Breaking News: Giants Acquire Sage Rosenfels
by Ed Valentine on Sep 3, 2010 10:04 PM EDT
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sage is ok I guess
but I really love that they may have a kick returner
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Reynaud seems exciting to me
Got excited when I saw that name. Great trade.
Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."
Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."
by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 3, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hells yeah
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
The return man will likely be the most important acquisition. Unless Eli goes down, and we can’t contemplate that disaster!
Ignore my mis-post above, I’m pretty tired tonight. LOL
Did not expect this
But I like
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
WOW
I like it.I was one who would have been ok with Rhett in the backup role butt………Sage has proven to be a good backup qb everytime he has been given the chance to play in a real game.Also it was obvious that we needed a return man and now we have one.So another solid trade by Jerry Reese.
biggest beef with Sage
he may be a vet QB but he still makes dumb mistakes…. case in point…. 2008 Texans vs Colts.
“Rosenfels started in the Texans’ home opener against the Indianapolis Colts. Although Rosenfels had led the team to a 27–10 lead with 8:18 remaining, Indianapolis scored a touchdown to make the score 27–17 with 4:04 left. In that span, Rosenfels turned the ball over three times: the first two turnovers, both fumbles, both led to Indianapolis touchdowns, putting the Colts ahead 31–27; the third, an interception, sealed the Texans loss. Rosenfels was helicoptered in midair after getting hit by three Indianapolis defenders, causing him to fumble the ball.”
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ROSENCOPTER!!!
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
That's what my post links to
there the exact same video, lol
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
that is a great one
but this one kills me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHA
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
No problem
Now people know. I think everyone should watch it twice minimum, imo.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
great video
Matt Schaub did not looked to pleased….
WORST JOHN ELWAY IMPRESSION EVER!
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that music
Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."
Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."
by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 3, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sam Spence
is a God among men
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
+1000000
NFL Films music is the greatest. Is has his epic, story telling sound to it.
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 4, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the same exact thing I thought when I found out.
Although the rumor I hear is that he cracks the top 10 players off all time (around his neighborhood)
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower."
Yes, he made a dumb mistake..
But I watched that game and he played a great game in spite of the goof. Indy got lucky because Sage ripped them for most of the game. He learned a lot that day that Bomar has yet to learn.
by giant fan since 57 on Sep 4, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I might be the only guy who doesn't look down on him for that play
The guy was trying to make a play and get the first down. I can’t knock him for that. Might have been ill advised, but ya gotta try. If he doesn’t fumble, he’s a hero. Really did take a lick though. And that’s a funny ass video.
Reynaud
For me, this guy is the really exciting part of the deal. The return guy was a desperate need, and I never expected a move like this.
+1
Reynaud can handle those duties and he’s fast too. Speed on Specials!! Always a great thing!
lets just hope ST can make some blocks and give him a chance
by LT's Will Power on Sep 3, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
he might need that
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 JR = impressive move more with Reynaud than Sage
Sage was I guess to be somewhat expected…
Reynaud (even though everyone knew we needed a returner) was the big surprise from the deal
Me likey… :)
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
We really needed a KR
ST was killing us. Rosenfels is a good get if Eli goes down for 1 or 2 games. Hope we keep Bomar. In JR we trust
by Giants56 on Sep 3, 2010 10:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Love love love Reynaud and Rosenfels is a better option than Leinart
Now does this mean Gartrell Johnson is gone?
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
Reynaud is AB sized
so he is no workhorse but as a fourth RB…yeah. His real value is KR and PR as long as the Giants can get him some room to operate
Sage is solid – no more no less.
Both for a fifth and a conditional – two key needs met with one trade. JR has done it again!
Regretably this means Bomar is gone. I do not expect him to pass through waivers.
why can't they carry 3 qbs?
They’ve done it before…and they easily make room by getting rid of 2 RBs
Most teams do carry 3 QBs but
Giants do not seem to with Manning being so durable.
I would be fine with that. I think Bomar has potential however I think Sage is signed for another season or two.
From the way Eli and Gilbride were spending time with him on Thursday...
Bomar sure looked like someone they were taking seriously. The only thing that really hurts him is that he didn’t get into the kick return rotation in time.
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 4, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say that
this is not an indictment on Bomar (I think they will keep), just getting an experienced QB who also started games in this league..Personally, don’t know much about Reynaud, other than KR/PR myself, has to be an improvement on what they currently have I am guessing?
So basically, they killed two birds with one stone, so to speak.
"Unless your drink is expecting rain, you should probably reconsider.
STAY THIRSTY my friends".
by Great Gatsby on Sep 3, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Reynaud
Can return both punts and kick offs based on his time with the Vikings. He had two punt returns called back on penalties last year.
Rosenfels is a great game manager with abarely adequate arm, according the the Viking faithful at their SB Nation forum. But as such, he’s a perfect back up in the NFL.
I wonder what happens with Bomar. Stashing him on the roster wastes a needed spot and we’ll be using one for Reynaud as a return specialist. So I think Bomar gets exposed and hopefully makes it onto the practice squad again this year.
I really think we go 3 QB now...it's hard to gamble losing Bomar
we need a quality backup we can nurse and he looks like that piece…
I would rather 2 QB, but I won’t complain with 3 – only means we lose another on the 53 man roster…it’s pretty hard as it is now…I’m thinking we luck out with Beckum going to IR (like Ed is speculating)
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Not the proper forum for this but.....
Oskar Blues makes great beer. Having Gubna tonight which is a double IPA and it’s the best beer ever.
by Giants56 on Sep 3, 2010 10:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you probably like dogfish head haha
by GiantsReignSupreme on Sep 3, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
Their 90 minute IPA is the bomb. Also the Palo Santo Maron. Assuming your a fan too?
by Giants56 on Sep 3, 2010 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yessir
i agree on the 90 minute IPA, one of my faves
by GiantsReignSupreme on Sep 4, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Going to a brewfest tomorrow.
In Ithaca. Gonna be a good time for all. Gotta love the IPA’s
Go Big Blue!
If going to an Ithaca brewfest make sure to try
Ithaca Brewery “Flower Power”. If there can be a beer with too much hops….which I guess there can’t.
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 4, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I've had it.
Really enjoy the flower power, but they had beers even better there. Ithaca had one there that is made really fresh and they won’t bottle it only sell it from fresh kegs. To say it was tasty… well… words cannot describe. It was called Outdoor ale or something like that. Many many hop-filled beers, I could go on but this site is about football…
Go Big Blue!
sounds delicious...gotta have to try it
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Can't do it
I’m def a beer guy, and I normally drink the odd beers no one’s heard of, but I just can’t get a feel for the IPAs, after numerous tries.
I don't agree 100%
Maybe it forces them to cut Gartrell now. I think Ware has made the team, based on TC’s comments today.
Yeah I agree
with you, I think Johnson is gone, but the DJ Ware era lives on. BTW, Ron Johnson was one of my favs with Tark in the 70’s.
"Unless your drink is expecting rain, you should probably reconsider.
STAY THIRSTY my friends".
by Great Gatsby on Sep 3, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
wasn’t coughlin’s comments that ware would be returning kicks? if they just traded for a kick returner, why do you think coughlin’s comments mean he’s safe?
He mentioned
Ware by name when discussing his little talk with Jacobs, so sounds like he is a keeper.
"Unless your drink is expecting rain, you should probably reconsider.
STAY THIRSTY my friends".
by Great Gatsby on Sep 3, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Specifically
He said he’s looking forward to pairing the power back (Jabobs) with AB and Ware. Simply putting Ware in the same sentence with our two top backs makes it appear TC has plans to use Ware if healthy this year.
i'm for keeping Gartrell
and dropping Ware. But I guess TC as head coach knows more then me, an idiot fan who screams at his TV during Giant games… but its still up for debate.
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Heartily Agree
Gartrell has the makings of someone who can pick up the 3rd down blitz, and be a north south runner with no juking or trying to hit the big one on the outside, and contribute on special teams. But I bet they think that they can sneak him onto the practice roster. San Diego thought that already last year when he was fresher in everyone’s mind after being a 4th round pick. I think he sneaks through waivers. And maybe back on the team by mid-season. I am thinking that he is invisible to the rest of the league.
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 4, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
unless SD has been keeping their eyes on him...
keep our fingers crossed
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
I'm with you guys
I think Gartrell has a lot of potential in the right situation. He just needs more opportunities.
Viking fans don't seem to pleased
about giving up Reynauld.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Damn, Reynauds Wikipedia page is already updated!
I just watched some quick youtube highlights of him, and he seems like an upgrade of what we have on our team already. good move by Jay Arrah(i trust)!
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Bomar stays.
I know the Giants have only carried 2 qb’s the past couple of years but I dont see the Giants cutting him.They know at this point he will not pass through waivers and even if he does qb’s get hurt throughout the yr.So he would probably end up getting picked up by one of those teams.Also yea def one of those backs will be gone or maybe both but doubt it.Got to remember there is two spots on this team that were not there last year.Hixon and Moss on IR so there is more room.Renauds would be this years Hixon.Used for a returner and very little on offense.Wont shock me to see Ware traded somewhere like Ryan Grant was.
I'm guessing Sorgi isn't a giant anymore?
Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."
Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."
by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 3, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
IRed
Doesn’t count to the roster
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Not sure about that
I thought that last week as well. But he hasn’t been lights out and he’s still very green. A team would have to waste a spot stashing him on their roster till he picked up their offense and got comfortable. That s a luxury few teams can afford with limited roster spots available as teams struggle to cut down to 53.
Sogi is on IR
Sorgi was placed on IR and was only signed to a one yr deal in the first place.So yea he still is this yr but will not be next year.
New York Giants
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
wow
thats strange that Jesse Palmer was the next QB taken
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Stranger still
Palmer’s Wiki page says he still lives in the same building in Hoboken as Eli and Corzine. He must have made some wise investments!!
proberly
sleeps on Eli’s fold-a-way bed
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it how they're using the same photo of Eisen
from 1993.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
Off topic but.....
Watching NFL top 100 and strahan checks in at 99th best ever.
by Giants56 on Sep 3, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
not bad... for all time players
i heard your namesake is in the top 5
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Folks know I'm not the biggest Reese fan
But I’m liking this move. We had no return man and I was uncomfortable with Bomar as the backup. Two birds, one stone. Good job on this one Reese.
You're not a fan of Reese?
That’s quite the understatement.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
Not that Vacchiano is an all knowing sage, but he says he thinks the Giants are going to carry three QBs
http://twitter.com/TheBlueScreen
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
If the Giants think Bomar
can develop into a back up/potential successor to Eli, I think they’ll try to find a way to keep him. If not, they’ll draft another developmental guy next year. I kind of hate using picks for that slot every year or two.
Everybody talks about Eli’s durability, but that’s mostly just luck. And past history doesn’t mean he’s not going to suffer a serious injury sometime in the future. Quarterbacks become less durable as they get older, so it’s a bit of a gamble to assume he’s going to be able to go out there every single week this year and next year.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 4, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
Successor to Eli?
Eli is only 29, he has at least 5 more years left in his career and after those 5 yrs Bomar will be 30. The Giants will wait at least 3 more years before they start thinking about choosing a successor.
I think they keep him
Bomar has progressed a lot, for granted he’s not quite there yet, but he’s closer than we think…I can’t see the Giants letting him go and wasting another pick for a developmental QB that they’ll have to wait another 2-3 years to see if he progresses/or pans out. 1 more year (this time in full dress or inactive on the team) and Bomar will be better for it come next year. Esp. since GIants haven’t had any such luck picking up a developmental QB in the past 5 years.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
These Vikings fans are wishing bad on Eli Manning.
Karma is a b…. you know what, I can’t wait to see what happens to their QB.
it was prob for Reynaud
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Happy to be back stateside fellas and posting
That said my shipmate is a huge Vikings fan. So we talked alot of Giants/Vikings football this past month. He had high praise for the KR, and was sad to lose him, but both him and Sage were guys that were expendable for the Vikings and both certainly bolster thr Gmen. So that leaves 51 spots left as I’m assuming both of these guys will make the final roster come the 4th.
by wangstu13 on Sep 4, 2010 1:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Seems to me the Vikings are exposing themselves by getting rid of Sage.
Favre could easily go down in game one and never come back. That leaves Tavaris, who has already proven he can’t take the team anywhere, as their only QB.
As for Bomar I deidn’t realize he is already 25 years old. I agree with those who think Bomar is too old to groom as Eli’s successor. In the next three or four years a better option will arise.
by giant fan since 57 on Sep 4, 2010 6:13 AM EDT reply actions
I like the trade a far as getting Reynaud..Great for the return game..
But Sage is no better than Bomar..He’s brain-dead under pressure.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
he'll also be brain dead when he sees Gilbride's offense
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Sage is an NFL game proven quarterback.
Sure he blew it at the end of the Indy game but he did put them in a 27 to 10 situation half way through the 4th quarter.. I’m sure he has learned from that. He is light years ahead of Bomar because he has already had success against NFL quality defenses in the regular season.
Bomar has a strong arm but that side arm tendency will probably never be corrected so (as seen in his preseason throws) many of his passes will be blocked. There was never a chance that Bomar would be our #2 quarterback based simply on his pre-season play. Coughlin would never have done that.
by giant fan since 57 on Sep 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
Gives us our best chance to Hostetler
… should something happen to Eli, knock on wood.
You play to win the game!
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