New York Giants News And Notes: Fewell Talks About Defensive Woes
by Ed Valentine on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 AM EDT
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PrintLots of stuff to get out there for you this morning, New York Giants' fans. So, here are your morning news and notes.
Giants' defensive coordinator Perry Fewell used to hold that same job in Buffalo, as well as a short stint as Bills' interim head coach. He downplayed any connection he had to Buffalo, though,' saying "It’s just a game that we have to win."
To win it, Fewell's defense, ranked a disappointing 20th in the league in yards allowed per game, will have to play better.
"We're trying to learn how to play together. That's the biggest problem that I think we have right now, learning how to play together. So yes, my focus is more on us than it is the Buffalo Bills because we have to learn how to compliment each other and we don't know how to compliment each other at this point in time," Fewell said. "What you see is we have some youth back there in our linebacker corps. Then with some of the guys moving in and out, we're not consistent. I said that to you last week. We're not a consistent defense."
Fewell told reporters Thursday that he might have players wear wristbands in order to make sure they all get the calls correctly. I don't know all the technical aspects of defensive schemes, but all I can say to that is if professional players have to wear wristbands to figure out what the defense is then whatever they are supposed to be doing is probably way too complicated.
Justin Tuck has not practiced this week due to his neck and groin injuries, and his frustration is evident.
"You worked out in the offseason to prepare your body to have a great year and sometimes these unfortunate things come and you have to take them in stride. That is what I am trying to do," Tuck said. "You definitely want to be out there helping your teammates win. As far as me just wanting to be out there on the football field, it is frustrating for me not to be out there."
Ahmad Bradshaw was asked Thursday whether he is frustrated about the Giants' problems running the ball so far. He said pretty much the only thing he could say.
"I believe in my line and I figure that they get better every week and hopefully this week they are 10 times better," Bradshaw said. "We are going to come out and try our best. Up front, we have to handle them and we have to hit the holes hard."
Much-improved Bills out to erase all doubt vs. Giants - NYPOST.com
"We’re a better team than people think," running back Fred Jackson told The Post yesterday. "We know the doubters are going to be there until we finally get back to the playoffs, and I understand that, but this team is no fluke."
Giants vs. Bills: Jake Ballard, Bear Pascoe, Scott Chandler playing a variety of roles | NJ.com
Last year, they were three tight ends who didn't make the Giants' roster.
To ease wear and tear, Nicks turns to hyperbaric chamber | New York Daily News
Two full seasons in the NFL have taught Hakeem Nicks one thing. By the time December comes around, the wideout's 23-year-old body will be bruised and battered.
"I'm fine now," he says. "But late in the season, you get groin injuries and hamstring soreness. Things like that."
This season, Nicks is going through great lengths to keep himself from that late-season weariness. The latest example? He just purchased a hyperbaric chamber, and he's planning to start sleeping in it later next week.
Simms sees setback in Giants offensive line - NYPOST.com
Working for CBS — which carries primarily AFC games — Phil Simms does not get to call too many Giants games. He watches his former team "as a fan" but when he put on his analyst’s cap for Sunday’s game against the Bills it did not take long for the quarterback to spot the weakness.
"It’s the first note I wrote: The offensive line is not the dominating force I usually see with the Giants ever since Tom Coughlin’s been there," Simms said. "Ever since he’s been there that offensive line’s body of work has been tremendous."
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We’ve already played three pre-season games and five regular season games. I don’t it takes until game six for players to start working better together. My guess is we’ll see more of the same defense on sunday that we’ve seen in the first five games.
the defense
has been inconsistent ever since we lost spags. But what I have noticed is when this post-Spag era D plays well, it really plays well. When it plays bad, it really stinks up the place. I’m hoping for the former on this day. Fewell is also in his 2nd yr so that has to count for something. I believe he has the tools to make us a superbowl-type defense. Our D line is arguably the best in the league and Fewell knows how to attack the passer. If we can keep that facet of our D strong, we can do anything.
for the most part
they play well against lousy teams. Since 2009 we’re 7-10 vs teams with a winning record.
In those 17 games we allow 28.5 points. In the 10 losses we allow 35.8 points. It’s obvious this defense is not very good. They haven’t been good since the first half of 2008.
The 7 wins don’t include any against any upper echelon teams. In 2009 we have two wins vs Dallas and one vs Falcons. Falcons were 9-7 in 2009. Our 2010 wins were vs Bears, Houston and Seattle. Seattle had a winning record (4-3) when we played.
Buffalo is the hotter team
They are really going to bring it to the G-Men on Sunday. I am of course pulling for a Giants victory, but it will be a tough road for them. These guys have got to play better defense and on the other side we have to get that running game going. The Giants are down a lot of great players again this week and it will take a special effort on all sides of the ball to beat what appears to be a real contender in the Bills.
+1
if professional players have to wear wristbands to figure out what the defense is then whatever they are supposed to be doing is probably way too complicated
I completely agree. Most people are blessed with athletic OR intellectual abilities. Not both. We’re asking our players with limited intelligence to play the role of rocket scientists.
Actually thats not really true about intellectual or athletic blessings
It’s related to training. Most people don’t train themselves in tins of different things. The guy who spends 2 hours working on math extra credit isn’t going to have time to practice for the football team.
Life’s about choices, rarely you find someone who is so disciplined they can manage the intellectual and physical rigors.
But you’re right in the big picture, if players are routinely blowing the thinking end, you need to change it, it’s unlikely they are going to get better at it.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I get what you are saying
but every person is blessed with things that come naturally and others they need to work on.
There was a study years ago that boys naturally excel in math and science while girls excel in english. They naturally use different parts of the brain. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.
I excel at drinking beer
and mathematically figuring out what time I have to leave before the wife gets home and I won’t get caught.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Hmmm I think the study you're referring to is a bit out of date
The most current research has proven that girls are equally capable as boys in math and science. In fact the most recent data has girls outperforming boys in certain areas of the physical sciences. There is a huge drop off in the number of women that pursue PhD level work in math and the sciences and the explanations to date focus on sociological reasons.
It would explain past underperformance and the current situation.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
disagree
every person that walks this earth naturally excel at some activities and don’t at others. The ones that really succeed are the ones that put in the extra work where they struggle.
Do you really think you’re equal in every facet of your life? Physically, mentally, socially etc?
Growing up I played every sport. I excelled in most sports. Some sports came naturally while others I sucked. In the sports I sucked I either chose not to play or put in extra work to get better. My golf game is average. Without question I practiced more in golf than the other sports combined. I took lesson. Everything. Guess what? I’m still an average golfer. Yet, put a hockey stick in my hands and I’ll shine. Throw me a football and I’ll catch it.
yeah i'm not arguing that everyone has strengths and weaknesses
but to say that most NFL players are unintelligent because they are supremely athletic is just off base
that's why they're professional athletes
I never said they were “unintelligent”.
I said:
limited intelligence to play the role of rocket scientists
The coaches are unquestionably asking their players to think too much. Sports is primarily based on reaction and instinct. When you ask a player to think you minimize their strengths.
I often quote Tim McCarver “Think Long! Think Wrong!”
That certainly applies here and Fewell all but admits it.
I disagree
its WAAY off base.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a fact
the majority of the student athlete in the two major sports are in universities for their athletic ability and not due to their grades or SAT scores. To suggest otherwise is naive or ignoring the obvious.
Cromartie of the Jets has an IQ of 60. An IQ of 50-70 is considered Mild mental retardation. A counselor at FSU was fired because she spoke out asking why are Cromartie and others admitted into FSU when they don’t meet the academic requirements.
Another study was completed recently about multitasking. It is almost impossible for most to multitask by doing something physical and mental at the same time. Many think they can multitask. In reality they can’t.
So, a Rex Ryan defense must be one of the most basic in the league then, right?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Antonio Cromartie is your best argument?
how about Eli Manning? How about John Elway? Andrew Luck? Barry Cofield? Justin Tuck? Aaron Rodgers? Myron Rolle was a Rhodes Scholar.
This is incredibly stupid, probably racist, to suggest that just cuz someone plays sports it means they’re not going to be an intellectual. THere’s plenty of players who are NFL caliber athletes but also incredibly smart. Just cuz you don’t know anyone who’s like that doesn’t mean they’re well represented in professional sports.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Kiwi?
The guy sounds like a college professor.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
LOL, love his interviews.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
& I love JPP's interviews
because its the complete opposite…… Na mean!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Didn't Ryan Fitzpatrick go to Harvard?
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"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Pat McInally got a perfect score on the wonderlic test
He also went to Harvard. Punter / WR for the Bengals in the 70’s.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
of course
there’s always excpetions. There’s exceptions to every rule. You named 7 players out of 1600.
oh I can keep going
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Cmon Gmen
You need to post some stats to back this argument. I can’t imagine Coach K of Duke with a championship team full of unintelligent players. I wouldn’t think that Andrew Luck can’t pass his classes at Stanford,
Quinn must go !!
Jon Goff got an engineering degree at Vandy
in fact…players who get their degree are SMARTER then those who don’t play sports since they obviously can do plenty of things at once.
Its not like someone who’s an “intellectual” is just studying for exams either, more then likely they have a ton of extracurricular things in order to be more well rounded then the next swinging dick.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's one
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/paper-trail/2008/12/30/athletes-show-huge-gaps-in-sat-scores
A Google search returned dozens of studies.
Re: Coach K some schools do maintain high academic standards. Not all schools compromise academics for sports.
and just cuz an athlete made it to a college cuz of their athletic ability
doesn’t mean their not smart. Also SAT scores only get you into college, you’re not exactly a genius cuz you score a 1300-1400 on them.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
no one is suggesting
all college athletes are dumb. Of course their are exceptions. But every study has shown that college athletes SAT scores and grades are lower than the average student body.
thanks for help proving my point
The average student wouldn’t get into many of these schools with SAT scores of 800 but an athlete does.
Actually your point isn't made
Your claim isn’t about what they have learned, it’s what they are capable of learning.
Most people are blessed with athletic OR intellectual abilities. Not both.
And that simply isn’t true. There are plenty of people that have strong intellectual and strong athletic attributes. As for SATs and GPAs, you’ld expect the athletes to have lower GPAs and test scores because they have far less time to devote to honing those skills.
as for Cromartie’s IQ, you should keep in mind that an IQ score is only as good as the seriousness of the test taker. I can imagine how seriously Cromartie attempted that test. It’s the same with the wonderlic. Plenty of these kids show up and don’t want to be bothered. They do it, but they don’t care. Finally, IQ tests in general are frowned on as intelligence measurements because it’s been established that they are culturally biased. they are very useful as diagnostic tools for closed head injuries another trauma to the brain (my lil sis is a Psych. And specializes in that sort of thing).
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
they wouldn't get scolarships, no
but not every college player has an 800 SAT score. And I didn’t prove anything you said.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
different kinds of intelligence
The brain uses basically two methods for decision making; The process that does calculus and physics uses the frontal cortex. The process by which almost all on-field decisions are made (and the one by which we are able to do the necessary physics calculations to see 1/10 of a second of a line drive and go to the right spot at the right moment to catch it) uses dopamine receptors in another part of the brain. A person’s IQ is supposed to measure the first kind. Only sometimes is a high IQ guy a quick thinking player. I am neither.
by NortheastKingdom on Oct 14, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it's waaay more complicated than that
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 14, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ya think?
ha! what I don’t know about the neuro-sciences could fill a book. However, i think what I said about the subject is, however simplified, basically correct and to the point. We need guys who don’t need to process a whole playbook intellectually before choosing which opponent to cover, but who read and react quickly and almost always correctly.
by NortheastKingdom on Oct 14, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
hell yeah
automaticity baby
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I get the point about it being too complicated
But if wristbands will help, then fine. Complicated is good, so if something simple like wristbands can solve the communication / confusion issues then its a stroke of brilliance as far as I’m concerned. They stuffed the run all the way through the preseason and up to the Eagles game, so I have no doubt they can still do that. Just a question of putting it all together now. Even with all the injuries they still have talent and I think they’ll be fine long term. If Tuck is able to come back (which I’m having serious doubts about) they’ll be better than fine.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 14, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions
offenses have become very complicated
so defenses have as well—it’s not just coverage and alignment/stunt packages up front anymore—there is A LOT to know on defenses, and a lot of it has to do with formations—movement of the offense up front.
I don’t think the wristbands are for what PF wants them to do, but how they should align, what they should do based on what the offense is doing (formations, motions, etc.)
is complicated better?
What’s changed is the rules. The rules have allowed offenses to do more.
Lets hope Nicks read's the instruction book
on his new toy. I can just imagine the headlines about a WR who fell asleep in a high oxygen environment and his GF lit up a cigarette.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 14, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
This looks more like somebody lit his fart...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Actually
A drunk Russian who sneezes when the guy next to him is lighting a Cig…
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 14, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
My 11 year old Son plays Pop-Warner..They wear wristbands..
Believe it or not the bands contain 164 plays…Nobody has scored a point against them, in fact no team has produced positve yards..If a Pop-Warner team can be that well the Giants can..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That's just great..one of our receivers (Nicks) will be sleeping in a coffin..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
TO did it
back in his prime, aloud him to play in the Super Bowl and was the best eagle on the field that day
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm..did they win it? Ooops just kidding..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
true no win for them
but he was a huge reason why the game was close. The guy broke his leg in December and was back on the field in January thanks to the chamber.
Hell at this point, half the team should be sleeping in it to stay healthy
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
TO was an absolute FREAK of nature
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
that he was
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps McNabb should have slept in one too
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
But
would that have prevented him from losing his lunch during the 2-minute drill?
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows?
But that’s what I was getting at. I hope we hear the real story one day. Did he party too much during SB week? Was he just sick? Too much Chunky soup?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Poor cardiovascular endurance
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Oct 14, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
true
so many stories about that game, we may never know what really happened. But like Larry said below, Poor cardiovascular endurance, that we found about last year when Shanhan benched him on the 2-minute drill, may have something to do with it
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hot down here in Florida...
I was over at Sam Club and they have a instant ‘Balls’ freezer..which is supposed to keep you cool while mowing the lawn…That product could help me stay strong as the year wears on
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
As GIF's go, this is a true challenge....
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 14, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha!!..I'm sure you'll find one Fester..lol
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Found one...
But would need Ed’s permission to post to avoid banning.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Fewell
I hate the idea that a coordinator comes in with “his system” and imposes it on his team regardless of the strengths of the players. The Giants have corners who are excellent man to man cover guys, and they stink in cover two, plus, the safeties are slow to cover over the top. Yes, the Giants have a lot of new faces on both sides of the ball, but I can accept the slow development on the OLine more than the defense. Apart from Jones and Williams, there is a TON of experience on the defensive side of the ball.
The combination of lack of running game and the D’s inability to get off the field is going to have these guys dead on their feet the last quarter of the season.
Fewell doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground..
Our defense with all that talent has regressed since he tookover…This is the worst Giants defense yet..totally out of synch…damn shame
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Not worse than Sheridan
But not improved enough.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Wow...who pissed in your Cherrio's?
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 14, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, ran out of milk..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This is sort of a pattern around here
Plax went down, and we needed to use a faster but less skilled WR in Hixon. The game plan and the plays didn’t change. The result was inefficiency. Now we have a slew of defensive injuries, and instead of altering the approach to highlight what we have left and hide deficiencies the idea is wristbands.
Is this typical of football coaches, that they are so wedded to their ideas that they can’t flex mid stream?
Even with the injuries, there is a ton of defensive talent on field. Maybe it means taking some more risks, maybe it means abandoning some favorite things (you can’t just plug guys in for JasonTuck and expect similar results).
It worries me, from a psych perspective. When guys fail, it breeds a culture of failure, that’s what happened in2009, it could happen again.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Really Perry?
Learn to play better? Like his fielding 11 rookies is this guy kidding me with that? They have all been playing in this system for 2 years besides 2 guys and they have been in it for 3 months!!
by NYG86-90-07 on Oct 14, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Perry is not getting it
He either is unwilling to change the system, is not getting the ear of JR or Clawfin in the war room or he cannot change because he is too stupid.
I will say this, the year before he became HC at Buffalo and then the first part of the year…..Buffalo had a really good defense. Their offense left them out to dry alot but still good. They did not however have the injuries we have had. But they did not have the talent we have—ever.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I gues any player uner 40 is 'youth' to him
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
1990 comes to mind
lose our starting QB in the last game of the year.
Second string comes in and a coach, forget his name, ehhemm, changes the manner in which we attack a team offensively.
2007….might see a team the last game of the year in the SB.
Let’s try to light up the board with them and see what happens.
Well that did not work, let’s try and punch them in the mouth and see what happens.
Now of course these are aggrandized examples but what the hell do these guys get paid to do.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Good Point
That has always been TC’s & KG’s flaw since the Plax incident failure to play to thier strengths of who is on the field not who was on the field. Never been the same since 08.
by NYG86-90-07 on Oct 14, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its more about in season adjustments when a player is lost
08 – Hixon fill Plax’s role…. bad idea
10 – Hagan fill Smith’s role…. some success but still a huge drop off
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
if Hixon catches a ball or two that happened to slip right through his hands…no one’s talking about “strengths” and how big of a loss Decoy Plaxtopus was.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
There scoring dropped about 10 pts per game after Plax
And it would have been a lot worse without the Carolina game
Can’t be just a couple a dropped passes
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
it absolutely could be, cuz it was
at least in the playoffs it was.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Bigger difference
excluding Carolina game without Plax we averaged 15 points. Including Carolina game 18.2
With Plax 29.9
Actually Simms went down early in the Buffalo game (week 14)
funny how that worked out … Bills knock him out for the season and proceed to lose in the SB to his back up…
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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
hopefully Nicks will start having sleep-overs
maybe our RBs can do a quick mapquest to find out where Hakeem lives?
TeamJPP
Maybe Nicks will buy Michael Jackson joint and get Dr. Murray to help him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I don't get this whole wristband thing?
We’re at home right??
Why doesn’t Fewell just draw up the scheme he wants on the Jumbotron
so everyone knows WTF they’re suppose to do?
Problem Solved!
i just want to see emotion... is that too much to ask for?
i dont care about schemes and missed assignments and all that crap at this point… i wanna see guys getting fired up and getting in each other’s faces…. someone needs to take the lead on the field and rally this defense… they have been soft LITERALLY since michael started hangin out with terry and howie and jimmy…..
bad plays happen and u see these guys on the bench sitting in silence hanging their heads…. michael would be pacing the sidelines getting in each and every player’s face keeping spirits up and keeping this team emotionally ready to get back on the field and play some football
Where is Antrel Rolle? is he not supposed to be this type of guy? show me something man..
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
I think they need to win a game.
there’s been emotion every single week. EVERY week. It just so happens that its “not there” when they lose, and no one cares about it when they win.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
obviously there is emotion after a win....
but what about when something bad happens? the D does not rebound when thigns are not going their way, and that has been our problem for the past 3-4 years. we are a good team with talent all over the place. we have the playmakers on defense to be very good, but when i watch the games week in and week out i see a defense that is easily deflates, tuck included. The games we have won this year were because eli and his receivers made plays.
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
they seemed to rebound against Arizona and Seattle
the offense was the problem against Seattle, for all the Whitehurst jocking the defense was beating the hell out of him for most of the time he was in there, they just got tired after a while.Same thing with Klob, after a while they started to adjust and make plays and get off the field.
They’re giving up yards, but that’s more so cuz they’re on the field too much and that accumulates after a while.
The defense actually seems to always step it up, but there’s a reason why you have an offense, a defense and special teams. They haven’t put together a good effort for a whole game from all 3 squads.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
"They’re giving up yards, but that’s more so cuz they’re on the field too much and that accumulates after a while"
Exactly and when the defense forces turnovers and gets sacks, the offense hasnt responded with points.
Also when our offense turns the ball over and puts our defenses back against the wall and they get scored on….its not the defenses fault.
All 3 teams have to play together and play off of eachother.
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I agree with that to a point
but they defense began the game sunday with letting Seattle go right down the field on them and get 7, can’t use the excuse of being on the field too long
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
they defense* = the defense
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
they do that bend don't break stuff all the time
and its zero points if friggin Grant catches a ball right in his hands.
I’m also talking about the yardage they gave up and all the complaints. They didn’t gain all their yards on the first drive.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea but they also made plenty stops but the offense did nothing with it.
Seattle had a good first drive and ran that no huddle to perfection but after that i think we did pretty well, 7 points in each of the first 2 quarters wasnt bad.
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thats why agree to a point, the D plays better as the game goes on
And bailed out the offense. But to be like that… does it take getting killed on the first drive? And the no-huddle has killed them, just like in the Ram game, but luckily the Ram redzone offense stinks. And bend, don’t break…. got broke on that drive.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
you cannot argue against this point.
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by KingGorilla72 on Oct 14, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
No but you can justify it in a sense
The bend dont break defense is meant to give up yards in attempt to lure you into a false sense of security and therefore make a play.
Its just that Grant and some others didnt make the play.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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what was the stat?
Seattle hadn’t scored a first half TD all season?
you make all good points
and thats always been a problem with the tom coughlin era giants. we have only fired on all cylinders for one time period since he has been here. That time period was from 2007 in Buffalo until 2008 in our second matchup with philly (with the exception of that embarrasing monday night beatdown against cleveland). the team was absolutely instoppable in that time frame.
if we put it all together we could beat anybody
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Was Strahan really that great of a leader for his entire career?
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No.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
last few years
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
not early on
but for the 2nd half he sure as hell was
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think once Armstead was gone
in the early 2000’s, Strah took the leadership role
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yes...on the field
In the locker room? Not so much.
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MAKE IT WORK!!!
wait who are we talking about
not as the locker room leader, Armstead or Strahan?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
they were both locker room and on field leaders
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
but they both had moments where their leadership failed in key spots. 97 playoff game they both lost their cool when a few “disagreements” broke out among the defense
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. Strahan was on two of those meltdowns -
‘97 and ’02 playoff vs SF and he acted like the iggles melt down last year never would have happened with him. Do they erase these guys’ memories when they join a network?
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you are aloud to say and do as you please lol
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS... yeah that pissed me off when he said that last year
that image of him pointing at the scoreboard, rubbing it in TO’s face is a lasting memory of the team melting down. Don’t act like it never happened to you Strah
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
With the wrist bands
I don’t think the problem is overcomplication (every good NFL defense is complicated, they HAVE to be, to beat over protected offenses). I think the problem is more that there have been a lot of moving parts. They’ve lost veteran leadership (not to mention a lot of talent) at every level of the defense.
While the next men up have performed well (considering how young the defense is on whole), there’s just a LOT of moving parts at the moment.
possibly it could've been something the players are asking for
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If they asked for it, why wouldn't they just get them?
Is there some danger in the wristbands I am not aware of?
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by KingGorilla72 on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe they are just getting them
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe if a player loses one
they fear it may fall into the wrong hands, lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The should lose one on purpose, and let teams THINK they discovered our secrets....
But, see, it’ll be a fake wristband, so we will have them right where we want them.
Or is that too cartoonish?
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by KingGorilla72 on Oct 14, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
not cartoonish at all
a decoy may be needed
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That could work but unless they know the terminology it will look like chinese to them too.
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hopefully that was the plan in the Seattle game
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
PFs secret is out, DAMN YOU LUTHER
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know why Fuel is getting killed...
it is a player’s job ti come in and do the job they are paid to do. Besides, it is not like we have not seen some success. This defense in its present state still manages to get turnovers when we need them. Heck if wristbands will help make them do it.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 14, 2011 11:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't have a problem with wristbands
But Is that doesn’t work do we go to blimps with jumbo trons?
Best coaches see their ideas as a starting point and mold them to the players. Seems to me we try to do a lot of player molding around here and that will always worry me.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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kinda odd right
before the Seattle Loss Giants fans really didn’t seem too concerned.
sure we could have stopped the run better but people we’re more interested in disucssing how we were gonna steam roll Seattle, Buffalo, and MIami and be 6-1 before NE….not really discussing our D.
of course, a loss to Seattle (where our D really didn’t play bad) changes things doesnt’ it?
Ahhh…fandom. it’s great ain’t it?
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We win that game without the pick 6
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
i know
as critical as i am of Perry Fewell, this past game was actually one of his better games this season, and for everyone that has been clamoring for him to press his corners….hi….this past game he pressed more w/ Cweb than he has probably combined the past year+
sure he’s still in love w/ this notion to just rush 4 and drop everyone back….but the D did come up w/ 6 sacks (although he still could have blitzed more IMO).
so yeah, you eliminate that pick 6….the giants could very well win.
who’s supposed to win after giving up 5 Turnovers anyways?
there is a time to be critical, but than there is a time to just relax and properly evaluate.
Fewell ain’t perfect, but why eveyone is jumping up and down now, after a Loss is kinda silly if you ask me.
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I totally agree 708
and as for this “sure he’s still in love w/ this notion to just rush 4 and drop everyone back”……. i think its well warranted to assume he can get pressure more times than not with only four considering who those 4 are.
When you have 4 all world ends, and another one who is beasting accompanied by two immovable objects in Canty and Anvil, is it wrong to assume that you dont need to blitz all the time??
Some teams get it done with way less talent up front so i think thats what he’s thinking at times and i would agree as well with that thought process. This is not an average line.
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damn, where were you on monday when I argued the same thing and got massacred? lol
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was prolly too preoccupied
w/ throwing “sindey who” around to notice…my bad.
look i’m not trying to defend Fewell suddenly….
but i just wish collectively (not you included of couse b/c you’re as even keel as they come), we’d recognize what goes on here, w/out getting too caught up in the highs and lows of W’s and L’s.
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An offense
that came into the game averaging 67 rushing yards, 186 passing yards and 254 total yards shreds us for 145 rushing yards, 279 passing yards and 424 total yards and that’s one of his better games?
The Seattle game was the most passing yards and total yards we gave up this season and that’s one of the better games?
What’s it going to be like when we play GB and NE?
well Philly was his best game
let’s be real.
but they been giving up a boat load or yards, points, and first downs to all comers this season….and the comp hasn’t really been quality either.
but from a scheme standpoint….He practically pressed Cweb all game.
People keep saying “press press press”….he finally did that. At least w/ Webster.
hopefully this continues he’ll realize that he can drop one of those safeties (grant) back into the box and help out vs. the run….
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at the same time....
has our defense had to put up w/ this many turnovers from the O this year?
of course the last one was pointless b/c they scored w/ it.
but thats’ also a factor.
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the last 2
the pick and also the last INT, game was over already. But then throw in the Safety… D had to come back on the field after that
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree.
Our defense is the primary reason why we have been in the heat of many of the games that we played and now Fuel is the problem? Smh.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is not THE problem
but he also does not seem to be doing about solving THE problem.
Now, I admit that THE problem is a few things. Some he can fix and others he cannot.
The one thing I just don’t like though is his reluctance to come out of a bad defensive game plan.
Sticking with the same thing too long and getting beat.
Conversely, he also does play to conservative once they get up. Often times changing the plan from the one that got you there.
Think Philly 1 and 2 and Dallas 2 and Houston last year.
One the ropes and started playing prevent.
We all know the only a prevent is good for…..
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Eli has been pretty good this year
and w/out Eli the Giants don’t stand a chance vs. Arz.
Fewell ain’t “off limits” by any means.
but if we’re going to dissect the Seattle game….how the heck can we not acknowledge the fact that Turnovers killed us.
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how the heck can we not acknowledge the fact that Turnovers killed us.
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cuz that’s not in the narrative for this week
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to disagree
To say the D really didn’t play badly is a bit short-sighted. Sure, they got some sacks and turnovers, but when the chips were down, they crumbled. When your offense hands you a lead, late in the 4th quarter, against one of the worst offensive teams in the league, using their back-up QB, you need to make sure that you give the ball right back to the offense. Instead, they let Seattle march right down the field (rather easily, too) and then botched the go-ahead TD badly.
I’m not killing PF. I don’t think any of us really understands how difficult and complicated it is to come up with a defensive scheme that you think can be successful. It takes a long time to put a scheme in place. To expect that you can just take one week and change the whole thing is a bit absurd.
well, i'm not giving PF a pass by any means
in fact, i consider myself one of his biggest critics actually….and I have been for a while now
I personally agree w/ you about the way he lets teams march down the field vs. his “bend don’t break” mentality…but the fact is, that’s been going on since day 1 really…
so we’re not going to see HUGE changes week to week, but as i pointed out above…he is making some changes….namely w/ Webster.
but ultimately, the Giants still shoulda won that game, and probably would have if the O doesn’t turn it over. and as we all know….had they won, a lot of BBVers woudl be turning a blind eye to the deficiencies on D.
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Off topic and I'm sorry if this was brought up in another post but
Denver is looking to trade Brandon Lloyd, and is looking for a 3-5th round pick.
Here is my question, would you trade Manningham for Lloyd?
And before some of you start going off on" the giants never make mid season trades, it’s not how we do things…." I am just bringing this up as something to discuss.
If the giants could work out an extension with Lloyd before hand I think I would make that trade.
Your thought?
I am NOT a Lloyd fan
he’s had one good year out of 8, not including this season(which he’s not lighting the world on fire either). and hasn’t come close to those numbers any year before. i’d take The Man everyday over Lloyd, twice on sunday.
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same
Lloyd was projected to be the 49ers up-and-coming WR a few years ago. He failed. He had a stint in WAS which failed but I won’t hold him liable in Hogs Haven. In denver, I wish he continued his success from last year. I think our receivers are just fine. and id take ham over lloyd anyday
I don't want Lloyd either
I was just bored and wanted to stir the nest, that’s why I posted it. It seemed to have worked. Hey Fester, find me a good gif of a trouble maker.
Quinn must go !!
Hell no.
And I don’t care if the Giants made 30 in season trades every year.
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol!!
I knew this was coming.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nothing to do with in season trades
but hell no… we do not need to change this part of the team… wide receivers are clicking right now and manningham is gonna start seeing success with victor cruz getting all the attention
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
For just the picks
Hell Yeah…… I like HAM too much to give him up but LLoyd is a beast
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The players do a great job of complimenting each other
Now they need to learn how to
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by BleedBigBlue on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
well....Kiwi working out at DE today....
should make some folks happy
but why do i suddenly have a craving for riddlin?
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Next will be the lbzers complaints
No depth, no speed, they miss Kiwi – lol
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Sucks, but rest up
You gotta think he should be able to suit up and practice in 13 days…no?
Anybody have a chicken to sacrifice?
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by Larry Soprano on Oct 14, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive upgraded to a whole cow.
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Happy
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Bout f*cking time!!!!!!
Yes worried … im going with percocet.
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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
so who slides in at strong?
Herz? don’t think so.
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Why not?
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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to green
doesn’t even sniff the field outside of specials. and hasn’t even made noise there yet. no way TC goes that route.
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to Green? like Jaquian was?You mean the guy that played all three spots well in camp and looked very good in preseason with
a pick and a sack??
Is he any greener than any other rookie?? and how do you make noise anywhere until you are actually there?
The fact that Kiwi is practicing on the line shows the confidence that they have in Herz. I say why not?
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i agree
but if he hasn’t moved his way up the depth chart a third into the season, then there’s something he’s not doing that’s catching the coaches eyes. it’s not as if he’s behind LT, Banks, Carson, and Pepper. i don’t remember him in there for any snaps, yet. that tells me that TC isn’t confident in his skills, yet.
and as far as Jacquain, he showed them something, because he was getting reps from week one on. i’m confident that Herz will be something for the Giants, i just don’t know if that role will be defined this season, or at least this early.
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cuz you missed your dose for today
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by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Kiwi will do just fine..
Lots of comments on leaders..Back in the hey-day we had two..Harry Carson vocally..and LT by example..We don’t have that now..There is no chemistry on this defense..
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holy LOFL!!!!!!!!!!!!
“We’re trying to learn how to play together. That’s the biggest problem that I think we have right now,
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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
29 games
Pre and regular season games with pretty much the same personnel, and we are still learning to play together. This is not encouraging.
Quinn must go !!
by njgiant on Oct 14, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
When you lose your Mike backer hrs before the season starts
its really not the same personnell……especially when the replacement is a rookie.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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you mean the guy who calls the audibles?
anyone can replace him
@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.
LOL
Yea and lines up the defense and be able to…….. wait heres the kicker……….call his own plays so that the no huddle doesnt affect us.
Eaaaaaaaasy fix AJ, we are on the same page.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
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Running downs?
JPP = = Anvil = Canty = = Kiwi
Boley = Jones = Williams
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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
And passing downs!
Quinn must go !!
by njgiant on Oct 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
gotta have Osi in on passing downs
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones out and Kiwi with hand in ground to outside of JPP or Osi
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
yes
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Tolly...Kiwi....Jpp.....Osi
Like its been the last few weeks
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
who's strong side?
boley and williams are both pretty light in the ass.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Yeah I figured Boley would be more adept in playing the Sam
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Boley plays on the strong side more often than you think
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
So Francesa just asked a caller who would he rather have
Dez or Nicks, the caller rightly said Nicks. Mike laughed, said “you’re out of your mind” and hung up.
Huh?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Maybe hes done something thus far that ive missed..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
I heard the end of that call
but did not hear who he was taking Dez over.
Not suprised Mike said that, Dez by far has shown he is healthier and stays on the field moe then Nicks… oh wait.
But he is the best cowboy WR ever to wear #88… oh wait.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
When he is healthy
Dez might be better but like Britt another gang banger who cant stay out of trouble. So I dont want him.
None of them are gang bangers and lets keep it to talent
all 3 are awesome.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yea...Huh??.... hes a fool
Both of them are supreme talents.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
the way he dismissed the caller was laughable
like it’s not even a discussion. let Dez sniff Nicks numbers before you crown him the next whoever.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Yeah for real
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I can't tell you how happy I am that I can't tune into that..
‘Stay puffed marshmallow man’…How fat is he now?..800 pounds?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Dez doesn't play for the Giants, therefore he should be better.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutley love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but its actually pretty normal in an NFL game and locker room.
But i love AB’s passion man, i bet that changes things.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
FREE BRADSHAW
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 14, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor tackling
I have notice a lot missed tackles in almost every game this year, which accounts for the so many yards allowed.
Improve the tackling and reduce the turnovers and we will be in the play-off.
lol Strahan
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 15, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
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