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Giants Training Camp: It's Fun And Games, Sometimes

Eli Manning's New York Giants teammates had a little fun at his expense Wednesday, mocking the stitched up quarterback.

Center Shaun O'Hara was, as you might expect, the ringleader. He showed up for lunch wearing a huge bandage on his forehead, mimicking the smaller bandage Manning was sporting.

  • I noted here Wednesday that both Gerris Wilkinson and Phillip Dillard got some snaps with the first team at outside linebacker spots. Coughlin spoke about both guys during Wednesday's meeting with the media.

    On Wilkinson.

    "It was earned by the way he played the other night. He had some physical tackles, he did well on special teams, and he did well in the open field tackling a back in the backfield," Coughlin said. "So you want to be able to encourage the guys that do that."

    On Dillard.

    "It's just we're down a linebacker so we're going to have to do this with one less guy now that Chase (Blackburn) is out," Coughlin said. "So they're going to have to learn everyone's place."
  • Speaking of Blackburn, he expects to miss a couple of weeks, but is relieved that his knee injury is not more serious.
  • Sort of an odd scene right before lunch in the media access area. Media darling Victor Cruz, the undrafted free agent from UMass who starred in Monday's preseason victory over the New York Jets, came in, was mobbed by reporters and quickly escorted to the podium where major interviews are done. About a minute later, Sinorice Moss came in, cast an expressionless glance at what was going on and proceeded to go eat. Not one person talked to Moss.

    On his way out, though, a handful of reporters grabbed the veteran wide receiver and asked him about Cruz' success. Moss, unflappable, said he has heard this stuff before.

    "I've been asked these questions many times throughout the years," Moss said. "I take the same approach - a positive attitude and a smile. I know what I bring and I know what I'm capable of doing. That's why I have the smile on my face all the time."

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It also helps having those incriminating photos of JR and TC!

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 6:16 AM EDT reply actions  

exactly my thoughts

it would explain the smile a little better, that smug PoS

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Aug 19, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilkinson

glad he’s getting some opportunities at SAM…good for him…and the Giants will be better for it – as long as he doesn’t hurt himself while taking a nap.

Moss, feel for the guy…just send him to somewhere he’s wanted and they’ll make good use of him – at the same time bring back something for him…anything – win/win
He’s good enough to play 3rd or 4th on a West Coast or Shotgun type offense. He can’t do ST, so trade him. He’s just not going to get anything more from the Giants…I just don’t see it.

"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy

by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 6:23 AM EDT reply actions  

+2

Moss will do well on quite a few teams, but he’s never going to get those opportunities here.

Wilk getting hurt taking a nap is quite possible. LOL.

by potroast on Aug 19, 2010 7:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Re: Moss -

I pretty much agree. I like the guy and feel for him. Being a Cane myself, I have a sift spot for him too. Even that notwithstanding, I will say that personally i.e. character-wise, Sinorice has been nothing but positive. His good attitude and work ethic has been exemplary and refreshing throughout his career. And there must have been times of serious frustration when acting out would have been an option for others.

At times I’ve felt like the poor guy just hasn’t been given the opportunities. But then after seeing what he did with the PR opportunities he was given last year, I began to believe that there just isn’t a role for him here.

I read an article the other day about how the Redskins have no set WR’s after Santana Moss. Maybe it would be nice for all parties to trade him there for a draft pick or a ST/depth guy. I would like to see Sinorice get a chance somewhere.

…or a renaissance here.

by BigBlueDeadHead on Aug 19, 2010 8:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

well dont worry Moss....

I dont think you will have to be answering “those questions” much longer, at least not from Giants reporters! ha!

by BigBlue82 on Aug 19, 2010 6:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Coughlin's explaination on trying to replace what Blackburn does

makes a whole lot more sense then seeing it as a knock to Sintim’s play.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 19, 2010 6:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I accept I may have over reacted regarding my post yesterday on our vaunted draft class.

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

just curious?

FB have you been folling “sun dial” Spikes in New England? he has been pretty impressive and Belichick loves him.

by BigBlue82 on Aug 19, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got this one Free

Wait for the season.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Aug 19, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

3-4

It’s easier for a slow ILB to play in the 3-4 than to be the MLB in the 4-3.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

this.

he’s be tortoise in our system

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I will say that Sintim hasn’t played extremely well as of late, but this is not evidence that the guy is playing bad either. Wilk. played well Monday and he should be rewarded. TC handled this development perfectly.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think Sintim will emerge as a good one

Surprised he hasn’t already, but I see alot of talent there..Goff is looking good, but we still are not getting the pressure.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Sintim

I have to admit I am worried about him, he has not “flashed” since a couple of garbage-time pass-rushes in the preseason last year. At some point, he has to make a play……

Wilkinson has been a perrenial disappointment but he did what he had to do the other night to get some exposure, irregardless of whether its second teamers or whatever…

I am starting to think that with the Giants glut of edge-rushers, and the Gmen orignally slotting him there, that Sintim is now going to exposed at LB. Its getting close to sink or swim for him.

by dubsrub on Aug 19, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Your worrying is premature

KP didn’t do much as a rookie and he played a lot as the 3rd safety. Manningham didn’t do much as a rookie. You have to be more patient with young players. Sintim was a rookie last season, learning a defense that even veterans couldn’t or wouldn’t follow. Now he’s learning a new defense and still adjusting to what amounts to a new position for someone who played with a hand in the dirt in college.

Part of Bullock’s appeal to the Giants is the fact that he can lead a young player like Sintim. Sintim will make mistakes. He will need help in his growth. Very few young players do well without any veteran leadership. Give him time.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 19, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure about that...

Sintim was a 2nd round pick. There are loads of rookie LB’s that make immediate impact in this league let alone second year players. Lbs dont have to know the myriad of coverages/routes/how to run routes etc that Manningham does. Often times being athetic is enough, thats why they keep trying Kiwi there. Additionally, nearly every player worth a flip “flashes” at some point to where you say “man he is fast” or whatever.. . honestly, I can’t say I remember anything Sintim has done other than maybe the first game he played edge rushing…. Along those lines, when have you ever hear Ed or any blogger say “Sintim made a nice play” in camp? Hardly ever. I am trying to think of terrific linebackers that sat on the bench a couple of years before they became good. I can’t think of any. Players that were good play, and how good does Sintim have to be to crack THIS linebacking corp anyway??? Its like saying Rob Zatechka was good when he could not beat out Greg Bishop.

by dubsrub on Aug 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

the one example that comes to mind

Carl Banks….i don’t think he was actually “sitting” his rookie year but I remember he had a tough time at first….I think late in his 2nd year it kinda started clicking for him.

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

not all.

Keith Bulluck was considered a bust after his first 2 seasons (so that would be this season for Sintim), but turned into one of the best LB’s in the NFL for the next 8 seasons.

Just cuz he plays for the Giants, doesn’t mean he’s a bust.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 19, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not when they're changing positions and/or defenses

Sintim was a DE/OLB in a 3-4 scheme. Now he’s playing SAM in a 4-3. The responsibilities aren’t the same. The reads aren’t the same. It’s unreasonable to think that the transition would be seamless.

Last year he missed the first four games of the season with a groin injury. This year he will start. He’s not going to sit for a couple of years so that doesn’t apply to him.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 19, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pro Bowl

I looked for 4-3 SAM LBs who made the Pro Bowl in the last three seasons. There was only one guy: Julian Peterson. He made it in the 2007-2008 and 2008-2009 seasons. He’s a 3X All-Pro and 5X Pro Bowler. I checked his stats for the first two seasons of his career.

2000: 13 games, 46 tackles, 29 solo, 10 passes defended, 4.0 sacks, 2 INT
2001: 14 games, 51 tackles, 29 solo, 3 passes defended, 3.0 sacks, 0 INT

Here was Sintim’s numbers from last year:
11 games, 20 tackles, 14 solo, 0 passes defend, 1.0 sack, 0 INT

Sintim’s numbers aren’t as good. But considering that he is learning a new position, I don’t see a reason to panic.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 19, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

it really depends on the system they are getting into

if it was similar to what they are use to and comfortable with back in college…if not the player will be hesitant most times than not…their skills haven’t been diminished – they are just thinking too much and being cautious… the game is not comfortable for them yet…b/c of not knowing what to do during various in game scenarios. If you here players in their interviews, a lot always mention repetition…so comfortability is def. an issue.

One reason Nicks was soo good last year with minimal playing time is b/c he was used to the type of pro-offensive sets that the Giants were running…he said he that he was comfortable with what they were trying to do… he just had other adjustments to make on his end that were more speed of the game, etc.

"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy

by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitch Petrus said the same thing

Bobby Petrino was once Coughlin’s offensive coordinator and Petrus said that the Arkansas O-line under Petrino had almost the same assignments and reads as the Giants O-line. He admitted that the similarity between the two is why he’s been able to progress so quickly.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 19, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

bad joke O Hara.

The injury that Eli sustained could have been much worse. Dispite the fact fact that he erred, he was blind sided and we are lucky that he will only be out for a game or two but to joke about that is in poor taste all the way. -10 respect points.

Moss’s situation is something that he has to correct. There are ways of demanding a trade without causing a ruckess within the organization. Moss just needs to man up and say what needs to be said.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 8:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

But

he did it because the injury was minor – he would not have worn it if Eli had been out for a month.

Plus Eli has a good rapport with O’Hara and the OL and can take this type of in joke.

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what G Fan? You're right.

Therefore I will only subtract 8 respect points.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am sure it lifted Eli's spirits..

A good joke can do that…It actually shows how much the o-line respects him and the tight relationship they all have..that is a good thing..Eli probably laughed his butt off..Training camp is so hard on these guys that they need a little comic relief.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I didn’t see this is bad taste. It’s also a subtle way of those guys saying that, were we in the game at the time, we would havebeen there to protect you. In fact, it appears most of the O-line was involved in the gag:

(AP): Teammates were glad to see Manning walking around, and offensive linemen Shaun O’Hara, David Diehl and Rich Seubert arrived at lunch wearing huge bandages over the left sides of their heads.

"I wouldn’t expect anything less," Manning said, shaking his head.

He later got back at O’Hara, saying that while he did not pass out after being cut, O’Hara did when he looked at it.

by Step up and make big plays on Aug 19, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

O’hara was giving props after the game to Eli for not passing out at the sight of his own blood. He said Eli was squeamish that way. Pretty funny stuff.

by ronjohnson on Aug 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

+10

 This was great bonding humor between team mates. These guys thrive on that kind of stuff to lift their spirits during the dog days of camp.

by ronjohnson on Aug 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

 But that hit scared the hell out of me. Eli may not be at the top of my best QB list but I do understand his value to the team. It is the fear of losing him due, in part, to the fact that someone on the OL didn’t pick up a block that makes it a bad joke to me. But I do see your point.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah it scared all of us..that was a terrible hit he took...Another example

of how tough that kid is..I frankly thought he was hurt really bad..but he just got up and waved for a trainer..I sure hope he doesn’t get hit in the back like that again..that was what really shook me up, not the cut.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Self inflicted

When Eli decides to keep the ball without telling anyone you cannot blame the OL for missing a block!

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes your right the o-line didn't really have anything to do with it..

Except for letting Pace loose..Somebody missed that block..but again Eli saw an open swing pass and didn’t check-off, so BJ ran him over..Eli looked like an RFD on that play as a result.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

Pace would be unblocked on a Jacobs plow into the middle of the line.

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

True..I believe it was a single back line-up, so the hand-off if he did it

would negate Pace getting to him.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still think Jacobs could have protected Eli..even though it was a broken play..

He was right there.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jacobs

still thought it was a running play so he was running towards the line looking for the gap expecting Eli to be out of the way handing him the ball in the breadbasket.

Next thing Eli is standing in his way and they collide.

100% accident and 100% on Eli.

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Realize Eli said it's his fault

but him saying it wasn’t a check makes me ask, “Well, if it wasn’t a check and there’s a run/pass option, why was Jacobs running like that with Barden 1-on-1 in the end-zone?” It’s not possible for Jacobs to be aware that a fade might be an option there?

by takeoutburger on Aug 19, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

its not jacobs call to make,

he thought it was a run at the time and was essentially just following orders. I mean, if he just assumed eli was gonna see it and pass and decided to block instead of grab the rock and run without an audible from eli, the same thing may have happened.

if eli wants to ad lib and take advantage of a defense, by all means go ahead. I encourage it as I think it’s been his brother’s main vessel for success. He just has to make sure he communicates it to everyone clearly and quickly.

Uh hello, planes? It's blimps. You win.

by RealLT on Aug 19, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am surprised nobody asked me what RFD stands for..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea Eli seems to have a good relationship with O'hara

Did you guys see the espn training camp bus tour when Schefter was in town??? The whole interview turned into a whole comedy skit. Eli acting like O’hara brought tears to his eyes, and then they go on to talk about how O’hara looks more like Jeff Saturday from the Colts then the Manning brothers look like each other

by bdasilva7785 on Aug 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad Joke?

OMG! You are wound too tight. Loosen up!

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Aug 19, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

It’s no big deal…and it was most of the starting linemen that did it, not just O’hara…
that’s team sports.

"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy

by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coughlin not mentioning Sintim speaks volumes.

by jessie1 on Aug 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

yes your right

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Moss

I feel for the guy and respect his approach as a player and as a person. He deserves the same opportunities in games as everyone else. So what if he can’t return punts, you don’t see Smith, Nicks, Barden, Ham or Hagan back there doing anything either but they get plenty of opportunities at WR. He has made plays when given the chance…

Also, what he said and the way this was written is completely out of context to sound as if his first response to the question about Cruz’s success was dismissive…and that is completely misleading because he stated how happy he is for all his WR group when they make plays.! See for yourself…

http://www.giants.com/player/ivideo-09.asp?file_300=rtmp%3A%2F%2Fcp50514%2Eedgefcs%2Enet%2Fondemand%2F50515%2F50515%2FTraining+Camp%2FMedia+Avails%2F10%5F0818%5Fmoss%2Eflv

by BigBlueBallin on Aug 19, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Why

let facts or the truth get in the way of a chance to moan about Moss – if it was not Moss it would be someone else!

by G Fan in England on Aug 19, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hagan

may not return punts but he is already a huge part of special teams as the gunner, Tyree’s old job.

Speaking of Tyree, every fan was sad to see him cut last year, but it was a move we knew was coming. Losing Moss will be a lot easier to handle.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 19, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't feel for Moss

He is being paid handsomely for contributing absolutely nothing but his smile to this team.

Nobody need to be sorry for him, he is doing quite well. Thats while he is smiling.

by dubsrub on Aug 19, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moss

Now I am starting to feel bad for him. I used to really hate him… hurt all the time and doing nothing on special teams. But now we always hear how great a guy he is in the locker room and also seeing the videos of fans at training camp going nuts for him.

But this is a business…. when 4-5 guys do the job better then you and you had over 4 years to prove yourself, its time to cut ties. I think he can be a good #3/slot receiver for another team, gotta stay healthy of course.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 19, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Me too....

i’m fricking sick of him…but he is a great person and a good teammate.

Yesterday MG was on twitter talking about some of the questions the media were asking Moss, and it was ridiculous….

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilkinson

Ive always thought he was pretty good when he stayed healthy..especially that one run he had during the __ season. I forget which one but i think it was the one before the superbowlyear.. Anyways tho, he gets a lot of flack on this site, but fact remains that throughout the injuries and the years of his percieved under achieving play..the giants have kept him on this roster for a reason. He has flashed before on the field in real game situations.. i like him battling sintim now.

Sintim has been a bit of a slow learner so far as a giant..but theres no pressure here. He’s a 2nd year guy. If anything wilkinson should beat him out of the spot.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 19, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

He gets flack

due to his inability to stay healthy. When he’s on the field he’s performer well especially during the Super Bowl run.

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Aug 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moss..

He needs to show more than a great personality..and he hasn’t. that is the problem with him..geez he has show he can bring some game and contribute he hasn’t. I like the guy but for crying out loud he should be producing by now.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

yea.

i’ve lobbied this train before when he was hott in camp..but this year.. hagan has continued to improve as a solid backup…cruz is yet to be determined….ham, smith, nicks…. all that spells odd man out for my man smoss.. the only thing i see that may keep him is if barden’s injury naggs along too long

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

CRUZ!

We need to see him against the 1st and 2nd stringers in preseason now. If he can get some separation against that level of competition (and TC seems to like what he’s seen in camp) then I think Moss is a goner.
  Cruz’s instincts and adjustments on the ball were top notch last week. No way to sneak him onto the developmental squad now. Someone will take a flyer on him on their squad if we don’t. Rex already made that clear!

by ronjohnson on Aug 19, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

Your right about Cruz to an extent, but his moves to the ball are impressive..natural instinctive talent I don’t care who he plays against, that kid just shows the rare skills that will take him far..We need to keep that kid..and yeah he won’t last 10 seconds on the practice squad…Every once in a blue moon a kid shows up and a star is born..This kid has it all..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hearing how the team reacts to Eli's Injury

Makes me think that the team really doesn’t respect Eli.

But F Sinorice Moss! He sucks, he should be mad, he should be angry with himself because he has had all the time in the world to score 3 Touchdowns against a team’s 2-3 team. Moss is just living on his brothers name, and not trying to make one for himself… well he has, he’s the bum.

by jdaking123 on Aug 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

clearly

you have no idea. Eli is probably the most respected member of the team by his teammates.

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Aug 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

When all of that happened, Brandon Jacobs yelled at his coach out of anger not showing any sympathy that his QB just had blood all over his face. Then moments after him and Ahmad Bradshaw were on the bench laughing, now I do not know if it was because of Eli Manning, but your QB just had his own blood all over his face. Shaun was in the media saying Eli get’s queasy from seeing his own blood(now that makes someone look like a woose), but then says ‘I don’t know if tough and QB can be used in the same sentence’(WHAT?), but then stumbled on this next sentence, ‘Eli Manning is tough’.

If I’m a teammate of someone who just got a 3 inch cut on their head… I’m not going to say any words that makes others question his toughness.

by jdaking123 on Aug 19, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

relax

he said, ‘I don’t know if tough and QB can be used in the same sentence’, because generally speaking a team’s QB is considered 1 notch above kickers on the toughness chart. BUT “Eli Manning is tough.” Clearly he doesn’t consider Eli to be the typical whiny little puss QB (insert Sorgi’s name). These guys respect the hell out of Eli and they joke like brothers do. If my brother makes a mistake and hurts himself, you’re damn right i’m gonna let him hear about it for a while. Then I’ll screw up and he’ll do the same.

As for BJake, he was probably getting his ass chewed as he ran off, but we couldn’t see with the camera behind the coach. Pretty sure he was yelling that he didn’t see or hear any check off.

As for the blood all over Eli’s face and guys joking afterward, facial skin is pretty thin and the vessels are all at the surface. So even a tiny cut bleeds like a stuck pig. No reason to sit on the bench and cry about a superficial wound, as long as you know the guy didn’t suffer a concussion.

by Matt V on Aug 19, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ was getting

His ass chewed out for not squaring off and protecting his QB..As I said earlier these guys once they learned Eli wasn’t seriously hurt brought it to camp with some joking around..there is absolutely nothing wrong with that and Eli was equally joking about it. They are like brothers these guys..a little relief from the rigors of camp…They know how tough he is and we witnessed it..Shit he was ready to go back in after the half..that is probably why they had his head examined…I remember Parcells ordering the staff to hide Joe Morris’s helmet when he took a big whack and was amped up to go back in the game…Eli is a tough tough sob and we are lucky to have him..I still think Jacobs could have had the wherewithall to stop Pace..that is inexcusable..He can run his big mouth all he wants..Eli blew the call but BJ has to step up and protect him..and he could have and he is supposed to..it is football 101..broken play…hit somebody don’t just stand there like the earth revolves around you..I am certain that that is why he got his big mouth butt chewed out..Actually I think BJ is pretty much done..all mouth, no action.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go again, Bobbi.

Pussyfooting around instead of telling us how you really feel.

by blue gonz on Aug 19, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL..yeah George

You know me by now, I shy away from contraversy..How’s your knees doing?..My computer blew out and I am now using one of the kids..but of course had to fix it first..Kids they can break anything..there was more crap on this brick than “Carter has liver pills”..lol

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

u serious

its football.. im sure if he had a concussion and was weak and couldn focus than you wouldnt have seen the reaction from the teammates like they did. But daym, hes fine..just stitches… When i watched it on tv..it was actually funny to me too! he got smacked around like a rag doll . You could tell he was fine how he got up and was going to the sideline.

the team is a family. u can joke fam!!

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Aug 19, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he was an NHL player

He’d have been back the next night playing, maybe even the same night.
 I think it’s Bomar’s big chance to get the reps to show something. Go get em’ BO!!
it might disrupt the rhythm of camp for the O and D a little, but no big deal really.
 And Eli will get his reps in the next couple of weeks to stay sharp, he just might not play the next couple of games since they don’t count.
 Also, the equipment manager will earn his keep trying to get the helmet to fit well while keeping pressure off that area.

by ronjohnson on Aug 19, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference is that

no NHL player has 11 guys gunning for you. In Rex Ryan’s blitz-heavy defense, any one of the 11 defensive players can be going after the QB.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 19, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key word: "probably."

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes probably..I am certainly not a prophet..lol

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Aug 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I agree with Andi...

These guys have been sharing a huddle together for the last 3 or 4 years now. They won a Super Bowl together, they eat out together, they raise eachother hands in glory, and lean on eachother through defeat. I’m sure they have created a bond that you and I could only wish to fully comprehend.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Danka!

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

YO

where’d you find the pic? I couldn’t find it anywhere!

Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan

by Willgfass on Aug 19, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

third that.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 19, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way off Base...

This the way that OL is. Don’t read into it, its a Joke.

by dubsrub on Aug 19, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

and if it wasn't a botched play...

he probably wouldn’t be joking with the bandage since its the OL’s job to protect against those kind of hits. They’re just having fun with it.

If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.

by total hermination on Aug 19, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what I bring and I know what I'm capable of doing

then why hasn’t Moss displayed it more consistently?

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Aug 19, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, ability and results are different

Good attitude if real but in the end, results matter and he has little to show over the years. If all stays the same, I would be amazed and totally annoyed if they use a roster spot for Moss. Wish him well elsewhere but this is about a team and winning, not touchy feely “I am beautiful no matter what they say”. As someone once said to me “Execute or be executed” ’Nough said.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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