'Kudos & Wet Willies,' Happiness At The Bye Edition
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 10:34 AM EDT
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PrintThe New York Giants are heading into their bye week off an exhilarating 27-24 victory over the Buffalo Bills. They are 4-2, secure in the knowledge that they will return to action against the Miami Dolphins in two weeks no worse than tied for the NFC East lead.
Let's get right to this week's 'Kudos & Wet Willies.'
Kudos to ...
Eli Manning: Another outstanding performance by the Giants' quarterback, 21-of-32 for 292 yards with no interceptions. His quarterback rating was 94.8. His numbers could have been even better if Mario Manningham had been able to haul in a perfectly thrown long ball from Manning that would have been a touchdown.
Ahmad Bradshaw: Carried the load with Brandon Jacobs out, and had 104 yards and three touchdowns on 26 carries. CBS announcer Jim Nantz used the words "anger." "force" and "intensity" to describe Bradshaw's running style. All are appropriate.
The Offensive Line: We have criticized them for weeks, but Sunday against Buffalo the line was outstanding. Manning was never sacked and was rarely hit, and there were quite a few running lanes for Bradshaw. Special mention to Kevin Boothe, who was oustanding in place of Chris Snee at right guard. On a number of occasions I saw Boothe clear out his initial block and get downfield into the Buffalo secondary to throw another one.
Jake Ballard: Umm ... Kevin Who? Ballard caught five balls for 81 yards. He has better hands than anyone thought, and he is a load to bring down in the secondary once he gets going. It is Ballard and not Travis Beckum who has become the tight end the Giants can utilize in the middle of the field, and he seemed to do a good job sealing edges while blocking on Sunday.
Mario Manningham: In the recent history about Victor Cruz and all the plaudits heading toward Hakeem Nicks Manningham has been largely forgotten. He played well Sunday, though, with five catches for 56 yards.
Hakeem Nicks: Four catches for 96 yards, including a 60-yarder. He spent the rest of his time forcing Buffalo's Drayton Florence into penalties -- Florence committed three while trying deperately to control Nicks.
Jason-Pierre Paul: It was the numbers (three tackles, one sack, one pass batted down) that were impressive. It was the monstrous presence. He was everywhere, rushing off the edge and forcing Ryan Fitzpatrick to scramble or turn into the arms of a waiting Osi Umenyiora. Helping to jam up the run. Playing nose tackle in a three-man front and requiring a double-team while doing it. This guy has got to be headed to the Pro Bowl.
Mathias Kiwanuka: We spend oodles of time arguing about whether Kiwanuka should be a linebacker or a defensive end. Well, he did both on Sunday -- and was tremendous all over the field. He finished with seven tackles, a sack and a forced fumble. The sack/forced fumble came as a defensive end, where he played a significant number of snaps and pressured Fitzpatrick a number of times. As a linebacker Kiwanuka made two brilliant, aggressive run stops when he shot gaps at the line of scrimmage to nail Fred Jackson, and one nice open-field tackle in pass coverage. He can do both, and do them both very well.
Corey Webster: Spent his day locked in a very competitive one-on-one battle with Stevie Jackson. In the end it was Webster who made the two plays -- both interceptions -- that mattered most. Truth is, Jackson beat Webster on both plays and Fitzpatrick threw bad balls that gave Webster a chance to recover and make a play. He made both, and they changed the game.
Steve Weatherford: For a guy who isn't supposed to have a big leg Weatherford certainly has been hitting some bombs lately. He punted three times for an average of 53.7 yards, and a net of better than 43 yards per punt.
Wet Willies to ...
Perry Fewell: The Giants are flush with pass rushers, even with Justin Tuck sidelined. So, what in the world is Fewell doing playing so much three-man line and dropping eight guys into coverage -- especially when one of those guys is Kiwanuka? I couldn't believe the Giants played all three-man rush on Buffalo's final drive. JPP bailed Fewell out by swatting down Fitzpatrick's final fourth-down pass when Fewell's call gave the Buffalo quarterback all the time he wanted to survey the field. Fewell has a great defensive line, a ton of pass-rushers and a group of aggressive corners. Yet, the defensive calls are often anything but aggressive. I just don't get it.
Deon Grant: The unbelievably bad angle Grant took on Fred Jackson's 80-yard touchdown run is just the latest example of how the popular veteran has become a liability to the Giants' defense. He's too slow to play coverage, and while his run support has generally been OK teams are looking for him and picking on him. The missed tackle on Sunday should not happen to a guy who has been in the league as long as Grant.
-- I will be back with much more throughout the day, so be sure to check back
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Kiwi
noticed him at DE a LOT yesterday. Seems like they were almost in a 5-2 formation. Good stuff. Props to Jackson and McGee on the Bills, wasn’t their fault, that’s for sure.
Kiwi's speed + power > everyone else right now
He’ s playing possessed coming off the edge after the QB.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I've noticed both Kiwi and Osi coming off the edge so quickly
that I think that they’re offsides.
Team Greg Jones
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously...
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Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Osi was timing the snap count
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
no doubt. Its just a thing of beauty to watch.
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Although I expected him to do better against Hairston
That guy was real slow in the combine and at Clemson. Never saw him as a LT. Maybe he got in shape.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Agreed. Thought he struggle against a speed rush
but the dude proved me wrong…good for him
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats what his whole game is predicated on.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Osi is my main-man...
I think everyone knows that but there a couple of plays where he looked like he was offsides. He is fast but….
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 17, 2011 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they got him on a one year deal right?
over at the end of this year? they need to pay that man. this is going to be another interesting offseason with the contracts that are up. TT, Osi, Kiwi, Manningham… any im missing?
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Osi has 2 years left.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
our D line
is extremely powerful. Tuck, Osi, JPP with Kiwi Tollefson as the depth. Id have to say we have the best D line in the league. Lions are close but nowhere near as us.
I'd also give a wet willie to Travis Beckum
I had been on the support Beckum stance for quite some time, but am now moving towards the, “Ok man, seriously…do something. If you aren’t catching balls, at least block, and I didn’t even see him do that”
Team Greg Jones
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
as soon as we let him go...
He breaks out . book it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Really?
I am not going to sit and rack my brain about this, but who was the last Giant to go to another team and blow up?
by eyerish9299 on Oct 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Tiki Barber
He left the Giants for somebody else and then imploded….
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that would mean he blew in, so technically eyerish is still right
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Hes in the wrong system
He gos to GB,NE,Colts and so on , forget about it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Wrong System
soooooo let him go……he’s been useless here
by Cruz Control on Oct 17, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
is the wrong system making him fall down flat without contact?
it’s like he puts engine grease on his cleats
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
Or...
now bear with me here.. he’s just not that good! I’ve never seen anything from him. I don’t care what Reese and KG said on draft day, he’s just not that good.
by eyerish9299 on Oct 17, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't know why he hasn't been better
He was friggin awesome at Wisconsin
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It College ball...
one of the questions on players is always “How will he adapt to the bigger, faster, smarter NFL”
by eyerish9299 on Oct 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
lots of college players
were awesome in college. Not all succeed in the NFL
Visanthe
Shiancoe comes to mind. but that was a few years ago.
yeah he stepped up once he left
Took him 2 years in MINN to become a big offensive weapon. But he wasn’t really bust for the Giants. They used him mostly as a blocker and was playing behind Shockey for a few years. They let him walk as a free agent and drafted Boss.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ehh...
Had 1 good year when Favre went nuts, other then that his numbers have been Bossian.
by eyerish9299 on Oct 17, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
not a good example
Ryan Grant was 4th on the depth chart. He wasn’t going to play in the Giants backfield with Jacobs, Ware and newly drafted Bradshaw.
Seriously?
Seriously? Cameron Wake? He was out of the NFL for 3 years! Can’t count him against the Giants.
by eyerish9299 on Oct 17, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he was on the giants at one point
they let him go and he eventually became awesome.. wasnt that the requirement?
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if 'blow up' is the phrase I'd use
but both Ryan Grant and Visanthe Shiancoe have done pretty well.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
ESPN = Everyone Spewing Putrid Nonsense
by BleedBigBlue on Oct 17, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Schanco in Minny
He’s been a productive TE, better than Shockey and Boss I’d say. Nothing spectacular but really solid though.
Ryan Grant, though we cut him for AB so it was still a good decision by the GMen
back in the day, Easy Eddy McCaffery blew up in Denver after the G-Men and Niners cut him.
But no big losses from guys we’ve cut just a few that’ve panned out better than expected.
prolly coulda subbed him for Ward and not lost anything
prolly would’ve gained something.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
The only player who left us in recent times and had any success was Shockey
Aftrer leaving the Giants Shockey did not too well as a player as much as he thought of himself but he did land in a good system and won (another) superbowl. Now with whatever talent is left is getting wasted in Carolina.
Let's Go Giants!
There's not much talent left... in his legs. They're shot.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
As soon as we let him go
He will be in the CFL. Book it. The guy has not had 1 good game in the NFL.
It used to be that the excuse was that Eli never looked to him, but Eli seems to find Ballard rather nicely. They guy does nothing well. Actually he doesn’t do much even poorly.
fixed.
The guy has not had 1 goodgameplay in the NFL.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
ESPN = Everyone Spewing Putrid Nonsense
by BleedBigBlue on Oct 17, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
good point
It’s obvious Eli is likes to target Ballard. He doesn’t have that same comfort level with Beckum.
Travis was ok blocking
He was targeted once I believe and the throw just missed him….I can still wait on Beckum…
I think he is still sore in his hammy…..the team will get better after the bye health wise.
Not giving up on him...but man, I'm tired of seeing pretty much nothing out of him.
I’d like to see something. Its becoming a lot harder for me to be okay subbing Ballard out for him.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Throw didn't miss him
he stumbled on the turf monster trying to awkwardly turn his body when he didn’t have to. The man is officially bust.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
by bleedblue12 on Oct 17, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he stumbled on the turf monster trying to awkwardly turn his body when he didn’t have to.
Exactly. He had his man beat. All he had to do was maintain his stride and the ball falls into his lap. Instead he opens his hips, almost goes into a backpedal and the ball floats out of reach of his fingertips. Really an awkward looking play.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 17, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Only defenders backpedal in football
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
He is a stiff!
Won’t be here next year, thankfully!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Oct 17, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Wish long day thought he said shockey didn’t have one good play
by Gregjonesformvp on Oct 17, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll give him the rest of the season before I call him a bust
But, he sure walks, talks and plays like one. Since he has drafted here I can’t remember him ever flashing, hope he can prove me wrong but I doubt this guy ever amounts to much.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 17, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I won't call him a bust yet either...really hate that word.
I mean, you got to be Sinorice bad to be a bust haha.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Sinorice
sigh…..
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He's soft, nothing new.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Beckum
Really hard for me to do that. There was one ball thrown in his direction.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose. I dunno, I just get angry when I see him on the field now haha.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like you need some intervention
Anger management intervention that is.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 17, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What About Williams?
I think he is going to be good but he had a rough day yesterday. Took the wrong gap on the 80 yard run and seemed out of place on the 60 yard pass. Not saying dump the guy. Just seems like he isn’t ready for prime time.
hes a rookie
its def going to happen. the kid is ready for the big time. that looked like a mistake of thinking too much. once he can play with instinct and not have to constanly think about what hes doing hes going to be a monster. 10 lbs of muscle wouldnt hurt him either
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
WIlliams is a beast
That play was more on Grant than anyone else….Williams was running just as fast as Ross. JWill is the future!
by DooshLaLoosh on Oct 17, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW Ed, it's Stevie Johnson. Not Jackson. Typos abound lol.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
but that begs the question as to why only one ball thrown his way?
is he having a problem getting open? is he not running routes correctly? is he getting open and not have the confidence of eli to get the ball his way? anyway you look at it, its a problem.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
that's part of the problem.
Eli is not shy about throwing the ball at Ballard. We can’t say the same about Beckum.
beckum = bust.
I’d love to be proven wrong, but he has had the same if not better opportunity as ballard when Boss and SS left. He has done nothing. We have the best TE coach in the NFL, look what Pope has done with Boss and now Ballard (a lesser extent Pascoe). I’m done with the Becks.
with the emergance of ballard
they should try to get beckum in there more as a 3rd or 4th receiver. hes a match-up nightmare
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
But what about Ramses????
lol, isn’t he a matchup monster as well?
you come at the king you best not miss...
haha indeed he is
and id rather have barden in there over beckum every single time. hope ramses can keep himself healthy and on the feild. ive been looking foward to seeing what he can do for 3 years now.
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so sure he's had the same opportunities as the other TE's, he was hurt for a while.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i couldn't agree more
I’m about to give up on the guy- the ball eli sent his way was on the money if he runs through the route to catch over his shoulder. You cannot break that route off to get your body facing the qb, it’s a vertical route. That actually might have made me more angry than the deon grant miss.
Absolutely. Beckum looked very awkward on that pass.
It may not have been on target, but Beckum’s clumsy route running made it look more overthrown than it actually was.
And AARON ROSS should get a KUDO. The guy locked down his side of the field. His name was never called except the few times he was busting up pass plays are bringing down running backs. The guy deserves the props after the beating he took at the start of the year from all of us!
by DJ Farnaquelhe on Oct 17, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i FEEL like im in some alternative universe
with all the Eli praise
I an a huge Fitzy backer but Manning dropped long throws into the bucket all day long. It is eye opening to watch a top QB in terms of throwing ability play vs. Fitz.
Make it stop!!!!!!!!!!!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
From BuffaloRumblings?
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
by bleedblue12 on Oct 17, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
holy bejesus!
a top QB in terms of throwing ability… that cant be Eli Manning can it??? but but but but bu hes so overrated and throws ints and cant lead and doesnt show emotion and isnt elite and looks dumb and isnt payton
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, I think we should give Fewell a Kwillie.
The dude has had some really questionable formations, yeah….but what I’ve noticed, especially in the past two or three games….we really really suck in the first half, but he makes some awesome adjustments in the 2nd half.
We shut it down in the 2nd half.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
How about JPP and Tolly over the center on 4th-and-1?
There is likely a reason every other coach in the world puts big bodies there for the QB sneak.
And teams continue to exploit the coverage with 2 WRs on one side by picking on who is short and who is long.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I agree. I was screaming when I saw JPP line up repeatedly over center.
That cute shit needs to be fixed.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
and by 'fixed'...
we mean “cut off, and a plastic cone put over his head so he can’t nip at the stitches”
by Raptor22 on Oct 17, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
yes.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd raptor..that's funny!
although the action is still loading
JPP Is th best DE in the NFL right now.
If Spags ever get's fired we pounce ASAP.
FreeDa'RellScott!
by Shaunthegiant on Oct 17, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that, too
But I think what happened there was the Giants had theird third-down personnel on the field the play before and because of the circumstance they simply got stuck having to leave those guys on the field. I’m certain it wasn’t what Fewell would have liked in that instance.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Do we really have a huge mauler of a DT that can dominate at the point? We seem to have some decent DTs, but non of them seem to be real strong against the run so far in my opinion.
please noone say Bernard here
did anyone else watch him get washed out and into two other defenders on the Jackson TD?
You wanna blame someone for that play just watch how 95 gets abused opening a hole your gradmother could have run through
You down wit JPP?
Said that during the game thread.
He got pushed backwards a good 5 feet in a split second. He was on ice.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
beat me to it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
He's probably trying to protect Grant instead of just replacing him.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I don't think we shut it down
The Bills were still moving the ball on us pretty easy. Two underthrown balls from Fitz equaled picks that otherwise the defense was beat on. Those both killed good drives they were having against us. I’m impressed with the performance our offense put together, but the defense as a whole I was not happy with.
By that account you would need to review the plays where the offense beat a good defense too
What matters is points, if you’re QB throws a pick the defense is good.
Otherwise we get to call the Seattle game a win? Cause we were driving to win and the Seattle D just kind of lucked into it.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
There's a difference between doing enough to win
and “shutting it down.” That’s the point I’m driving at. CWeb could have dropped those balls etc. He didn’t, he took advantage of the opportunity offered to him. That’s what you have to do to win football games, and I give him credit for that. That is a very different animal than shutting an offense down though. I’m going to take the win and be happy about it, but I’m not going to pretend the defense came out of it smelling like roses to me.
On the Seattle game the Giants played some bad football all the way around, we didn’t deserve to win that game driving at the end or not. Really only the seabirds own ineptitude kept us in that one. A very different game from the Bills game where I feel the offense really put together a nice game, I just don’t feel the same about the defense.
with ya on that
While the O put together a decent game, our D gives me fits… and honestly lets see the Offense do it against some better defenses before we get too happy.
I’m glad we got the win, but today is Monday and there is work to be done…
Go Big Blue!
I'd have to give a Wet Willie
to the Bear. It seemed the only time I heard his number called was on holding penalties.
Quinn must go !!
Pascoe
Did a good job for the most part, except for the two penalties.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't normally hear the FBs number except on penalties
Truth is Bear was a big part of why Ed is giving the OL kudos. He appeared to be the biggest difference to me. He isn’t the most forceful FB there ever was, but he was at least making contact with his man and plugging him for long enough to give Bradshaw a chance. Hynoski was just flat out missing guys and letting them come clean through. On passing plays Bear also did a much better job of picking up the blitzer than Hynoski had been doing.
I'm with Ed on Perry
- man rush is just stupid with all the pass rushers on this team. We were only up by 3 and we are in a 3 man rush Come On Man.. Thank god Jpp is a beast.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Maybe he knows JPP is a beast too!!
Not to mention we should be able to get pressure with 3 considering who the 3 people are.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
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NOPE!
Constant pressure with 3? Not going to happen. Do the math. 2 of three get a guaranteed double team, and the third probably gets help from a TE/RB.
by eyerish9299 on Oct 17, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Two of our linemen are guaranteed double teams anyway. regardless.
Constant pressure with 3?
Dont know where i said anything about “Constant pressure”. Can a 3 man line work? sure, all game? i doubt it.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Three vs. 5 or 6 blockers
I don’t care who the three are, you aren’t getting pressure very often.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
With three guys?
C’mon man! He used it too much yesterday, period!
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by Great Gatsby on Oct 17, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly though, I think we'd be okay with that formation....
if only our extra defender in the secondary weren’t friggin Deon Grant.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
the results were not bad
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
It did result in a sack
JPP’s if I’m not mistaken.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 17, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
that was a coverage sack
it took a good 7 count to get to him.
With this secondary, that is not a good plan.
You down wit JPP?
BIG UPS! To Osi...
Osi is playing like a man possesed. He deserves KUDOS. He kept on coming and putting pressure all game long. He needs a better LB support – behind him – to not look so bad on running plays….
Has ever not played possessed??
nothing new.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
+72 to all of this...
except for the last line.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 17, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How about Cruz dropping the 1st down like in the Washington game?
He’s fighting Manningham for the “Most inconsistent” label
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
No way
He’s already way better than Moss ever was. Cruz has 21 receptions for 398 yards and 3 tds this year. Moss has 39 catches for 421 yards and 3 tds for his career. One bad week does not make someone inconsistent.
Agree with these
Would of been great if Ham cought that pass. He should of held on to it but I’m not gonna go too nuts, he still had a good game.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
Wet Willies to the umpires
My new cause. Lead the league in team sacks. Zero holding calls on the pass rush so far (I believe). Another great video of an OL (levitre) with a fistful of jersey (Osi?).
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Osi gets held on 80% of the plays...
If they called everyone, the game would never end.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 17, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We are in no place to complain about the refs
We got some very favorable calls. We got away with crap like JWill tackling the receiver with the ball still behind him and n the flip got lots of PI calls in our favor. Holding was happening both ways and has been around the league, we aren’t singled out.
Complaining about the Refs is pointless
Stuff ain’t changing
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Gotta disagree with Perry Fewell
After the big run the Giants gave up about 65 Yds on the ground for the next 3 1/2 quarters..
They also held Buffalo to 10 points for 3 1/4s following the 2 big plays( not Fuel’s falt)
He made they adjustment to more man coverage leading to the 2 int’s…. So Big ol Kiwilli more me…
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Agreed. Though like peeps (and Ed) are saying up there
stop with the stupid formations.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hes protecting his secondary
Like Ed said Corey was beat on both plays, just was an under throw…also Grant is a liability, i might drop 8 guys too with the way the secondary has been playing.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
If thats the case the every corner is "beaten" at all times
If a pass is put in the correct spot then its a completion, if not int. CW was in his hip pocket on both passes.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Needs to fix the obvious
Openings in the zone when WRs are stacked on one side. See the Roosevelt play. See Rolle several times last few weeks. We need to change how we follow WRs from the LOS and where/how coverage drops off.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Same Question
Ed,
I’m going to ask the same question I asked you last week.
Do you think the Giants should be playing Tyler Sash as their 3rd Safety a lot more? At least if he makes a mistake he has a valid excuse (rookie), and he’ll bring a lot more speed and energy to the position than Grant is bringing right now.
There’s absolutely no excuse for a veteran like Grant to be making so many mental mistakes. Good veterans need to be able to make up mentally what they are lacking in their diminishing physical skills, and right now Deon is not doing that, so he’s a total liability.
Not sure Sash is the answer....yet.
I really hope Justin Tryon is as good as advertised. I’d keep him, Rolle, KP, Cweb, and Aaron out there.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Tryon
Hey, I hope Tryon works out well too, but the dude is tiny and he does nothing to help out in run support. Sash is a thumper who would undoubtedly make a better show of tackling a RB about to break out into the open.
No doubt....though if we had 3 solid coverage guys
Rolle could play closer to the line and take over that role.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Sash
I’m not sure about that. One of the problems w/Grant is lack of speed. Sash dropped to the sixth round of the draft b/c he also lacks speed, so it’s tough to say. I think what I’d like to see is Amukamara on the field w/either him or Justin Tryon in the slot, Antrel Rolle back in center field and Grant off the field in obvious passing situations.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not going to be easy
to do, down the road, going to be difficult to make substitutions against the likes of
NE, NO and GB….All will try to run hurry up offenses. Heck, even Dallas was doing it yesterday.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Oct 17, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Against those teams you usually run a nickel as base
So you can start with the extra CB, and if it gets them to run more, we have succeeded
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
What do we run now?
90% of the time?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Oct 17, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know this year
In 2010, the stat I saw was nickel 55% of the time, base set 45%, but Remember that’s over all plays
The key is getting Rolle back to S. increases the speed in the back end a ton.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Yes. They are allowed after this week, I think
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Koets
is he healthy enough to contribute
by Cruz Control on Oct 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
dottino said ...
that while he’s seen Barden running on the side, he hasn’t seen Koets really at all
TeamJPP
Barden
wonder if they’ll activate him on game day
by Cruz Control on Oct 17, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
you and me both
but i think the more prudent question is….I wonder if they’ll let Barden practice?!
like Ct17 said below me, if these guys don’t start praticing soon they gonna have to IR them.
TeamJPP
I think its a 2 week window
from when you are taken off PUP. You either have to put the player on the active roster or IR them. That happened with Tyree in 2008, he was on PUP but still not healthy enough to be activated, so they IRed him. Seems like Barden will be practicing once he is taken off, Koets.. have not heard anything about him.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think your right
3 weeks sounds right
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Oct 17, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
it is 3 weeks
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought you couldnt even practice with the team until after you came off the PUP
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by Larry Soprano on Oct 17, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
After 6 weeks
They can practice now. Then we have until week 10 I think to put them on the roster or IR.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
what you said
did not see you already stated it, my bad
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Decided to grab a shot of this, just because
Grant is the player on the far right of the pic, he was lined up 20 yards off the ball at the snap. Jackson has a full head of steam already at this point. Maybe I’m being a homer (or maybe I’m setting my expectations too low), but Jackson is way too good a running back to expect Grant to make a tackle in that kind of space.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
Interesting to note, though...Jacquain Williams actuallly ran FJax down from behind.
Kid is fast.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
wrong
look at the play again. watch 95 get washed out. that is how the run happened
You down wit JPP?
Bernard actually trips on JWill just saying
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
I think this is when they were
running the 4-2-5 with only Boley and Williams as LBs, they were on the otherside of the field.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
4-2-5 under vs a run formation?
That’s asking for trouble.
IIRC
JWill got caught plugging the wrong A gap and got washed out.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 17, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, that's wrong
He hit the B gap. But there was no runner. Looks like he and Boley lined up right next to each other.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 17, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The play looks well covered initially. If you were going to “blame” someone, I think it has to be Williams, who stutters his feet and goes left, which opens a big hole up the middle. One could question why he’s in that position in the first place, but thats another story. Ross and whoever the other corner is up top are both playing man and have their backs turned… so once Jackson is through the line its one on one with Grant. Thats a tall order.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 17, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Bernard lacing up his roller skates should volunteer for some of the blame as well
But yeah, JWill getting washed at the line and Grant forgetting he plays football all contributed to the only highlight that the media will show from the game.
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by Larry Soprano on Oct 17, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
said the same thing on another post. Rocky got blown halfway across the field on that one. Plays like that don’t happen without multiple breakdowns at different positions.
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by BleedBigBlue on Oct 17, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
said that same thing on the game thread, he was on skates.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt even see that initially
You can really see it from the end zone view… boy did he get blown up there.
I dunno, its not like I think Grant is an all pro or something… I just hate to see so much “oh god he’s terrible” after a play like that. Same thing happened to Ross earlier in the season… all the talk about how bad he sucks, I go back and look at the plays in question and its not nearly as awful as we make it to be.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 17, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny Phillips
shoots the gap in between the line and Williams and misses the tackle. I think that’s him, I can’t see the number too well. Then it’s off to the races. Bad angle, maybe not tackle but you can try to contain/slow him down. Williams does look fast.
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by Give it to 44. on Oct 17, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Since the Nickle package is our new base....Our run fits have to be perfect or that will happen every time
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I have no idea why your asking me that.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Thats what I was thinking
I won’t speak to good / bad defensive strategies or alignments, but playing man on the outside with a single safety lined up 20 yards deep… better at least slow the runner down at the line, or this is what is going to happen. There ARE no “reinforcements”.
Grant did what he could, he moved to his left, forcing Jackson towards the two corners and sideline. In that kind of space, with the runner full speed ahead, you’re doing pretty good if you can even get a hand on him.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 17, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Does a MLB is ever used in Fewell's system? I guess Grant is the MLB?
I had it with his playing/formations. Very frustrating bro!
Yea when his name is Goff
When his name is Jones, he avoids him like the plague.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
He didn't need to tackle him so much as to
make him slow down to make a move! At least then someone else could have caught him.
by DieHardGiants on Oct 17, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Where can you grab screen shots from the game like that?
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 17, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I look them up on youtube, or the game highlights on NFL.com
hit pause, take a screenshot, and cut the image out. You can use Paint to do it, nothing real fancy required.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 17, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
To take a screenshot, btw
just hit “shift + printscreen”. That’ll create an image of your screen on your clipboard, which can be pasted into paint, or whatever.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
you'se is a smart man
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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Grant was likely dead no matter what
He just made it look bad.
No deep completions, though.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
His only responsibility in that situation is to slow the runner down
so that reinforcements can make the tackle. He missed badly.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Very Badly
Sash is waaaay more reckless with his body and should be the safety in that situation.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
The problem is
Grant rushed at him too quickly and ran right by him.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 17, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Cweb may have been beat for a second
but when Buffalo throws that many slants and quick releases to the inside….he’s trying to take away the inside route and force SJ to the outside.
smart play call on the TD by Buffalo…
TeamJPP
Yea CWeb got toast on that one
He more than made up for it though
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 17, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitz played a lot better than I expected
He was getting that ball out QUICK in the first half
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 17, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Stevie Jackson looked very Plaxico-esque on that TD...
…and roasted CWeb like he was Ellis Hobbs in Super Bowl XLII. It was a downright nasty move, the football equivalent of breaking a defender’s ankles.
by Step up and make big plays on Oct 17, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Stevie Johnson looked good too. LOL.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson, Jackson, B, Wonder...who cares.
He cut like a knife on that play.
by Step up and make big plays on Oct 17, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, he did. I was just laughing cuz both you and Ed keep calling him Stevie Jackson.
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"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it's what happenes
when you defending the slant route all day long
wish Cweb got a jam on him instead of giving him a free pass….but these things happen
still held STEVIE to 39 yards on the game….and he was targetted A LOT.
TeamJPP
I agree 100% Ed
Ballard, what an under the radar type he is becoming. If his play continues, teams will have to respect the middle, which will allow more on the outside!
Lol dude...
U have all these gifs and random pictures that makes perfect sense for what were talking about saved or do u search for and find them each time? Either way, keep it up brother i love it
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I spend all my waking hours
scanning the inter-google for all possible contingencies. My hard drive is a mess!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
might i ask
how big is your hard drive?
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
by NJsandman on Oct 17, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let's just say that I would give Stok's package a run for his money
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
so is mine. Terrabite internal hard drive, only 110 Gb free. Whoops.
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Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
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Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
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SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 17, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you tryin to tell me
That Eli has a 3rd down safety valve not named Smith or Boss? What is this world coming to?
On a serious note, Ballard has blown away my expectations. Kid is a freaking tank. Hes going to earn quite a nice living catching eli manning passes inbetween the hashmarks.
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Massive kudos to Ballard.
Dude is THE most efficient receiver in football at the moment. 17 targets, 15 catches, for 18ypc (2nd among TE’s), or 16 yards per target (best in the league among ALL receivers, by better than 2 yards, better than the next TE by almost 5 yards. ).. He’s not getting the targets that other TE’s get, but he’s outplaying them.
Also, I almost feel sorry for any DB that has to tackle him. they’re seriously giving up almost 100lbs. That HAS to be a “aww… this is gonna suck!” moment.
He act baby soft on his blocking sometimes too.
and thats what he is supposed to be good at lol, weird turn of events but ill take it.
I know he will get his blocking back where it was, nice to see him catching passes like that though.
Kudos to the best TE coach in the league, Pope is the man.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Blocking
Hes got the size and strength to block efficiently. Just has to get that technique down. Blocking is almost a 75/25 split between technique and strength. If ur blocking technique is top notch, u can get away with not being the strongest.. Beckums only hope. But u can be the strongest guy out there but without the technique youll get beat every time. Ballard will get that technique down with pope teaching him. I think we may have a seriously good TE on our hands here fellas
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
imagine what he could do. . .
if Eli threw an accurate ball
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
Eli is a machine.
Of the interception variety of course…
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
unpossible
The Int Machine only throws ducks!
We need to go draft Stephen Garcia so we can get some consistent QB play! Get it done Reese!
hahaha. We sure could use some drunkenness at the position...
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
We had kerry collins
Thats enough drunkenness at one position for at least another 10-20 years
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess its too late for the Giants to
“Suck for Luck”
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Would have to lose to Miami to start the ball rolling.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
He def leads the league
in “Receptions Made While Standing Still Because The Defense Forgets About You”
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 17, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to toot my own horn here...
Because I know that kind of thing is frowned upon in this establishment, but just wanted to point out this post I made a few (four) long weeks ago…..
Okay, back to soaking up the knowledge at the feet of legends…..
God
why can’t I post a link or do anything within posts to save my life on this forum!!
Anyway, here is link:
Canty
is it just me, or did he not play much at all yesterday? I hardly remember seeing him on the field. Hope he isn’t banged up.
now that you mention it,me either
and how did Jaiquan totally overtake Greg Jones so decisively for reps..wonder if it’s permanent
JPP Is th best DE in the NFL right now.
If Spags ever get's fired we pounce ASAP.
FreeDa'RellScott!
by Shaunthegiant on Oct 17, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
cantys job is more
about sucking up blockers so other can make plays. his stat sheet will never be too impressive.
on a realted note… i was at the game yesterday in section 331 row 2o so it was a little tough for me to see individual line performances… howd Linval do??
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean that figuratively
I meant it literally… like I don’t think he had more than 10 snaps the whole game… not he didn’t show up or play hard or anything like that. I saw Joseph a lot (who did what he do… ate) up space) and Rocky, but very little Canty.
I think the best compliment I can give Linval is he never gets blown off the ball, I always see him hold his point, if not drive the OL back. Pretty much the definition of a space-eater.
Anyone else have flashbacks to the SD game from '09?
This one had a much more favorable result, thankfully.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
I thought that too
it was a lil scary
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 17, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
we saw a different #23 yesterday
then was on the field against SD
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
not really....
but i know if people are remembering a TD that a Corner gave up 2 years ago he must have played pretty darn good since then….
TeamJPP
I was thinking more of our O settling for a FG after having 1st and goal to go with less than 2 min to play
But yeah CWeb stepped up yesterday
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Oct 17, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
was talking about that very same thing
My dad and myself were at that one, and that was the only thing being said in the 4th
You down wit JPP?
Well I agree with Eds assessment..We all saw it happen on the field..
We didn’t do it totally pretty, gave up two huge plays..but they won..and my dream for yesterday came true..Dallas lost, the Eagles won, we won and now head into the bye week in first place..
Concerning Fewell..I just don’t understand that guy and what it is he is trying to do..I don’t think he does either..His defensive sshemes are totally assinine…With all those pit-bulls we have he instead has them back off..Against Fitzgerald??? Unreal, we should have had 20 sacks..Instead I had to drink twenty beers, now I’m not complaining about the beer but Fewell needs to use the talent he has just like I do for Pete’s sake..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
No idea what's going on with PF
but I do recall when he was hired there was a sticking point between he and TC, of him calling plays from the sideline vs. the booth.PF strongly preferred booth,TC strongly preferred to have it his way.Could this matter at all?
JPP Is th best DE in the NFL right now.
If Spags ever get's fired we pounce ASAP.
FreeDa'RellScott!
by Shaunthegiant on Oct 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes it was Sheridan..He wanted to be near the concession stands..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
he wanted to be safe from
having fans pelt him with with anything available
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 17, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he would have been way more effective
in line for hotdogs then trying to run a defense
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
iirc, Fewell said
he likes the view and calling plays from the booth, but also likes being around the players, so he would do whichever.
by Raptor22 on Oct 17, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Tynes deserves a rare good mention from me..
He has been drilling the ball this year…I haven’t had to run into the bathroom for a wad of toilet paper at all so far this year..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Oct 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I really do not know how to respond to the image...
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
and that makes us all happy
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Oct 17, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
that could be a steal for them
JPP Is th best DE in the NFL right now.
If Spags ever get's fired we pounce ASAP.
FreeDa'RellScott!
by Shaunthegiant on Oct 17, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Just in time to play againat the Cowboys
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Oct 17, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Fewell
I think a lot of us want to dump on Fewell from what we’ve seen from this D this year and I was doing it during the game yesterday but I think we need to consider a few things first.
He lost more than a starting CB it TT, he lost two guys in Witherspoon and PRince who would of provided depth and the ability to play nickle CB and in a leauge with 3 4 WR sets routinely used that makes a big differance. Hence our best playmakin saftey is forced to play in the slot and not surpport the run, cant blitz as much, and is not playing Center field. I think this explains some of the Vanella zone coverage 10 yards off the ball as well he’s being cautious becasue he just does not have the horses to be more agressive.
Tuck and no Goeff. These guys jam up the run very well. Yes Jones has potential and Williams looks like he’ll be a starter some day but they do not provide the run support that Goeff did and JPP is a stud but run D is something that takes time for a D End to excell at and JPP is not at Tucks level yet. So our Best Run D LB is out as is our best Run D DE and our best blitzing and run support saftey is forced to pay slot corner oh and our past blitzing corner is on IR. Notice how when Rolle is comming up to support the run our run D drastically improves, he’s a good tackler that takes good angels and has excellent insticts. Take him out of the mix and the Run D will sturggle.THrow in the fact Dion Grant aged dramaticlly form 2010 to 2011 and it’s kinda hard to kill Fewell.
I doubt this is the type of D Fewell imanged he’d be working with when the season started. NIckle backs off the street, Pro Bowl saftey playing Corner, two best front seven run stuffers out for either the entire Season or most of it so far. I think the individual talent on D JPP, Osi, C-Web is making some plays but the injuries have hurt this team more than we know from a scheme standpoint and
Yes he lost some guys to injury..every team does..
But Fewell has a welath of talent that are healthy..a three man rush against Fitzgerald?..gime a break..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The Coach's get paid to improvise
You never keep your starting 11 the entire season. Admittedly the injuries have been significant to the defense but Fewell has to be innovative and aggressive to cover the holes. You can’t be a playoff team trying to protect a certain weakness, you have to try to make it a strength by doing something unexpected.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you guys are a bit too hard
few coaches can improvise when one position like CB gets destoryed with injury, while your only good run stuffing LB is on IR. O yea and one of the best defensive players in the league has barley played.
If Tuck misses one or two games or if TT missed a game or two or even a guy like Kiwi gets knocked out for the season like last year at a position in which we’re three deep at those are injuries that can be overcome but lets get real the talent you guys speak of is just not there becasue of the injuries.
We can’t stop the run because we don’t have a capable MLB on the team, our best run stopping DL has barley played, our best saftey is playing CB half the time.
We struggle in the passing game becuase a safte is playing CB and an old man is playing saftey.
The talent you guys speak of maniefestss itself on ocassion, a handful of sacks some picks but it does not fully make up for the holes.
I would love to see how good GB’s D would have been last season had Mathews missed most of the season. Woodson been knocked out for the season and two of his backups missed the season.
I hear you had Goeff been the only season ending injury you can mask that with agressive creative saftey play but not when you have little to no flexability in your defensive backfiled because of more injuries and oh yea TUCK is not on the field.
Fewell
Had a healthier unit last year. I don’t know if you watched but, they weren’t that good then because of some of his formations. Sounds like the same issues this season. He doesn’t seem to understand how to utilize what he has to it’s potential.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
Yea guy I watched this Sunday was not my first Giants game and they were pretty good
In 2010 he had a shitty game plane vs Indy. They played like crap at home vs Dallas and vs GB and the final 7 mins against Philly which was more on the players than the scheme Fewell had. The D was very good outside of those games last year, not sure if you watched.
Yea Tuck covering Celek 40 yards downfield
was a genius scheme. Having your kick return team completely caught with their pants down on an onside kick was awesome coaching as well. I could go on but I think I made my point.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
he's been a pansy all season
injuries or not, he is so concerned with giving up the big play that he forgets to do what this D is built to do… pressure the ball.
This DB 20 yards downfield thing is infuriating, a 3 man rush when protecting a 3 point lead? The guy keeps moving people around the field into areas of weakness, case in point JPP at Tackle? Rolle is not a CB don’t play him like one. Grant was excellent for us last year, in run support, not 20 yards downfield.
His inventive wrinkles produce nothing for us. He has yet to confuse any OC’s. And I for one can’t wait for someone to scoop him up as a head coach at the end of the year.
You down wit JPP?
Rolle is playing CB not becasue Fewell is comming up with a wrinkle
its becasue we have 3 CBs out so he’s our only option, after C-Web and Ross we don’t have any other viable options I mean nothing CC Brown, Aaron ROuse types. I ‘m not sure what Giants fans expect its not like quality CBs are just floating around out there. I know it’s fustrating but the Giants only have 2 viable CBs which is forcing them to use their best saftey out of position weaking that position no run stopping LBs and without Tuck our Dline is ok, fine at rushing the passer but not great at run D
Talent wise its an ok defese, performance wise its been ok.
In regards to the big plays sure he’s been a bit conservative to prevent the big plays but part of that is due to the talent drain not sure you want CBs off the street in man coverage while they’re brining the house and I’m sure TC has insturcted him to improve upon the big plays from last season so Fewell is adjusting.
Not to keep pounding on you but
JPP at tackle, was it not the great Steve Spags that did that with a young Justin Tuck in 07 to get as many good pass rushers on the field as possible in passing situations and we all thought how genius that was?
Guards and Centers are not as good of pass blockers as OTs so it puts a lot of pressure on them in passing situations and it gives you a better chance of getting to the QB while keeping guys back in coverage. JPP is our biggest and most physical DE so he can handle the inside while keepin Osi and Kiwi at ends to rush. Not sure why thats such a bad decsion.
If it's an obvious passing down
I would love to see who could stop Tuck and JPP on the inside with Kiwi and Osi off the edges? The QB might as well take a knee!
That's one of Fuels biggest problems
He thinks that because Tuck is good at it any DE can do it and that couldn’t be further from the truth.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
That's why Prince's return is big
He’s the only guy coming back after the bye who can make a big difference. If he understands what to do, he can be the nickle and let Rolle go back to safety.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 17, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
don't get too excited
even if there had been no lockout, even if Prince had been in camp for a full session, he’d probably be seeing limited opportunities under Clawfin. Given the banged-up secondary, yes, he’d be out there, but he wouldn’t be supplanting Ross (rightfully so, Ross has proven so far) so he might be a dime cb at best. Look for him to start having an impact next year.
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 17, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed...The secondary isn't as bad as everybody is
complaining about anyway..just piss poor coverage calls..they are not doing their jobs consistently…and that all on Puff Farts (PFs) shoulders…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
A nick name for the ages!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 17, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Prince or Grant?
Agreed, Prince is behind the learning curve, but… He did play for a big time college which gives him a basis for understanding the pro game, and presumably he’s been studying and attending meetings all this time. Who would you rather have out there in a passing situation, him or Grand?
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 17, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
the question is not what I think is best
The question is what Clawfin thinks is best. And if you think he’s going to put a rookie with no training camp, never mind no reps, on the field in front of a guy who’s a veteran and has been in our system for a few years, ya don’t know clawfin like I know clawfin!
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 17, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd hope he push Rolle back to safety as the 3rd CB
Which given Prince’s rep as a physical CB makes a ton of sense
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I know Diehl didn't stink it up yesterday
and Boothe didn’t play lights out but does anyone think that having Boothe at LG would be an upgrade ?
I don't know but..
Boothe has proven himself to be one of the best utility linemen in the league..He can play anywhere..and he does a decent job on a moments notice..and he’s backing up more than one position..I don’t think too many teams have a guy that can do that..That’s why I adore the Phonebooth..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
i thought boothe played lights out yesterday
i would give him the next start over diehl. def couldnt be any worse and hopefully it will light a fire under davids ass. he was so good just 2-3 years ago.. WTF happend to that guy?
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 17, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Blocked Field Goal Willie or Two?
A couple of questions about the blocked field goal:
1) The more interesting question — could the Giants have recovered the ball if it hadn’t gone into the end zone? Seemed no one was interested in that on the field.
2) Did someone(s) miss a block to allow it to happen?
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 17, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
1) no.
2) You can blame Tynes for not getting it up high enough, or Boothe, who got pushed back by a planned double-team against him, but it is what it is.
Well Tynes had the right height on it..the line got caved in
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
agreed
he couldn’t get it up much more and hope to get 51 yards. And I can’t really fault Boothe… it looked like a called play where 2 DT’s both targeted him and drove him back, allowing the one to get his arm up. I say, good ST play Buffalo more than anything else.
Why not?
Didn’t the Iggles or somebody once recover their own blocked field goal againsty us and run it into the end end zone?
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 17, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ummmmm KP
On the Jackson td run…KP shld have nailed Fred in the Backfield,but he slowed down while stepping left instead of running thru Jackson….that left Grant in the middle of the ocean alone !
Silly me ..I'm just a Fan
by Mr.Williams on Oct 17, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
KP was the guy flying at Jackson when he broke through the line. Literally Kenny was in the air trying to slow down Jackson
it just didn’t happen
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
Correction- "Stevie Johnson", not "Stevie Jackson"
can’t believe no one caught this before me, but its in the corey webster section
Can we get a nickname for Ballard?
My vote goes to “Ballardrina”
Dont judge….im at work and dont have access to photoshop
I'll go along with this as long as I don't have to be there when
You show this animal this picture..lol…“Hey Jake, waddaya think?..”..bye bye slappinfaces!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think
kenny phillips played a great game yesterday
The Cowboys are too pitiful to hate anymore but I enjoy it.
Little things we should be thankful for
Ballard, great surprise. Just funny to watch the Rhino lumber down the field. I think Stacey Andrews ran faster on the play where he was eligible.
Boothe – The Pascoe of this year. Not great but doing so many things pretty well.
Weatherford. Remember when we held our breaths with Dodge. But Dodge’s mom loves him. Weatherford’s consistency is real soothing.
ABrad. He is able to pick up for BJ. We thought he could but he is doing it well and only 1 fumble this year. All credit to him for running and getting the OL motivated.
Baas. This guy is really good in terms of being a road grader. What a difference with him in there. Hope we keep him for some time forward, a real CENTER post, pun intended.
Some things we’re not happy about. As above, I kept saying WTF is Fewell doing with no blitzes. Someone suggested that if Spags gets canned, we take him as DC. I am beginning to think that is a good move.
Grant. Are you kidding me? Get Sash ready, start giving him a few snaps. He is clearly lost out there, not enough speed and mentally unsound.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 17, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with everything you said here Unknown...
I did think Grant had a reasonable game for the most part…but that angle he took stunk..He should know better..Can’t let that happen, your asking for it…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Boothe was good yesterday.
And Grant needs to be moved up rather than dropped off the line. He’s good in run support, not so much in coverage.
You down wit JPP?
Kevin who?
Big Bossman’s stats through his first 6 games last season: 12 rec. 200 yards, 0 TDs
Ballards stats this season(6 gms) : 15 rec. 273 yards, 2 TDs.
i know there’s still a learning curve on the blocking front, but i think we can safely and happily close that chapter of our TE life. btw, Ballard is 4 years younger as well.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Agreed..and remember Boss sucked as a blocking tight-end..But I must say..
I was happy for Kevin yesterday when he caught that touchdown pass..He was a blue collar worker for us, and I wish him the best…Especially now that I know we have a beast that needs to be uncrated before each game and fed raw meat from dead terrorists before kickoff..You see that guy’s teeth?…fuck he would scare off ‘Jaws’ if he encountered him in the ocean..that fucking fish would take off like a bat out of hell..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Boss was good at blocking
Run blocking at least
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
absolutely
i just don’t know how his game will improve now with the backup slinging that thing for dah reydurs. he may have to get all his catches from the punter.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
We all saw AB play his ass off yesterday..
He was relentless…but what impressed me just as much as his running and TDs..was his cover blocks for Eli..He was de-cleating people out there..very good stuff..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
3-4 or 4-3?
I will apologize if I’m worng on this but I will throw this out there. I live in western,pa and I only get certain games ( steelers and maybe an eagles game) but when cbs finally put on the giants game I immediatly switched from wfan to the tube and I could almost guarantee that the defense was in 3-4 alignments for the latter part of the 4th quarter. Now I’ve heard of dropping back a d-lineman from time to time but it almost felt like 3 d-linemen were lining up and there were 4 “lbs” in coverage. I know Fewell had some interesting packages and even said that he was going to take the best from both but 3-4 packages to ice off the game?
its all or nothing
At times we did run with 3 on front in the game
Scroll up and it was discussed by several people on this page. It might help you understanding what defense was doing on the field.
Let's Go Giants!
I said in the preseason after a few games...that Ballard has soft hands
and that I personally think we are fine at TE with him in there. Yes, I had already moved on from the Boss man. I didn’t think we would miss a beat with Ballard, but would be getting more than Boss. A whole year left to see if it pans out still, but I will easily gamble on that.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Boothe is getting robbed here
they ran behind him all day long
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
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