Coughlin - Same old story

why didn’t KP tell AR what the deal was?

Why did AR willingly chose to come to NY. If TC’s has had a mutiny on his hands for this many years and AR’s main thing is Having Fun (not winning but having fun)….why did he come to NY???

Who did Bulluck talk to before he came to NY by the way? His name is Michael Strahan, the guy that you say unequivocally hates tom coughlin….

Seriously, if you don’t like TC come up with something more creative than “Rolle hates him”.

and another question…if it’s so bad, why is KP taking everything he said back???

he is just making some recommendations. He wants him to loosen up a bit, I wouldnt say that he hates TC or his coaching style. He just gave his opinon as to what TC could change for the best of the team. He isnt making a bold statement to the effect of that is why they didnt win against the eagles or GB the next week. AR likes to talk and that is all it is, just talk. No need to blow this out of proportion, I bet everything will be handled by the beginning of camp.

Says a lot of things, have you ever heard Stray or tiki or Rolle say they hate coughlin? I think you hate coughlin, which makes me happy cause you’re going to have to hate him for years to come… Have fun hating!

Antrel Rolle has been around, he has been to a super bowl, and he has seen different coaching styles.

Antrel Rolle has been around, but has never been part of a Super Bowl winning team, and has never played for a Super Bowl winning coach. How would he know what a successful coaching style truly is?

He complained about Coughlin IMMEDIATELY right off the bat. What does this tell me?

It should tell you he might be having a hard time adjusting to the higher level of expectations that come with playing in a high pressure situation like New York. Something he surely never came close to experiencing in Arizona.

The super bowl has not changed one god damn thing. Coughlin is still the EXACT same coach he was before 2007 and he has never changed. Players clearly do not enjoy playing for him.

The Super Bowl has changed one thing, it’s thrusted the Giants into the upper-echelon of franchises with 3 Super Bowls. We can only hope Coughlin is still the same coach, because he has proven, beyond any doubt, that he can lead a team to a Super Bowl title.

Perhaps Antrel needs to realize that Coughlins way might not be the most “fun”, but it has worked, and can work under the right cirumstances.

Call me crazy, but there’s something to be said about guys like Coughlin, and even Eli…who really never looked truly happy until they were on top of that podium, holding up the Lombardi.

and you know it

as I am looking on the internet….it seems everyone has their own interpretation of what Rolle is trying to say.

yesterday me and Jdaking were talking and he thought Rolle was talking about TC’s football philosophy being wrong…

I was talking to Ghostdini on ESPN and we both kinda agreed that Rolle was talking about TC’s managing style; showing up early to games, showing up early 5 minutes to practice, micromanaging too much, etc.

Now today, I go to UltimateNYG…and they are say “rolle is right”….but they say he’s right b/c TC is not holding his Assistant Coaches Accountable and Mara is not holding TC accountable.

So again, I ask….what the heck, exactly was Rolle talking about???

Football philosophy?
putting pads on during the week?
or
the fact that Tom Quinn still has a job?

it was a blanketed, general statement….and we don’t need that.

When Coughlin was feeling the heat after Week 3 (1-2 start), Strahan came out in defense of Coughlin, saying that retirement brought him a newer and better perspective on Coughlin’s coaching style. He said he should have been more appreciative of the kind of coach Coughlin was when he was still on the team. He does still believe that the 2007 “transformation” to more of a player’s coach helped him and the players connect more, and it sounds like Strahan gained a lot of respect for Coughlin after he did that, noting how hard it is for someone that old to change their ways like that.

Does Coughlin probably need to loosen up a little? I don’t know, because I’m not in the locker room to give an honest opinion. But you can’t throw Strahan’s name out there anymore as someone who “hates” Coughlin. He used to, and he admits that he never thought he’d last more than a year with Coughlin when he first came to the Giants in 2004. For someone who disliked him initially as much as Strahan did to now come out and sing his praises speaks volumes about the man. Coughlin knows what he’s doing and is a proven winner.

now I am not a Sage-Basher but could you imagine this being “the guy”?

    I’m going to say this one more time! The players need to Shut the #$@^ up! Period! The NY Giants are not only a football TEAM, they are also a Business! Every player that comes into the NFL wants to win a Superbowl! If not, then they have no business playing in the first place! Discipline…Tough discipline wins football games! Not good times and (supposed) player coaches! Case in point (and the NFL Landscape is littered with them) Jerry Glanville! As a head coach , he compiled a career LOSING record of 63 – and 73 ….would you like to compare that to 137 – 110 – 0 ..Including two trips to the AFC Championship as head coach of The Jax Jaguars, the first trip being only the second year of the Jaguars existence in 1996 and again in 1999, compiling a League high record of 14 – 2! He has restored pride in a Giants organization that quite frankly FORGOT how to WIN before Him coming here in 2004!
   Tom Coughlin Coached the Giants to a Superbowl victory in Superbowl XLII in 2008! I love his coaching style! The problem is Spoiled, Pampered athletes that hate taking orders! Too bad! Get over it! Case in point Plexi(Classless)co Buriss! He should have opened his ears and shut his whiny mouth the night he decided to enter a NY nightclub with a loaded gun! Look where his arrogance and “Let’s have fun” mentality got him! It got him a cold, dank prison cell! He cost us another trip to a Superbowl!
    So do me a favor, don’t cut down Coach Coughlin for his methods! And BTW I live about 5 miles from Coach Coughlin’s home town , so f you think you know more about Coughlin than I do, or his career achievements, you don’t!

Yes…But Coughlin compared to Rolle???

some of the silent majority support for him. I have enjoyed reading this post and its subsequent debate. And even with some of the stupid things Rolle has said this year, I like him as a player. He has some " Crazed Dog" leadership qualities in him I think…