For The Giants, A Stunning Weekend
by Ed Valentine on Sep 5, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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Wow! What a stunning couple of days for the New York Giants! Go back to Friday morning, and I don't think anyone on earth could have predicted the moves the Giants would make en route to setting their 53-man regular-season roster.
- Sage Rosenfels in, Rhett Bomar out as backup quarterback.
- Darius Reynaud in, Andre Brown and Gartrell Johnson both out.
- Bear Pascoe stunningly out, Travis Beckum still in.
- Dave Tollefson in, Jay Alford out.
- Victor Cruz and -- shockingly -- Duke Calhoun in, veteran Derek Hagan out.
"We put the roster together in the best interest of our football team, the best way in which we felt would possibly balance off our numbers and still be very much aware of the way in which you would rank the ability level of all the players on the team," Coach Tom Coughlin said. "You'd like to think you're ready to go in the first game and hopefully we won't have to make a subtle adjustment as we go along."
It is brutally obvious that a lot of what the Giants did was geared toward beefing up what has been a woefully inadequate special teams group. Calhoun outperformed Hagan on special teams, Tollefson is more useful on specials than Alford, the trade for Reynaud, keeping players like D.J. Johnson and Chase Blackburn. All geared toward attempting to fix what has been a glaring weakness.
"We certainly had an eye toward who can help us on special teams and there are always thoughts on that when you put your roster together - who's going to perform in what categories. That had a lot to do with our trade for (Reynaud). It's going to be reflected in the added responsibility we put on a lot of people to help us become a stronger special teams outfit than we were in the preseason," Coughlin said. "We kept eight linebackers and a lot of thought went into that - not that they're all going to be active. There's always great attention given to special teams. We were a team coming into training camp that had a lot of work to do and a lot of transitional spots that had to be taken care of. We hope we're moving in that direction."
Coughlin admitted it was difficult to cut Pascoe.
"There was an awful lot of sentiment for Bear, because of what he was able to do," Coughlin said. "There was an entire week in practice when he allowed us to practice. I had to cut some snaps out, he was the guy that kept us going. And when you'd go to him and think he might be a little fatigued, he'd say just the opposite - ‘Bring it on coach, I can do it.' That attitude is a tremendous thing."
For me, the biggest surprises are Pascoe and Andre Brown not making the roster. Coughlin had hinted that perhaps Brown was not yet fully comfortable after Achilles Tendon surgery, but I thought he was a lock for the roster. With Pascoe, no idea what the Giants were thinking, and it's probably the one move I really don't like. What happens if Kevin Boss gets hurt? Beckum is not an every down guy.
Anyway, I'm absolutely flabbergasted by the roster as it currently stands. Most likely, the shuffling is not over yet. Don't be surprised if the Giants make a couple of waiver-wire pickups over the next couple of days.
Offense (24)
Quarterbacks (2): Eli Manning, Sage Rosenfels
Running Backs (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, D.J. Ware, Darius Reynaud
Fullbacks (1): Madison Hedgecock
Wide Receivers (6): Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Hakeem Nicks, Ramses Barden, Victor Cruz, Duke Calhoun
Tight Ends (2): Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum
Offensive Linemen (9): David Diehl, Rich Seubert, Shaun O'Hara, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Will Beatty, Adam Koets, Shawn Andrews, Mitch Petrus
Defense (26)
Defensive Linemen: (9): Justin Tuck, Barry Cofield, Chris Canty, Mathias Kiwanuka, Osi Umenyiora, Rocky Bernard, Dave Tollefson, Jason Pierre-Paul, Linval Joseph Linebackers (8): Jonathan Goff, Michael Boley, Keith Bulluck, Bryan Kehl, Clint Sintim, Chase Blackburn, Phillip Dillard, Gerris Wilkinson
Cornerbacks (5): Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross, Bruce Johnson, D.J. Johnson
Safeties (4): Antrel Rolle, Deon Grant, Kenny Phillips, Michael Johnson
Specialists (3)
Kicker (1): Lawrence Tynes
Punter (1): Matt Dodge
Long Snapper (1): Zak DeOssie
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The Bear Pascoe move is even more surprising...
…given the absolute punishment Boss takes in the pattern. It seems like he is one big hit away from a career-threatening head trauma. Major injuries aside, Boss inevitably will not play a full 16-game season this year from the abuse he takes. Who are we going to turn to then. Beckum?
My guess is Bear catches on with another team. He has demonstrated enough talent and heart to play in this league, and he deserves his chance.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 5, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions
Why?
As much as I though Bear Pascoe was playing well, means very little unless he did something amazing which, he really didn’t. Here are the facts, the Giants drafted Travis Beckum. He may have done a but less than Pascoe this preseason, but the fact is they Giants used a drafpick to get him. They are more likely to work with him and hopefully build him into a good TE. If two guys were on the ropes or questionable as to whether or not they would be cut, I would keep the guy we used a draft pick on also. It just makes sense. I watched Pascoe because so many people talked about him on here. Didn’t do much to make himself stick out that’s for sure. Reese and co. have invested in Beckum because of the draft, that’s why he stayed. Plain and simple.
by Wags24 on Sep 5, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry about the grammer..
good lord, it’s just awful. That’s what I get for an early morning post before my second cup of coffee.
by Wags24 on Sep 5, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Get your Grammer under control, son.
He’s been rummaging through the trash cans again.
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by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Sep 6, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...for the most part...
Pascoe was the talk of camp and impressed many from Albany. I did not get to attend any training camp practices so I kept myself up to speed regarding all things Giants via the “internet”. I was very much looking forward to seeing the phenom, Bear Pascoe, in the preseason games. I understand that he was asked to do a ridiculously large amount of work and he may have been stretched thin but I didn’t see that much of him during game time.
That being said…I would be writing in all caps if it came to light that Reese sent a star packing just to hold onto a player he had invested a larger amount of time, money, or draft picks.
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower."
Keeping the lesser player just because he was a draft pick
Would be a sure sign of a horrid GM that doesn’t deserve a job in this league. I don’t care how the talent got on the team. Who is the better player for the team is the only question that should be answered. I have to believe that Reese must be planning to bring in another TE because Beckum cannot be counted on period.
it's about saving face
teams value draft picks more than FA signings. If a FA signing fails the excuse is the player signed the contract for the money. If a high draft pick is a bust the GM receives all the blame.
Look at Sinorice Moss. The Giants keep him to justify his 2nd round draft pick. Unfortunately, outside the Giants organization, the entire world knows the kid sucks.
That being said keep the best 53 on the roster.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Surprised there's no 2nd TE on the roster
but the Giants are prone to make moves before week one. Dunno how much good that does, they had a guy who knew the playbook and was a seemingly ideal #2 TE on the roster already.
Maybe they know something everyone else doesn’t? Love to see Beckum shut up this ignorance that he’s a bust.
I understand the Alford move. The Andre Brown one too, turf toe is something that nags you all year and after what happened to the RB’s last year..I’d think they’d rather not have someone like that…I guess. Hope he makes it to the PS at least.
For now, I like the Cruz and Calhoun moves….but I doubt Calhoun makes it to next Sunday. DJ Johnson too.
I bet Calhoun and Johnson, maybe even someone like Wilkinson and Koets, are replaced over the next week and as soon as today.
Beaty can play some TE
in blocking situations, so I’m sure thats what they are thinking if he’s not starting. He did it a decent amount last year.
Yea Alford, I was dissapointed about but Tolly is better on ST thats all.
I do like the move for Rosenfelds, he’s an upgrade from Sorgi, he’s played well as a backup in the league most notabley with the Texans in 08.
Yeah
You can put Andrews on the inside for short-yardage and slide one of the OL towards the TE slot. They have a bunch of interesting O-linemen, so a blocking TE isn’t as necessary.
I wonder if they'll put Beatty at one TE spot
Andrews in at guard, and then Petrus at fullback. If Jacobs gets stopped then, Coughlin should go out onto the field and take Jacobs’ helmet and cut him on the spot.
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 5, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Snee, McKenzie, and Andrews (as a blocking TE) on the right side should be able to run on anyone
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Using a lineman as a TE is fine in a goaline play
But come on people, an extra OL does not equal a second TE. You can’t use him for a standard two TE set that you’d use in any situation other than ultra short yardage plays. The second TE has to be an option to run a route and catch a pass even if he isn’t the primary option there.
Exactly how many times in a game does the explicit need for 2 TEs come up?
Some teams want to go 2 TEs and stock their team that way, Giants aren’t one of them.
We have used two TE sets quite a bit
There are several sets that call for two TEs that are used widely throughout the league including by us.
The Giants do go 2 TE a lot
but rarely throw to the 2nd TE.
The best was when they had Mike Matthews, who was basically a 3rd OT anyway.
They can still pass if they have Beatty or someone else at 2nd TE..just he stays in to block.
Actually, it makes Boss more of a receiver if they do that. Motion him out to the slot or something…but then again its Gilbride.
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 5, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Reese has his detractors here....
And I’m not normally one of them, but I still don’t get the continual attempt at forcing a square peg into a round hole with Beckum. As Free’s highlight indicates “there’s no 2nd TE on the roster”. Beckum has talent and I’m not saying his a bust or talentless. What am I saying is he’s an H-Back and not a TE on a team that doesn’t use, nor have a scheme for an H-Back. We seem to always be using two roster spots to justify keeping Beckum around, as he doesn’t block and thus requires carryiing a blocking TE. This would be fine if we used his talents, and if he were healthy and ready to go all the time. But we’ve yet to really show that we have a playset for an H-back and he’s oft injured. Thus, we’re using up a couple of roster spots and haven’t yet gotten any production out of having an H-Back. In this single case, I’m not dumping on Beckum, who may be a fine H-Back, but lamenting the lack of opportunity we’d have of seeing it, and questioning why we drafted someone into a position that we don’t have, and have to cover it with a second position to cover the opening we do have.
I'm not sure we won't be using more H-back plays this year
I watched the giants/pats game again. And Bear started a lot of plays coming from the FB/HB position. He either went in motion out wide, or just released from the backfield at the snap of the ball. Those may be the plays they have in mind for Beckum
Its not the position
its the fact the guy was injured last year.
If Beckum’s healthy, Coughlin said himself they’d get him in the offense. He needs to practice, that’s it.
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 5, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you right...
And that he can stay healhty enough to practice and play.
Let's hope at the end Tom can do the same thing as 2007
by EJAAY on Sep 5, 2010 7:50 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Make it greeeeeeen
"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 5, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that the periodic table on the desk in front of him?
If so, it would answer a few questions I’ve had for a long time.
Bear is dissapointing
This is one of those things I hate about sports. He’s all guts and will be there week in week out but becasue he does not have Beckums potential he does not make the team. I think the plan will be to use Beaty on two TE sets like they did at times last year.
Who the the hell is Calhoun, I must say I’m a bit ignorant in this regard casue I was away on vactaion for all but one of the Giants Preseason games so I did not catch a lot of them or read up on the team a lot, so I’m surprised Hagan was let go he’s a decent Special Teamer and can come in and play WR, not sure after the big three we have a legitamt 4th WR, Beckum, maybe they thing Cruz can contribute this year.
Andre Brown is disspapointing, he ran hard the few times I saw him this summer, not so much on KR, but overall he looked like he could be a player.
"Bear Pascoe stunningly out..."
There is nothing stunning about this decision. He didn’t do anything amazing to keep himself on the team. I think everyone was just sold on his name. He was competing with a guy the Giants drafted. If two guys are borderline, the organization is going to keep the guy they invested in from day one. Plain and simple, cut and dry, can’t say it any better than that. If you say you’re going to keep a questionable guy over a young guy you drafted only a year ago then you’re nuts. Cool names won’t make you a great football player. I’m glad I wasn’t in that war room making the final cuts, but this one doesn’t bother me one bit….none of them do.
by Wags24 on Sep 5, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions
I respectfully disagree
If Bear Pascoe’s name was John Smith I would still be disappointed with this move. He did do something amazing by taking on the work load of 3 TE’s for about a month. Like Coughlin said he allowed them to keep practicing and showed a lot of dedication to the team. On top of that, he has talent. In our system, he fits better than Beckum. He is the blocking TE that we need and while I am not ready to call Beckum a bust, I think he won’t have the opportunity to contribute to the team and make use of himself like Bear did
the problem with the drafted vs. not drafted
is they cut Brown over Danny Ware and also cut Alford instead of Tollefson. And its not like Tolly was a definite, they apparently were trying to trade him yesterday.
I think you got it when saying that Bear didn’t stick out and really prove that he’s worth it over a player with Beckum’s potential. That doesn’t have much to do with the draft.
I agree with your point
and its too early to give up on Beckum but at some point that reasoning that we drafted a guy and have more invested, can also hurt a team if you dont when to cut ties and Beckum is starting to rely too much on his draft position.
Drafting
Barring extraordinary circumstances, I would say that it’s a good idea to give anyone who you drafted in the first three rounds two years on the roster. Football is hard, and it takes some players longer to learn it at the pro level than others. With higher picks, I think it’s worth more time. If Beckham has a bad year, I assume they’ll end the experiment.
You may go for something as artificial as someone's name
But a lot of folks here paid close attention to camp and the preseason and saw a guy in Pascoe that had skills and determination. He has the tools to block and is aggressive at it. Neither of those statement can be made about Beckum. Pascoe also showed respectable route running and catching abilities. Let’s also compare Pascoe as the one tough SOB who played as the only TE for chunks of camp taking all the reps and coming back for more compared to Beckum who always had a booboo and just couldn’t get on the field.
Can someone help me out with this drafted v. undrafted argument?
I understand that it is intuitively pleasing to say “I drafted that guy” after he makes the team and (hopefully) performs a few years in. But in my mind the draft is a means to an end, not the end itself. As a fan I’m more impressed with undrafted guys from unknown schools who are discovered via whatever means and brought into the fold, but that may just be me. Without touching on the relative merits of Pascoe and Beckum, I simply don’t see how the fact that a team used a draft pick on someone makes them more (or less) valuable than someone else. Once a draft pick is used, it is essentially valueless in my mind, with the only continuing value being in the player drafted and his actual NFL (not college, not combine) potential. The argument that a team drafted someone and should keep him around for that reason seems like someone keeping around a girlfriend he no longer likes because he bought her a really expensive Christmas present last year. What am I missing?
Foolish pride
It’s simply pride as far as I can tell. Sometimes these GMs just don’t want to admit they botched it so they cling onto the guy Hopi he can turn into something. Nobody is going to think bad of you for the UDFA that didn’t turn out to be a stud because there are lower expectations there. It seems to be part of Reese’s MO to cling on draft picks.
In comparison the Bengals drafted Chase Coffman in 09 in the third round (the same year and round we got Beckum). Coffman was a better TE than Beckum in college. Beckum was a Mackey (award for best TE in college football) and Coffman was the winner. Both Coffman and Beckum had the same issue coming into the NFL, they were pass catchers that had no real blocking experience. Beckum saw very limited action last year and Coffman saw none and ended up on IR with an ankle injury. This year we’ve seen nothing out of Beckum but found we had some other guys on the team that could play TE. What do we do? We keep Beckum. The Bengals also had some other TE talent this year so they waived Coffman and signed him to the practice squad.
Correction
That should say Beckum was a Mackey semi finalist. Deleted it by accident when I went back to add what the Mackey award is.
I'm torn on this 53 man roster
I’m really disappointed in some of the cuts they made like Bear. But like FB said, they must have something up their sleeve. They must know about some guys that they expect to hit the waiver wire. Some guys, I’m pretty certain won’t be with the team in a few weeks, namely DJ Johnson. I think he’s just insurance for Ross. once Ross gets healthy or another DB pops up, he’ll be gone. But remember, Reese has probably gotten calls from teams about trading for certain players. He may have turn down the trade, hoping that those players will just get cut and he can get them for free. (by free I mean with out giving up draft picks)
If that is Reese's plan. then I am all for it.
I think Resse has already given up too many picks already. Sage and Reynaud haven’t played their first game for the Gints yet so we don’t know how these moves have worked out yet. Bomar was a surprise but not a big one. As I stated I before, his difficulty getting the ball in the end zone against the Patriots is what I think did him in. I am surprised that Calhoun was chosen over Hagan. I thought that Hagan was a better player. Really didn’t see that one coming. Glad to see V. Cruz will be with us. I think this decision will pay off big dividends later (or even early) in the season. This guy is much too good to keep on the sideline for an extended period of time. Glad to see Koets still with us as well.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 5, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
and I think people are a little too worried about Bomar. I don’t think Bomar did anything to make other teams overlook guys like leinart and ramsey, or even qbs currently on their roster. So, i believe he’ll pass through waivers. RBs are a dime a dozen as i’ve said before, so Brown will probably get through as well. And maybe Pascoe gets through too. Just because we love our players, doesn’t mean other teams do.
Agreed. Now tell me....
Are you surprised that DJ Ware is still with us?
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 5, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
I felt like AB2 is currently as good as Ware, with more upside. The only thing I can think of is, AB2 refused to commit to ST. (too many abbrev?)
As long as you spell them out the first time you use them with me, I am okay with it.
I was surprised myself. But I am happy. It is hard to argue with many fans in favor of Ware because he hasn’t played much and when he, while he is productive, he has been prone to making big runs consistently. Overall, I think that he is a keeper though and I am glad he is still with the team. I hope to see him more so he can prove me right.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 5, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
"This guy is much too good to keep on the sideline for an extended period of time"
Please notify Gilbride!!!
(…repeat as needed)
I am shocked that they let Bear, GJ, and Brown go..Hagan was also a surprise as was Bomar..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Let us all wait.
As Ed Valentine said, there will probably be one or two more moves to be made before all is said and done.
There may be another tight end out there whom the Giants “have heard” might be waived and they may feel this end fits their schemes better than Bear. It may also be that the Giants, respecting Bear, gave him an “early” out to see if he does get picked up. If he does not, then they will get him again.
Not too many NFL teams go into a season these days with just 2 tight ends, and Beckhum was supposed to be an ‘H’ back anyway.
There’s something else afoot here.
By indicating when they waived Brown that he was injured, they have warned any other team to stay away, so I’ll bet he stays with the team (unless another team is really desperate).
And they still need another cornerback, so there will be at least one or two changes to this roster.
We all must be patient.
A sound argument.
There may be another tight end out there whom the Giants "have heard" might be waived and they may feel this end fits their schemes better than Bear. It may also be that the Giants, respecting Bear, gave him an "early" out to see if he does get picked up. If he does not, then they will get him again
My thoughts exactly, the move kinda made the sense that you laid out. I will monitor this move and where Bear turns up.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 5, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
GJ was slow Sage is a huge upgrade, love the return guy. Hagans is a surprise, Brown is a surprise. I see a TE, and a CB being picked up on waivers?
GJ is more like a fullback.that is why I was surprised
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
good with everything except
Sage. This guy is not anymore effective than Bomar, and I say that meaning Bomar right now.
This was a panic move and one that was not necessary… I would personally have liked to see us develop Rhett over the course of this season and had that backup thing locked up for a few years.
+1
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 5, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the Giants are going to make that many changes
and if they do pick up a player off waivers it won’t be TE. What killed Hagan was special teams, he didn’t make plays and no matter how good a receiver he is, Hagan was never going to play WR. Pascoe had to be incredible to make the team ahead of Travis Beckum and not having a blocking tight end is lessened by the presence of Oline depth and versatility. AB2 is always hurt and not as good at returning kicks as Reynaud.
I don’t see where the Giants make a major claim today other than maybe grabbing a CB.
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
If they make any moves..I't'll be geared towards special teams
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Just repeating what Ed wrote, very surprised Hagen, Alford, Brown, and Pascoe were cut. They must have another TE they’re looking to bring in. Even if Beckum was healthy, he is not a true TE, more of a big wide receiver. I hadn’t heard anything about Calhoun until he caught that pass toward the end of the last preseason game.
blocking TE
Check Petrus bio and I think you’ll find he began his career as a fullback, so I believe he is an option as a blocking TE (gives the threat that he can catch a pass). However, I doubt he’ll be active that often. The player who intrigues me and WILL be active is Dave Tollefson. Tolly continues to show good athleticism on ST, and using him as an extra TE may mean that JPP can be active on Sundays.
Can't believe we need to be 3-deep for each position roster-wise at LB ...
so I would not be surprised if either Kehl, Wilkinson or Blackburn are gone after further moves (esp. since you usually go 2 LB’s on long-yardage after 1st down).
If I were Koets, D.J. Johnson or Calhoun, I would rent, not buy, in the NJ area.
The only thing I'm mad about
is Pascoe. Hope the guy JR is going to get to replace him has half as cool a name.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
at least we still have
Duke Calhoun, pretty bad-name in my book, even though my all time favorite was Adrian Awesome.
Yeah gonna missthat name.'Bear'
Guess we’ll have to nickname Calhoun…“Camel-Hump Calhoun”
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Quantity over quality at LB
Can’t figure out who sucks more so we just keep them all. Sorry ultra negative I know but really that is way too many LBs. Somethings gotta give there with other spots too thin.
I'm not surprised at all
we carried a whole gang of LBs last year. Not to mention Wilkinson has been knows to end seasons on IR. You need the bodies for Special Teams. I’m not saying that I totally agree with it, but I understand it, and I predicted that they all would stay.
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
Not to mention how we seem to get depleted at LB every year
But yeah, some of these guys hold much more ST value then they do at LB.
We won't be able to activate them all
So we won’t have the bodies for ST. Keeping a slew as insurance against injury also doesn’t sit well with me. Any position can get injured. Are we going 3-4 deep at every spot? If we are planning to blow through that many LBs to injury Reese needs to do a better job of finding more durable players.In the end I think someone out of that group goes to make room for a trade or waiver wire pickup.
Well..your right..
I’ve never seen a Giants team without stand-out LBs,ever..The experiments must end by next Sunday..They need to field a group they can count on to consistently kick some ass and take some names..that is what LBs do..Especially Giant LBs..They have always played smash-mouth football..When in doubt they would just hit somebody..We don’t have that anymore.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
quantity
is right. I think they’re worried about health more than anything. Wilkinson always seems to get hurt, Dillard is hurt, Blackburn has the knee issue so he won’t be 100% and will Bullock get through with his surgically repaired knee?
I'm sorry to see Bear go
I’m terrified of the thought of Boss getting injured and us having to trot Beckum (assuming he miraculously manages to stay healthy) out there as an every down tight end. From what I understand he’s not much of a blocker.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 5, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
Beckum sucks
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
cuts
Thankfully both Bear and Bomar passed waivers and are on the Giants practice squad. Bomar is a promising young QB and Pascoe looks like he could start, I’m surprised he passed waivers. I’m sure he’ll make the team next year. Again my ignorance prompts a question-can you activate a practice squad player during the season if you need them?
Well, to be fair, the Special Teams do look pretty bad
As they looked in preseason, I think it’s fair to say that the return and coverage teams could certainly cost the Giants a game or two. I guess if that means that certain decent players had to be cut to make room for better special teams players, then so be it.
I’ll miss Brown, though. Hopefully he has a chance to play in Denver. (One would think that he will, once he gets healthy.)
BTW, I sure as hell hope Eli doesn’t get dinged up, because I can’t imagine how long it’s going to take for a new QB to learn enough of the offense to actually be useful.
If they go to a backup QB
the playbook gets dumbed down anyways. They wouldn’t expect Sage to run the full offense that Eli does. It’d be trimeed down and tailored to having him manage the game and get us through without hurting us.
Actually pretty pleased
Hey…I thought they made all the right moves. I am sticking my neck out here but I’ll go on the record right now and say that not will Cruz be a player but so will Calhoun. Before he made his TD catch and run I felt that he was a player. Just something about his athleticism and the way he carried himself. Even with that I felt that I was just hoping the Giants would see it too but in reality figured he’d be gone. Glad they saw what I saw. Stay tuned. A. Brown picked up by Broncs. Aw shit! That one figured. Good luck to him. Anyone else that mattered back w/practice squad. Best to J. Alford…..provided a great SB 42 memory.
cuts
Both Bomar and Pascoe made it to the practice squad. Dream formation with the G-men around the 5 yd line Wideouts-Barden(6’6") and Calhoun(6’4")-slot receiver Nicks, Hedgecock and Jacobs in the backfield, I think there is noway we don’t score.
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