New York Giants Notes: Fewell Running Out Of Options
by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2011 11:01 AM EST
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The big story with the Giants right now is the status of defensive coordinator Perry Fewell. He interviews in Cleveland today for the Browns head-coaching job, but it looks increasingly like Fewell is going to have to wait for his shot at an NFL top job.
Evaluating Eli Manning at 30: You'll Miss Him When He's Gone - NYTimes.com
Eli Manning turned 30 on Monday. In the ongoing debate, comparing him favorably to one of his now-beloved predecessors, Phil Simms, is to evoke an emotional response usually along the lines of "you're crazy." Evaluating their relative strengths and weaknesses in playing the position would make for an interesting discussion. When it comes to their achievements, however, Manning's far surpass those of Simms at a comparable age, and it's not even close.
Eli Manning seems destined, like Simms, to be fully appreciated only retrospectively. The Bills are still trying to replace Jim Kelly 14 years after he played his final game. With all due respect to Jay Fiedler and Jeff Garcia, the same holds true for the Dolphins and Dan Marino and the 49ers and Steve Young. Those guys are hard to find.
Many fans have been down on Manning for years. Someday, the Giants will have to replace him. Perhaps only then, when they witness what is likely to follow, will they finally embrace him. By that time, of course, many of them will probably be saying that they supported him all along.
This. Yes, why didn't I write this? Eli Manning is not Joe Montana, Tom Brady or his brother. He is, however, a franchise quarterback who has already shown he can win when it counts most. We will miss him when he's gone, whether you want to admit that or not.
Sinorice Moss signs with Eagles - Giants Blog - ESPN New York
Former Giants wide receiver Sinorice Moss signed a reserve/future contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, according to the team. Moss, the Giants' 2006 second-round pick, was waived off the Giants' injured reserve list earlier in the season. He was placed on IR at the end of August due to a sports hernia.
Here are a few other stories of interest around the NFL ...
12 seasons. Nine postseason appearances. Six division titles. Five conference championship game appearances, And one Super Bowl appearance.
And I’m suggesting that the Eagles get rid of the guy?
Absolutely.
Amazing! Obviously, New York fans aren't the only ones who go a little nuts when their team loses. Our man Mike was telling me that Reid was absolutely getting killed on Philly talk radio Monday. The guy, much like Tom Coughlin, is a terrific coach most any team would love to have.
Andy Reid on Philadelphia Eagles' starting QB in '11: 'We'll see' - ESPN
Michael Vick is set to become a free agent, and there are no guarantees he'll be back with the Eagles.
Tennessee Titans' Vince Young would be good fit for several NFL teams | tennessean.com | The Tennessean
Titans writer John Glennon examines some of the potential destinations for Vince Young next season.
Lynch's TD run had seismic impact around Seattle stadium - NFL - CBSSports.com Football
John Vidale didn't get to see Seattle's upset of New Orleans in the first round of the NFL playoffs live, so he turned to the Internet to watch highlights later that night.
Turns out, Lynch's TD shook Qwest Field and the ground around the stadium -- literally.
Vidale said a seismic monitoring station located about 100 yards west of the stadium registered seismic activity during Lynch's run. The shaking was most intense during a 30-second stretch about the time Lynch broke free from the line of scrimmage, finished off his touchdown and celebrated in the end zone with his teammates.
After that, Vidale said, the shaking died down, but it took about a minute for the shaking to completely fade away.
This was the first time Vidale has taken a look at the monitoring station near the stadium. He said the station that picked up the tremors is mostly concerned with monitoring the two-level viaduct highway that runs along the Seattle waterfront and the seawall.
49ers tight end Vernon Davis: I don't miss Mike Singletary - NFL - Sporting News
San Francisco tight end Vernon Davis continues to rail on 49ers former coach Mike Singletary, as he was most recently video taped by TMZ.com expressing his true thoughts.
Davis, when asked if he missed Singletary, responded: "No I don’t miss Singletary. … I don’t miss Singletary right now.
"I think we did play tight. Guys were a little scared. They were more worried about coach Singletary getting on them than playing football," Davis said.
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best run ive ever seen in my life
Marshawn Lynch
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions
Me, too
I’ve never seen anything quite like it. I loved the ‘get the heck off me’ stiff-arm where he just pushed off and stepped away from the guy. Great stuff.
by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
tracy porter
that was the best part… the way he almost fell backwards cause he stiff armed him so hard was the great
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
He Disrespected Porter to the fullest
man i know he wish that film didnt exist.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Best playoff run in history..
Just the way he did it..refused to go down..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Overall absolutely
but it does remind me of a one Otis Anderson in the SB. When he wound up and pummeled Mark Kelso and his oblonged helmet.
Run like you are the aggressor and make them think about hitting you next time.
Jacobs started to get back to that this year.
Next year I think he comes back to it fully.
even my wife does not play football
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2011 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
damn these mobile devices
Even my wife who does not like football was amazed at the run. Gotta give him credit for the spirit.!
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2011 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just watched it again a few times
That is the best straight arm I have EVER seen.
Take Dis Porter, and siddown. Wow. Porter must be embarrassed at being manhandled like he was a toy.
Give the man his do respect, that was a model for all RBs to follow.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Agree on the model part.
I wanna see that from Jacobs and Bradshaw.
"Kurt Smells Like Teen Spirit"
by Gelatin on Jan 11, 2011 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
Best run ever that i have witnessed but i am not surprised at all, i always thought he ran tougher than most backs .
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
It had it's moments
I can remember off the top of my head several Barry Sanders runs that had just as big of a wow factor. but if you add the timing and significance to a playoff game it will go down as one of the best ever.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jan 11, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions
With all the badgering Coughlin and now Ried has taken..
Perhaps they can both hook up and ressurect the ‘Laurel and Hardy Show’…’
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Lol
I always thought Abbott and Costello were funnier. Either would work.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jan 11, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Well...I agree..I just thought that..
Tom would look cute in a derby hat..and Reid already has the mustchase..justa little trim..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Great point about Eli
and the same I think goes for Coughlin. you may not get everything you want, but you know the positives will outweigh the negatives, and you simply cannot guarantee that a replacement will be an upgrade.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jan 11, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions
giants fans
who bash and hate eli dont watch every game all the way through and disect the plays the way a diehard giants/FOOTBALL fan does
thats my opinion
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
This is one of my favorite arguments ever. “If you don’t agree with me it is only because I am smarter than you.”
by BigBlue4Life on Jan 11, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
People who think Phil Simms was better are high. I look back upon the Parcells era as fondly as any Giants fan, but there were long stretches, if not whole years, where the offense was anemic. Phil was a fighter, and gave you everything he had. However, he was extremely immobile and did not move around well in the pocket. Defenses who pressured the QB well were like kryptonite for him. The Buddy Ryan Eagles used to just sack him every play.
I don't think Simms...
was better than Eli, but I also think your representation doesn’t tell the whole story. Simms teams where always run, run, run if reasonable/pass if absolutely necessary. Playcalling didn’t give Simms the luxury of keeping the defense off balance. Thus everybody, including their wives who didn’t watch football knew when he was going to pass. So defenses would either load up the blitz, or drop into heavy coverage making it very tough for him to succeed.
Ohh for the time machine. I would have loved to see what Simms could do in this Giants offense with legitimate weapons on the outside and a strong running game. I don’t think he puts up the same numbers as Eli because he did get hurt way to often early, but I’m sure his numbers improve dramatically.
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by Intellectual Derriere on Jan 12, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
OK good point but what about accounting for the disparity in the quality of WR these guys played with?
Eli:Toomer(2nd rd.),Burress(1st),Shockey(1st),Steve Smith(2nd),Nicks(1st)HAM.
Simms:Steven Baker,Mark Ingram,Mcconkey,whoever else he had was marginal.Aside from Bavaro of course.
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 13, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Its a love/hate thing with Eli...
I respect Eli a lot, because there are certain aspects of his game that he has elevated, such as not taking so long to read the defenses and change the play before the clock runs down to 1. Like not completely panicking when he sees the blitz coming at him. Eli is our quarterback and most likely will be until the twilight of his career, but I hope that he still can improve on his flaws and not be complacent with what he has accomplished so far. Some players loose the hunger and desire to get better after they have won a championship, and I hope that’s not the case with him because it doesn’t seem that way to me. I still get pissed off when he does the boneheaded things that embarrass and hurt the team, and hopefully he will outgrow those things. I know that every Giants fan expects a lot out of Eli, and that just comes with the territory because of his last name, and what team he plays for. So he knows that he is gonna take a ton of heat for the f#ck-ups, and a lot of praise for the good things. My only thing with him is, try not to make the f*ck-ups look so bad( If that’s even possible)
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Jan 11, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions
I agree with everything that you have said Paulie but if I may add...
If he can continue to elevate it in terms of:
Running the ball more when opportunities present themselves.
Diving at the end of the run instead of taking a unnecessary hit.
Throwing the ball out of bounds when he can’t find a open WR.
Working on his tendency to throw the ball too high so his WR won’t be left at the mercy of opposing DBs.
He will be ok.
28 points in 7:28. Yeah, thats the punter's fault.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 11, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't agree with number one Lo
First, we’ve seen what Eli does when he runs the ball, it’s just not his style (to say the least lol).
II. Eli is out there week in, and week out for a reason. It has a lot to do with him not scrambling.
C: Eli only took 16 sacks this season, behind a patchwork offensive line..it was good for first in the league, tied with the other Manning. Many outsiders will attribute that as to a “great offensive line”, but we Giants fans know this has been a bit of a misconception throughout E’s career. His offensive lines have always been very productive in the run game, but have mostly left something wanting in pass protection. Fortunately for us Eli has been one of the best in the league at moving within the pocket, avoiding sacks, and giving himself a chance at a big play, which is what he excels at most.
7-9 gets a home playoff game. Ugh.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jan 12, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
I would agree to some degree with most of what you have said Tito, but I am inclined to disagree with this part.
Eli has been one of the best in the league at moving within the pocket, avoiding sacks, and giving himself a chance at a big play, which is what he excels at most.
Eli is a sitting duck in the pocket because of his inability to scramble. Granted he has shown flashes of greatness in this situation a times; for the most part, he i not seen as a threat. I think that a good example of this perception of Eli by opponents is the amount of field that they leave in front of him when they are not blitzing. When Eli has decided to run, he has picked up at least 10-15 yards before he was touched.
28 points in 7:28. Yeah, thats the punter's fault.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
About Lynch's run....
I don’t want to take anything away from ML but that was the worst attempts at tackling I’ve ever seen in my life. It looked like he expected to be tackled about three times and was shocked when he wasn’t. I put that run more on the Saints horrible tackling. It almost looked like the Saints didn’t want to tackle him!
"bleedblue12 is an idiot"-wild_eagle
"The Eagles still have 0 SB wins"-bleedblue12
The saints always try to strip the ball instead of wrapping up.
They’ve been successful with that in the past, this time it cost em big.
Let's get Nnamdi
No so sure I'm overly concerned about Fewell leaving.
I don’t think I’ll sing the blues if he’s gone. After all, he’s got to take the biggest hit from that Philly nightmare, especially when we’ve see the Eagles lose out since then. They are, and were completely beatable, and we “Let em off the Hook” (to quote Denny Green). I put that squarely on Fewell. Also there’s been alot of the same ridiculous miscues that were there last year. The big plays, the secondary, etc, I just don’t think he’s the greatest thing to happen to defense.
And let me say this. Wouldn’t you love to see old John Fox coaching the D, with the HC job waiting in the wings. I could see that.
This article is so true...
And beat me to the punch. After posting a rather lengthy retort on the QB Evaluation thread I was going to start a Fan Post on this articles very topic.
For me, I know Eli’s better than even I give him credit for because he inspires a response from me. Just like Simms did, Eli drives me to emotional responses. Sometimes great, sometimes not so great. But in both cases the thought of someone else stepping in irks me. Every QB between Simms and Eli just made me numb and I constantly thought about how the Giants would replace them.
Do I think there are better QB’s than Eli, absolutely. But Eli, with all his warts is a Giant and I personally wouldn’t have it any other way.
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by Intellectual Derriere on Jan 11, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions
I'm the same way
And the other thing I have noticed about the QBs between simms and eli, is that it recently included 2 guys (Collins / Warner) that were better players both before and after they were with the Giants. Dont know if thats a coaching thing, a media pressure thing… whatever. Just think its notable.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 11, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure I'd say Collins was better at Tennessee
It seemed like he did very little there and got credit for a great D and strong running game
Warner in AZ was a perfect fit, his strength was quick release and a great deep ball. Fitzgerald Boldin and Co were perfect mates.
True that!
As shaky as a year Eli had, I still have him way down my list of concerns. I also feel that a better OC would help him greatly. I really don’t believe much in Gilbride. I keep my fingers crossed in hopes he gets that Connecticut job he supposedly has grips on, even though he probably inserted himself as the front runner like he did with Oakland in 2008.
eli manning is a slightly above average QB
who stays healthy. That’s it. He’s not elite.
For me I think an average of 90+ QB rating would put you into the elite category. 12 guys have done it for their career. Eli has done it once. For reference Rivers, yup that Rivers, has a 97.2. Yikes.
i should point out
that an above average qb is a valuable asset. So, I’m happy to have him.
by Mike Clemente on Jan 11, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
QB rating system is flawed
I’m not saying Rivers isn’t good. He is. I’m not saying that Eli is better than Rivers. The QB rating system is far from a complete picture. It doesn’t take weather into account. It must be nice playing all of your home games in nearly perfect weather, all the time. It doesn’t take quality of opponents into account. It certainly doesn’t take the offensive system into account. Shorter passes are easier to complete. Higher completion percentage and fewer INTs make for a nicer looking QB rating.
Chad Pennington has one of the highest QB ratings of all time....
Better then Dan Marino and John Elway. Now you’re not trying to tell me Chad is better are you? The QB rating is useless and should be eliminated completely!
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by bleedblue12 on Jan 16, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
What I love most about this site, and others like it...
By that time, of course, many of them will probably be saying that they supported him all along.
We have plenty of documentation to prove otherwise.
7-9 gets a home playoff game. Ugh.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jan 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions
I bitch about Eli more than most.
But that article is spot on. No doubt. Be careful what you wish for. Just like calling for Coughlin’s head after a 10 win season. The grass isn’t always greener…
DWTDD
Eli is great
Are you kidding me? Eli is the best QB in our division. Vick is a better athlete but Eli is the best QB. You’d rather have Romo or whoever the starter in DC is?
Outside of Brady, Peyton, & Brees how many other teams have a lights-out QB?
Eli would be a starter on 99% of the teams in this league.
Whoever calls for his removal should have their head examined.
With all of his faults he is the best QB for NY.
Fides Non Timet
Faith without fear
idk about 99%
brady peyton brees rodgers ben rivers and many people would take vick
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't take Rodgers, Ben, or Vick.
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"The Eagles still have 0 SB wins"-bleedblue12
by bleedblue12 on Jan 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
And definitely not Rivers!!!!!!
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"The Eagles still have 0 SB wins"-bleedblue12
by bleedblue12 on Jan 16, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My brother is a Raiders fan
Just sent him the article, I may have to quote his response as I think Raiders fans want him even less than we do.
I think Al Davis stopped giving a crap what Raiders fans wanted in a previous life
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Yea, based on conversations I have with him I don’t know how he or anyone stays a Raiders fan. I am thankful that I grew up a Giants fan and not a team like the Raiders
its fun reading their blog
not so much this year, when they were actually decent and had things to be excited for. but in years past when they were absolutely dreadful, you’d read that blog and think they were coming off consecutive superbowl wins. the overwhelming blind loyalty and enthusiasm over there is staggering.
Oh please God
If you make him go, I will stop dressing up like a cheerleader and sending myself pictures of Brett Farve. At least for a week or so.
Take Tom Quinn with him and I will make that a month!
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
+1000
Sometimes the Devil you know is better than the one you don’t, but I think if our offense has a lot of young talent and in order to reach the next level we need an OC that is not so predictable.
Kevin had a good year this year I think I only cursed him under my breath in like 3 or 4 games.
PS Mr Davis please take Tom Quinn too, we will through in Reynaud a couple of tackling dummies and some duct tape!
by Late for Dinner on Jan 11, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
That's giving away too much
Duct tape is valuable people!
As much as I'd like McD
we’ve heard this story before, of Gilbride going to the Raiders.
Maybe third times the charm?
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
"idk...," etc
absolutely and perhaqps a few others
but
The way Ed has expressed Eli’s value it is impossible for me to disagree
Alot of fans
may be singing this tune when Eli is done with the Giants. (hopefully not for many years)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2011 3:42 PM EST reply actions
Regretfully and totally out of character
Though I frequently nag about his inconsistency, I do agree, we may well miss Eli when he is gone. Never know who is next though.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2011 3:44 PM EST reply actions
Kent Graham's son is the Giants next QB
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I think Archie and wife are going IVF
to create another little Manning. They will call him Man Manning, ThirdAndThree Manning, etc.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
I know this is Big Blue View and not "Maize and Blue View" but there are quite a few of us fans here.
What are your thoughts on Brady Hoke being the next coach? I’m underwhelmed but that’s mostly due to ignorance. I wanted Harbaugh or Petersen from Boise State. I don’t know what to think of this hire. I’m just tired of being embarrassed, especially to conference rivals. Hopefully, Hoke can be a young coach that brings the program back to prominence and stays for a decade.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
Great move
Its probably a lot similar to the Jim Tressel signing. Really Michigan just needed some new blood cuz Lloyd Carr seemed to just be done.
Of course they went off the reservation and went after Rich Rod. That style of offense isn’t Michigan and never will be.
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i'll never understand college football
i’ve tried, just can’t understand it.
Not sure how I feel about this either.
Don’t know much about Hoke, but it didn’t seem like there was much of an option after Harbaugh and Les Miles. I’m not even sure Les Miles would have been a good hire. Also, I read somewhere that Peterson doesn’t return phone calls about potential coaching opportunities.
The thing that I disagree about the coaching search is that it seemed too restrictive. They were looking for a Michigan man and someone with head coaching experience. After Harbaugh, Miles, and Hoke, who else is there? I would’ve liked if they looked at some hot coordinators or head coaches from the FBS ranks (that’s where Tressel came from before Ohio State), but oh well. We’ll see how it goes I guess.
if you could would you guys draft ingram or akeem ayers
Rex Ryan really needs to stop putting his foot in his mouth
Ingram.
He’s a better player. The Giants don’t need a great LB. I think Rocky McIntosh is less of a risk than Ayers anyway. Also I think Greenway is possible. If the Giants think he’s their man in FA, they’ve shown in the past few years they’re willing to spend. It might be at the expense of someone like Kiwi or Cofield, but I think they planned ahead for that anyway.
Ingram allows them to do some much more at RB, especially if he’s got at the expense of Jacobs. I think I’d rather have 2 backs that are interchagable instead of 2 backs with completely different skill sets. Bradshaw and Ingram would be an incredible duo.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 11, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and look at bradshaw mccoy and jamal charles u can get talent at rb in the later stages of draft
Rex Ryan really needs to stop putting his foot in his mouth
Charles is 100% a product of his offensive line scheme
just like the Texans with Arian Foster. Its the exact same zone blocking scheme that helped Denver recycle 1000 yd RBs.
We don’t have that.
McCoy is a product of all that speed. I don’t think if you put him in a power run game like the Giants like to do, that he’ll do all that good.
And yea..look at Bradshaw. He has his good points, but by in large he has a lot of flaw. AB always is my boy, but by and large he’s replaceable.
If you want a back that can get you 8+ strong years, most of the time you gotta look in the first round to get a great back. Wouldn’t you rather have a great, all around full time back than a guy that absolutely needs to split carries?
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true im still not sure a full time rb can hold up for 8 years though
Rex Ryan really needs to stop putting his foot in his mouth
been done before believe it or not....
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Your buggin' dude Charles is a Beast...notice the capital B.
So is Foster.They do happen to fit the scheme they are in,but you can’t take credit away when the guy proves himself on the field.
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 13, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
sorry
I mean there’s something to be said for getting a back that fits your team, but the zone blocking scheme is what’s making these guys.
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Unless you think Ayers can do the Kiwi thing
I don’t like him. I don’t think he is the type of player you want to play LB in a nickel package, so unless he can start at SAM and rush from the line in nickel and dime packages I think it is a waste of a first round pick. I also like Rocky because he can play all three downs. He is a quality dependable player and knows the division well. He would be a smart pickup.
My dream world is the LB unit gets the treatment this year that the safety position got last year, two FAs and a top 3 draft pick. Greenway if we could get him would be huge, and I think he could play the middle. Then a slightly less high profile FA to take Boley’s job. I like a guy like McIntosh or maybe Session here. Then in the second or more likely third we grab another. I’d love to see us get Colin McCarthy in the third to play SAM. The guy has played every LB spot so he gives you good versatility, but let the vets of Greenway and McIntosh handle the every down while McCarthy thumps em in the base package and obliterates people on ST.
Ayers IS the type you want in a nickel package.
his best trait is how good he is in coverage. I’d be worried about his ability to stop the run, but I don’t think that’s a problem for us at all.
He’s probably more of a WLB than Boley (or whatever the hell Fewell’s gonna call it).
But yea, Greenway is ideal. McCarthy is a solid middle round one too.
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Hmmm
Maybe I’m getting tripped up on his size and all the talk of him being a 34 prospect. UCLA is not a team I watch regularly, so I’ll have to take your word in this respect. Hopefully they get this CBA ironed out soon so there can be some more clarity around the FA market.
UCLA plays a 4-3
I don’t watch much UCLA either, but from what I’ve looked up on Ayers is that he never leaves the field and is better in coverage.
He’s really not much of a pass rusher. I think he compares more to Karlos Dansby than he does your boy Sintim.
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A Dansby type I could take
Actually a Dansby type I could love. Last FA I really wanted us to get Dansby a lot more than Rolle. I really don’t want another Sintim is my main fear. If I start hearing talk about Von Miller to the Giants I might just go insane.
The thing with the first round this year is the number of tackles that could be there, and it looks like a lot of quality starters. Even my LB obsessed noggin thinks this team should probably pass up LB in the first to get one of those tackles. We need at a minimum a future at the RT spot, and I’m not confident we have a future at LT right now either. Deihl isn’t quite up to snuff and Beatty just hasn’t manned up to the job. It is hard to say when or if that will happen.
Where is Frankb..???
I sent a note to Ed..got no response..Where is Frankb????
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ed only responds to people who constantly agree with him....
FrankB got banned for using the initials POS…..that’s right using INITIALS. Just shows you that if you want to be able to say anything you have to keep your opinion to yourself if it’s different then Ed’s. The double standard on this site is unreal!!!!
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by bleedblue12 on Jan 16, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I want Frankb back...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..
Any opinions out there?
I had a friend who consistently views the Giants (and Eli) as a “glass half empty”, I like to tell him. He stated today that the Giants, as a team, are not even CLOSE to being a championship caliber team. I asked him to support that claim. He’s working on it. What do you think?
Please God don't let the detestable Mike Vick and the Eagles win the Super Bowl!
I think he should get he should complete the first grade
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
He's working on that too
Please God don't let the detestable Mike Vick and the Eagles win the Super Bowl!
Nice analysis Larry
And I have faith in JR myself
Please God don't let the detestable Mike Vick and the Eagles win the Super Bowl!
personally i think were on the decline
our d is getting older eli is already 30 our oline is soo old so i think we will be average for the next three years, unless we have an AMAZING draft
Rex Ryan really needs to stop putting his foot in his mouth
Decline?
-The Giants starting D’s average age is 27 with one starter over the age of 30 (Deon Grant who we could very well find a younger replacement in the draft or FA). They have JPP and Linval waiting to step up and I am still not giving up completely on Sintim and Tracy.
-Eli turned 30 earlier this week…and? Has he shown signs of his body breaking down? Is there less zip on his ball because he turned 30? I believe he is in his prime and will have the ability to play at a high caliber level for at least the remainder of his contract.
-Our O-line is getting old. I’ll give you that.
-But Mac had a pro bowl year despite not getting voted in. I see at least one to two more years left of him at RT (more than enough time to groom someone).
-Snee showed no signs of decline and is 28.
-O’Hara was injured for a better part of the year and should have been shut down. He could play at a high level for another year, but even still…how did Koets look standing in for him?
-Richie has my vote for team MVP. Its a shame he went down against the Skins and reports are that his surgery went well. I anticipate him making a return and fighting for his starting spot. However, Petrus looks like a Snee clone and is an animal. I see a bright future for him.
-Diehl got injured and missed the first significant time of his career. He is not their future at LT and needs swallow his pride and realize it. He has the potential to be more than adequate at LG or super sub for the next couple of years. Andrews needs to get his back figured out. If he does, he showed great potential at LT. If he doesn’t, no big deal. Beatty stepped up at the end of the season. I would have liked to see him stay in there the last few games, but he showed he can start at LT. At the very worst he can replace Mac at RT and they are one draft pick or FA away from shoring up the O-line for years to come IMO.
I have faith that JR will re-sign his guys and will make a run at at least top tier FA (ahem Namdi) while picking up a sleeper or two. As long as he doesn’t draft a 3-4 OLB, whoever he decides pick up in April will be a contributor next year and the potential for years to come.
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 11, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just saw the MarShawn Lynch
run for the first time (I was under a rock) and damn! MarShawn Lynch to Tracy Porter is like an adult to an infant. I wanted MarShawn as a Giant before he was traded, we could have offered Buddy Nix a 1st rounder but he would have been too deaf and dumb to understand it.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jan 11, 2011 7:58 PM EST reply actions
Eli Manning sucks
Gilbride sucks. being in the top ten offenses year after year sucks. Coughlin suck, as does making the playoffs 75% of the time. Having a franchise quarterback is awful, and i think we need to draft a QB to light a fire under Eli.
(Did I mention JPP was an awful pick).
OK, laugh at my sarcasm, and stop hating.
-Pataroons the gilbride apoligist
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