'Kudos & Wet Willies,' Disappointing Monday Edition

Yea, Seattle is a bad team, and we lost to them…but this is the New York Giants. We always play up to the level of elite competition, and down to the level of inferior competition. It’s what we do.

What excites me thus far about this team is there ability to have a chance to win it at the end of every game. Defensive stats, offensive stats, special teams…throw them out the window. If this team continues to pick each other up to keep games close (offense charging right back to score on their first drive, defense creating turnovers almost immediately after the offense turned it over) and we have a chance to win it with two minutes left every week…we’ll win a lot more than we’ll lose.

I agree J.Williams is gonna be special ,get some weight on him & more game time he & Jpp have been the 2 guys I’ve come to look for when we need a stop ! I’m enjoying Osi..Eli was very good….he did all he can to win ! My Homeboy Cruz..will get better & he will learn from his errors..my only hope is Eli doesn’t force to many throws to him…

there were at least 3 INTs that have to be made. At least 2 by Grant and one by Boley. I thought Fewell was supposed to get the secondary to be a bunch of ball hawks…but no secondary that has ball hawks will let those INTs stay on the field.

But I think Hynocerous has been horrible
I know the kids a rookie but he needs to make some blocks, He seems lost with the rest of the Oline

as I was out of town. So I get to watch the debacle late tonight and be tired tomorrow. YAY.

I think it might be under .500?

Seems to have turned the corner since week 2, He hasn’t been perfect but seems to have his head on straight again, Maybe he can show Grant how to catch a ball

But honestly, this team is one of the most exciting Giants’ teams in a while. I don’t ever feel that we are completely out of the game with this bunch. Sure their defense, running, and o-line needs help but I can only hope they get better as the season progresses. Come on now, this is the team that was projected to be way worse at this point.

Offense: Running game. I dunno what it is, but it seems like they’re telegraphing the run plays. The right side of the line gets no push at all too. Also while I know its tough to run twice in a row when it keeps getting stuffed, but maybe they need to just run a little more to try and get into a rhythm?

Defense: Why the hell is Canty off the field so much?

I guess the defense is bend and don’t break between the 20s, which isn’t terrible…but there’s only so many RZ possessions you can be successful in. Maybe if the safeties were playing a little closer they’d be able to stop those slot WRs being wide open over the middle?

They miss Tuck. I like Tollefson, but I’m tired of seeing him out there so much. I don’t understand that while we have a defense that’s designed to get a lot out of Osi, Tuck, JPP and Kiw….why the hell when one of them are injured do we still trot out the same stuff with Tollefson? He’s not nearly as good as those guys there’s a reason why too.

Still think this team will get on track. They’re 3-2 and really haven’t put together a great week yet.

And again, they turn the ball over, they lose no matter how much they outclass the opponent (and they are a much more talented team then Seattle).

there is no reason for tollefson to be on the field when we have kiwi—he is our best pass rusher with his hand in the dirt (or synthetic grass as it were)

But his play at olb is uninspiring—we can find someone else to play there—this move improves our pass rush, which improves our defense.

does anyone remember in what situation he was used at DE yesterday?

but is anyone else ready to draft a lineman in the first round next year?

The Giants turned the ball over 5 times and still had a chance to win the game at the end. limit the turnovers and all will be well. I love that in the last 2 min of the half we drive down the field and score then almost due the same at the end of the game. that money time and Eli has been very good at this year.

I know he boomed those kicks and I appreciate that. But I’m curious why he kicked the ball to Leon Washington almost every time. I only remember one he kicked out of bounds. Isn’t that why we signed him and cut Dodge?

yeah, the o-line got zero push, but we weren’t telegraphing run plays—all our completions were down field our on the outside of the field—we have no threat between the hash marks!!

did you see when jake ballard caught his passes? he was wide open every time—the linebackers were playing run and run only, and we still didn’t exploit themiddle of the field—i don’t know if this is on gilbride, or if it’s just the lack of personnel—I like ballard, but he’s no jason witten or tony gonzalez.

Whether he’s any good or not, this has to be his last year.

If he can’t claim a role this year, with the TE position wide open, then he never will, at least on this team. Especially with all the 3rd down troubles.

Time to move on. As a Giant, he’s a dead man walking, unless the coaching staff turns over next year and maybe some other group finds a role he can succeed in. I doubt that will happen.

I know, it’s hardly a big issue given all the other problems on the team, but I thought I’d throw it out there. I’ve never had a definitive take on Beckum so far, but now I’m there. He had one target yesterday and he was overthrown as Eli gave him a late checkdown look on a dump down after the OL failed him in protection again.

give Eli a kudos despite his turnovers but only give Cruz a kwillie. Giants arent in this game without Cruz or Eli, they both deserve kudos despite their mistakes. That interception isnt on Cruz or Eli, it was bad luck. Cruz slipped and did his best to recover and make a play.

Another ugly game and at the end of the day we could have won this game.

-Run Defense is downright scary, we can’t stop anybody
-Is it me,but why don’t we blitz QB’s like last year,
-our O-line is in chaos, we can’t run the ball, and don’t pass block very well
- looks like our schedule get’s tough from this point forward, we only have the Dolphins as a gimmie game. Buffalo and San Fran are going to be tough to beat. I am offically concerned about next week’s game.

he committed a critical turnover with a fourth-quarter fumble

Cruz is one of my favorites but with this I will have to agree. He basically undid the TD that he got after that magnificent catch.

could not make the play on the Manning pass that ended up being a 94-yard game-clinching interception return ngby Brandon Browner of Seattle.

I can’t believe that you are blaming him for this. He slipped. can’t fault him for a problem with the turf. I faulted Eli on this play and many of my fellow BBVers have something to say about that. Ok, Eli played well for the most part and I will not cast blame on him for this play even though I do. But this interception was not Cruz’s fault.

Eli played well but he throws a TON of “jump-balls” that people have been making plays on. Throwing into double coverage for people to make circus catches will eventually come back to bite him in the ass.

i think we’re getting outta Ross what we got outta TT….which ain’t bad, not great, but not bad….but also, what can we do at this point? nothing, so we gotta accept it.

Rolle is hurting us in the slot, so get Tryon or Prince in there ASAP and get Rolle to replace Grant’s snaps as much as possible.

Do that and I think it helps us out a lot.

it’’s one thing for QBs to key in on Ross all game, it’s another to have them being able to take their pick between Ross and Rolle….

went to “Nicky’s on the Bay” for some drinks . Turned out the Direct TV was off line . What I thought at the time was a disaster turned out to be much the blessing…

We aren’t going anywhere.

They were awful.

Eli had no time and there was no room whatsoever to run the ball. Without Baas they couldn’t even get Eli the ball cleanly. It was a miracle they were even in this game.
There is no way to look at this game in a positive light when they got pushed around like they did.

I’m as much of a homer as there is, but I can’t find anything to be enthusiastic about from yesterday’s contest.