'Spoon Drawing Raves In Atlanta
I really hate to be a downer on an absolutely gorgeous Friday afternoon, but a story caught my attention earlier today and I figured it might get some of you worked up.
Remember leading up to the draft how Sean Weatherspoon was a guy many of you were begging the Giants to grab with their first-round selection? Of course, we know the Giants went with Jason Pierre-Paul.
Many figured 'Spoon was too flashy, had a little too much diva in him and might be a 'tweener who would not have a real position with the Giants.
Well, 'Spoon ended up with Atlanta just a few picks after the Giants took JPP. And the Falcons are absolutely loving him.
Based on the raves he's drawn from the likes of 10-time Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez and third-year quarterback Matt Ryan, Weatherspoon is the Falcons' un-rookie. His veteran teammates love the bravado and playmaking the 19th overall selection out of Missouri has instilled into the team, whether lining up on the strong side, weak side or in nickel coverage. Weatherspoon's speed, range and passion have added what Gonzalez calls a needed swagger to a 21st-ranked defense.
Word at the Senior Bowl was that Weatherspoon ran his mouth as fast as he tracked down ballcarriers with 4.6-second speed over 40 yards. Some personnel evaluators were turned off. Not Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff.
"There was a lot of talk about Sean being overly loud," Dimitroff says. "We talked about being more urgent and faster as a defense. We want guys who have that evolving swagger.
"Spoon adds an element we didn't have last year."
Weatherspoon is a hit-and-run trash talker who adds the right mix of audacity to a defense led by weakside linebacker Mike Peterson and defensive end John Abraham.
"We're trying to win a championship," Weatherspoon says. "We feel like we have the pieces. There's a sense of urgency. Guys are hungry and ready to attack."
During a goal-line drill in sweltering heat, 5-10, 244-pound running back Michael Turner burst through the hole only to meet his defensive mirror, 6-2, 245-pound Weatherspoon. When Weatherspoon slammed into a pile of linemen, left tackle Sam Baker took exception, and punches were exchanged.
"I've never seen a rookie defensive guy come in like Spoon," Gonzalez says. "Just his whole swagger, it's going to help us a lot."
It's much too soon to say the Giants made a mistake passing over Weatherspoon. If Jerry Reese had a do-over, though, would you be screaming for him to grab 'Spoon? Or, are you happy with Pierre-Paul?
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thank you Ed
staring at the clock was getting pretty boring
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
LOL!
It’s Friday, leave early for the weekend!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
it's like I work for Coughlin or something....
I got another 45 minutes…..
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
figured this was gonna pop up
watching one of their pre-season games a week ago, every time Weatherspoon was on the field, we would hear how great he has been for the falcons during camp. To early to tell if Jerry should of drafted him or JPP. Not sure what I think right now.
"It's easy being a winner in the pros. Try winning two high school basketball championships, like I did" - Cooper Manning
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 27, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing has occurred.
Noone has played in a game yet, lets not second guess and bash Jerry Reese at every turn. Lets not put Sean Weatherspoon in the HOF just yet and lets not label JPP a bust either. Lets judge them in a few years and not before their rookie seasons are even underway.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Aug 27, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Spoon may end up being a good player but if he’s not gonna start at MLB it doesn’t matter. He wasn’t gonna start over Boley and he’s too small to be the SAM so my response is meh?!?
I still like the ballsy-ness of taking Pierre-Paul. The kids a physical marvel and from everything I’ve heard he has a good motor so that’s all I need to know talent + hard work + the time to develope behind Pro-Bowl caliber vets is a recipe for success.
by TheBXRepresenta on Aug 27, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wrong, wrong and wrong
He could play Mike just fine. Atlanta has him on the outside because that is where their biggest need was. He IS playing SAM in Atlanta, so I don’t see how you can say he is too small to play SAM. He wouldn’t have needed to start over Boley, he would have started over Goff or Sintim easily and been a drastic improvement.
this time last year
The big three (Ryan, Gonzalez, and Turner) were the greatest thing since sliced bread also…check it out. So I’m going to go ahead and wait to see how he looks with my own eyes.
I like spoon a lot
a hell of a lot. And funny how after all the “reach” talk, we reached and grabbed the freak athletic but raw JPP.. Now i dont sit here and say we should do over. BUt i loved what spoon brought to the field.
And he isnt too small. he’s 6’2" 245… keith bulluck is 6’3" 235.
Wel will see though how JPP comes out before the comparisons go in spoons favor(he will get playing time so let the bashing begin lol)
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I was always happy they passed over Spoon
I don’t really give a crap who’s raving about him in training camp either.
Way too early to tell, but considering he plays the same position as Boley, who I think’s gonna have a monster year now that he’ll actually be playing the position that made him a top 5 NFL LB earlier in his career…that’s fine.
As many have said
it really does not matter on paper as much as they would like us to believe. It depends on heart, motor and whether or not the ‘marriage’ of the organization and player meld. If he melds with them, then great for both, I hope he succeeds.
I do know this, the Giants do not like the trash talking flashy types on their teams.
The last one was Strahan but he cultivated that persona over several years to become the ‘leader’
He was also very well respected for his talking even by opposing players.
Favre(hate to say that name) is the same way…..he talks a bit, his trash talking is well documented as well.
well...
not saying he’s anywhere close just yet, but you mentioned Strahan, but Antonio Pierce while not flashy talked trash with the best of em, and was more then a few times a culprit to commit boneheaded penalties due to his attitude.
And then there was that LT fella, but Spoon’s gonna have to go through a few years of paper towels to even get in line to shine his jock.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 27, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
JPP fits the team better in terms of personality and position.
He’s not a loudmouth
The Gisntys are obviousl keeping their first D priority the same as the SB year—waves of DLs continually. I can wait for JPP to develop.
yup. this.
Fact of the matter is a star DE outweighs a star LB all the time and every time.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 27, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
Who was the DE star that outweighed Taylor?
"‘cause he’s worried about everything, and he tries to win all the time."
-- Francisco Cervelli on Alex Rodriguez
ok
Who’s the defensive star that outweighs Brian Urlacher?
"‘cause he’s worried about everything, and he tries to win all the time."
-- Francisco Cervelli on Alex Rodriguez
Bears defense hasn't been good since Mark Anderson, Alex Brown
Adewale Ogunleye, Tommie Harris and Tank Johnson were in beast mode.
So the answer is the Bears defense blows, so using Urlacher doesn’t ring any bells.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 28, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair point
How about Ray Lewis?
"‘cause he’s worried about everything, and he tries to win all the time."
-- Francisco Cervelli on Alex Rodriguez
same thing.
3-4 or 4-6 D anyway.
Also…Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams (the NT, not the ‘only thing Boston’s good’ for beer) made for a wall of fat that I’d think anyone could at least be an average MLB..but Ray is great so he was.
And The Ravens D was semi-middle of the pack once those 2 left. IT wasn’t until they got Haloti Ngata that the Ravens and Ray Lewis came back for the past couple years to what they are now.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 29, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
LT was great on his own
but like Doc says its a 3-4 D so the DE’s are unhearalded, but they did have some extremely good DL’s when LT was there.
LB’s can’t be good without DL’s. LB’s can be anonymous but look like stars if the DL is top notch…just like the 2007 GIants showed and many seem to forget.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 28, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't tell if this is a shot
at Reese and JPP or what. Why is this on here? to rub salt in the wound that our LB’s are still a question. Ya know I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin.
F the Falcons, F Spoon, we got Jason and I’m on his bandwagon
It's not a shot at either of them
It’s simply something different to discuss. Gotta get tired of talking about injured players all the time. I just figured some of the folks who really wanted Weatherspoon would like to read it.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 27, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya I'm tired
of the preseason banter at this point too. And I guess I’m just very defensive of Paul at this point.
There seemed to be two frames of mind on how a draft should be run on this site. Those who wanted to fill needs now, and those who wanted to draft with the long run in mind. I fellinto the second category, and have no problem with taking a potentially dominant end even if (for now) you have a few good ones.
Guess I feel like the JPP pick has become somewhat of the scapegoat for all that is wrong with the team to this point, and don’t feel that it is the right place to place the blame, if there is any blame to go around.
no surprises from this rookie class yet
I was a fan of Weatherspoon, but judging by what I’ve seen from him and the rest of the rookies that were being called for by the BBV boards, I don’t think there are a lot of shocks…
CJ Spiller looks explosive, Earl Thomas looks pretty fluid. All the LB’s are… who we thought they were (sorry for the quote). McClain looks great on the interior run, maintains gap responsibility extremely well- exactly what Oakland drafted him for. He looks a little slow moving laterally and in coverage, but it won’t be a huge issue cuz that’s not what they need him for. Spoon looks fast in pursuit and excellent in coverage, even on slot receivers, but i think he stutters in reading the triangle and still a bit of over pursuit. No surprises.
JPP will work out if he is well coached, and I think the Giant’s staff will take care of it.
also
good post Ed. you’re keeping mid August interesting man
Only time will tell...
The Giants have had such amazing success drafting and developing DE’s and very poor success doing so at the LB position, maybe it was a case of just trusting their board and their scouts who were high on JPP. You have to give our scouts the benefit of the doubt with this one.
Kick his ass Sea Bass
Hmmm..I always said..Spoon sounds and acts like a guy we know...
LT
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Yep..He has the same fire..
Whether he can match LTs play remains to be seen..but this kid is bringing it on.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
....And how about CJ?
Damn Buffalo snagged him..He’s doing everything up there..damn damn damn
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
And please Coach "walking farts" Coughlin..
Take a looksee at Tracy at LB…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Interesting...
People seemed to have cooled down a bit with the choice of JPP over Witherspoon, or anyone else for that matter. If you had written in April that the Giants should take JPP with their first pick, outrage would ensue. Go back and read the comments from April, and have yourself a laugh.
I'm not totally down on the JPP pick..
Everybody knew they were going to have to make a football player out of a ballerina..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Wow haven’t heard a good Kris kross (sp?) reference in a while! Actually I haven’t heard a good Kris kross reference ever.
by pataroons on Aug 29, 2010 7:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't want JPP, yup
but I really more so didn’t want Weatherspoon here.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 28, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I don’t know about you Ed, but spoon didn’t look all that impressive in coverage against the patriots.
Too be honest though, I would prefer anyone over JPP. Hell, even Ryan Matthews.
Ryan Matthews is going to be a beast
he would’ve been perfect for our team
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 28, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I really didn't want JPP
and, if offered a trade straight up today, JPP for Spoon, I’d probably take it. Quickly. Just me.
You play to win the game!
Everyone knows I'm a big spoon fan
I felt he was who we needed to take then and I still do. Spoon has looked like a pro athlete for the Falcons. JPP has looked like freak athlete bumbling bafoon for us. Until proven otherwise Reese botched this one.

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