56-11 on Oct 22, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree...

there are no “sure things” in football

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 22, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes there is

Romo will Choke under pressure

by a hay on Oct 27, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty certain no one is doing that.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

a lot of BBV fans are

I’ve probably heard 10 times “when Prince comes back” as a statement that he’ll be making an instant impact

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

when Prince comes back

Interception machine “turns a corner” ???

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Prince comes back

Our special teams becomes “elite”?

Win ugly.

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hilarious thing about "turning a corner"

Watching Giants games, you’ve heard the announcer declare Eli turning so many fucking corners he’d be dizzy by now, or at least have escaped this fantastic labyrinth announcers seem to have him wending through

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it sounds a bit better then "Giants sign Justin Tryon".

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 23, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Tryout?

agreed. Still, expect the “Prince Impact Era” to begin in 2012 … the most valid conclusion I’ve seen is that Prince’s impact will be mostly to allow Rolle to play his natural position. If Amukamara can get on the field, that will mean he’s up to speed (of the nfl & with the playbook) and so long as he’s not costing us points, the move for Rolle should help.

God, this D is going to be sick when fully healthy.

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prince has to prove he can play in the NFL yet. Not saying he can not he just needs to prove it. He needs to be physical.

by Giantstep on Oct 23, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

and don’t forget the games missed by Tuck and Osi. We really haven’t seen the two of them working at the same time this year.

by Ualtar on Oct 22, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah you are right

but it didnt hurt the team much because we still beat the shit out of every qb we played so far… our d line is clearly not a problem, its the fact that our play maker is otu of position playing nickel…. rolle is a top 5 safety when he is playing deep and flying around the field. deon grant might be one of the wrost starting deep safetys in the league

by The Blood of Eli on Oct 22, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes you appreciate JPP that much more

So far JPP is the MVP of the defense IMO. I wasn’t thrilled with the pick last year but JR has shown why he makes the big bucks. JPP has been the glue to that line.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Oct 22, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once they're back to full strength ...

I just hope PF gets more aggressive on long yardage passing downs. Tuck, JPP, Osi & Kiwi should all be on the field with a hand in the dirt. Send an LB or DB, too.

And f*ck the zone bs. Man-to-man press coverage to make sure their guy doesn’t even make it to the sticks before that pass rush gets there. The success rate at getting off the field or forcing a turn-over should soar.

And keep the DE’s rotating on 1st and 2nd downs to stay fresh for those 3rd and long opportunities.

by Shofner85 on Oct 22, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Ross and CWeb

Don’t these guys prefer a press D? They have the size and enough speed.

I never have understood the preference for a softer zone D. Especially with these players.

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Oct 22, 2011 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

it's changing though MSP....

at least w/ Webster

but Fewell still gonna throw those Zone D looks in there….

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Oct 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

he has to

we cant just line up man to man every play like some people want us to

by The Blood of Eli on Oct 22, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

and that's ok

but right now he plays man to change the look. It needs to be the other way around.

by GMen56-11 on Oct 24, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you have to mix it up

Even press cover teams toss in zone, part of the equation is to make the QB hesitate a bit or get overconfident. I’d love to see this D with the full complement of guys.

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Oct 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

play madden

TT and Prince change everything

by The Blood of Eli on Oct 22, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course...

BUT they’re is still a conscious effort the past three weeks to play Cweb a lot closer to the reciever and basically let him bump and run.

that’s clear as day….

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Oct 22, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ross too

I’ve been happier with that part of the defense.

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Oct 22, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

myself and Andiamo

were discussing what to do with Amukamara when he comes back.

I’m all for getting him out there right away, Andiamo wants to bring him along more slowly, but the one thing I think the 2 of us agree on is that, Prince would probably best be served starting on the outside.

Moving Cweb or more likely Ross to the slot.

As Andiamo put it this would allow him to just allow him to play football without having to overly concern himself about Fewell’s schemes.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 22, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Giants are 8th in the NFL in defensive team interceptions

and that is the other part of the defensive formula for the team.

Step one: pressure on the passer/stuuf the run

Step two: cause turnovers/pick the ball.

No one talks about it, but it may be that there are not as many blitzes because the coaches (PF, TC) want some guys back there to catch those hurried throws. They did make it a focus in the abbreviated training camp.

It’s also possible that they don’t want to put all their blitzes out there on film before they face New England, Green Bay and New Orleans. But I think the first reason is the bigger one.

@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.

by AJ_in_VA on Oct 22, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Fun random note about a former Giants defensive player

Slightly on topic, but apparently Aaron Rouse had a good game in the UFL Championship game, getting 3 INTs, including a pick six!

by Midnight Blue on Oct 22, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Deal

Did Fassel make it again?

Win ugly.

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did yes

But they did not win. (Got most of this from an ESPN blurb online). Marty Schottenheimer’s team won. And wow, trying to find out who won this I also just found out there are only 4 teams in the UFL and they only play 6 games plus 1 Championship game. I am now less impressed with Fassel’s record heh.

by Midnight Blue on Oct 22, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaron rouse

UFL MVP = Not quite good enough for the NFL

Tommy Maddox, anyone?

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like a conspiracy theorist, BUT....

Do you think Fewell is reserving (read: hiding) his blitz schemes for the more challenging, second half of the season?

by NY FUBAR on Oct 22, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree sort of

Injuries have dictated much on the D…but I also think PF has not shown more b/c 1: he didn’t have to & 2: he doesn’t want teams to have time to figure them out ! That happens a lot ,a team has sucess early then 2nd half of season the other teams figure them out ! “This is chess not checkers”

Silly me ..I'm just a Fan

by Mr.Williams on Oct 22, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this is unlike him

the GIants blitzed a lot more last year. It could be until he feels that the players are all comfortable with that style of D and that Goff and TT were big parts of that aggressive style and accounted for a lot of the trust.

Hopefully we do, cuz we needs that style of D to be a staple of the defense.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sure as hell hope that's not what's going on...

cause if you have better plays – USE THEM! Wins over the Seahawks and Redskins would have been worth just as much as wins over the better teams, and I’d hate to think we lost to lesser teams because we were holding back. I don’t believe that was the case by the way, but I don’t buy that Fewell is hiding a lot of options because of the schedule.

by Cranky50 on Oct 22, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

JPP got screwed

10,000. fine for the QB hit

You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra

by greg a on Oct 22, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I just don't like these fines for something that's more incidental contact

If he got that close to me though, I would just give him Tree fiddy

You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra

by greg a on Oct 22, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

cant hit the qb in the head

JPP has to control his body and not let his arms fly around like that.

by The Blood of Eli on Oct 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

he grazed the bottom of the facemask

crap call, I understand why they threw the flag… I dont understand why he got fined.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Oct 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fewell

I hope that FUBAR is right but I don’t think he’s saving up his secrets for the second half of the season. Fewell drives me nuts. He always seems to be trying to put the square peg in the round hole. Our defense is a lot more talented than it shows. Unfortunately I feel that Fewell is not playing his players to take advantage of their strengths. I’d like to see a bit more blitzing and man coverage. Stop trying to confuse your players Fewell and let them do what they do best instead of trying to force fit them into your scheme.

by TuckU on Oct 22, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Fewell

Had to make a lot of adjustments he was not planning to, moving the secondary around due to injuries, Starting rookie LBz and making it possible for them to digest everything going on, Tuck Osi injuries, I dont think he could have done much better than he has considering.
Now getting people healthy should help us get back to being what are used to

You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra

by greg a on Oct 22, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

all things considered

I think PF has done an decent job thus far,schedule dictates that we have no choice but to be more aggresive going forward ! The move I look for more than Prince hitting the field is Tryon @ the Nickle CB ,I think that happens b4 Prince ! In any case Rolle needs to go back to his normal spot & Grant put on the shelf ! JPP 40 snaps wld make him more of a beast imo ,fresher hungrier = Beast x a trillion

Silly me ..I'm just a Fan

by Mr.Williams on Oct 22, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I agree Ed with the pressure

However, I also think Perry is still trying to learn who he has on defense. Thus, not going to put people in a position to greatly influence the outcome of the game..

Once, the Rookies start becoming solid, and the Defensive backfield is set. I will be right there with you screaming “BRING THE RAIN!!!!!”

There was game last year where we brought heavy blitz the last 5 plays of the game to end it… the opposing offense had no answer.

I was laughing like evil ruler… laughing with glee… I wish to do that again, at some point this season.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Oct 22, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Fewell needs to recognize this D's strengths

Obviously the pass rush is the best part of the Giants defense. We know it, they know it, and more importantly opposing offenses know it. As a result, you can count the amount of 7 step drops each game on one hand; it just doesn’t happen that often. It’s all quick drops, slants, screens, etc. It seems like a no brainer to me that the corners have to play more press coverage, or at least narrow the freakin’ 10 yard space between them and the receivers at the snap. When you have a pass rush like the Giants have, you have to want those quick throws to come out and cover accordingly. The way we play our corners, it’s almost like we’re defeating our own purpose.

As for the gap responsibility, I agree completely with Ed. And improving that area is almost entirely a matter of “want to”. This defense has shown flashes of brilliance, but it seems to always be one missed tackle away from disaster. Great defenses don’t have all 11 guys trying to make the highlight reel play on every snap. There needs to be more of an effort on simply doing one’s job and staying with your responsibility.

To be honest, my opinion of this defense so far is this: unless it’s 3rd and 10 and the pass rush is coming, we’re simply not that good. Not yet at least.

by mtcl05 on Oct 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

that drives me mad

the 10 yard cushions so they dont get beat deep… the qb doesnt even have the time to beat us deep.

go man press and give the opposing QB 3 sec to throw the ball.

Giants are young, and injured... Most importantly they are winning.

by Skii31 on Oct 22, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could see what everybody else does on this site regarding the LBz...

They have been below average at best and piss poor at worst. Truth is Boley and Jwill are nickle backers who get thrown around on running plays. Kiwi has looked uncomfortable at best and completely out of place at worst (except rushing the passer). Greg Jones is flat out SLOW. I don’t want to sound like a Debbie Downer but this is what I see happening on sunday. I think they can and will get better but I don’t think the LB situation looks all that much better than in recent years.

Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.

He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?

That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!

Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.

by bleedblue12 on Oct 22, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I completely agree

You have to remember though, because LB was a big issue coming into this season saying it hasn’t improved would be saying Reese failed to fix a glaring issue. Questioning his holiness is a sin according to some around here after all. For that reason you are hereby required to believe that our LB unit is infinitely better and therefore Reese did absolutely the right things to fortify that position by once again ignoring it in FA and the early half of the draft. Sorry to be so snippy, but that is the dripping impression left reading this stuff.

by bigblue777 on Oct 22, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't apologize...

I agree 100%.

Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.

He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?

That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!

Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.

by bleedblue12 on Oct 22, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

"...that is the dripping impression left reading this stuff."

The impression I get from the incessant and irrational hyperbole that you pose as legitimate criticisms of posters here is that you are someone who is either incapable of logical analysis or is being contrarious because you think it makes you courageous and honorable.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 22, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"contrarian"

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I don’t know why I wrote “contrarious.” It means something completely different.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 22, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where's the hyperbole in my post?

Do you know the definition of the word? I back my opinions with logic and analysis, do you? Courage, honor? What in the world are you blathering about? It’s a blog. You are taking this way too serious. Accept the fact that people in this world can disagree with you and start a conversation from there. Irrationale, yeah that’s sure me…

by bigblue777 on Oct 23, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're a beacon of clarity
Questioning his holiness is a sin according to some around here after all.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora

by GhostDini on Oct 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite hyerbole but the fact that you are so riled

kind of proves the point. Plain and simple if you question Reese there are some individuals who are going to attack you for it. I didn’t call you out by name, yet you felt the need to lash out simply because I said folks don’t accept questioning Reese or taking any stance other than he did exactly the right thing for the team? Why is that? The logical answer here would be that the statement hit home judging from the personal attachment you took to it.

by bigblue777 on Oct 23, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The same applies to post game analysis

If the Giants win a someone criticizes a facet of the team the poster is advised to enjoy the moment.

If the Giants lose the poster is advised to step away from the ledge.

The reality is I enjoy each win. At the same time there’s many things wrong. Such as, when the Giants give up 36 to Seattle then Seattle scores 3 points this weekend. It’s worrisome. No need for a BBVer to post the defense didn’t give up 36 etc. I get that.

by GMen56-11 on Oct 24, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who's birthday is it today?

This guysss

Hoping Tuck, Strahan and Ballard respond to my birthday tweets.
Sadly no Giants game tmrw which means the Cowboys and Redskins better lose tmrw!

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Oct 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Happy Birthday!!

Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.

He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?

That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!

Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.

by bleedblue12 on Oct 22, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday, Will

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Oct 22, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff

And yes. Yes, I did just call you “Jennifer.”

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have a Happy one

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 22, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you all

Especially Tito haha

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Oct 22, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you had a good day man

I went camping last night so I basically slept from 1 to 730 today lol…woke up just in time to watch ND get beat up in a night game for the first time in two decades.

You get some cake or what?

Win ugly.

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually got two cakes

Come over and you can have some!

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Oct 22, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Happy Birthday

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Oct 22, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The offense takes a lot of flak from the fans and the media

But I really believe the defense has been the biggest let down. Yes, there are some individuals who are having a really good season. But for the most part, they’re performing at a below par level, IMO. I believe part of the reason is, while I believe Fewell is a good DC, I just think he’s being wayyyyyy too conservative. I mean, we’re winning right? So I guess I’m splitting hairs. But when I’m watching the games, I get very nervous everytime the defense steps on the field, regardless of who the opponent is.

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by maculis on Oct 22, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense is playing on the absolute edge. Its either all or nothing. They scare the bejezus out of me.

by mustangmach on Oct 23, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year I remember people debating me about whether Grant was playing linebacker for us

Does a coach himself calling it out finally make some of those folks realize I wasn’t talking nonsense?

by bigblue777 on Oct 22, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It should

If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

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by tommy d. on Oct 22, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Safety Rule

Ed if a player is tackled with part of the ball in front of his teams goal line and part of the ball in the endzone is it a safety? I Need your help!

by Giantfan153 on Oct 22, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a safety

Like a TD is any part of the ball is across the goal line, it’s a TD

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Oct 22, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It should read

If any part …

Same way for safeties

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Oct 22, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor tackling

Better tackling would help the to improve the stats too. Too many missed tackles this year.
That has to improve, if we expect to reach the playoff.

by Olddiehard on Oct 22, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

all 32 teams can claim the same tackling problem

so if everyone has it, no one does.

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by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I know the reason for the poor tackling. Fines, fines and more fines.

by Ualtar on Oct 23, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tackling is not tackling any more. It is about getting the most ESPN worthy rocket launch on the ball carrier. No more wrap ups, no more hitting the runner square just above the knees, wrapping him up, and taking his legs off the ground.

by mustangmach on Oct 23, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only thing better then winning is nothing

And like always I’m posting long after everyone in done talking about the topic. I love what you had to and others about the soft zone and not using the biggest weapon our Dline and top tier pass rusher..I feel fewell is just not confident in our linebackers and secondary, for good reason. This is keeping him from blitzing and playing this “safe zone” style.Do I agree. Hell no!! But we are winning, and at the end of 60mins I don’t care how many big plays or yards are D gave up. All that matter is the W

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