New York Giants Notes: Jay Alford An Oakland Raider
by Ed Valentine on Sep 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT
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PrintFormer New York Giants defensive tackle Jay Alford, released last week, has signed with the Oakland Raiders. With deposed Giants defensive line coach Mike Waufle in Oakland now we should have seen this one coming. Oakland or St. Louis, where Steve Spagnuolo is head coach, were the likely landing spots for Alford.
I wish the guy well. Too bad, but there just wasn't room for him here with the Giants.
Now that he is definitely part of the starting unit, you can expect veteran linebacker Keith Bulluck to be much more vocal.
Season Previews
This is the time when everyone is writing season previews. Here are a few that I found around the Inter-Google.
- The Dallas Star-Telegram previews the NFC East
- Here is an NFC preview from the Charlotte Observer
- A preview of the Carolina Panthers, Sunday's opponent, from SBNation.com
- ESPN has five things to watch for with the 2010 Giants
- The New York Post says the Giants are playoff-bound
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Bulluck
I absolutely think his addition was needed.. He may not make all the plays we need him to but undoubtedly he will make everyone around him better. The guy is a warrior, one of the toughest.
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
I agree
Also the fact that the article says “these no name linebackers”. Do they really not know who Keith Bulluck is?
RV has the 'Skins winning the East....
just thought I’d throw that out there….
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
Yeah, and Daily News..
has us dead last. Ralph V. ‘s has a live chat right now, on the blue screen. He just put me in my place regarding Bradshaw’s role. (but I don’t really agree with him, ha.)
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried to comment....
it never showed up so i left….
You see anything in there from Andiamo? I asked him about Koets….
waited around…and left.
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
not yet...
but it takes a little bit. Mine showed up a half hour after i sent it. just check back. I wish I didn’t send it, I don’t like his answer!! ha.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
antonio pierce
also picked the skins on espn
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Ralphie must be smoking medicinal weed
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
...and Antonio needs to get that neck fixed..it is effecting his brain
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Patience is a virtue.
It’s also a luxury we don’t have. I just don’t think Bulluck will really be Bulluck until about week 4 or 5. I hope I’m wrong. Regarding Alford, the same thing kind of applies – he was improving, but not fast enough. A year from now, the Raidahs may find they have a player. I wish him luck.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Why can't we have patience?
The season won’t be over by week 4. If we are 2-2 or even 1-3 and Bulluck is back to normal we’re not dead in the water.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 8, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What's wrong with patience?
I’d rather not have the team “peak” after 5 games like last year. Rather go 1-4 to start, then go 9-2 to finish the season. Much better then 5-0, then 3-8 to finish the season right?
Depends
if we started 3-8 last year and finished 5-0 we wouldn’t be in a much different situation now.
The whole peaking and strong finishing is very overrated. Every game is a potential W and every W is important.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 8, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
it’s undeniably good to be playing your best football in Dec./January
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 9, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
course I'd like to go 16 and O
but to think that patience is wrong if a team starts out 1-4 is ignoring last year. Patience is always needed. Especially with a team that has a new defensive coordinator.
Strong finishing is never overrated, since if you win in the playoffs that’s finishing strong. The Giants have started strong in each of the last 2 seasons but finished very weakly even if they won their way to a top seed in 2008.
2007 they finished strong despite their record in December, even that loss against NE was beneficial…they played strong.
You can’t finish weak. You must be playing good football at the end of the season regardless of whether you win or lose.
As long as you don't dig too big a hole at the beginning
Yes finishing strong is key to postseason success.
Saints lost their last 3 games last year
Colts their last 2
by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet. Love it when Raiders become Giants and Giants become Raiders.
"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige's Blackboard
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
I pledge allegiance to the Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Alford
We can always remember him pummeling Brady on 2nd and 10 with 20 seconds left in XLII. Good luck big man.
personally
I’d rate 1986 higher. Both were incredible but 86 came after years of suffering.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
the difference
is the 86 giants were a great team…. the giants sucked in 07 and had the best run ever
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 8, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
DOMINANCE
That’s what made 86 so great. As a Giants fan we suffered for year. In 85 we had a very good team. The way it ended in Chicago with the whiffed punt left a bad taste. To bounce back was incredible. After losing in week 1 on MNF football we only lost one other game. Then to continue through the playoffs and SB!!!
AWESOME YEAR!
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Would have loved to really remember it
But I was four years old. What was so special about XLII was who we beat, and how we did it.
by YankeeDudeL on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
10-6 is a sucky team?
Damn expectations are high!
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 8, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the first one
is sweetest
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
I Just Hope
That fans can stop trying to appoint somebody as the leader on defense, or say “Justin Tuck has to step up and become more of a leader”.
Those players that ARE leaders WILL eventually step up. From the players talk that I have heard, Kenny Phillips was more of a leader than anyone before he got hurt. Maybe he will be the one if he gets substantial playing time, or maybe Antrel Rolle as a vet.
Anyway, let nature take its course and let the true leaders step up – we don’t need to appoint them or put pressure on them to do things that are not in their nature. If you are a quiet player that just comes and does your job, then thats what you are.
Fun to read the out of town stuff...
The Charlotte blurb on the Giants was unusually astute.
On the other hand, while I couldn’t find the exact article linked to the Dallas paper, there was plenty of stupidity to be found. I think my favorite was a paragraph about how the author thought the criticism of Romo was comical. As support, she stated that Kolb and McNabb aren’t any good, and that New York should thank the almighty that little Manning won his one Superbowl.
Hee hee hee! I guess it wouldn’t be nice for me to reply to that article by stating that the Cowboys should also thank the almighty for allowing them to win one playoff game every 13 years.
but dont forget...
its because of that playoff game, that Romo is now ready to be king of the world! haha
Horrible article
She had the cowboys playing the Bills in the superbowl
I had to check the date to see if it was from this century
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
I keep reading/hearing
how the Cowgirls have improved themselves this past off-season. How? Some point to the addition of Dez. So what! He might be a star but can the kid play a down before we anoint him?
The media is a freaking joke. It has gotten so bad. ESPN is almost unwatchable. Every prediction is predicated on what have you done for me in the last 5 minutes. I was shocked when Adam Shefter last week predicted the Giants will win the division.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
They're pretty dang lazy.
The Cowgirls will be lucky to make the playoffs. Seriously. Their OL is terrible. Their QB is so/so. I have no idea why their running backs aren’t better – they sure look good – but they’re not. Their DBs are suspect. Their LBs don’t scare me. Which leaves them with a good DL, Witten, and a rookie WR who might be great or might suck or might get hurt. I’m not saying they suck. They don’t suck. But prohibitive super bowl favorites? People must be watching a different Cowboys team.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Cowboys could go 2-14
and they would be SB favorites next year
I think their defense is the real deal with their offense is very overrated.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 8, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor guy...
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I suspect that it will be OSI we see leading pre-game huddles
and walking up and down the bench talking to the defense ala Strahan. Tuck and the other quieter guys will be slapping people in the back of the head if they talk crap after Osi walks away. A leader with bad ass enforcers!!!
But ON the field, I think that once Bullock gets in game mode he won’t even be able to not take control. The fire in his belly will just have be released.
…and that is what I’d like for Christmas, Santa!!
he's gotta
do it on the field before he can lead in the huddles and on the field.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Actions speak louder than words..
Tuck Osi and Phillips need to charge the team batteries and they need to be relentless and consistent..We need them to be like LT, Carson and Banks were on defense and I’m looking for Eli to takeover complete leadership on offense..He has certainly come along ways since Tiki left, but he can do more. Offense needs to rally around the QB..On Defense you can have several leaders..Offense has to have one the QB.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
RV:
“I’m going to support Kenny,” Grant said “But I’m not going to sit here like its all peaches and cream. In my mind I’m not a backup.”
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
apparently KP has been named the starter....
boy was it a breath of fresh air to see him out there laying the wood vs. the Pats…..
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
That is great to here
Count me as one of the people that didnt really expect much from him this year. I hope he picks up where he left off (2 picks). Hopefully Chad can make a recovery.
so let me ask you guys a question (or am i talking to myself?)
what’s our nickel package going to look like on Sunday?
Obviously Cweb, TT, KP, AR….but who’s the 5th DB off the bench? Bruce Johnson? Deon Grant? Michael Johnson? DJ Joh….LMAO….sorry, couldn’t help myself there.
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
can ross go this weekend?
I think Cweb is a lock but I didn’t know Ross was?
If so, than i agree with you it will be ross….aka the Real Giants version of Wally Pipp
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
i think if ross is out,
I’d like to see some time with a 3 safety package.
My idea is that we can keep the starting corners (most likely CWeb and TT) on the field and move Antrel Rolle (drafted as a CB and played as such his first 3 years in zona) as the nickel corner. He has the speed and coverage skills to be able to cover the slot.
Then, I would roll (get it??) KP over to FS where I think his natural position is and plug Deon Grant in at SS. So its almost like a 2 CB, 2 Safety look with a hybrid CB/S (Rolle) in the nickel.
Uh hello, planes? It's blimps. You win.
How about some 4-2-5
Phillips has the range to be that single high safety. Grant and Rolle could play the rover spots.
GASP
5-1-5 anyone?
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
who would be
the fast coverage 1 LB?
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's from last year
Where we said we’d get some 5-1-5 looks because of how many dlineman we had/have.
Personally I’d put Boley there.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
4-2-5 is the nickle package
Every team runs it often
I think that Ross will be fine but if not Bruce Johnson is an OK nickleback as well.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 8, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I mean the 4-2-5 not the nickle
I don’t just mean 4 lineman 2 LBs and 5 DBs, I mean the 4-2-5 set/system. It is a defense used in college ball to compete with spread offenses. You lineup 4 lineman with 2 LBs behind. You have 2 corners on the edges like regular. The difference is you have 1 free safety who plays a single high centerfield position and two strong safeties (also called rovers) who play down by the line. I think it could work well with a safety rich team like ours. The formation has several advantages. The rovers down closer to the line can better attack the short passign game. The rovers can also roll into LB type rolls if the play goes run. The formation also makes it hard for the QB to get a preread because it is symetrical and you can do a lot of different things after the snap with blitzing or dropping into zones etc. You need a rangey centerfield safety which we have in KP and some strong guys that can also cover to play rover which we have in Rolle and Grant. Ross also has the size and penchant for hitting that would make a good rover.
I heard he is expected to be able to go but......
You never know with him. He has the plantar fascitis (spelling) in 1 foot and he could pop the hammy in the opposite leg at any time now.
I'm more comfortable...
with Rolle coming down to the nickel, and Grant at safety, (if Ross is out) than Bruce Johnson at this point.
In Reese I Trust.
from the looks of it, Fewell likes that option as well
of course we have seen AR get beat by a couple TEs in man coverage….but that doesn’t mean it will stop.
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
wow didn't see this post
said basically same thing just above. oops
Uh hello, planes? It's blimps. You win.
To be honest..I really see our guys winning the east..
Then it will be a real challenge..We don’t lollipop (reference BBV Thesaurus) as much as the rest of the division..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
history repeats itself
Alford’s a good guy, hopefully he does better out there than William Joseph.
Did the Post not get the message that Andre Brown...
won’t be returning kickoffs because he’s not on the roster?
just you
mobile qb… all speed receivers…. and a speedy outside the tackles running game…
the giants got a statue pocket passer…. possession receivers…. and a power inside the tackles running game…(yes even though ahmad is fast he still runs like a power guy)
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean more or less
This past offseason. I joked that they stole the guys we wanted in the draft due to our shellacking of them last year, and now signing Alford. its more of a half-serious comment, but these were all good moves for them.
by YankeeDudeL on Sep 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know about you guys..
But I am going to be walking around with a huge boner until Sunday evening..I already told the wife that she can’t go near it until the game is over..If the Giants kick er, hiney than she can have her way with it…If they lose, I’ll just dry-hump her with a limp sullen depressed “Uncle Willy and the Twins”,,I hope I didn’t break any BBV rules by saying that
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I'm guessing you did
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 9, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I just picked up the SI NFL preview edition
They ( Peter King I guess, not too high on him) have Alford as the starting DT. I know it was published before he was dropped but is this more of a detriment to Peter King’s ability to predict line ups, the Giants front office for letting Alford go or Chris Canty’s inability to be the quality free agent that we think he can be? I hope it’s not all three. I would love for Canty to have a big year, even if it’s under the radar stuff.
Peter King....Hmmm..
Let me reference my BBV Thesaurus..Hmmm..There are two : “You are a silly one” or “Donkey Bong”….Hmmm..
Peter King..“Donkey Bong” is appropriate..Yep
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Barring injuries,we have the NFC East
I wonder what Peter’s thing thinks about…I must behave so I’ll refrain..but commissioner Ed knows I’ll be sharp and ready for the regular season…Hi Ed !!!..My goal is to make y’all laugh, your life miserable (because you don’t really like to chew me out , only I do haha)…Anyway, we are in the playoffs for sure..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
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