Justin Tuck, Antonio Pierce Trade Barbs
by Ed Valentine on Oct 10, 2011 6:53 PM EDT
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PrintIn case you missed the fireworks, former New York Giants linebacker and now ESPN analyst Antonio Pierce today ripped Justin Tuck and Brandon Jacobs for not playing in Sunday's loss to the Seattle Seahawks. Tuck fired back at his former teammate, saying "he should check his facts."
Here is what Pierce said:
"To me, if you don’t’ have an injury that needs surgery or is that severe, you need to be out there," Pierce said. "And I don’t really know and I don’t want to question guys, but if you’re one of the leaders on the team – which Brandon Jacobs and Justin Tuck are – and you say, ‘You know what? The Seattle Seahawks, maybe we don’t need to play this game’ and you miss out, that’s what’s going to bite you in the tail."
Here was Tuck's response:
"In a way he's completely right. In another way he's completely wrong," Tuck said in his paid, weekly appearance this afternoon on WFAN. "I'm the captain. I need to be on the football field. (But) I can't be on it to help this football team right now.
"Maybe he should check his facts about what my injury is."
Who are you siding with here? Pierce is paid to offer his opinion, but a guy who had his career ended by a neck injury -- and one who played with Tuck and Jacobs long enough to understand what kind of players, and people, they are -- really is out of line unless he has all of the medical information at his disposal.
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Look at the guys that slammed Cutler
Which one of those guys has stepped up and said, “I was an ignorant d-bag for calling him out”
Cheap shot AP
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
AP is out of line
He of all people should know that neck injuries need to be handled cautiously.
the issue
Doesnt it seem that this team has more key injuries than any other every year? Could be just cuz its my team but that is frustrating. I sure dont want to rush people back and make it worse though.
by weejer on Oct 10, 2011 7:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
All teams have injuries
But we’ve been snakebit since 2008
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
i dont have superbowl
Expectations and I believe this is a rebuilding team with a quarterback in place that can win games.
by omfGIANTS on Oct 10, 2011 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
lmao. Rebuilding. Sure thing, buddy.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Transition is a fancy word for rebuilding the game starts and ends in the trenches and we are different on both side of the ball we are a good team but we still have work to do young team with potential because we have a veteran QB
by omfGIANTS on Oct 10, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
I am officially on the Buffalo Bills' bandwagon.
Not rebuilding
But, it is a team that is changing. Regardless of the final record, there are a great number of young, improving players to be really excited about on this roster.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 10, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants don't rebuild. They replace parts and chug on.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
...Obviously when you have a franchise QB
that’s really effing obvious…
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
What?
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
not so much revuilding, but in "transition" is fair I think
for a team whose philosophy is built around controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, with offense built off the run first, and defense on stopping the run and penetration for the pass rush. . . the OL is a work in progress.
That means half the winning formula is not running on all cylinders.
True, injuries are a factor, but they are a factor in every year, and predictably so. Injuries don’t come out even across the league in a given year, and while the defense has been hindered by them, it hasn’t totally busted, in spite of its problems against the run and yesterday for the first half and the broken second half TD coverage.
The defense is on the field a lot. The Giants have not been able to take control of time of possession, so that exposes the defense more. If the OL can be consistently above average, which it is not right now, then the whole situation changes dramatically.
The plan this year was to move Diehl to LG where it was expected he could be a net positive, above average, extending his career and making up for a bad last year. But he’s been pretty consistently poor this year.
The plan also relied on McKenzie to be at least above average this year, after a stellar year last year. But so far, he has been average at best, a bit slow. His skills are degrading faster than expected or maybe he’s a bit injured, who knows. Whatever, he has not lived up to plan.
Snee also is less consistent and is not getting the reliable push we have come to expect from him.
Baas has been good overall, an upgrade over last year, but still is learning the system and how to make calls that work with the defensive schemes he sees and the talent around him. And now he’s been hurt.
Beatty has been good for a first time starter overall, but had a bad game yesterday. Got to expect some inconsistency from a first year starter, even if he is a third year player.
Ballard has been hit and miss with his blocks and better than expected running routes. Pascoe is competent generally but inconsistent. His primary value at this point is he knows the system and is better than any obvious immediate replacement.
Beckum has seen limited action due to injury and has actually done better in blocking than his reputation would lead anyone to expect. It’s been at his expected area of strength, route running and pass catching, where he has been of no impact whatsoever.
Blocking from the backfield Hynoski has done well for a rookie and shows steady improvement.
The RB’s in the blocking game are okay, though they miss things from time to time.
What all of that equals is an underwhelming level of control of the offensive line of scrimmage, and while I think the plan to start the season was not unreasonable in its expectations, it has not lived up to its expectations on the field.
And everything keys off that, from the defense seeing too much time on the field to be exploited to bad 3rd down conversion rates to an inability to run the ball and deploy good play action, where Eli typically shines (though I agree his PA fakes were really lame yesterday).
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
good God that's long.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Used to hear that a lot when I was single
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
these days all I hear is, "roll over, you're snoring again"
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
lmao. How the mighty will fall.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
TMI. lol
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Staying classy
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
fair point
seemed like fun after the eagles game. . .
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
done
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
+1 - AJ, you totally nailed it
I was thinking about this on the way to work and while i can complained bitterly about Eli this offseason, i also thought about something Doug Flutie said a few years ago about how qb’s worry about stats. Think about these scenarios for a moment and also think how poor o-line play affects them:
1 Eli throws too many interceptions – To cut down he must:
a. throw the ball away – degrades his percentage and his overall rating
b. take sacks – higher overall rating, but takes more of a beating and risks injury. also has a cumulative affect on health overall
The reality is Eli has clearly taken the “b” route, but just ask Matthew Stafford how this has worked for him in the past. Eli’s stats look much better (yesterday excluded), but it comes at a cost.
The truth of the matter is that this is an average team with some above-average parts. What does this team look like if Nicks gets hurt? Exactly. Let’s enjoy the ride while it lasts and hope agaist hope that we can get some of the tougher games.
yeah, team has issues
that bring with them inconsistencies
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Eli tried throwing the ball away last year
but that’s why so many were intercepted.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I agree
Think about the training camp Next year and the fact that there will be great competition at every single position. With the guys who are stepping up for us now looking to continue improving and making plays(Cruz, Williams, Ballard, JPP), the guys coming back from injury looking to show they’re healthy and get back on the field( Thomas, Goff, Austin, C. Jones, Barden) all the young guys we have that aren’t getting the opportunity to get on the field and show what they can do like(D. Scott, JJ12, Herzlich, Prince), and Guys under-performing looking to bounce back( O-line in general, Secondary), its safe to say the Giants will be much better in every phases of the game next year.
For this season though we just need them to patch it up and compete for 60 minutes every. We could very well still make the playoffs and once that happens, as we all know, anything is possible.
by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Oct 10, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
stop over rating our players please
None of the guys you named are superstars. If you think Jernigan and herzlick will turn into difference makers next year you are nuts. This team has won 1 game decisively so far this year. It was against the 1-4 Eagles. Not a good sign. This week is huge.
by Madhops on Oct 10, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
JPP is a super star.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 10, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
cool beans
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
no they’re transitioning to the top 10 in the draft. They havent begun to rebuild yet
its all or nothing
by clevacougar19 on Oct 10, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
were you saying this last week?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
AP has learned his new business. . .
making plays = saying things that get attention.
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
shutup
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
I am officially on the Buffalo Bills' bandwagon.
nonstory since things have been smoothed over between them. Though it is concerning that Strahan first called out Tuck, now AP follows suit.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 10, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
Smoothed over?
That’s not the last thing I read. I read that AP is not backing off, even after talking to Tuck.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 10, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I heard they talked about it and smoothed things over.
Or maybe I just interpreted them talking as smoothing things over….my bad.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 10, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
heard the same
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
What is it
with former Giants bashing the team? Tiki, Stray, AP a couple times. They’ve all drunk the Kool Aid I see.
simple they see how great this team should be with all of this talent but it has always been mediocre and probably will be for quite some time. I like how we like to get the under the radar signings but we never seem to get the quality production that you look at on paper. This team has no personality this year and it’s going to kill them after the bye. I do disagree with Tiki but Strahan and Pierce are definately onto something.
its all or nothing
by clevacougar19 on Oct 10, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it sells
knocking the Giants and praising the Jets will get you a lot of ‘kudos’.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 10, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
true dat
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Tuck....
woulda have really impressed me ALOT by not saying anything at all.
just pull a shrug and an “ok”…maybe even a “pffft”….but other than that…it doesn’t even warrant a response.
TeamJPP
Yea, I could care less.
We need him on the field, when he’s ready and healthy.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what really grinds my gears?
JPP goes for 2 1/2 sacks yesterday and is basically being held all over the field, but on Monday, what do we get?
a story about a guy who’s retired who took a jab at two players who didn’t even play in the damn game.
TeamJPP
That will happen.
Any time someone in the media, such as Pierce has something to say about specific players, it’s going to be a story, even if we don’t want it to be. Though I think it’s really nothing at all.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah JPP is getting known
opposing coaches clearly know. But league wide among the talking heads and the fans, not yet.
Sure the talking heads get a note card that says, “pay attention to this guy, he’s an up and comer,” but they really don’t know yet.
They will.
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
it's beyond nothing....
but these media guys try their best to make it something.
and it takes away from other things…i.e. JPP, Cweb owning Rice, the return of Barden, etc.
lol…snuck that barden part in there….That’s my Core Four Three; JPP, Cweb, RamsES
TeamJPP
The Giants better be 5-2 at the BYE week
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"No question. I play the run very, very well. Forget what you heard." -- Osi Umenyiora
that would be impossible since they only have one more game before the bye.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
they need to wrok harder then
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
lol, damn them.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
that extra game will make us 2-6 in the division.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no wonder you want Coughlin fired, you ask the impossible!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 10, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
AP is an idiot
always was. I just didn’t know he was stupid enough to say something like this.
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
tried to hide the gun, not the smartest dude
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
But this is a stupid thing to say!
even for a semi-retarded guy like AP
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
by bleedblue12 on Oct 10, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with AP
I’m played golf today with a despite the fact i had a paper cut on wednesday. sometimes you just have to tough it out. :)
Until you spill tobasco or lemon juice on that
You can not be declared tough
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Two paper cuts on my knuckles on the same day...
Next day, went to lift weights.
Am I tough??
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
That depends how much
you bitched about it…
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Let us never forget the pass interference in the endzone during the Super Bowl!!
If it wasn’t for AP we would have blown out the Patriots by a score of 17-7.
Thanks for nothing…jerk.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
yeah
F off loser
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAH!! Jerk-ass AP.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 34 SEA 17
Strahan blasted him for not being on the field for the Eagles game
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
The same Strahan
Who was on the sidelines sucking wind as the 49ers rolled down the field time after time and finally ended our playoff run when Trey Junkin blew the snap? Strahan was as guilty as anyone for wussing out as the million dollar man on that one….
I'm reminded of the old stock market quote...
The difference between a “correction” and a “crash” is that in a correction other people’s stocks go down, and in a crash YOUR stocks go down. I think AP is applying the same type of thinking regarding injuries. HIS injury was career ending, but not being a doctor, nor knowing Tuck’s medical condition, nor having the ability to make any objective consideration of it, he shot off his mouth, which is o.k., as it’s what they pay him to do. I don’t want people sitting out with a hangnail, but Tuck is a guy who played injured most of a full season after Flossy Adams bushwacked him so I’m not gonna trash him if he says he’s hurt and couldn’t help the team yesterday.
Wow...I have just realized how annoying Detroit fans are
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
aw come on, leave um alone. They've wollowed in misery for a long time.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Ford field is rocking right now. The line can't hear Cutler's audibles.
Back to back false starts.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Oct 10, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, now, lay off Detroit
Them people is living in ‘Mad Max’ times
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Prime Real Estate in Downtown Detroit
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, there's a dude on the second floor! wtf?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
They're also Red Wings fans
If the Giants aren’t in the superbowl, I’m hoping Detroit Buffalo just so the BIlls can wreck them
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
It gets old
Retired players and “Back when I played the game we duct taped our arms back on to our shoulders so we could play” BS
Everyone knows the Giants medical staff knows best
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
well other then cruz turning out to be lethal
i still expected him to be better then what he is doing.
There have definitely been communication problems with him and Eli
Right now given the run blocking I’d go 3 WR a ton
I’d even design the runs out of that
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
IT's not just him
I blame the Oline for everything wrong with the offense
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
it's a long season
last year MM started kinda slowish too….but at the end of the year he had 900+ yards receiving
Granted, he may have benefited from others being “nicked” up…so to speak, but when you look at the last 3 games:
In week 15 he went for 113 yards
week 16 132 yards
week 17 101
so…again…it’s a long season.
TeamJPP
I'm not a math major
but w/out those 3 games there at the end his stats looks rather pedestrian…right around 600 yards / 13 games.
TeamJPP
that's why they play 16 games instead of 13
take out any players 3 best games and their stats would look pedestrian
Time to update this: 2009 Did Not Happen. Neither did 2010. Or 2011. Sports suck.
The giants have to play with fire.
Ex: I’m watching bears vs lions and they’re playing with FIRE! Cmon man, these guys are getting payed millions to play a sport and us fans love watching the game. Show us fans that you wanna play. We have too much talent to be mediocre. Coughlin is good but he doesn’t pump the team up like pete Carroll or I hate to say it Rex Ryan lol but still you get the point. Gilbride is old school whisk doesn’t work these days, Quinn is terrible but the FO is loyal and fewell isn’t playing to the teams strengths. Even the crowd at giants stadium apparently isn’t loud… Wtf!! Representing the greatest city in the world and our fans can’t make noise. I wish I lived I’m NYC or new jersey. I live in Montreal Canada and I’m a big giants fans. I started liking them because they were bad ass ballers. Let’s get back to that!
by MIKES92 on Oct 10, 2011 9:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
there is a penalty ever play
that’s not fire…that’s stupid
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
At least they aren't playing like there dogs just died like the giants yesterday.. They're pumped up.
I like that.
by MIKES92 on Oct 10, 2011 9:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
its a long season
this is a big MNF match up… between two good teams… that are division rivals. Seriously doubt either team has this ‘fire’ for a full 16 game schedule
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
They should. All I'm saying is the giants should play more line that instead of fkn coming out flat. Is that hard to understand?
by MIKES92 on Oct 10, 2011 10:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nope, me no understand
fire = penalty filled football game… by that logic the Giants have fire every week
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
how is that not a personal foul late hit on vanden bosch?
two refs standing right there, calling everything ticky tack, and no flag on that hit?
smh
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
gameplan: throw to Megatron in double coverage over the top
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Smart, it works
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yes indeed
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
and that's different tah throw to Cruz double covered?
oh yeah it gets underthrown instead of over the top.
that bitch deserved that
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
it's only riskier with Cruz for two reasons
One, he has not established Johnson’s consistency, and two, Megatron is a lot taller and can body up and go high for the jump ball.
That said, Cruz has amazing, unteachable hands and hips to escape a tackle and very good vertical leap to get the jump ball, in spite of being just about 6 foot or so.
Cruz may end up being that kind of consistent threat. It’s just a little painful watching his growing pains and mistakes in his first prime time season. Though he shows signs of progress each week.
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Stafford with his 15th separated shoulder > Eli
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
hard to say who has worse hair, though
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
both need haircuts
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
eli is the only guy who puts on a suit post game for the presser. . .
and he looks like he slept in it
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
he's no George Clooney
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Fairley playing
how far along is Prince?
earliest looks like week 8
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Frustrating that it's taking so long
when an almost 300lb DE heals quicker off a foot injury than a ~200lb CB is still out.
I realize injuries are unique to each person, but man I’d like to see some players getting healthy instead of not playing.
by TempusSpatium on Oct 10, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
excuse my grammar
I changed what I was writing and forgot to fix things up
by TempusSpatium on Oct 10, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, He saved the day at the SB
When he shook off the block and made the one on one tackle on the screen play. Prettiest tackle I have ever seen.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats wasn't the SB
It was in Green Bay when he took on three OL and saved our ass on that screen against the blitz…. That play though might have saved our SB berth….
We miss his leadership
as much as we miss his play. When we lost Strahan and Pierce, we lost the leaders of this team.
There are NONE on the current roster. Rolle is not a leader, he is a loudmouth.
leadership?
new topic, never heard this before
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
your mastery of the sarcasm font is a joy to watch
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I stand corrected
but it was a thing to behold
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 10, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
here's the replay
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Thanks AJ
Brought a smile to my face!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Oct 11, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Hester auditioning to be Minitron?
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
the geeky cartoon one
or the kickass movie version?
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
kickass movie version when returning punts or kickoffs
geeky cartoon version each and every other moment in his life
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
sounds about right
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
bumblebee runs backwards...geeky
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I'm still sick about the Hawks game, but RV has a pretty good write up
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
reading through makes me remember the KP21 hit on Miller...
What was he thinking?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
he's having a good season overall, but. . .
He’s doing more of those leaping jar the ball loose tackles than he is wrapping people up.
I’d rather see the whole team do some better wrap drive and drop fundamental tackling.
@SpittyP Spencer Paysinger Getting cursed @, bottles thrown at our buses, and middle fingers by kids, teens, adults, elders. Philly fans are the best! #NYG Stand UP!
@ MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich Guy in a Deuce Staley jersey just launched a water bottle 40 yards and hit the bus dead on. Good throw. Poor judgment #Y_PO_LargeAngryMen
@JustinTuckNYG91 Justin Tuck I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it.
Yeah
There was definitely no whistle on the go-ahead touchdown pass for the Seahawks after Osi Umenyiora jumped offsides, and I don’t even think any of the Giants defenders actually stopped, even though they say they did. I do agree with what Justin Tuck seemed to be screaming from the sidelines, though. Why no whistle? Umenyiora seemed to have an unabated path to the quarterback. Yes, he was blocked, but only because the running back came over to pick him up after the ball was snapped, and that movement can’t be assumed by the officials. I think Seattle QB Charlie Whitehurst’s quick snap to get the free play might have saved them there, but an argument can definitely be made that a whistle should have been blown.
I was screaming this the whole time. That was a clear unabated to the quarterback as possible. Even before the TD I was wondering why the whistle wasn’t blown.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
AP is waaaaay in line with his comments
Tuck could have played. Every week it is something different with him. First his neck then his groin. They change their story every so often when it comes to Tucks injury that you can’t tell what the facts are.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Really?
For an ex-player to question someone is one thing. For anyone on any of these blogs to question anyone not playing is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
You are entitled to your opinion B2000.
For anyone on any of these blogs to question anyone not playing is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
Tuck could have played. Every week it is something different with him. First his neck then his groin.
And I am entitled to mine.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Opinions are one thing
To make an emphatic statement about which you have no first hand knowledge and no expertise in either relevant area (NFL, Medical) is just foolish.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
We all do that on this blog every day so I guess we are all foolish.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 11, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No it does not.
AP has first hand NFL experience and his wisdom played a role in leading us to a SB championship. If he says something, then I am willing to give he some lead-way. Besides, Tuck agreed with him.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
tuck agreed to an extent
These arent minor injuries u can play thru & be a force. We’d be in more trouble if JT got hurt worse b/c he forced himself back into the lineup too quickly. And AP has no idea as to the extent of his injury so he’s way off base on this one. Tuck has been hurting for a while so id tend to accept his words more than anyone else’s. He might be onto something with BJ but I havent heard much about his situation.
Nobody wins the Superblow in October.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
oh yea, sure he's way in line
AP is a blithering idiot who should’ve done Plaxico’s time.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Oct 10, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Really
I know you like to be a contrarian, but this is ridic.
It’s very possible to injure more than one part of your body. It’s also possible for both to be hurt AT THE SAME TIME.
Tuck is the most important player on the defense. If he gets hurt worst, worst things will happen.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
No it does not.
Osi is king. All other DEs must bow down.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
AP is a low class ignoramus....
and a mediocre LB to boot…
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