Who is your bottom 5?

by 27Tango on Sep 7, 2010 1:54 AM EDT

Everybody has been dissecting the roster and practice squad of the past couple of days. Thoughts of trades & other scenarios have been mentioned as well. So, it got me thinking if things are to get better with this current 53 man roster - which 5 are still upgradeable, who do you think are the bottom 5 players of the crew?

DJ Johnson

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I have listed my bottom 5 players (1. being at the bottom, 2. being next from the bottom and so on...):

DJ Johnson (IDK about this guy.. box safety=ok, I'll buy that...other than that...crapshoot)
Michael Johnson (he's okay for now, esp. when we have a stronger player next to him, but we can do better)
Travis Beckum (he just hasn't showed anything yet)
Adam Koets (looked decent at C at times...)
Dave Tollefson (good all around serviceable DE, you can say he's just a good DE backup and ST player)

Honestly, this was harder to put together than I thought. After the first 2, I had a difficult time rounding out the 5. Now, I'm not saying these guys suck. More like they are at the bottom of the list that round out the team. Basically, the guys I believe are the most upgradeable from the rest of the bunch.
I'm giving Sage and Reynaud a pass this time around, since I haven't seen them play on Blue yet. And although I'm not a fan of Sage, he's had a decent career and will be serviceable once he gets the offense/language down. Reynaud is basically an upgrade over anybody else we had at that position (not including Hixon, time will tell though).
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I'd agree with you that the first moves the Giants make to the roster...

they’ll be shedding Johnsons (and D.J. first). But I doubt that there’ll be much need to go beyond that as past history has shown that injuries will start arriving. Beckum hasn’t shown anything yet, but he’s also one of only two at TE, so the vultures aren’t landing on him just yet. Tolly I could see being traded if someone offered something of use, but that would more likely happen later, after another team has suffered an injury or two and needs a DE.

by Cranky50 on Sep 7, 2010 6:51 AM EDT reply actions

Still gotta laugh at the Beckum hate.

never have I seen essentially rookies get hated on so much. Really hope he gets out on the field and shuts this bullcrap up.
I only have 2, and that’s DJ Johnson and Adam Koets. I’d throw Sage Rosenfels in there too I guess.

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 7, 2010 7:03 AM EDT reply actions

not necessarily hate

The thread is the bottom 5 players. I think listing Beckum in the bottom 5 is fair. To date he’s done nothing while most others have contributed something. Even a guys like Cruz & Bomar got themselves noticed during the preseason.

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by FrankB03 on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd put Bomar and Cruz in the bottom 5

Duke Calhoun too, no doubt. Preseason is lovely, but largely preseason stars are irrelevant by the time the real games starts.

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 7, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually considered them too

but at least for now…they have shown “Something” positive…so I would think since that is their first impression on the coaching staff, that’s a very good thing for them.

But no hate on Beckum- just a disappointed is what happened, whether it was his fault or not, it is what it is for him…and I agree in general that is only his second season, so I still have a lot of hope there for the guy…I did vote that it would be his breakout year on a previous poll on here and that was due in large part to what I was going by from his own interview after one of the Spring OTAs of what he expected from himself and the amount of work he was putting in to learning things.

"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck

by 27Tango on Sep 8, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions

thanks, Frank, that's exactly my point

"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck

by 27Tango on Sep 8, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions

No love

Beckum really hasnt done anthing to warrant praise of bashing. Hes young and still adjusting to everything. I say koets, dj johnson and i dont know. Its hard to pick backup players and say we need to upgrade it, they are reserves for a reason.

by cjraymz56 on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

okay fair enough on Beckum....

I believe like most that he hasn’t shown anything…and I also do believe that he is only in his second year – so I agree with that statement somewhat…
the thing with him…is I honestly believe he belongs in the bottom, b/c quite frankly Bear Pascoe has shown that to me, he is a more important piece to this team than Becks…purely on his blocking, heart, and the willingness to do anything for the team….

"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck

by 27Tango on Sep 8, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions

DJ Ware is 1 of the 5

he’s shown us nothing and seems to dislike ST’s. I still perfer AB2 but oh well

by #56 4life on Sep 7, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions

yeh, shame with AB2...

I hear ya on DJ Ware, I was considering him too, but he has shown enough during this preseason at least ( or more so, just his showing in the New England game)…

"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck

by 27Tango on Sep 8, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions

The Duke and " Becks" only because are lovely O coordinater cant seem to incorporate him.

DJ, MJ and Koats

by Troy O on Sep 7, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions

for me

DJ Ware, DJ Johnson, Michael Johnson, Travis B and sadly…Barden. The last two guys have to prove they deserve to be on the field, we all expect big offense from them this year. I was gonna throw Bruce Johnson in there too cause I had a name theme going but I like him as the 4th corner, plus that INT in dallas was great last year.

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 7, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions

I was going to just put all the "Johnsons" - and I remembered Bruce as well..lol

"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck

by 27Tango on Sep 8, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions

i would change 2 guys

i would take beckum and michael johnson out and replace them with duke calhoun and and kehl…

johnson was an important part of the super bowl run and he was the best safety on the roster last season

beckum is going to be a hybrid guy playing some receiver out there this year and i expect big things (i also LOVE this guy in madden)

kehl i feel has not shown anything whatsoever and i dont think he should have made the final cut

duke calhoun barely made the team and to be honest i would have rather had hagan for his special teams ability

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions

Kehl

was that GUY who stopped the RB from crossing the goal-line against the Ravens
him and JPP, but Kehl was there first and basically pulled the RB back…he also chased down 2 receivers who were on their way to TDs…so I would disagree with you, he’s young & has shown enough to make it on the team…but I do know that based off of regular season play is was more like meh and practice/preseason highlights hasn’t translated in the regular games just yet. Although he has made a lot of tackles in the last few games last year…be it as it may…you can take that part with a grain of salt…

yes, Johnson was a best safety last year, but that’s really not saying much compared to CC, Rouse, etc. Unfortunately for MJohnson this year, it’s the other way around…he’s the worse of the bunch, but I have always believed serviceable enough playing next to a very good cover Safety.

Calhoun, yeah, I somewhat agree – but hearing TC’s explanation made sense, plus, did you see that break away speed…on his TD…and he’s like 6’5" or something…I liked Hagan alot! but did you see that break away speed???

"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck

by 27Tango on Sep 8, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions