Are You Ready For The Pregame Salute?
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintHow will you feel when, right before kickoff, New York Giants and Carolina Panthers players walk onto the field and salute each other in a solidarity gesture in reference to the collective bargaining process?
You know they will. In fact, you can be pretty certain that every team in the league will follow the lead of the Minnesota Vikings and New Orleans Saints, who made the gesture during Thursday's NFL kickoff game.
Giants players questioned about it were fully supportive of the move made by the Viking and Saints.
Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka said if fans could see the players' positions they might be able to have an actual influence on the process.
"They probably have a bigger voice than they understand that they do," Kiwanuka said. "So if the fans are against the lockout and come out and support the players and our side, they can probably do a lot more than they think they can as far as avoiding that situation."
Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora said the country's economic problems may make it hard for fans to choose sides when billions of dollars are involved.
"It's important for everybody to know what's going on what the issues are," Umenyiora said. "Because from the outside looking in it could probably seem like two groups of people who are making a bunch of money who are squabbling over semantics. So I think it's important for people to know that nobody wants to get the short end of the stick here. Because I see where the owners are coming and I see where the players are coming from also."
But Umenyiora said the labor situation went beyond the money and reached to the personal lives of players.
"We don't want to alienate the fans. We don't want to make them think that we're just a bunch of greedy people walking around. But at the end of the day we still must do what we have to do," Umenyiora said.
The NFLPA has also released a statement regarding union solidarity. Here is part of it.
To the Players who have come before us, fought and paid the price for pensions, health care and free agency—to men like John Mackey, Alan Page, Dan Marino, Freeman McNeil, Boomer Esiason, Reggie White and Kevin Mawae;
To the stadium workers, officers, businesses and everyone who gets their hands dirty working for this game;
To each and every player who risks everything for the thrill of this game;
To everyone who loves this game and lives as we do for kickoff;
And to the few who stand against us;
The Players and fans will STAND AS ONE."
That's all well and good, fellas. But, don't drag the fans into your fight. All we care about is that there are games on Sunday and Monday. If there aren't, we will be just as ticked off at you as we will be at the owners.
This is not what I really wanted to talk about as the season-opening kickoff approaches, but it's out there.
How worried are you about whether or not there will be football in 2011? And, if that solidarity gesture spreads league-wide will it bother you, or don't you care?
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I'm pretty certain
that the world as we know it would cease to exist without NFL football. Certainly my world would be a grim place without the New York Football Giants. This whole mess better get worked out before any work stoppage happens. If there is a strike, fans will not be forgiving and the NFL will take years to recover. Just ask the MLB. They know all about it.
by Big Blue Phatty on Sep 12, 2010 6:24 AM EDT reply actions
We have gone thru this one already..Watching scrubs play football..
I won’t watch if it happens again…I don’t see how any fan can in their right mind side with players or owners in this multi-billion dollar battle, and it does come down to greed…We as fans should have our own sign of solidarity..Everyone stand up while the players are doing that and ‘flip them the bird’…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Its not greed
both sides just want a bigger slice of the pie. I’m not sure who I side with. But I can’t be selfish and say “just play ball guys, don’t worry about money”
Sorry disagree, mac..
We fans make them rich…without us they get nothing..they don’t give a crap about us, only our money.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
oh I agree with that
I’m just saying, either way, we’re going to spend X amount of dollars on the NFL as fans. The argument is about how they split that between the two of them. It’s not like we get a rebate if both sides decide to take less. They’re keeping it all no matter what.
Wanting More
when you already have enough is the definition of greed…Both sides are guilty.
yup...enough said
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
i understand...
About getting medical care post career and even pensions to some extent (altought the regular work force has turned that in for the 401k). As for everything else, its called compromise, use it, embrace it, honor it because that’s what a good marriage is all about. Both sides are married into something huge that millions of people want to see. Don’t let the greed get the best of what the most important thing is…. The Fans.
by samrov44 on Sep 12, 2010 7:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
SUNDAY IS HERE
Happy Opening Day Giants fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 12, 2010 7:55 AM EDT reply actions
AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
Can someone answer this?
The fans that make the season happen, in large part, are season tix holders. Will teams expect payment for tickets if there is no football?
Knowing how this world works I am expecting to get a bill in the mail for them even if there is a work stoppage. The Giants will collect and bank that money while we have no football games to go to.
If anyone has anything to add please let me know.
Thanks
Fides Non Timet
Faith without fear
nah
I don’t think they’ll be hitting people up for season ticket fees if there’s a work stoppage. That’s one of the things the owners talked about. That they’ve prepared themselves financially for at least a 3 yr work stoppage.
wow...didn't know a good amount of the details...but possibly 3 years? really?
"I want it all, and I want it as quickly as I can get it." - Keith Bulluck
it won't go 3 yrs
the basic argument is who can play chicken the longest. And when fans of the NFL think of NFL players, we think of Eli, and Peyton, and Brady. The stars of the league. But the bottom line is, there are a lot of stars like AB and Steve Smith who’re only making a couple hundred thousand. That may sound like a lot. But if the season shuts down for even a year, those guys don’t have millions saved up to live on. And probably 50% of the league makes under a million. so that’s how the owners will break them.
Oh yeah, you'll get billed..you'll pay a high price to watch Pop-Warner football
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Don't the teams and NFL still get paid
from TV contracts during a lockout? So, the players get locked out and the teams still make some money, right?
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
LOL!
I got up at 3:30 and am just sitting around watching the clock…I guess I’ll mow the lawn to kill time…too early for beer
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Ha...I'm with you guys!!
Been up since 4 am….NyQuil stopped working a while ago…not helping me get my ZZZZ’s….bastards
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
seriously
someone else said it first, but what would we do without football. I guess we’d be soccer fans, and this would be the united states of France…lol
You
You can’t get f*cked up all day if you don’t start first thing in the morning
"The Cowboys Still SUCK"
hmm
Beer, maybe… coffee w/ kahlua, absolutely not.
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
owners versus players
Are medical care post career and pensions (samrov44) the main issues are between the players and the owners? I can see that these two issues might diminish the paychecks of the current players, so that money can be found to provide for the retired players.
Brian Lemaire
Osi had it right ...
Billionaires vs. Millionaires … riveting.
I'm not sure
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
This topic irritates the hell out me..
Can’t wait to talk game football, before I wind up getting a bad case of hemmoroids…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I meant game-day football....Salute!!!!!!!!!
Ed, what possessed you to start off opening day with this depressing topic?..Is the wife mad at you or something?
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
In fact...
Ed, you should e-mail yourself a BBV behavioral warning…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Couldn't agree more!
Lets play ball.. If the Giants are running the wishbone offense next september who cares, lets just enjoy todays Carolina game
CD
by Snead to Tucker on Sep 12, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Make this next year’s opening topic, when they are actually locked out.
Stick your fingers wherever you please, then play some damn football!
The problem is this...
We are going to be reminded of this each and every week until something happens….
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
players can't win
they’re trying to put on a brave face…but it’s a bluff. There’s no way for them to win this.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now er……what are we talking about here?
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I hope
that, whatever the Giants do, they do as a team, because sooner or later the strike or lockout (or threat of strike or lockout) will be over and they will have to be a team again. I remember the last time: the teams that acted together, the Giants and the Redskins, for example, came out of it much better than teams like the Jets, who split (some ugly scenes there, with Mark Gastineau spitting at picketing teammates).
Now let’s enjoy this year. Giants 23, Carolina 17
Mickey C
F--K solidarity
as you say Ed, just play the damn games. I guess I don’t have a problem with them doing the gesture though…I only have a problem with the whole thing in general. And yes, I’m terrified. This thing has been lingering like a black cloud for three years now, and it’s still not close to being settled. Are the owners and players that stupid?
Maculis and bobbiblue, I am with you. I tried to sleep as late as possible so there would be less hours until kickoff when I woke up. Kind of hard with a 3 year old, but I tried. I’m so fired up…..it’s a new season, and we need to atone for last December 27.
I still have a shockey
can’t afford to be dishing out dough for jersey’s like that…but I’ve SERIOUSLY been considering a Cruz jersey.
LOL!!..
“Shockey? !…are you kidding me Shockey !!?..Shockey? !!!….That’s my Jim Mora impression…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
LOL!..I'll have my Eli jersey on...
And my brother laws better provide some damn pass protection when I go back to pass my sockballsat the TV…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Hell yeah.
As soon as I leave the gym my tuck jersey comes on and doesn’t come off until work the next morning.
by ianwestpalm on Sep 12, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cruz would be cool
Man…I got jerseys online, giants.com, for less than $20 each. Bradshaw, Osi, and Manning (kids)…you can find them cheap at the right time.
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
NFL Sunday Ticket
Free trial this Sunday? Watching right now but will it run the full games?
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
they're actually showing the game and my friggin dad schedules a friggin meeting with my friggin project supervisor
at friggin 1:45
Hello everyone, my name is Curtis Granderson, and I'm a bus-o-holic
A supporter of the MFY.
It's crap like that..
That causes family tension…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
lol, not that bad
Hello everyone, my name is Curtis Granderson, and I'm a bus-o-holic
A supporter of the MFY.
They should I doubt they can filter the games out..
Giants 1-0
Eagles 0-1
Skins 0-1
Cowgirls 0-1
God I love it so…..!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
oh that would be sweet
but someone has to win between the cowboys and indians though…I hope washington wins personally.
Actually
Bobbi is right, Bomar will run onto the field during that game and declare both skins and boys as losers. Everyone will see this is the right call because it’s Rhett Bomar
LOL!!..Our man 'The Bomar' I forgot the girls were playing the Skins Tonight..
Go Redskins!!..and after you win I hope native americans scalp you in protest…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Forget it ... Bobbi's on a roll ...
“Remember when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ?” …
Ha!! I knew it was them..That happened right after October-fest..a bunch of drunk and hungover Germans..
In disguise did it..I always suspected that…Shof you owe it to us all to make this claim public…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I don't know how to answer that
But hopefully this will help.
I know your in Mass, but I hope your not in Boston…
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
wow.. people in tampa bay can't even watch the buccaneers .
by Cup Noodles on Sep 12, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that too
Hey on the plus side, they can watch a good game.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
good site
but yea, I’m in Worcester.
1/2 of Assachusetts doesn’t get the game, and I’m in the 1/2 that doesn’t.
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Sucks man
The answer why may be in here somewhere.
I read it a while ago, and I know its a reason that is sucks to be in a city with two teams (Giants/Jets, Raiders/49ers) because it limits the amount of games you can see. But I don’t know why they wouldn’t let you watch it in half of Massachusetts
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
there's just a chunk of Mass and New Hemphshire
that doesn’t get the game.
Whoever came up with this idea should be disemboweled.
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 12, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm out near Springfield
I get both NFC games
Talent wins 9 games
Dicipline wins 11games
Leadership = World Champions
by Mother Tucker on Sep 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I NEED HELP
Dont really feel like driving to the game. Does anyone know how to get there from pennstation in NWK
You're s*** faced already!?
LOL
I haven’t done it, but i heard it’s actually a pretty good way to go. Maybe someone else who’s done it recently will chime in.
You could call NJ Transit and ask information.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 12, 2010 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well...
I wish you all a good solid ‘Happy Boner’!…I am going to hop back on the mower for awhile..Hope I don’t get the shifters confused!!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Grab 'em both
That way you’ll get the lawn done and you can start the game with a smile on your face!
3 Hours to go.......
What to do…What to do.??
Up since 5 A.M 6 CUPS of coffee 4 shots of espresso….not a good idea
contemplated MANY changes on my fantasy team…….made 0 changes so far
Beer?? Hmmmm, still need a shower and have to decide on a jersey
should at least wait until 12 to have a beer BUT……
I think I will have beer in the shower..(avoiding the evil eye of my wife)
and decide what jersey will determine an opening day win!!!!!
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Yes....
I’m feeling my decision on what to wear is much more important for this game than any in the past. I may be spiraling out of control…
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
True
I bought a red and white bradshaw t-shirt two dats before the game and wore that for our big win. I just realized now that bradshaw is finally the starter I gotta wear it today.
BTW- Free, you may have to change your name to freejacobs if Bradshaw goes wild today!
Just saw Eli walking in...
he was wearing a “panther’s blue” tie!! I have to believe that he will wear the opposing teams colors every week…prior to destroying them!
"Osi said he's going to London to see the Eiffel Tower." -- Michael Strahan (America's Game - 2007 NY Giants)
Anyone know
who’s starting opposite of Tuck?
80% of BBV said Osi
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Coughlin
When asked about Osi this morning on Francesa’s show, he talked about putting guys in the best position to do what they do best, blah,blah. I took that to mean Osi plays mostly on passing downs for now and Kiwi will start.
Don't really care about the contract negotiations.
Niether the owners or the players hae come knocking on my door to put money in my pockets. The owners have the upper hand anyway. wait until the bills start to pile up for many of the players, they will cave in eventually.
Sunday is finally here and we get to see some action that will give us something concrete to talk about. Gaints got this game though.Its all good.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 12, 2010 11:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bobbi
Got that lawn done yet?
Just saw your post yesterday about 9/11 and you were dead on.
Which made me realize. If they want to make a display of unity, how about one to all the families affected on 9/11 instead of a contract negotiation ploy?
My heart goes out to all the families still living through the life altering consequences of the tragedy of that day.
Thanks Ron..and good idea for a salute..The lawn is done and the cold beer is being consumed!!!!
Go GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Well Ron...
Turns out our guys and the coaches did remember 911…I am proud of them…Ugly first half..but we shutdown the run and answered alot of our concerns..They kicked Carolina off the field in the 2nd half..Things seemed to start coming together..Raynaud has solved our return game…and the guys pinned them back on kickoffs..Our secondary did great, our LBs played tough..The DL did great and the O-line got their rythym back..overall this team of ours made great strides in the second half….oooops time for another beer, the Skins Cowboys are on….
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Did I mention
that Johnston is a MORON!!
by BigBlueCrew_jfl on Sep 12, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
I like TS...but Moose the pie-hole and bug-eyed Alberts need therapy
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I was able to watch the pregame “salute” that happened during the Saints and Vikings game. I think that it is interesting to see how all the teams are trying to show a united front due to the CBA negotiations going on. A big part of the CBA is to make sure the players aren’t getting screwed out of pension money because the average football career is 3 years. However, on the other hand there is the whole issue of the fans only seeing how greedy both the players and the owners are. Its times like these that the players and the owners need to think about the fans and how important football is to America. There are fans out there, like my brother, that make plans revolving around football season. By having a lockout, what kind of message is that sending to the fans?
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