Tiki Talks More About Tom

by Ed Valentine on Sep 30, 2010 11:11 AM EDT in New York Giants News

I know some of you guys are going to get ticked off simply by the topic. I always cringe at the mention of his name. But, Tiki Barber spoke this morning about being added to the Giants Ring Of Honor and, of course, more about Tom Coughlin.

Paul Schwartz just posted a fascinating series of tweets listing Barber's comments. They are after the jump. Try not to get all annoyed just by the mention of Tiki's name. I have my issues with much of what Tiki has said and done in the past, but this is a Tiki who seems much more conciliatory toward Coughlin than in the past.

Tiki on his harsh words about Giants: "It's part of being someone who is very honest.'' Said he's "never meaning to be controversial.''
Tiki on Coughlin: "Tom is a great coach, we all know that.'' Says TC has to rely on leaders to convey his message.
Tiki on Giants: "I think they're very talented. They're not losing for lack of talent.'' Blames execution.
Tiki on Coughlin at a crisis point: "He's at a crisis because the perception is he's lost the team.'' In NY "perception becomes reality.''
Tiki says past problems with TC was all based on "how you treat people.'' Says "biggest evolution is how he's respected his players.''

Take them for what they are worth. Thing is, for as often as I have ripped Tiki the past couple of seasons, I can't disagree with much of what he said here. Now, let's just see how much he gets booed Sunday night.

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Ed...

i was just taking Tiki to Task in the FanPost….after defending the guy all week.

it’s just sad that some member of the media chose to release some comments but not others….i was really disappointed w/ these recent comments but looking at the ones you have provided they really are not that bad.

IMO though, tiki should just keep quiet…at least until after this weekend.

"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman

by andiamo708 on Sep 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions

Agreed, somewhat

Tiki really needs to stop talking about Coughlin. It doesn’t help anybody, really.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 30, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

AGREED...

It’s time for Glass House Barber to STFU and GO AWAY.
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Forget about the LHP, BKLYN, Queens or Hamilton... Wang is moving the Islanders to The Nassau University Medical Center.

by JPinVA on Sep 30, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Glass House Barber...GHB

I knew he had a tendency to drop the football but he has to stop dropping drugs in drinks at the club.

"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)

by nywins42 on Oct 1, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions

probelem with one comment

(problems with TC was all based on "how you treat people.‘’ Says "biggest evolution is how he’s respected his players.’’)
I guess fixing his fumble problem was a sign of disrespect? I could also make a comment about his personal life in regard to respect but lets just stay with the topic of football.
Other then that he makes good points.

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 30, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions

That bald, has-been, prick

is just looking for attention. he hasnt been relevent for years, unless you count getting his dirty laundry aired out. nobody goes to yahoo.com for sports

nobody makes me bleed my own blood! - Eli Manning

by TheWenz on Sep 30, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions

He is relevant...

Relevant in the “Don’t end up like this jackass” workshop during the rookie symposium.

"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)

by nywins42 on Oct 1, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Interesting...

“It’s part of being someone who is very honest.’’

I may be mistaken but Tiki and honesty aren’t the best of friends. I think the statement should have been as follows…

“It’s part of being someone who is very DELUSIONAL…”

"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)

by nywins42 on Sep 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions

yup

cause honest people have affairs with their wives, and leave them when they’re pregnant.

by Flynner on Sep 30, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

right...

I didn’t care much for him after his post-retirement chatter and the “leaving his pregnant wife” just validated my disgust.

"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)

by nywins42 on Sep 30, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah yes, Tiki quotes

I don’t give a [bleep] that the relationship didn’t work," he said of his parents’ split in a 2004 Post interview. "Not only did he abandon her, I felt like he abandoned us for a lot of our lives. I have a hard time forgiving that.

by TonyManero on Sep 30, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions

ZING

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Sep 30, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

It’s that statement that proves Tiki’s narcissism. I’m sure he made is mother proud when he dropped that bomb on her.

"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)

by nywins42 on Sep 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Without TC teaching him how to hold the ball,

the only ring Tiki goes near is the toilet. This is how Mr. Honesty treats the guy who made him into a player. Without TC Tiki would just be another Sinorice Moss. A talented guy who never got his shit together. He shouldn’t be in the Ring of Honor, as biting the hand that fed you is about as dishonorable as it gets in this situation.

by Matt V on Sep 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions

I wish TC would teach Bradshaw hpw to hold the ball.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 30, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

i'm sure it's been explained to him.

it’s up to the player to execute.

by Matt V on Sep 30, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions

+1000

by Late for Dinner on Sep 30, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

As much as I dislike the Tiki hate, I have accepted it.

Can’t be loved by everyone. I am sure that Tiki has realized this as well. I give him a lot of credit for mantaining his composure and not lashing out at the haters and understanding that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Now, while we are entitled to our own opinions, we wre not entitled to our own facts and the fact is Tiki will be i the ring of honor for his contriutions to the Giant fant base during his time as a player.

I know how the media likes to twist words to make a person appear to be something that they are not and I am sure that this is the case with Tiki. NY wanted Tiki to comebac for one more year and Tiki said no. This triggered resentment from the media, organization, and fan based and the hate has been poppin ever since. I still appreciate the guy though.for his skill, ability, honesty, etc. and look forward to seeing him in the ring of honor.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Lo Tiki brought the hate on himself... he was very popular when he retired

Fact is Tiki didn’t hold his composure, that’s why everyone hates the guy now. Tiki get’s in a contract squable with Management, after he realizes the Giants are not going to pay him a penny more he takes his ball home and retires for a TV career, than tries to jump start his TV career by dumping on his QB & Coach (who happened to be the guy who helped take Tiki’s career to another level), Low and behold the QB that he dumped on leads the Giants to a SB Win, Tiki sucks on TV and he looks like a Giant Jack Ass.
Flash forward another couple of years, his TV career is swirling around the bowl and Tiki decides to have an affair on his pregnant wife with a College kid, than he leaves his wife before his twins are even born. Now not just Giant Fans think he is an idiot most of America does.

I’ll never forget what he did in the Blue & White uniform, however after letting some time go by I realized that he was a self serving Locker room cancer and was holding the team back, despite his personal numbers we never won anything while he was here.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 30, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Yuppy

You said it all. He was good on the field but a double secret jerk everywhere else.

Tom Quinn Must Go

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I agree with most of everything that you have said LFD.

And I won’t make a fool of myself triny to defend Tiki’s actions in trying to jumpstart his broadcasting career. Yeah, he dump on TC, EM, MS, and others but the ultimate embarassment for Tiki is the SB they won that next year. That will follow him for the rest of his life.

However, the issue with his wife leaves a lot to be desired. We have been hit with the effect of that issue (i.e. Tiki leaving his wife) we failed to consider what the case of the rift is. We don’t the cause though. Could be Tiki, could be his wife. One thing I know is that the guy dosen’t get the benefit of the doubt all to often so I wonMt condem Tiki based on what I don’t know about that particular situation.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 30, 2010 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

you said it all

is right

by bgn1987 on Sep 30, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Last time Tiki opened his mouth about the Giants...

they went on to win the SB. OK, maybe not time to book my flight but definitely time to get a bet in on long odds

too many pucks to da head

by StubsNY on Sep 30, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions

Doubt he is that smart

but maybe that was his plan…….NAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by SNORKIS on Oct 1, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Tiki is a tool

Move on. I couldn’t care less about this goof

I want more JPP and I want it now!

by Blender on Sep 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions

Tiki Barber and The Ring of Honor is an oxymoron

just like the phrase “Happily Married”!!!

When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide..."

by NY17NE14 on Sep 30, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

And Giants Special Teams

should be Giants Special Bus

by SNORKIS on Oct 1, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Looks like I'm the only Giants fan who has no problem with Tiki

Apparently not the greatest guy in real life, like a lot of pro athletes. I think his post-Giants comments have largely been overblown. Best running back by far the team has had in the last 50 years, and maybe in team history. Understandable that others would have different opinions of course.

by hankwebb on Sep 30, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions

No you're not.

I still like Tiki. He was a warrior on the field. I could care less about anything negative that he has to say about a coach who won’t be with the Giants next year.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 30, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions

who probably wont't be with the Giants next year.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 30, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice save

"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss

by GhostDini on Sep 30, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope....

as player, you have to respect and admire.
We just place our ‘heroes’ on pedestals and expect more.
It is not a correct assumption but that’s what we do.

I will always remember the way he played.
Just like OJ(Simpson), Roethlisberger, Vick, etc.

We are watching athletes and must recognize that they are flawed. Some are flawed more than others and of course, the microscope will reveal the tiniest.

by SNORKIS on Oct 1, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions

There are a lot of Giant fans who still have some love for Tiki

After reading Strahan’s book, I understand that the business side of football soured Tiki on playing for the Giants. He was having a ton of success on the field but the Giants did not want to pay him more money becuuase he was an over 30 running back, Tiki decided to save his body and start earning his money by using his head, I have no problem with that and I no longer boo him. However Giant fans are loyal and once you turn your back on the Giants you can’t come home again.

Tiki needs to drop the arogance and start mending fences if he wants to get some more of the fans to appreciate his tenure here. In all my years I have never seen a person empty a reservoir of good will faster than Tiki Barber.

by Late for Dinner on Oct 1, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions

I respect Tiki for what he was

a great RB.

As for his comments, I take none of them seriously (well…less seriously then I take many other “analysts” words, which is less then nothing).

The Giants won a Super Bowl the year after he retired. A year in which it was obvious that Tiki was getting better, not worse.

He got the proverbial “foot in his ass” after he retired. The Giants stomped out Tom Brady, but also Tiki for his comments.

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 1, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

what is funny and fitting

Is that he continues to self destruct repeatedly. He had it all and continues to pull pins out of grenades and put them in his skivies. Maybe too many helmet to helmet hits.

Tom Quinn Must Go

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 30, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

It really is pretty comical when you look at it

It’s like he must wake in the morning and ask “What could I say or do today
that would make people dislike me even more than they already do…hmmm???”

When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide..."

by NY17NE14 on Sep 30, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm starting to wonder if he wants the boo birds to come out on Sunday Night

either way he just won’t let go of this grudge.

remember when we played TB in ’07 and Ronde tried to stick up for Tiki and talked smack about Eli before the game?

and than remember when Eli pump faked Ronde outta his cleats and threw the TD pass to Toomer?

LOL…thanks for the motivation Ronde aka Tiki’s puppet

"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman

by andiamo708 on Sep 30, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

HAHAH

good call on Ronde in that plaoff game. Plaxico was abusing him around like a rag doll too, not al harris style, but pretty bad.

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 30, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Personallly, I think the opposite of love isn't hate...

but indifference. Rather than booing Tiki in mass (and certainly better than cheering for him), I think everyone should just fail to react to him entirely. Nothing deserves nothing, and rather than giving him delight in his ability to stir everyone up, silence would drive him nuts. Sorry, I guess in his case, it might not be a drive, but a short putt.

by Cranky50 on Sep 30, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions

You are correct....

I was going to cheer but with these latest comments I think totally ignoring him would be even better.

like I said above…. I think he wants to get booed for some crazy reason…..

"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman

by andiamo708 on Sep 30, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions

My theory

He knew he was going to get booed for being a classless lying chump. So he threw this stuff on the wall so he could blame the statements and not the character of the man. Just go away Tiki.

by ronjohnson on Sep 30, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

what would be great

is if he got intoduced to dead silence…. no cheers, no boos… just indifference

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 30, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Cranky already said it

did not see it before but its a great idea

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 30, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I was thinking

His wife should have named the kids Tom and Coughlin just to annoy him.

I clearly have too much time on my hands right now.

Tom Quinn Must Go

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 30, 2010 6:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

LOL

Or at least give them the initials TC and SB.

by ronjohnson on Sep 30, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions

And a third one NR

for No Ring. Hey Tiki congratulations on the ring of honor. The only ring you got with the Giants. But you could have had a real one. Could have had a Super Bowl ring if you had learned to get along with Caughlin. All those years, all those hits, and no ring. Your own damn fault. And guess what. No Hall of Fame. Nice stats though.
Can’t take anything you say about TC at face value. It all comes down to ring envy.

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 30, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Awesomely accurate comment Spidey

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Oct 1, 2010 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions

lol

Tom and Eli

"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman

by andiamo708 on Sep 30, 2010 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I wonder what 'conciliatory' bullshit he fed his wife..

Pregnant with twins..“Oh baby..she’s just a friend”..Tiki Barber is the ultimate bullshit artist..He became a great runner after Couglin arrived and coached him on how to not ‘cough’ up the ball..I’ll take Ron Johnson over that pajama commercial quack anytime…and somebody here hit the nail on the head…He doesn’t want to get booed Sunday night..period..He wants to be cheered..so he doesn’t lose his Yahoo job..He has alimony and child support to pay..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Oct 1, 2010 3:55 AM EDT reply actions

Keep in mind

that since it’s almost always about him, him, him, why would he not seem more prone to reconciliation after he found out he was added to the Giants Ring Of Honor?
He’s happy. Part of it is about him. And 2+2 = 4.

Yay for him.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Oct 1, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions