NFC East Breakdown: New York Giants
by wild_eagle on Oct 20, 2011 1:55 PM EDT
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I know I've been away for a while guys, I've just been crazy busy over the last 3-4 weeks because my classes have been insanely difficult. However I wrote this over on BGN and figured that you'd like to take a look at it and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it along with some suggestions for my Cowboys, Redskins and Eagles breakdowns.
Now the analysis is completely opinion, what I think of a player is my opinion etc.. I will make this as unbiased as I can. So we'll get going with this after the jump starting with The New York Football Giants
New York Giant's overview:
Offense:
The Giants offense has really been up and down over the first few games of the season however they've been able to score enough points to cover for their defenses deficiencies and win games. Unlike the Giants offenses of the past the running game has actually been pretty stagnant racking up a mere 90.2 yards a game (placing them at 26th in Rushing offense), however where the Rushing defense has failed the passing game has flourished with 278.2 passing yards a game and 11 TD's. Now you have to give credit where credit is due and I have to say Eli is actually having a good season so far and Hakeem Nicks really is turning in a great season so far. All in all the Giants rank 12th in Yards Per Game (368.3 YPG) which is actually pretty good considering the losses on the offensive side of the ball since last season.
Defense:
The Giants Defense is the one which has been impacted the most by injuries. They lost Osi for the first 3-4 weeks of the season, Tuck's been out the last 2 games, their top DT Austin is out for the Season, Thomas tore his ACL, Stintim and Goff both tore theirs, and Amukamara's been out most of the season with a foot injury. The Giants are starting rookie Greg Jones at MLB and fellow rookie LB Paysinger is playing a lot so far this season.. The Giants defense has caused 7 INT's and have 21 sacks so far this season, those are both good totals. That being say they're giving up 20 first downs a game, and 24.5 points a game. (Note: JPP is looking damn good)
Team:
The Giants team is one that's very dangerous offensively, they have the weapons at receiver to hurt you with Nicks and Cruz on the outside and Manningham in the slot. They're still missing Steve Smith but so far they're doing just fine without him. If the Giants can somehow find their running game of years past and tighten up their defense for the final 10 game stretch of the season they could realistically take the division and land in the playoffs, maybe even take that first round bye.
Players to watch:
Eli Manning, Quarterback- Eli's playing extremely well this season, he's completed 125 of 196 passes for 1,778 yards (9.1 average and 63.8 completion percentage) and 11 TD's while only throwing 5 INT's and getting sacked 14 times. He has a QB rating of 101.1 so far this season... The last time Eli was playing football like this the Giants were in the playoffs on the way to getting that title they hold so dear to their hearts. (Note, I'm talking about that stretch they had towards the end of the season and through the playoffs where he barely made any mistakes).
Hakeem Nicks, Wide Receiver- Nicks is having a fantastic year so far, he has 32 catches for 508 yards and 3 TD's and has been simply amazing at times. This man is going to have a great year if he continues to play the way he is. He's putting up stats very similar to Jeremy Maclins right now.
Jake Ballard, Tight End- Over the last 3 games Ballards actually put together some decent games, during this span he has 8 rec, 185 yards and both of his TD's.. The other 3 games he had just 7 rec for 88 yards... It's looking as if Ballard may turn into the go-to guy that Eli's been searching for this season.
Antrel Rolle, Safety- Rolle's doing well so far this season, he has 45 tackles in just 6 games. He's also added 1 forced fumble and 1 INT. He's having a solid season right now and when he keeps his mouth shut he looks so much better.
JPP, Defensive End- The man is having a phenomenal season and has really filled the void of both Osi and Tuck through the first 6 games, he's provided some great sparks at times with his 7.5 sacks and batted balls at the LOS. If he keeps this level of play up he'll likely be punching his own ticket to the Pro Bowl.
Final Thoughts:
All in all the Giants are a solid team, everybody was down on them due to injuries but I always respect the Giants because no matter what they're fighters just like the Eagles are. They will likely have a rough time with the last 10 games where they face teams like the Patriots,Packers, 49ers and of coarse the NFC Rivals, this is going to make it very difficult for the Giants to hold onto the division but they have the players to do it... However that brutal 2nd half of the season proves lucky for the Eagles considering our situation right now.
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That is decent
Although I believe nicks is a bit further advanced than Maclin (and he’s like 16). Austin is our 3rd string DT, but was highly touted in the draft. Paysinger isn’t playing nearly as much as williams, and Mario is not really playing slot (although he rotates in a bit).
You are right about most everything else, especially the brutal schedule we will face during the 2nd half of the season.
Giants must run the ball as the climate will take it’s toll on our passing game. All in all, good round up.
by AKMORA on Oct 20, 2011 2:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I watch the Giants a lot, but not nearly as much as the Eagles so I just call it how I see it.
Glad I got some things hammered out.
But you need to take a Look at Nick’s production and Maclins, they’re identical for the most part.
That 2nd half of the season is going to be crazy for you guys.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
No, it isn't.
That 2nd half of the season is going to be crazy for you guys.
by BrooksBridges11 on Oct 20, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean crazy as "rough"
You guys have the hardest schedule of anybody from here on out.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Tuck has missed 4 games.
Jacquian Williams has been playing very well . Pay hasn’t seen much of the field unlike in the preseason.
other then that not bad.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Also Austin is not their top DT
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he could have been but i highly doubt it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
he would've taken a few snaps a game
kinda like Jimmy Kennedy, and been ready hopefully to take over for Bernard next year. Basically I believe he would’ve been on the linval joseph path
Just what I was gonna say
I think there was no question Linvel and Canty were the starters… Austin would of come in on the big line packages
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually thing Austin would have been used in a rotational rush package
Bernard/Kennedy i think would be better for the heavy’s
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
IMO
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
I sgree
But he was supposedly 1st rd material. Had that scandal.
by AKMORA on Oct 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that he was
Really wanted to see what he could do this year. He would of been a nice pass rushing presence in the middle. He fits that role well.
Sadly we will never know how much playing time he would of had
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm saying Austin was your top DT because everybody over here was hyping him up so much
and saying that he was going to be your starter before he got hurt.
I didn’t realize Tuck missed that many games, I should’ve checked up on that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
nah, people were high on his longer term upside
but expecting him to fill in while Joseph and Canty carried the major load.
People were more hyped about next year for him, and they still are, assuming he recovers well.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
he was most definitely 100% NOT going to start
he’s probably the 4th DT at best. No way he’s starting over Canty and Joseph, and I doubt he’s getting snaps over Bernard.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Point taken, my mistake.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Hey Wild,
I hope the classes are going well.
I was hoping to get a little more of an outlook on what you thought the Giants would do in the short and long term.
I know most people think either the Giants, Cowboys, or Eagles could win the division, but what do u REALLY think?
I honestly don’t know who to pick, but at this point I’ll roll with my division leading Giants.
It seems like Romo is headed for his worst year as a pro with all the late game mistakes, and your Eagles have too big of a hole to dig out of.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
by tommy d. on Oct 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Based on schedule
Gmen are screwed. Tampa and Chicago won divisions and so did Philly. So they all play. We came in 2nd, but so did saints and pack… That just sucks as both of these teams have lit us up in recent history. We had to beat Seahawks. Now we have to get by Miami, or we are sunk. I’ll be there in San Fran on the 13th. I bought tix for phx and sf Bc I figured we crush both teams. Now 9ers look like a tough team. Our pass rush must make up for our secondary. Pray that the prince has a positive impact, and hold onto your seats. I see 10 wins. Beat Miami, lose to pats, beat sanfran and saints, lose to pack, beat Philly, split with Dallas, and beat jets… That’s my hope and prayer!
by AKMORA on Oct 20, 2011 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Atlanta won the South last year
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they? Bucs were 3rd..my bad
That makes it that much easier for cowboys… They have easiest rode..
Skins do nothing
by AKMORA on Oct 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know, I know,
The schedule is really tough. Its much harder than anyone else’s in the division and it gives (in theory) a competitive advantage to our division foes.
But we are a good team. And if we get healthy and get better, it wont matter who we play.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
by tommy d. on Oct 20, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Alright I'll take this 1 by 1.
I hope the classes are going well
They are, I’m really aiming for all A’s this year so I’m working my ass off.
I was hoping to get a little more of an outlook on what you thought the Giants would do in the short and long term.
Short Term: Honestly, I don’t have much of a clue. I think short term they’ll roll with what’s been working and pass the ball, the only issue is that Eli seems to have some struggles with that as the weather turns (once again my opinion based on what I’ve seen which is vastly less than what you guys have) and you’ll need to find your running game when the temp drops very low. So I think short term you guys roll with what you have, what’s been working and try and find that running game.
Long Term: I think long term as going into next season (like weeks 14-Training camp) so I’m sorry if this isn’t the time frame you’re thinking about.. But I can see you guys either being in the hunt or completely out and I think Tom’s job depends on you guys actually being a threat towards the end, but with that back end of the schedule it’s going to be very difficult for you guys. Going into next season I think you guys will beef up your OL (this year has some very good interior OLmen coming out, and those guys end up being steals when you get them in the 2nd/3rd rounds) and probably beef up your LB core, other than that I wouldn’t be surprised to see you guys get a RB high and let Jacobs or Bradshaw walk (most likely Jacobs). I think those are the main changes really, maybe a better WR than Cruz.
I know most people think either the Giants, Cowboys, or Eagles could win the division, but what do u REALLY think?…. I honestly don’t know who to pick, but at this point I’ll roll with my division leading Giants…. It seems like Romo is headed for his worst year as a pro with all the late game mistakes, and your Eagles have too big of a hole to dig out of.
My honest opinion? I’m thinking either the Eagles or Cowboys. I think it’s a complete misconception that the hole the Eagles are in is to big to dig out of, we’re just 2 games back from you guys and we’re looking pretty good now that our D is being used properly… The Cowboys have and easy backend schedule, their D is playing well and their WR’s are healthy but you Romo’s not an NFL QB, he’s a bum, and that’ll show itself again. Redskins have no stable QB, their Running game is hit or miss and they can’t pass the ball, add the fact that their backend of the schedule is basically the same as yours and I wouldn’t be surprised if they lose out.. Now I get you you guys, you’re the wildcard in all of this, you have the potential to collapse like the Redskins do every year but you also have the potential to stave off the competition for 10 games, also we can’t forget about Eli’s untimely blunders which seem to happen every year (but I do admit he’s playing his best football since that SB run).
All this being said, if the Eagles D plays like it did against the Redskins I don’t see how it’s impossible to get outta our hole especially with the Redskins/Giants schedules there to help us out and Romo manning the QB position in Dallas.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Thanks.
I wasn’t really looking for your opinion on the draft (save that for the off season :-), but your thinking on the division for the rest of the year is plausable. The Giants have faltered down the stretch the past two years, so if I were a fan of one of our rivals I would hope for and expect to see that again.
As far as the hole the Eagles have dug, it’s big. And I don’t think your team is THAT good that it will 8 or 9 of the next 10. What you need to hope for, IMO, is that 9-7 wins the divsion, then you have a shot.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
I don’t expect you guys to falter, but with that many rough games coming up it’s not entirely far fetched to see how you could drop some games..
All the Eagles need to do is win the division, and 9-7 could do that sadly. But I do think we have the potential to win out the rest of the way, if and only if our D plays like it did this past week
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Oh, and I'm glad to hear you are working for A's in school.
Make it happen.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
Thanks,
I am, I kinda lollygagged last year and got a couple of C’s and that’s what I needed to have something click and make me put 100% effort into college haha.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Good for you.
We all have to take care of our business. Doing well, or at least working as hard as you can trying to do well, just creates the proper habits that are so important to either succeed at what you do in life or at least have the satisfaction that you didn’t loaf or quit.
Sorry, I donned my parent hat there for a bit, but I like seeing people succeed.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
Thanks man, kind words are always welcome by me.
It hit me over the summer that I need to kick myself into gear and once that happens nothing stops me.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Kudos on taking the academics seriously
but are people on BGN really thinking the Eagles defense just morphed into an elite unit overnight based on one game against the Sex Cannon? I mean really? That’s all it took to erase five games of suckitude?
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Oct 20, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been telling people not to take it to big over there.
Sure it was Rex Grossman, but we’re not worried about the pass, it’s the run we’re worried about and we did shut that down early and our O got ahead early and we forced them to pass the ball on us which plays into our favor.
Over the last 2 weeks Nate has come on really big, then Coleman last week and with Rolle playing well my only hope is that Chaney and Fokou either start playing well or get replaced.
But no, nobody’s saying we’re elite, but we finally did play up to our potential and that’s what we’re happy about moving forward.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Good answer
but are you really that confident about the pass D? Haven’t the Eagles given up the most passing TD’s in the leage so far (or atleast before the bye)?
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Oct 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, while we've given up a lot of passing TD's,
the majority of those came from TE’s and RB’s.
Our DB’s have played very well since Cruz got us.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
well, you took an early lead, so how much did they really run?
how many carries, especially by quarter, for the skins?
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
I think they had like
15 carries, not counting QB’s.. But when we took the early lead they forced Grossman to throw which played into our hands.
That’s kinda what we’re built to do and it works.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
14 carries total
if u include the 2 runs by Beck and only 5 attempts in the 1st half.
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
I have checked in over on BGN
and I can say, without a doubt, that the preseason arrogance was completely erased by the humbling start.
The fellas over there got knocked back into reality, and it started in week 3. :-)
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
I was never to arrogant, but I do know what the Eagles have
and I do know they have a chance… I feel like 90% of the population over there have no middle ground between the 2 extremes.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
No, you were never too arrogant.
Too many were, and I’m holding a grudge. :-)
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
The problem for the Eagles D
They don’t play the Redskins O every week so calling the defense fixed is sketchy at best. Lets see them put more than 1 good game against the Redskins up before we call the D fixed. I agree the 2nd half schedule is tough but the Giants are no cream puff. I’m not counting the Eggs out but you’re doing a lot of “hoping”. Giants beat Miami next week and they set themselves up nicely for a run once reinforcements arrive (Tuck, Prince, Snee) for a 2nd half run. I know you “hope” that doesn’t happen but better start getting used to it now so you’re not so bummed come Jan.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
by bleedblue12 on Oct 21, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this.
However it’s not the passing game we’re worried about on D, it’s that running game and we shut down a pretty good one.
Also you’re only 2 games ahead so don’t be to cocky.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Not cocky
Just confident. Like I said I won’t count the Eagles out until they’re mathematically eliminated.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
even though
my earlier post may have been very anti-eagles, it is the fan in me who bleeds blue. now aside from that, objectively your team is still very much alive and dangerous. We all know what can happen, where, and in what quarter. Also you have a big point about stopping the run. If u stop the run, u control the time of possession. Thus, you allow yourself to create more opportunity to leave teams in 3 and outs = more offensive plays for the Eagles. Given the offensive weapons you have, it is def an advantage to have them out their versus your defense. As long as you control the line of scrimmage and play clock, your O will help provide relief. I’ll give the D few more weeks to see how they gel.
Cruz >>> $Nnamdi$
???
My Eagles? I think you’re replying to the wrong person.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
Oh I completely understand man,
no harm done.
I think our D has played well over the last 6 quarters, and that’s largely because our safety’s and the adjustment to using our CB’s correctly. Our O has the firepower to win most shoot outs which is nice, but I never want to rely on that, I just hope the Eagles have a solid D that can give our O opportunities.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yeah, confidence is everything in today's world and if it were currency I'd
have a fatter wallet than Bill Gates.
Anyway, I agree, until it’s absolutely impossible for the Giants (or Deadskins/Cowboys) to make it mathematically I’m worrying. and that’s been my stance since the preseason.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I enjoys reading your posts and thanks for coming to BBV like you do.
I just wanted to poke some fun but not at you though so do not taker it as criticism. Ok so you said
and Romo manning the QB position in Dallas.
Well let me point out that Romo is NOT (Eli) Manning. Furthermore he is not ‘manning’ the job there. lol.
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
Accurate for the most part a few mistakes here and there as pointed out above
I would have loved to read your analysis about the other 3 teams as well.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
If you'd like I'll post my other 3 over here,
I might get the other BGN members involved also…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I can dig it
I heard that if JPP gets voted into the Pro Bowl that he plans on doing back flips all the way to Hawaii (the big island, of course, the others are just outside of his range)
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Didn't you say All Pro for him this season?
I don’t think you’re far off bub
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If he keeps this up then definitely
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Didnt you hear?
JPP is garbage
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
by tommy d. on Oct 20, 2011 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey, I gave him credit.
I just hope Graham kicks it in gear when he’s back on the field.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I see that you did.
It is a joke that a few of my fellow BBVers will get. One of us had a very looooong debate this off season with one of your boys on BGN about JPP. An actual quote from the Eagle fan was that JPP was garbage.
Don’t hire that guy as a scout.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
that's the same one that says Curtis Marsh will be better then Prince Amukamara
he’s a regular JIBTA that one.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Who knows, Marsh could be.
Wouldn’t be the first time a 3rd rounder is better than the 1st rounder.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
of course
but to be 100% certain about it, kind of like a certain someone was certain that Jack Ikegwuonu was better then Asante Samuel…is hilarious.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Jack Ikegwuonu? I dont even know who the hell that is.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Some guy the Eagles took in the 4th round
who was said to be a 1st round talent til he tore his ACL preparing for the Combine.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Haha, yeah JIBTA's long gone.
the one trolling BGN now is a fraud actually.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
claims he's real
verified by Jimmy and all.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Jimmy's a fraud
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually am surprised
about JPP, the dude did very little in college. I watched him for years at USF and he just was unspectacular despite his infinite athletic ability.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
coaching and learning from Tuck, Osi and Kiwi helped
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
This is true.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
He only played one year at USF
That is why he was seen as a risky raw talent.
Thank you for everything Jorgie!
by Livestrong77nyy on Oct 21, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
how can that be, the dude watched him for "years"
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
I watched him a bit when he played
in community college, I looked up games and watched when everybody was blabbering about him at USF.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
honest answer now
and we won’t tell BGN….would you rather you’re FO drafted JPP in hindsight? given everything that has gone on so far in their careers up to this point, would you make that change?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
It's because I have football knowledge and speak out of respect instead of hate.
That and I’m as unbiased as a rival fan can be haha.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I've got a huge ego.
But it’s ok, because I am pretty awesome
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
My cmputer is being dumb.
I meant to say, why did “Maybe we should call you” NOT delete? I was going to say “LeBron” but decided against it.
so the original shoulda read
“An awesome Eagle fan?? Impossible…. :)”
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
I got you haha
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
for some reason, I really like this
But it’s ok, because I am pretty awesome
I give you credit, for an eagle fan… your a pretty stand up guy
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I try to be unbiased and stuff, it's hard sometimes.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
no its' because BGN has turned on him
and he’s really starting to see his true colors, as they eek out of them….and they are blue white and red.
let your true colors shine son…..shine……
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
+1
Wild_Giant anyone?
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
by bleedblue12 on Oct 22, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
here here!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Would any of you guys like to do one of these on the Eagles?
Most likely nywins42, tommy d, troy O or Always well dressed?
I think it’d be better if a rival fan did ours instead of myself because well I’m an Eagles fan and want an outside view..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
If I'm being TOTALLY honest...
The Eagles still scare me. I’ve been doing my best to try to ignore them completely. I believe that all you guys need is a spark to catch fire and I don’t want to be there to see it when it happens.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I agree
Just hope that spark finally comes around March for them
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true, all we need is a few good winning streaks and a few good breaks.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I feel pretty confident the eagles won't "win out". . .
as this guy suggests they could do easily.
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
I never said they easily could.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'd give it a shot, BUT,
I don’t think I would do an analysis of your Eagles as well as it should be done.
I have only seen the Giants game and Falcons game in their entirety and I would have alot more mistakes than you did analyzing the Giants. lol
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
BTW, I did a Fanpost entitled "So, are the Eagles Back?"
that got knocked out today with all the new Fanposts. Not an actual analysis, but if you feel like digging that up you can get a few opinions on the Eagles from us.
If I am being negative, please don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 24 BUF 20
Alright I'll dig it up later in the week and probably write something with that as some help
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Thanks for the invite
but Im surprised BBI wasn’t the first choice. or Rorschach
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Yea BBI does have a pretty good report with BGN.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is BBI?
He’s been absent lately
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
He's having trouble in school
BBV is one of the reasons why…
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
sigh....its the truth
Only got time to check in the mornings, otherwise I’m on my grind….when things go better I’ll be back more haha got a few fanpost ideas…
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Just get healthy
We need you for the playlets
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
lol will do
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 21, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah we can't PUP you no more BBI
time to carry your own weight!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
haha got to pull a Tuck on this one for a bit!
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 22, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks man
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 22, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked him at BGN
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I would but
like the stuff said before me, I’ve only seen at Falcons, Giants and part of the Rams game for the Eagles. I can’t give a full opinion based of 2 1/2 games out of 6. Sadly no NFL Network for me (damn Time Warner).
But I will say this… I still think they are a team to watch out for. The team will not quit on Andy, they usually play very well in December. The East will very much be heated up by then, all 4 teams (yes even the Skins) will have a chance at the title.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Also thanks for the shout out
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 20, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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