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Giants Training Camp: Offensive Line On Everyone's Mind

New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin was, predictably, asked lots of questions about Rich Seubert and the state of the offensive line during his Friday afternoon meeting with reporters.

During his daily meeting with reporters at New York Giants Training Camp, Coughlin was asked if Seubert's broken hand is something a lineman can play through.

"That is one of the biggest fallacies in the world. There was a time when I thought the same thing that you did, ‘Oh yeah, broken hand, you just tape it up, put a cast on and you go play with it,' but they don't do that today," Coughlin said. "If the metacarpal twists, they have to do surgery and put a pin in it and then you could be out for six weeks. They have to be very careful with that. If they go light early, if they just allow that thing to heal a little bit for a couple weeks to the point where they don't think that's the risk and they put a cast on it, then the guy can usually play."

Seubert will be examined today, after which the Giants will know more about when he might be available again.

Star-divide

With Seubert and Shaun O'Hara out Guy Whimper worked some at left and right guard, Mitch Petrus worked some at left guard and there were times Friday when Will Beatty played left tackle and David Diehl moved inside.

"You're going to see Diehl inside and Beatty at tackle. Then you're going to see Diehl outside and Whimper and Mitch (Petrus), so you're going to get some different combinations," Coughlin said.

Ideally,this would be a great time for Beatty to step up and grab a job. He needs to eliminate the assignment errors that got him yanked off the field Thursday night, however.

Coughlin had some nice things to say about veteran wide receiver Derek Hagan, who I wrote about earlier this week.

You know what, he's a tough guy. He's had things that have been problems for him but he finds a way to fight his way through it because he knows he has to," Coughlin said. "There's a certain thing about motivation but not just that, but about a guy that knows it. He knows it, he stays out there when other guys are done and fights like heck and he'll end up with a job. He made some nice plays today."

The Giants signed rookie free agent wide receiver Nyan Boateng of California and waived receiver/kick returner Adam Jennings. That leaves Aaron Ross and Sinorice Moss as the primary punt return men right now. Boateng, 6-1 and 207 pounds, attended the Giants' rookie mini-camp in May on a tryout basis. He began his collegiate career at the University of Florida, before transferring to California. His career totals include 46 receptions for 707 yards and seven touchdowns. Last season, he caught 13 passes for 191 yards and two scores.

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Im really concerned about our O-line............

dont know if they can put it together anymore. Anf if they cant well then it’ll be a long year.

by giantsNYrangers on Aug 7, 2010 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Whimper for real?

Sometimes it takes an OL a few years to produce but I’m not sure about this guy.

Seems Koets is no prize. Why does he still get snaps anyway?

Beatty and Petrus are only reasonable depth. Boothe in Oct/Nov if you think he is any good.

Yeah. One or two injuries away from a bad situation.

by MSP Giant on Aug 7, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I know this has nothing to do with this story but.....

Did any of you guys see the power rankings on espn. They gave no respect to the G-Men,
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2010&week=0. They even have the Cardinals who lost a star receiver and QB.

by Giants15 on Aug 7, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

We were one of the worst teams at the End of the year

i dont think we should worry about respect. But i am extremely excited about this year though, some people may think its crazy but we csn win this division and be a top team in the league this year.

Looks like Rolle is fitting in perfectly with this system and looks extremely good.
New D. Cord
D-Line should play better (Chris Canty is looking like a monster, he’s in great shape)
Receivers are looking good, i Read that Sintim is looking very comfortable and is looking like he is ready for the starting spot, Keith doesnt look stiff he looks comfortable, A. Ross is flying aroung (actually all 3 CB are looking very very good so far), i read Nicks is putting on a show. My biggest concern is the Running game. I know we can protect Eli and i think Eli will produce im just worried about the running game the most

by nwkiddnj on Aug 7, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Year after, the Giants seem to be plagued by injuries

to a greater extent than most teams, For years, I’ve been wondering why they don’t incorporate yoga, pilates ot plyometrics into their training. A few football, hockey, basketball and baseball terams have introduced Functional Movement Systems (FMS) into their training. and have significantly reduced injuries as a result. The guru of this system is Gray Cook. Maybe the Giants should contract him to act as a consultant

Of course, I have no clue what the team training protocals are, or what steps they’ve taken (if any)to address the injury issue. The record suggests that they should do more/ other.

by blue gonz on Aug 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Beatty

We really really gotta hope this kid turns the corner.

I have often times compared his rookie year to Aaron Ross’s rookie year….

Let’s be honest, it was just “OK” but the simple fact was….. he was a rookie….we all took that “ok” performance (both Beatty and Ross) and ran to the bank (as we should have).

The problem is…..Beatty is no longer a Rookie so playing just “OK” suddenly is a bad thing. Ross learned the hard way when a lot of teams picked on him in ’08. Teams will also single out Beatty and try to run blitzes in his direction.

WE NEED him to turn the corner b/c Diehl is flat out average at best. Eli got sacked more times last year than any time in his career (I’m pretty sure about that)….and our Running Game is suffering. Beatty MUST convincingly beat out Diehl and sure up that LT spot. We can’t rely on Seubert/Whimper/Petrus at LG either so Diehl would than HAVE to sure up that position.

Don’t even get me started on Kareem McKenzie and his bad back….

by andiamo708 on Aug 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

In Beatty's defense

he only started 4 games at the toughest position in football where its more about experience with a group of guys than any other position. Still don’t get your beef with ross

by Giants15 on Aug 7, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure why

you would take my comment like I’m attacking Beatty or Ross….

The fact is Aaron Ross played “ok” as a rookie in ’07….and IMO he played about average in ’08 maybe slightly above average….of course that was his first full year as an every day starter, so again, I thought he played fine and held his own. Ross himself came out and said that he was very disappointed by that season though….

And you don’t have to defend Beatty either….I’m rooting for him to win the job! In fact I think it’s imperative. I’m just pointing out what you are pointing out….Left Tackle is a HUGE responsibility. The fact is…right now Diehl is an average “middle of the pack” Left Tackle. We need an upgrade. We need Beatty to be more than that….be more than “ok”….be more than he was last year.

by andiamo708 on Aug 7, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he can't win the job and Diehl is forced to play LT

it leaves our LG position even that much more in question.

Seubert may require surgery (and he’s not that great anyway), Whimper is completely unproven, Petrus is a rookie…

its’ a chain reaction….

by andiamo708 on Aug 7, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Killer Andi strikes again

" I’m not sure why you would take my comment like I’m attacking Beatty or Ross…."

Who says Canadians are a friendly people? Huh? Who says? Show yourself!

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 7, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol...I have to clarify specifically for you...TS

because you know how i really feel about Ross (a lot of BBVers don’t).

In fact when I found this site (Last year during Training Camp) I remember saying that TT was going to take Ross’ job (and it wasn’t well received) so I kinda shut my yapper and just let TT do the talking for me.

But in regards to my comment above…there was nothing “negative” in there about either player….nothing is wrong with being “ok”.

I can be impartial when it comes to his performance on the field.

by andiamo708 on Aug 7, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i never said attack

but you do have problems with ross.

But in regards to the oline, i wish the staff would pick a group and try it. If they really believe Beatty is their guy, then he needs to start now. O line is the most team oriented position. Its not about your assignments but knowing what the other guys tendencies are so you can then make the correct decision. Thats something he can only learn by playing with those guys

by Giants15 on Aug 8, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

well you are right about that Giants15

and Ghost knows how I feel too.

with that said, I still maintain that ross has played “ok” as a starter in ’08…and I thought my post above was not “anti ross”….but just “honest”

Just the other day I was flat out agreeing with Ghost that Ross is the most talented CB on the team…and I stand behind that

by andiamo708 on Aug 8, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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