Giants Training Camp: Monday Morning Practice Report
by Ed Valentine on Aug 9, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
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PrintThe moment we have all been waiting for took place this morning at New York Giants Training Camp. Safety Kenny Phillips practiced for the first time.
Phillips did some work during the individual drills at the start of practice, then took a few snaps with the second team during 11-on-11 drills. Phillips took two plays in each session, a total of about four plays that I saw during the 11-on-11 stuff. [The Giants are saying Phillips got about a dozen snaps, but that must be including plays that were not 'live' 11-on-11 plays.]
Head coach Tom Coughlin said Phillips will not play in next Monday's exhibition opener against the New York Jets.
[For more on Phillips, including some quotes from KP, check out SB Nation New York.]
Here are some other practice notes from a session held in shorts and shells.
- Rookie linebacker Phillip Dillard started the first real altercation of camp this morning, showing the guts to challenge Pro Bowl guard Chris Snee. Don't know what started it, but the players had to be separated.
- Kevin Boss has not worked since Friday. Originally it was thought that Boss was just resting his surgically repaired ankle. Coughlin, however, said Boss has a sore hamstring due to favoring the ankle during early practices.
- Sinorice Moss did not practice due to a sore groin, and Coughlin said the veteran receiver "needs to get back quick."
- That might be because undrafted free agent Tim Brown continued to impress, making a couple of nice catches this morning.
- Shaun O'Hara, Deon Grant, Travis Beckum and Jake Ballard returned to practice today.
- Will Beatty left the field for a while after getting poked in the eye. He returned a few minutes later, however, and did get some first-unit snaps at left tackle with David Diehl inside.
- The Mathias Kiwanuka at linebacker move is one that is apparently not going to go away. Kiwanuka took two series at linebacker today, one paired with Clint Sintim on the other side and one paired opposite Michael Boley. Kiwanuka also took snaps at right defensive end. Don't laugh, but Dave Tollefson also lined up at linebacker for a few snaps. Continuing the shuffling, Chris Canty played a series at right defensive end.
- A couple of outstanding deep throws by Rhett Bomar to Victor Cruz this morning, including one dropped sweetly between three defenders.
- Bear Pascoe beat Antrel Rolle down the seam for a nice catch as Pascoe continues to look like a player who should be on the season-opening roster.
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Liking the Bear pickup from last year more and more...
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Still jealous
I’m a 49er fan (though I watch the Giants as well), and it was a huge shock that Bear didn’t make it on the 49ers roster, or even the scout team. I was incredibly disappointed, since I watched him since his Sophomore season at Fresno State! Hopefully he’ll develop that huge bull riding body into a legitimate TE threat for you guys!
by Poundtherock on Aug 9, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He's turning out to be pretty impressive so far - from things I've read about
him at camp. He’s definitely more of a fit in the Giants’ offensive system then Beckum. Why didn’t he make it on your roster?
I’m jealous you guys got Willis, but then again, I don’t think we would’ve ever come close to getting him anyways. He’s a very nice player though. And liking what Singletary is doing with your club, trying to restore that sense of winning back.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Smith
Any word on his return? Seems to be A LOT of groin injuries going around.
Also this looks like the “last stand” for Moss. Then again I have been saying that for a few years so him being there opening day would not surprise me.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 9, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions
Sinorice Moss as a "veteran receiver"
makes me feel old.
by dontstopbelieving on Aug 9, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions
Moss as a "veteran receiver"??????
Why is it that this statement (Sinorice Moss a veteran receiver) does not sound right.
Being a New York Football Giants fan or a player is not a label but it is a calling!
Let Us Start A Movement: Bring Back Tyree and Get Rid of Moss!
The Giants vs Jets preseaons game
since it is on Monday will it be considered a Monday night game and be on NBC like the Hall of Fame game was?
If you live in the tristate area
It’ll probably be on a local affiliate.
Channel 9 where I live in bergen county, I believe
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
You sure, I was thinking PIX 11.
Although I could be wrong.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 9, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna have to find a stream
Damn my living outside the USA and all.
Go to http://www.firstrow.net/sports/american-football.html
This site is free and i haven’t had any problems watching NYG
NBC
has Sunday ight games, and ESPN does Monday nighters.
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 9, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Webster and confidence issues
Talk to your boy, Andi. Reese called him out.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/08/giants_cornerback_corey_webste.html
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
well first of all, he's right
but it’s not confidence IMO….it’s mental preparation and concentration.
Cweb ain’t gonna get down on himself after a bad play….he been through too much.
What he needs to do is say “ok….I’m in man coverage, there’s a minute left….DON’T LET V. JACKSON GET BEHIND ME”….instead of biting on a got damn underneath move.
second of all.....
last year, MG said that after that play Sheridan should be playing more Cover 2 / Zone Defense.
I stopped visiting his site after that day…..
He's not wrong
MG said that the better call was to play a Cover 2 than to play man. Webster played man the wrong way so maybe it could’ve worked if he had done it properly. Regardless, all we know is that it was man coverage and the defense failed. You can’t say that Cover 2 wouldn’t have worked.
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
I can't agree.....
Yes, help shoulda been there but that was on Webster. IMO that was on Webster.
you got CC Brown, Aaron Rouse, and Michael Johnson as the Safeties…..I’m glad Sheridan put Webster in Man coverage….Webster failed the team on that play….he failed miserably.
Yes
but no pass rush on the play did not help him!
by G Fan in England on Aug 9, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
G fan, it kills me to say it, b/c I'm a big Cweb fan but it's true....
and ur right….giving the QB 4 seconds to actually find that 3rd option can not continue to happen week in and week out.
of all people to fight with...
Dillard fights Snee? Well…you know he’s got balls, Snee’s one of the toughest SOB’s in the NFL and a possible HOF guard.
I'm rooting
for Bear to make the team. A tight end who can both block and catch the ball is much more valuable to this offense than a glorified wide receiver type of TE. Bear has good hands and he can rumble. Plus he’ll be useful in those two tight end sets, and a legitimate replacement for Boss if he goes down.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 9, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
Boss 'n' Bear
sounds kinda good for the short yardage team.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Aug 9, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If Timmy makes the roster...I'm buying his damn jersey...
…this is just what the doctor ordered to erase all the disappointment in WR we’ve had over the past decade…and yes I know Plax was incredible and Amani reliable, but the former was a damn circus yr in yr out and the latter just above average for the most part…to have a potential embarrassment of riches at the position coupled with a kid from Rutgers (T. Brown), Somewhere Oregon (K. Boss), and Fresno (Bear) as cherries on top…just a very nice story and one we Giants fans have earned.
who was that mighty mite...
…who was the training camp hero 3-4 years ago, ____ Jenkins??? I remember the Times did a piece about him, commenting on his tricked out Caprice wagon beatin’ down the block. As I recall, all he ever did in the regular season was catch a few WR screens that went for short gains. Hopefully Tiny Tim’s tenure with the Giants will be marked by far more big plays than the guy I have in mind.
by Step up and make big plays on Aug 9, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tiny Tim (Mighty Mouse?),
Dillard, Bear—three guys i hope make the squad.
Dillard no problem
Bear probably, they need a TE that can block well.
Brown who knows? I hope he makes it over Moss, but not counting on it.
now that's what I call...
…stepping up and making a big play. That wildebeast stood no chance.
by Step up and make big plays on Aug 9, 2010 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WildeBrees?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 10, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Graphic.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 9, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds good
hopefully it plays good too
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
jus hope the dbs can cover long enough
wouldnt want those 6 coming at me
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 9, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiwi going to LB?
I’m a little confused by all this:
The Mathias Kiwanuka at linebacker move is one that is apparently not going to go away. Kiwanuka took two series at linebacker today, one paired with Clint Sintim on the other side and one paired opposite Michael Boley. Kiwanuka also took snaps at right defensive end. Don’t laugh, but Dave Tollefson also lined up at linebacker for a few snaps. Continuing the shuffling, Chris Canty played a series at right defensive end.
What formation are they doing this out of? is it 4-3, 3-4? It doesnt make sense to me to have two talented pass rushers who are eh at pass coverage at the Will and Sam position with Bulluck or whoever the mike is.
don't be....
it’s just specific packages to help vs. the Run.
Kiwi is not moving to LB….he’s a DE that will be used at LB (and I don’t even think they’re committed to it), Fewell could just be experimenting at this point…..
thats true
the more i think of it though they can really play around with this:
i see them rushing one and dropping the other into a zone or rushing both then take a saftey and throw him into coverage with the other safety playing a deep zone.
I’d like to see some of this during the season as long as we got Kenny, Rolle, or Grant behind
Spagnuola did this too
a couple of times. Kiwi lined up in a stand-up “LB” position over the DE and then blitzed from there. And it was effective. I can totally see them doing this again. It seems they are going to try all sorts of line-ups and formations and why not?
blurgh! - me
I'm actually really interested in seeing Canty at DE during running situations as well
From the sounds of it Linval will “earn” snaps this year….and people keep saying Bernard is not the same POS he was last year.
Hopefully Cofield is improved too….
I would love to see some combo to Tuck and Canty at DE with Cofield, Linval/Bernard at DT.
What a great sight
Awesome to see Kenny back on the field, when he went down so did the Giants secondary, they became an awful team to watch. I will be great to have him back in uniform. He was a huge loss.
i remember my first too
she was puerto rican, about 5’ 1", the fattest….oh wait, what are we talking about again?!
I don't know what got into Modells
But they have a ton of Giants Jerseys over there now…..
Eli, Tuck, Osi, Bradshaw, Jacobs, Manningham, Nicks, Smith, Boss, Bavaro, Shockey (yes, Shockey)…
the shockey's must be left over from '08
i bet there on sale, while the others are reg. price. right or wrong andi?
Should We retire..
Hey folks, should be retire number 80 for shocks? JUST KIDDING i really am just kidding.. yea this joke is in ad taste.
Being a New York Football Giants fan or a player is not a label but it is a calling!
Let Us Start A Movement: Bring Back Tyree and Get Rid of Moss!
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Being a New York Football Giants fan or a player is not a label but it is a calling!
Let Us Start A Movement: Bring Back Tyree and Get Rid of Moss!
good choice
KP hopefully has a long career, but can’t expect he’ll be more then a super sub/weapon type dude. Bradshaw has bad feet…maybe he never gets freed?
Nicks is gonna be a star.
for a hot second I thought I blacked out
actually i took 2 steps out the store and almost went back…
I got the best football too, one of those ones that’s 3/4 white specifically for autographs….lol i’m like a frickin’ little kid. I really want to get Cweb or JPP to sign it…or the entire secondary…Cweb, TT, Ross, Rolle, KP…WHAT?!?!! that would be hard as hell though….(literally and figuratively)
you can wait for KP and Bradshaw until end of the season or mid-season
to see if they break out into stars….
but for me… they are all worth getting now.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
personally
I say good choice. But i’m disappointed they have no JPP jerseys… I actually thought about getting one, I just really WANT him to be the real deal
Can't go wrong there
Nicks will be the #1 WR eventually, phillips is a great player, and Bradshaws tough.
S. Moss
I wish the Giants would release this guy so he has a chance to make it on another team. If Hagan is doing well and Barden is improving with the chances he’s receiving then why continue to go down this route?
I’d like to see this guy get a legitimate shot and JR needs to understand that this pick just didn’t pan out. Let it go.
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