New York Giants News And Notes: Off Day Notes
No camp today, Giants fans, but the good news is that this is the last Sunday of the year without any kind of NFL football, and only four more Sundays until real games are being played. Let's get onto some good news:
Kenny Phillips has officially been cleared to practice. It's best to temper your expectations, but it's good to see that he's steadily making progress. On Wednesday, the Giants will be getting another player back as well, when Rich Seubert returns to practice less than a week after breaking his hand.
One of the more intriguing position battles this training camp might be that for starting running back between presumptive favorite Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradhsaw. Ultimately the Giants will be looking to use them both to mix things up the way they did so successfully two years ago, but it will be interesting to watch nonetheless. I'm particularly curious how Bradshaw will hold up with added carries - even last year he was an above average RB when he had the ball, and has an outstanding career 5.2 YPC.
The NY Times 5th Down blog says that Mathias Kiwanuka is finding his comfort zone, no matter where he lines up on the field.
Adam Schefter hit Giants camp yesterday in his tour of NFL camps, and reports that despite putting up career numbers last season, the Giants are hoping Eli's numbers go down this year. Pretty obvious, actually - the Giants hope to play from behind less and run more. That said, I hope the Giants don't stubbornly try to be a pure smash-mouth team again, not when they have such a talented group of wideouts and maybe the best QB they've ever had.
Speaking of Eli, Jim Sorgi compares him with his brother Peyton.
Mike Garafolo reports that Linval Joseph and Jason Pierre-Paul both had solid practices yesterday.
Finally, a cool profile of Giants TE Bear Pascoe. With a name like his and the ability to lasso, Pascoe has all the makings of a folk hero.
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no nfl today?
dallas and cincy toniiiiiiight, 8 o the clock. doubtful the game will resemble a real nfl showing after 20 minutes, but those are the real unis…
you beat me too it
hall of fame game is tonight our first look at the bengals with t.o. and he’s playing his ex team in the cowboys so it should be some fun while the starting units are out there
by bdasilva7785 on Aug 8, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
you're totally right
I completely forgot about that game tonight – I figured since the Giants don’t start till next weekend (actually next Monday), nobody was starting till next weekend. You’ll forgive me, though, since I could care less about the Cowboys.
2009 Did Not Happen
giants class.
I found it interesting when Adam Schefter explained how the Giants are a classy organization. I have always heard NYG was a top notch organization but never understood how really. Makes me proud to be a giants fan
Hey Ed
haven’t really heard about the other 3 RB’s besides BJ and AB. How have their practices been going?
Eli's #'s going down?
“I hope the Giants don’t stubbornly try to be a pure smash-mouth team again, not when they have such a talented group of wideouts and maybe the best QB they’ve ever had.”
I hope this isn’t the case either. As this OL ages I believe that they will become better at pass blocking vs. the run. …and why not with the chemistry between Mario, Smith and Nicks getting stronger each game last year.
If the defense is still learning the Fewell scheme then they will still struggle early and we’re not going to be able to play too much smash mouth ball in the NFC east or out of our division.
I think Eli does his best work out of the zero set and I’d love to see Nicks, Barden, Bradshaw, Smith and Mario working against any opposing defense.
RBs
Going back to when it was Tiki and BJ, I always thought it made sense to start the smaller, faster, shiftier guy first. My reasoning: At the beginning of the game, everyone is fresh, moving full speed, etc. so the little guy who can make people miss make more sense and everyone gets winded chasing after little guys, the DL starts to wear down from battling the opposing OL all game, and that’s when you bring in the hammer, let him break through the first line when they’re wearing down and then watch the bowling pins fall. His very first season, they used him like this and he’d blast through for 7-8 yards a touch. They also need to realize that he’s horrible as a goal line back.. He’s just too damn big to get through when there’s 3 tons of man packed around the goal line. Short and stocky like LaRon McClain who can get under a big man and pop him back? good, dude same size as DEs, not as effective. Hell, use Tim Brown as the goal line back, he can just walk under the linemens’ legs and just sneak right in.
Antonio Pierce on Osi
Pierce was on ESPN Radio this afternoon and he talked about Osi and Sheridan. I blamed Osi for many things last year. It looks like I wasn’t so wrong after all.
I know the Osi blowup didn’t sit well with a lot of people. And when I say that I mean that you don’t have one your star players walk out of a defensive meeting room when he’s getting, you know, corrected by a coach, especially the defensive coordinator. That didn’t sit well with, amongst, a lot of the guys. But it doesn’t send the right message with the DC as well as far as what his leadership is and the respect level. I think that was very disrespectful, one, by Osi.
He went on to say that Sheridan never made any adjustments. He just kept throwing the same slop on the wall. Pierce said that Sheridan’s unwillingness to change the defense and Osi making Sheridan lose the respect of the players “steamrolled” into the poor season the defense had last year.
Lastly, he admitted that there was no pride shown by the Giants in the Carolina game. I, and anyone with sight, could see that the team quit. Coughlin sugarcoated it when he said that the team fought hard but Pierce said it himself and he was a leader on the team.
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
That's exactly how I thought it went down
Osi overreacted on what was a legitimate call out from BS (to Osi’s credit – BS prob also didn’t know how to bring it up and did a poor job of it also, even though as a professional – it doesn’t matter how it comes off sometimes, a mistake is a mistake) and Osi uses that the whole season (you can tell just by how TC backed up his DC – even though he’s supposed to do that anyways) & BS not knowing how to communicate or make adjustments during the season (game planning & everyone still confused from game to game & making multiple mistakes a game) & lack of effective adjustments in-game (I think him being in the booth prob helps this scenario, but BS has to adjust & he didn’t). BS was just way in over his head.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
I realize that times are hard Pierce but...
bleedblue12 is right. I honestly think that it is a creed that they are told that they must follow when they join the media. The media is all about selling papers and getting ratings and they know that fans want to read and hear about controversy. If Pierce was going to talk about former teammates in this way, he would have did it before joining ESPN. I just wonder if he will carry this open book philosophy over and reveal to us what really took place on the night Plaxico shot himself for the sake of dishing the "News. If not, then he is just another hypocritical media lapdog like Tiki was.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 8, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
good point...
but Pierce said it himself and he was a leader on the team.
This statement is also an indication of a shortcoming on Pierce’s part, the man whom most looked to as, “the quarterback of our defense.” Some of the blame rests on him as well for not being able to keep the unit focused and overcome the difficulties with BS/Osi, let alone his inability to step up and make big and/or routine plays.
by Step up and make big plays on Aug 8, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize that times are hard Pierce but...
bleedblue12 is right. I honestly think that it is a creed that is told to them when they join the media. The media is all about selling papers and getting ratings and they know that fans want to read and hear controversy. If Pierce was going to talk about former teammates in this way, he would have been did it. I just wonder he he will carry that over to telling us what really took place on the night Plaxico shot himself for the sake of dishing the “News.”
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 8, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions

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