New York Giants Notes: Bomar Ready To 'Let The Chips Fall'
by Ed Valentine on Sep 1, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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Rhett Bomar said all the right things Tuesday when he spoke to reporters. He praised the injured Jim Sorgi. He said he isn't worried about whether New York Giants will keep him as the backup quarterback. He said he could "only control how I play."
"It's not scary. I'm not worried about them, to be honest. Like I said a million times, I can only control what I can control. My job is to go out there on Thursday and play to the best of my ability and lead this team whenever I get my opportunity and let the chips fall as they may," Bomar said. "Hopefully they're comfortable enough with me."
Sure, Rhett. We all know you will be on pins and needles the next few days wondering if you have convinced the Giants you can be entrusted to back up Eli Manning at quarterback. Or, if the Giants will go out and get a veteran to caddy for Manning.
What do you think, Giants fans? Will it be Bomar backing up Eli, or a veteran quarterback still to be determined? Oh, and one other question for you Bomar-maniacs. How will you react if the Giants do the unthinkable and let him go?
Defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka said he is hoping for 'a good show' from the front-line defense Thursday against the New England Patriots.
"I think it being our last preseason game and knowing that we haven't performed 100 percent in the previous games, yeah, we're definitely-for whatever amount of plays we're going to be out there-we're looking to have a good show," Kiwanuka said. "I'm happy with what we've shown in practice. Now why it's not translating on the field as far preseason, it's not a major concern. Obviously we want to get everything right. We want to do everything perfect, but we understand that preseason is there for a reason. It's a time to get everything fine-tuned. So as long as we come out clicking on all cylinders and everybody is going for the regular season, we'll be good."
With Sinorice Moss on Injured Reserve it would appear relatively certain that there is a roster spot awaiting undrafted rookie free agent wide receiver Victor Cruz. The former UMass star is trying not to celebrate yet.
"The day I feel secure is the day they call me into that office and let me know I made the team," Cruz said. "Granted what I’ve done so far you kind of feel a little confident in what you can do against NFL talent. But again, you have to just remain humble and keep striving, keep pushing forward, especially on special teams where you know that’s an area of importance."
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Right or wrong I like what Grant said
he’s putting the onus on those that are making the mistakes…and getting his DC’s back
the unthinkable is definitely letting Rhett go… but there’s just no way that’s happening now…with no one else, even if they do pick up a vet…. I’m 100% sure on that… b/c if they do, I think he’s gone & someone will pick up during the course of the season if he’s on practice squad.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Don't mind what he said at all
He called out these young players for not being able to do what they are taught. It’s also his way of sending out the ‘get somebody else in here’ message.
Grant makes the point of "the players ain't trusting the DC yet".
and that’s gonna take time; not even a peyote induced stupor should tell you the Giants were gonna fire on all cylinders with a new DC right away.
I hope the GIants keep Bomar and only Bomar as the backup. Cuz I highly doubt they go with 3QB’s, so that means if they get another one Bomar’s going to the practice squad…and he ain’t gonna pass through waivers.
So its either keep or get rid of Bomar, and I’d rather keep Bomar.
As for KR, I hope they’re scouring the waiver wire. Pulled Hixon off of it when they got him and he turned out good, time for Reese to find another gem.
I think you're right that Bomar would get picked up elsewhere ...
if he got waived.
Wouldn’t be surprised though if they pick up a vet after Week 1, unless they are willing to roll the “if Eli goes down, forget the playoffs” dice. It’s only recently that they have only had 2 QB’s on the 53-man roster.
Tim Brown?
Ed, why the man-crush on Tim Brown ? He wasn’t even much good at Rutgers. He has done as much with the Giants to deserve the return job as Matt Dodge has. They get someone off the wire, that’s it.
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
Brown
Mostly because he has breakaway speed no one else on the roster possesses and I have to root for a guy his size. Of all the guys on the roster I still believe he has the best return skills.
Besides which, I will admit that I got to know him a bit in training camp, I like the kid a lot, and he has been — and continues to be — good to me. To be honest, he is a favorite of just about everyone who covers the team.
i kind of agree Ed
I have not been impressed with tiny Tim thusfar this preseason. He’s shown nothing in the passing game, and his returns have reminded me of sinorices’; a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing. I think we all root for the underdog to make it, and no one is more of an underdog than a 5’8" undrafted rook. But fair is fair; tiny has not earned a spot on this roster, thusfar.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Sep 1, 2010 7:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not enough game time
I don’t feel that we have seen enough of tim brown in game to pass judgement of his play as a giant. I would love to see cruz and brown to get a shot playing with the first team to see what they both can bring to the table with eli
by Sarasota Giants on Sep 1, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions
GiantsCauseway
Did you watch any Rutgers games? Tim Brown did very well at Rutgers
Why I hope he makes the Giants
Said this before…assuming he performs well enough, I’d like to add some speed to the team. We are lacking in speed. Guys like Smith can catch the ball but won’t run away from anyone. Even if a pass is not to him, the speed forces coverage changes, assuming he can circumvent the bump. Kick returns, he has to learn more but again, the speed will help. Hope they give him more game time, has to prove himself.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Brown's
gotta make it. I’ve had a man crush on Brown back at Rutgers, was crushed when no one drafted him and went nuts when I heard Giants got him as UDFA.
Ed is correct: he has some killer jets and can outrun near anyone. KR looks like his only doorway onto this roster, so hopefully he gets more of an opportunity on Thurs, especially since he looked so promising against the Ravens (in limited attempts). I think he has as much WR playmaking potential as Cruz, though, if not more so. He should definitely earn a spot on the GMens roster.
Any doubters should look at this game winning TD against UConn
Uh hello, planes? It's blimps. You win.
Bomar's thinking pattern is one of the primary reasons why I am impressed with him.
There is no doubt that he is confident in his abilities no matter what others may think. He is definitely QB back-up material and with the right development he can be a solid first-stringer. The Giants have a history of history of letting GOOD players go and I won’t be surprised if they decide to bring in a vet QB. However, I they do bring in someone else that QB better be a better performer than Bo’. Of cousre I’d be pissed but it’s the NY Giants, not the NY Lotechs.
The DL is not a element of the defense that we need to worry about. They have performed well thus far.
I agree with Grant. based on his assessment, the guy seems to knows what he is talking about. I suspected that it would take some time for the D to get use to Fewell’s defensive strategies and that there would be some problems until they do. This is the part of the “getting to know you” process that I hate.
Palxico: I really don’t know what to say. I think its effed up but I really don’t know what to say.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 1, 2010 7:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
basically agree
Bomar is more than adequate as a “temporary” back-up, meaning he’d be fine if Manning goes down during a game, or even if Manning misses most of a game, but as a starter for one game or more, there may be an issue- at this point in Bomar’s career. Still, that’s why they’re paying big bucks to Jacobs ( and Bradshaw, though he doesn’t make the real money….yet) to run the ball and the defense to stop the other team’s scoring. If that can’t happen even one time, then what it’s all worth?
I guess the Giants will regret or do regret letting Carr go to San Fran- was it too much money he wanted? Well, what’s too much now?
Here’s a question for someone out there, or Ed. If a team is maxed at its salary cap, and a player goes on IR, does that or his replacement count against the cap? If it does, what is the penalty to the team? Just can’t remember all these nuances.
Thanks.
I think Carr wanted to go
to a place where he thought he had a chance to compete for the one. Not happening here.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 1, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Plax
Its obvious to me. There not done making a point, using there biggest prized piece to do so.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Sep 1, 2010 7:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont care if they are making a point....
what Plaxico did was wrong, and ILLEGAL, he is paying the price now, he isnt serving any time that any normal person would serve for the crime. I think if THEY are making a point, it is that they will not give special treatment.
The man fired an unregistered gun in a public building, did you ever stop to think, what if that bullet hit someone else and not just his own leg?
don't get it twisted
I absolutely don’t feel bad for plax, i feel he ruined our season that year, and his career as well. So i’m not a Plaxico apologist.
But let’s call it how it is BigBlue…Mayor Bloomberg and the NY justice system is making sure that this incident serves as a warning to anybody who wants to sneak a gun in the club. He has a soapbox to yell off of – and that’s Plaxico’s famous name.
And let’s keep it honest here, do we really think that this plaxico thing has stopped anyone doing dirt in the club? Are we that naive to believe that if someone was bringing heaters in the clubs before plax, they were scared straight by his sentence? C’mon son! People do what people do. this plaxico incident will be lost in history soon, and as we all know, we are bound to repeat it.
We can debate all day about whether or not the punishment fits the crime. And if this, if that – the man shot himself. he didn’t shoot anyone else. You can say what if, but the point is it didn’t. The fact that he shot his own dumbass should have been his lesson.
I’ll agree that Plax did this to himself, and i’m glad he’s serving his time, but i’m not about to sit here and say well justice is served now, when Donte Stallworth, who KILLED a man while legally drunk driving his car is once again getting NFL money after serving a whopping 30 days in jail, and Leonard Little, who is a true scumbag, once again KILLED someone driving with more than twice the legal limit of alcohol in his system, got PROBATION for it, and not learning his lesson, was arrested 6 years later for – you guessed it. driving drunk.
Yes i know. different states, different situations, different laws. But you wanna talk about what if, what if plax killed, well he didn’t. these guys did. twice. and yet, he’s serving 24x the amount of time that they did, COMBINED. so when i say Bloomberg is using this charge to send a message, best believe it’s true.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Well it seems to be working.
Haven’t heard about any other currently playing NFL palyers getting in trouble with the law. Plax should have just taken the year. As much as I like him, I can’t defend him. I feel sorry for his family though.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 1, 2010 7:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
I do feel sorry for his family, and everyone involved in the situation and I hope Plaxico comes out of this a better man for it, and I think serving his time will help do that.
And good point LoNJDTechnology, everyone says that they are going hard on Plaxico, what people forget is they offered Plaxico a few deals that would of had him serveing a lot less time, he turned them down.
Big Ben?
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 1, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Big Ben.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You just said you hadn't heard any current players getting in trouble with the law
had to bring up Rapistberger.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 1, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Then I stand corrected.
But Ben’s crimes took place some time ago didn’t they. Then they came out to the public knowledge long after the fact.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 1, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It happened on March 5
and took about a month and a half between the incident and the filing of the police report. Not really that long ago.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 1, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
free 27
let him ball out
I think that’s what Jacobs shirt said, and I agree. The law makes sense the punishment does not.
its his own fault...
Everyone says that the punishment doesnt make sense, and that they are making a statement with Plax, but the fact is most people that commit that crime dont serve that much time, because most people accept the deal for less jail time. Plax turned down serveral deals, and had lawyers quit on him because he was stubborn, he brought it on himself, now he is serving the time that he asked for
Agreed.
You come to a New York public place with an unlicensed, loaded gun; with Bloomberg as mayor? Then turned down several deals? He asked for this. Again, love him but can’t defend this one.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 1, 2010 8:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's Burress' own fault
He began acting like an ass right after the SuperBowl and he thought that the world was his oyster. Any fool that is stupid enough to turn down deals for a lesser sentence deserves what they get. Let him rot.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 1, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
While I don't pretend to know
the intricacies of the work release process, I doubt that Bloomberg influenced whether he could be released or not.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Plax violated prison regs while in stir
Proving that he learned nothing, still thinks he is above the rules.
Feel bad for him, but like a kid that spits Into the wind he’s got no one but himself to blame. If he took the deal he’d be in Giant Blue right now.
I won't pretend to either
But with a man with Bloomberg’s power, and that’s power that came way before he was known as hizzoner, and the prestige and ability to wash one hand while they wash the other, i wouldn’t put it past him that he may have a little political influence in the court system.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
lets just hope it was Steve Smith telling him to "keep your head up"
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 1, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HAHA
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
People
are thinking that the Cards will dump Leinart as he takes the easy checkdown play rather than being aggressive on the field.
The Cards may take a late round pick for him – but he will not be coming in to compete for the starting spot so I do not see the logic of him coming to the Giants.
Plus as a left handed QB that will muck up the OL!
by G Fan in England on Sep 1, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
As a back up
he would be ok like Carr.
However, he wants to start so would only sign a one year deal.
As the backup will only play in mop up time unless injury occurs stick with Rhett – after all you can still trade up until October.
by G Fan in England on Sep 1, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I took it that he meant
that the Giants, given Sorgi being placed on IR could be thinking of making something happen. I know he said he thinks both the Cards and Leinart are done with each other. Did he say they called?
Personally, I think we’ve got some other spots I’d much rather see us address first. We don’t seem to like to carry more than 2 QBs, and I think Bomar could be a capable backup. I don’t see this as a pressing need. I think we need to hold onto Bomar and develop him and he might could be a solid backup in this league. He might not have looked good, but he didn’t look bad back there, considering he’s been on the practice squad for the past 2 years.
One other thought if we have to consider another QB, what about Charlie Batch from Pitt? He seems to be the odd man out, and he’ll come at a far cheaper price.
On yesterdays IR moves
It is possible that Sinorice and Sorgi could be free agents later in the season
If a injury settlement is offered to the player and accepted the player would then be released from the team and become a free agent.
This happened a couple years back with Will Demps after an injury in camp and peeing in Coughlins wheaties he was put on IR and a few days later accepted an injury settlement, He later signed and played with the Texans………So Sinorice might finally get off the payroll
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Sorgi
After he got hurt against the Jets, they said he had previous damage to his shoulder unrelated to that injury. So did the Giants screw this up from the outset? Why sign a career back up with an existing shoulder problem after he was released by his former team? I think Reese did a bad job securing a quality back up after he let Carr go without a fight.
I am a Bomar fan though ( BOMAR! LOL). It’s a gamble, but at some point you have to elevate these kids to important positions if you believe in them. Si I guess we’re going to find out if the Giants brass believes in Bomar in the next few weeks.
Its a difficult situation...
When the recurring theme you hear is that the guys on the team “don’t have
faith in him”…..
Its one thing to lack certain skills or whatever, but when you are not liked or trusted
by the other players on your team, it makes you wonder. Guys like Jeff George had all the talent in the world, but ultimately could not succeed whereever he went.
I still would prefer Bomar. He is young, give him time to watch Eli and go from there. I don’t want this team to “catch” whatever is afflicting Leinart. On another tact though, give Leinhart credit for returning to USC and chasing the college bunnies for another year before he came out, in his case, it was the right move. It might have been his last fling as a star.
Bomar #2 for game #1
Frankly, I prefer Bomar to Leinhart. But if there is a vet QB to be had Saturday night after cuts then Giants may bite.
Otherwise, Shofner 85 said it. Giants may pick up a vet QB after week one when the financial commitments are less.
The question is, do the Giants keep Bomar on the squad as a #3 if they pick someone up? As much as I like the guy, I think not. Manning is too durable and IMO they have players they like more than Bomar.
is Bomar really that bad of an option?
I mean the guy isn’t Eli, but he didn’t look that bad out there. I thought he was going to outperform Sorgi regardless of the injury. He looked a bit indecisive at times during camp but seemed to know what to do on the field.
Look, he’s young and he’s learning… ie. getting better and already IMO he has outplayed a career backup thru camp and the limited preseason action. (pre injury) So I say we go with the kid let him sit and learn. that right arm looks strong enough to hold the clipboard all day long as far as i can tell.
And I fully subscribe to the "if we lose Eli we’re screwed anyway club so why waste another roster spot on another Vet backup or lose Bomar to waivers.
The problem I see with Leinart
besides the fact that he looks like a petulant child when something goes wrong, is that if he is unhappy not being the starter, what kind of attitude will he bring here? He’s certainly not starting here. I like his skill set as a backup, but is his attitude going to be positive or a cancer?
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 1, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions
Bomar has been fun to watch
That carries some weight with me. If Eli goes down, I don’t want to see Kerry Collins or Charlie Batch struggling back there… let’s keep it interesting. It will take the whole team to step up if Eli goes down, Bomar would make mistakes but as long as the guys around him don’t give up, it might be fun to watch…
BTW, I don’t mean to “pee in the pool” on this one, but this is the same conversation as yesterday…
Go Big Blue!
One other thing that Bomar brings ...
is that he’s a lot better at getting the hell out of there when the protection breaks down.
Still, if Eli goes down with an IR type injury, we’re toast, unless we had a Hoss level back-up.
If Eli goes down for a 3-5 game stretch, we can still make the play-offs if we have a Vet who can “manage the game” well enough, and win 2-3 of those. Not sure Bomar is that guy … not yet. But yes, fun to watch.
re: Plaxico
1. You should go to prison if you enjoy going to clubs.
2. You should go to prison (by club-lovers’ standards) if you wear sweatpants to the club.
3. You should go to prison if you tuck a gun into an elastic waistband.
4. You should go to prison if you ruin my team’s playoff chances.
You play to win the game!
No
You should go to prison if you break the law and the law says you go to jail for breaking it.
Whether you think its fair or not, the law’s the law. The rest just prove he’s an idiot.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
~ disagree ~
~ If I was governor, I’d have the PD surround a different club every night and imprison all the people inside. ~
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Why not just seal the doors and torch the place while you’re at it?
~ taking notes ~
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 1, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the ~~~
don’t work as sarcasm for me, for whatever reason.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
gotta go with the disclaimer...
It’s the only fool proof method.
This is a standard comment.
"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 2, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
not my invention
just saw it suggested somewhere as part of some Internet meme …
since the damn thing gets no usage anywhere else…. give him a job, it’s a bad economy.
- Even though I’m Puerto Rican, I’m gonna resist the “he’ll work cheap” joke right here *
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 2, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I like the fact that..
A) Kiwi is pumped up for a decent final pre-season game
B) Bomar has a great attitude
C) Cruz remains humble..and I hope he turns it up a notch
D) Grant sounds like one of those locker room leaders TC is looking for
E) I hope Tiny Tim comes through..and lands the return job
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
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