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Giants Training Camp: It's Bomar Time!

Meet your new starting quarterback for the New York Giants ... Rhett Bomar. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is Bomar Time!

Bomar is the only healthy quarterback the Giants have heading into Saturday's preseason game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bomar was the only quarterback practicing Wednesday afternoon for the Giants, and he may be the only one cleared to play Saturday night.

We know about Eli Manning and the famous 'Cut,' which, incidentally, Manning refused to show off on Wednesday. He wore a baseball cap which covered his stitched up forehead during a media interview early in the day and during practice later in the day. Coach Tom Coughlin said Wednesday Eli will not play Saturday. Backup Jim Sorgi apparently has a shoulder injury -- possibly the same shoulder he hurt last season. He was non-committal when asked if he could play Saturday. He did absolutely no throwing during Wednesday afternoon's workout at the University at Albany. Coughlin was uncertain about his status, according to reports.

So, Wednesday was Bomar Time during Giants Training Camp. Manning said he expects to practice Thursday, but didn't seem likely to play. Wearing a helmet is an issue as it would rub on his stitches. So, Bomar Time is likely to extend right through Saturday evening against the Steelers.

Prior to practice Wednesday, Bomar was besieged by the media, to the point where he had to climb the podium generally reserved for players the media most wants to speak with. Telling because I think it might be the first time in the entire camp anyone has spoken to Bomar.

Star-divide

"I need all the reps I can get," Bomar said. "Getting more reps this training camp than last year, but still limited. all the reps I can take I'm happy to take 'em."

Bomar went 6-for-7 Monday night against the Jets for 67 yards and one touchdown. He also had a 22-yard scramble.

"I felt comfortable out there. It was fun to get out there and play again after a year," Bomar said.

Bomar is looking forward to the additional playing time he appears likely to get Saturday.

"It's my opportunity to show the coaches what I have," Bomar said. "I have to be ready to produce when I go out there."

Bomar spent most of 2009 on the practice squad, and was active for the final regular season game. He says the year of experience and study has left him more prepared.

"I feel like I'm more comfortable in this offense this year, making smarter decisions, and I feel like I can make the throws," Bomar said. "It's night and day. When you look at this offense, it's not easy and there's a lot of stuff on the quarterback.

"I'm still learning. My second year in the system, last year your head is spinning a little bit. This year it's a lot different."

Practice Notes
  • Many of the Giants' injured players were back in action. Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum, Tim Brown among them. Sitting out were Manning, Sorgi, Chris Snee, Michael Johnson, Jerome Johnson and Jake Ballard.
  • The Giants did a lot of shuffling with their outside linebackers Wednesday. Rookie Phillip Dillard took several steps on the strong side with the first unit, and veteran Gerris Wilkinson also got a couple. Wilkinson even stepped up and made a nice run stop on a stretch play for Brandon Jacobs, shedding a block from Boss. This is purely speculation on my part, but you have to wonder if this is a sign that the Giants are unhappy with the progress of second-year linebacker Clint Sintim.
  • Two interceptions (of Bomar, of course) by middle linebacker Jonathan Goff. One came on a deflection at the line of scrimmage. The other came on a bad throw by Bomar, who simply did not read the coverage properly and threw an underneath route for Mario Manningham right into Goff's arms. With every passing day, you have to begin to think Goff actually has a real chance to hold off Keith Bulluck for the starting middle linebacker job. Goff is playing well, no doubt about that. Personally, I figured by now Bulluck would be running with the first unit, but that has not happened yet.
  • Matt Dodge hit eight punts during practice, and was all over the map. Three beautiful 50+ yard punts with good hang time, two awful punts of less than 40 yards and three punts with decent distance and no hang time whatsoever.

Back in the morning with more.

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Bomar should punt too.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 18, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Bomar

should also run back kickoffs and play fullback on passing downs. Oh, and be dispatched into the stands to break up fights while he isn’t in the game.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and do kickoffs out of the opponent's endzone...

hey, it’s second year, no slacking off for him now. And remember he’s supposed to roll the film for the replay officials too.

by Cranky50 on Aug 18, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

At long last

What we’ve all been waiting for…
Bomar!
For a whole game, looks like
I bet they don’t run the Boomerang Play, where he catches it himself and runs for big yards
They’ll keep it under wraps, till they play a game that counts.

by blue gonz on Aug 18, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh dear

Our vaunted draft class of Sintim, Beatty and Barden is not looking too good at this point of the preseason.

We know the Giants give their high draft choices time to develop but I do feel we need to have two of them starting bu the end of the season and the third providing some production.

by G Fan in England on Aug 18, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Sintim basically has no choice but to start

so that’s 1/3.

Steve Smith didn’t “start” till his 3rd year, so was he an “oh dear”? Beatty’s in his 2nd year. They got him to take over for Diehl, but Diehl ain’t done yet.

Barden possibly will never start in his Giants career, cuz he’s got 3 young very talented players ahead of him…and that’s fine.

..also, its mid-August. Who cares who’s “starting” now? Who’s starting Week 1 against Carolina?

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

FB, if Cruz keeps on doing close to what he did Mon night,

what do you think the chances are that he’ll supplant Manningham?

by blue gonz on Aug 18, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

right away?

Zero. HAM was horrible last year pretty much, but put up over 800 yards. That’s no joke.

Lets see how Cruz does against 1st teamers before he’s supplanting any of the Giants “Big 3” WR. Cruz isn’t supplanting Barden just yet I’d think.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith

was behind Plax and Toomer so that is not the same as Sintim being behind who?

We all know Diehl is not the most gifted of OT’s so Beatty should be capable of beating him out.

Barden we need 20 or 30 catches from him this year assuming the main 3 get their numbers as well.

by G Fan in England on Aug 18, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't compare Smith's situation to Sintim

I compared Smith’s to Beatty. Diehl regardless of what he is, is an established starter…you ain’t gonna be given that spot. Similar to Amani Toomer being a tortoise by 2008, but still starting over SS12.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diehl also went to the Pro Bowl last year despite his physical limitations. Last I checked Beatty was starting against the Jets

We need 20-30 catches from why ? He caught less than 10 passes last year and the Giants Offense was Top 10 woth almost no production out the backfield. Kevin Boss is going to catch 50 balls , Smith will get 80-100 catches , Nicks is going to catch 70-80 balls and Manningham is also going to get his catches so how many times a game are we throwing the ball ?

by TheBXRepresenta on Aug 19, 2010 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sintim may not get the start in the end

He has really been a dud so far. He was very unimpressive in his game time. The fact that Dillard and Wilk are now getting some of his first team snaps when Kiwi was already getting some of his snaps tells me the coaches were equally unimpressed.

Barden is starting to make me wonder if he will even be on the roster for long. Horribly inconsistent in practice and games. Guys like Hagan and Cruz are playing better and harder and deserve the snaps he would get. If tiny Tim can get healthy again he has even been more impressive in camp. Barden has being tall going for him, after that not much.

I’m putting my biggest hopes out of that group on Beatty. In his second year he should be ready to take over for Diehl who is not a top caliber LT. If he can’t secure the LT job this year we have to consider that a major let down.

by bigblue777 on Aug 18, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sintim didn't get 10 sacks and 50 tacklse in the first preseason game

but everything the coaches have said about him in practice said that he’s progressing nicely. The only thing Kiwi, Wilk and Dillard at SLB shows is that the Giants are experimenting..nothing else.

Barden started that preseason game..not Cruz. Not Hagen. Ramses Barden started.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he have any tackles?

He looked out of place often and lost when in space. He got swallowed up at the line, couldn’t get off block and didn’t hit the hole with any authority (if he even found the hole). You can experiment with guys during the second team or third team snaps. That’s where Tolly is even seeing some time at LB. If guys are getting first team snaps there is a little more to that than just experimenting.

We’ll see whose getting what team snaps come preseason game 2. Barden was given a huge opportunity to do something with Smith out. He failed to capitalize on that opportunity. It’s obvious the organization wants him to turn into something since they drafted him high, and they are going to give him all sorts of opportunities to succeed. However, there are guys making the most of their opportunities and at some point you have to swallow your ego and realize if the kid you drafted isn’t cutting it but this UDFA is going all out you go with the player making the most of their opportunities.

by bigblue777 on Aug 19, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sinorice Moss and Gerris Wilkinson are still on teh team

the Giants are patient, Sintim is going nowhere.

Rookie season…sophmore season..it matters, be nice for him to be a HOFer now, but the reality of the whole thing is that it takes time for many.

I don’t give a crap who starts preseason week 2 either. Who’s gonna start Week 2 of the actual season?

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 19, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

tiny tim is a fan favorite

but i doubt much else. there is always a camp hero that either doesn’t make the team, or ends up on special teams for the year. i’m thinking Tim may be it.

IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!

by wilddre22 on Aug 18, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Realistically, you're probably right,

but I’m still in the preseason i can dream can’t I stage.

by blue gonz on Aug 19, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brown

Has a chance. His camp has been every bit as good as Victor Cruz’s, with the exception of the fact he did not get to play Monday because of an injury. Don’t count him out.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 19, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing bad from Tim has been getting hurt

Up until then the coaches and reporters were raving about him as much if not more than Cruz. The guy has wheels and unlike some other receivers on the squad was catching everything thrown his way. He could be an asset in the return game as well.

by bigblue777 on Aug 19, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Beatty might, but I don’t think Sintim will, and no way Barden will.

by jessie1 on Aug 18, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

For Christ's Sake, sign an experienced punter!

Giants need to get out of Dodge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by royhobbs7 on Aug 18, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Weakness in our OL

The Jets have shown our Giants the weakest link. The OL was weak last year and still are.
We better keep three QB’s or, four, unless the OL improves dramatically the next few weeks.

by Olddiehard on Aug 18, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

We had two starters missing

while playing against the no. 1 defense in the NFL. I don’t think the performance shows that the O-line is weak.

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by GhostDini on Aug 18, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

the concern of the OL seems to be a bit ridiculous at this point. I’m concerned over the injuries, but Chris Snee is one of the best OL in the NFL…missing him is gonna hurt. O’Hara has been banged up too (did he even play?). Seubert ditto.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention

Beatty really looked good against the Jets

by Flynner on Aug 18, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you watched hard knocks last night

the jets knew we were gonna suck and brought the house on punt block.

by ryanwk628 on Aug 19, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

they knew we were gonna suck

and still lost by 15? So much for their SuperBowl party. The regulars at Fatso Fogarty’s got all excited for nothing.

by Matt V on Aug 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that one play

It seemed like the special teams coach with the bionic leg called it.

by ryanwk628 on Aug 19, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally I agree

I think the biggest weakness is the Oline. I thought it was a big issue last year and I don’t know if a Healthy Seubert changes all that….opps…that’s right he’s not even healthy.

Quite frankly the fact that these starters are missing is not exactly reassuring….I mean, it’s not like they’re sitting out because they just don’t feel like playing….they’re banged up, they’re injured. I’ve also seen how guys play when they’re banged up….sure it’s great to suck it up and play through it, but at what cost???

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

And it points to the main reason the Giants are looking to replace some starters on the O-line … they are getting old. Older guys break down more.

by potroast on Aug 18, 2010 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm with you, andi.

Sheesh, I was worried about the O line going into the draft. I hope FB’s sunny forecast proves right. It’s quite possible, but there’s plenty of reason to worry as well. The organization seems to believe Beatty might be able to take over at OLT. I’d say there’s a 50-50 chance he will (maybe 60-40.) If he does, we’ll be okay.

by blue gonz on Aug 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was looking at Oline during draft as well

hopefully everything works out in the long run.

I also like Petrus too. He seems like he’s got good potential.

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am really excited about this guy.

I was impressed with his poise when he played against the Jets. Adequate scrambling ability and good break away speed which is definitely needed when one considers the poor state of the offensive line. I just hope he is allowed to develop with sustaining significant injury. Bomar won me over on Monday and I expect a lot of good things from him.

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by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 18, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

it was a nice Hostetler moment

He’s going to get most of the reps now…let’s see if he can take that backup spot – the kid is really athletic & can do everything

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Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
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by 27Tango on Aug 18, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now is definitely the perfect time to prove himself.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rhett Bomar has the chance to prove himself where other “project” QB’s such as Mike Cherry, Tubby Lorenzen, and Andre Woodson have failed.

If Rhett Bomar starts for the Giants this week, even though its preseason, somewhere Stan White, Mike Perez and Craig Kupp will be smiling.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 18, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Have I dropped enough obscure names there?

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 18, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but

I’m interested if you know more.

by potroast on Aug 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mark Reed, Mike Busch, Jim Croccicia, Dave Walter

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm concerned but worried

Let’s say Beatty starts, then Seubert is a super sub at guard and center. If Seubert starts, then Beatty is a super sub at tackle. If Seubert starts and gets injured, then Diehl moves to guard and Beatty starts. If Beatty starts and Mckenzie gets injured, then Diehl moves to right tackle and Seubert starts at guard.

Beatty played well against the Jets. He didn’t have any breakdowns that I saw. A lot of the poor blocking was with the blitz pickup by the RBs and the lack of suitable TEs to chip/block off the edge.

Last year the Giants played with no suitable blocking TE. That’s a killer in both run blocking and pass blocking. Pascoe could be that guy.

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by GhostDini on Aug 18, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

*I'm concerned but NOT worried

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by GhostDini on Aug 18, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ur right pretty toney

I think we have the players in place to make it work…without question. But I was kinda concerned about the Oline last year, so naturally that carried over to this year. I guess I was just looking for Beatty to come outta the gates real fast this year (which can still happen….i mean, the season doesn’t start until Sept…Week 1 is all that matters), and Diehl to just solidify that LG spot.

I just wonder how the same group of guys gets better at this age ya know? especially when they are dinged up.

But I don’t know what your talking about “no suitable blocking TE”….Boss will most definitely be a better blocker than Pascoe this year….and I think he is at the least “suitable”. No?

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

TE

The Giants like to run a lot of two-TE sets. It’s good on the goal line and 3rd-and-short. They couldn’t really do that last year. Michael Matthews was released and Darcy Johnson was never a good blocker.

Also, Boss was hurt a lot last year and they had nobody behind him to replace him. Perhaps it’s because of the injuries but he didn’t have a good year as a blocker.

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by GhostDini on Aug 18, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing Bear looks like the real deal

Even after practicing to death and being the only active TE that guy went out there and played very well against the Jets #1s. I was very impressed with what I saw out of Bear. He has secured the #2 TE spot in my mind. Beckum is now just a third string gadget. What Ihave seen of Bear has even made me feel more comfortable about the beatings Boss takes. With Bear on the team the season won’t be ruined if Boss goes down at some point.

by bigblue777 on Aug 18, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

heck...Beckum is prob. the 4th string gadget now...

TC praised Chandler for just being out there and making himself available to play… I’m losing confidence in Beckum…I mean comm’n – just get yourself out there to practice at least…

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by 27Tango on Aug 18, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

the play when Bradshaw took the shovel pass from Eli

The Giants had a 2 Half Back set….no FB.

I would like to see Beckum get some looks in those types of packages. Something that he can either get out into the flat, or stay back and chip someone….

again…I don’t even really put him in the category of TE.

 he’s finally back to practice too…today i believe was the first day

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

the problem with that is

AB just showed you what he can do in those types of situations as well.

so you are 100% about being healthy and on the field to show what you can do…or someone else will.

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the first thing - just be there, even work thru little minor aches...

I’m not saying he’s blowing practice off with minor injuries, I won’t know that info..only him and the doctors/trainers, but I hear you…that’s what I’ve always wanted him to do…be that H-back in the FB role to go out on flats and an occasional backup blocker for Eli…but I think they really want him to show he would be able to do an occasional lead block in that scenario too – just so they don’t want the Defenses to pick up what plays they are going to run…at least that’s the majority of the excuse (albeit a valid one IMO) the KG and his offensive staff keep exercising…

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by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lead blocking is the issue there

If you are going to use a guy as an H back he really needs to be able to lead block. I think the H back term gets miss used a lot. People tend to slap it onto TEs that are really just oversized wideouts. That’s not what a H back is to me. H back is a hybrid FB/TE. Oversized wideouts playingTE in a spread offense are a dime a dozen to me. A true H back that can get on the end of the line and hold an edge or shift into the backfield and lead through a hole or go up the seam and catch a nice one in-between the LB and S is a much more rare and valuable player. I don’t see anything out of Beckum that tells me he can be that player. I don’t think he was menthe be. I think he was supposed to be a slot/goal line WR basically.

by bigblue777 on Aug 19, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree with everything you said

but shouldn’t they have Beckum working out with the FB/RBs also then, not just the TEs…
I don’t know if they do that now or not, I’m assuming they don’t. But, that is what I believe they should be doing with him, if they really want him to be an H-back (in its truest definition) hybrid also.

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by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't been doing anything

because he has been hurt. Now that he is back it will be interesting to see what they have him do. I think it will give us a good idea of what they really think he is. Like you said if he is supposed to be an H back he should be running some stuff with the FBs.

by bigblue777 on Aug 20, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

in 2 TE formations I’m really not in favor of Boss being the “blocking” TE…

the down side here is that I don’t think Pascoe is that guy either

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see Bear as a back up to Boss

same kinda player IMO.

You know who we need…Howard Cross

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not a bad thing

Even though I think Bear is slightly more blocker and Boss slightly more catcher, I like a 1 and 2 that are both “balanced”. It means you do not tip your hand as much. You can block with either or both and send either or both out on routes. Beckum is the waste to me because I like that 3rd TE to basically be an extra lineman. The kind of guy you bring in on goal line stands etc.

by bigblue777 on Aug 18, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all, it's a compliment to Bear...

I like him…but I think Boss may edge him out in the blocking department…at least for right now in his career.

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boss has the experience and game knowledge

I’ll fully agree with you there. I think Bear has the tools to be the better blocking TE with a little more time in the NFL.

by bigblue777 on Aug 19, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this early point, I say just get Adrian Tracy to convert and start playing TE

I mean how well is he converting to SAM? haven’t heard anything about him on that end…. I mean both positions are in need as of right now, b/c backup (even starting – somewhat, even I think it’s Sintim’s to lose) SAM is still open & TE’s – well we all know what’s going on there…
I say give him a shot at TE, he did say it brought him back to his H.S. days.. & he can catch…so see how he blocks…

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Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
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by 27Tango on Aug 18, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they're moving AT

not anytime soon. They’ll at least give him 2 years IMO to convert to LB.

They said Tollefson was taking reps at TE and I think that’s a direct result of too many DE’s….but realistically we don’t have the talent to convert anyone to TE. Unless of course you are talking about Petrus or Whimper who actually did that in college.

The problem there is that I think they want to see what those guys can do at G. So we may have to just make due

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tracy has practice squad written all over him

I think him and Tolly playing TE was simply about having bodies to go through the motions with because Bear was the only healthy TE and they wanted to practice 2 TE sets etc. Tolly taking reps at SAM is a result of too many DEs and not much talent at SAM. Seems logical that when you have a quality dependable backup like Tolly and his position is getting crowded you look to see if he could help be a dependable player for another position that is much thinner. I have to say though Tolly did well in the preseason game at DE when we were playing our twos and the Jets still had their ones out there. I know he blocked a pass and I think that was when the ones were still in, but I’m not positive.

by bigblue777 on Aug 19, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was in the 2nd quarter

so, yeah, their 1’s were still in. He’s very solid. Agree, Tracy will be practice squad material…

"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
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by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see Bomar earning his paycheck

A little different from his days as a car salesman in Norman, OK.

by Bumpskier on Aug 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

One major thing to remember about Monday’s game…. Neither team took the time to “gameplan” for the other. In that situation, a sophisticated blitzing defense (the Jets) always has an advantage over a “vanilla” offense like the G-men were running. If we had schemed for the Jets, we would have been much better prepared to attack their press coverage and blitz packages. Consider the success that we did have throwing back shoulder fades once KG got upset with all the blitzing. The broken play to Bradshaw and Bomar’s scramble are other examples of how the blitz can expose your defense to big plays. Our entire offense will improve when we begin scheming for specific teams.

by Eli Van Pelt on Aug 18, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I am not worried about the o-line...those warriors will be ready..

the defense can’t put pressure on the offense..that is a concern

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by Bobbiblue on Aug 18, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Scary with only one QB. Not crazy about Sorgi or Bomar. I wouldn’t mind a veteran like Garcia as a backup.

by jessie1 on Aug 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't wait to see how Bomar plays

I wish Eli could take a few snaps too, but its for the best. If Bomar goes down who’s the emergancy QB? Or are the Giants gonna call a guy off the street this week to be the #4 guy? Do we have another QB on the practice squad?

by Big Blue in tx on Aug 18, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

What Happens if Bomar gets ........

Who is backup to Bomar if he has to sit out a drive or two? Sorgi? Am sure Eli will step in too if needed. Can a player still play after it has been said he wont play but then go get taped and suited if the team needed it later?

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by BB1156 on Aug 18, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

You either have an emergency QB who is some guy playing another position that can “play” QB for you (some guy who played QB for some college or high school ball). Which can be ugly, but has been done. Remember Cody Picket of the 49ers. He was on the special teams kicking squad for one play and was playing QB the next. I think he plays QB in the CFL now. the other option is we drop someone from our 80 man roster and go pickup another QB to get us through.

by bigblue777 on Aug 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

If you ever have played Madden and only keep 2 QBs, usually the kicker or punter gets the third spot.
Of course they’re rated atrociously.

Perhaps Rolle will be the emergency QB?

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by Willgfass on Aug 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And so it shall be remembered...

That on the 21st day, of the 8th month, in the year of 2010, the Eli Manning era had officially ended, and a new era of dominance began in New York under one Rhett Bomar.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 18, 2010 10:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

What if this Bomar kid is actualliy good?

The Giants can’t put him on the practice squad. They’ll lose him.

"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck

by GhostDini on Aug 18, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Well ...

Let’s wait and see the test results on Sorgi. Bomar could wind up with the No. 2 job if it’s bad news on Sorgi.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

point taken

but if i recall you did a 53 man roster as well and I thought you carried 3 QBs as well? or am i not remembering correctly?

by andiamo708 on Aug 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

53-man

I figured Bomar for the practice squad again.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 19, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

A new slogan for this years pre-season

“he went through a battery of tests”, ive seen this on every article I read. This should be on a tee shirt

what the hell is a justin bieber?

by TheWenz on Aug 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

IT'S INTERCEPTION TIME

It’s time to see a backup playing a whole lot more then he should!!

by EJAAY on Aug 19, 2010 5:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm happy to see Bomar get the reps.

He was top 2 or 3 in the country coming out of high school. If he didn’t get caught taking money in Oklahoma he’d be on another team right now as a 1st or 2nd round pick, probably going for the starting job. He can make all the throws. If you don’t believe me, just ask him. Plus, he’s got some self-confidence. You might see a pick or two, but I’m ok with that in his 1st extended action against 1st and 2nd-teamers. He’s going to throw enough nice balls to march the team up and down the field. Not worried about him getting hurt this weekend either. He has a much sturdier build than Sorgi and gets hit less due to that quick release.

by Matt V on Aug 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Honestly though...

If Eli did go down, would it really matter who our number two QB was?

Why even keep Sorgi?

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

it's like when we had Wright and Lorenzen

I honestly don’t know who’s better….Bomar or Sorgi….

Sorgi obviously has the experience….but never was really asked to do much.

Bomar has no experience but could end up being the better player

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which brings me back to my question

Why even keep Sorgi?

It really doesn’t matter who’s better of the two, if we lose Manning the season will more than likely be lost. Lets just keep the young gun with upside rather than the career backup who’s likely realized all of his potential.

I’d rather have more weapons for Manning, or more depth on the defensive side of the ball than hold onto an extra quarterback who will more than likely never see significant playing time on the field.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

well I think it's because Bomar is so unknown

I mean we literally saw nothing last year….so it’s hard to go into the season w/ a totally untested backup.

But that could very well change these next 2-3 weeks….so yeah, if Bomar wins the job, Sorgi’s gone.

by andiamo708 on Aug 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea
I mean we literally saw nothing last year….so it’s hard to go into the season w/ a totally untested backup.

Very true.

I just don’t see the value in having two backup quarterbacks when I’m fairly confident in saying neither one of them will lead us to meaningful victory.

This situation actually worked out petty good, in that we now get to see what Bomar will look like with the first team offense against a very good first team defense for at least one week. He’s going to get a lot of playing time this season, so on the other end of the spectrum if he doesn’t impress, or at the very least prove to be serviceable, he should be gone and Sorgi can stay…either way I’m only now just realizing I don’t want to see three QBs on this roster.

"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments directed towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride after the first pre-season game of 2010.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, not a fan of 3 QBs

always wanted Bomar to outshine Sorgi (nothing against him), just that he’s fully grown into his potential and not sure he’s any better than Bomar at this point (both are fairly new to the Giants gameplans & schemes – Bomar with a slight edge for learning a whole year – albeit his rookie year with other adjustments too). It’s make or break time for Bomar…but I say they keep him anyways regardless of how well or bad he does in this next game. He does decent in the next 2 games, he’ll still be on the team IMO. Bomar’s play the next few weeks would dictate Sorgi’s future though IMO. He’s either cut or they keep him on as the 3rd QB.

"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy

by 27Tango on Aug 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lost in the hype about how the Giants O-line didn’t play well on monday is that their best player ,and possibly the best RG in the NFL, Chris Snee didn’t play. The Giants bread and butter in the run game is running to the right side behind Ohara, Snee and McKenzie. They’ll be ok.

Barden looked liked he was scared to get popped on that slant , where he alligator armed that ball and made no effort to hide it.

Eli’s injury is a blessing in disguised. Its the seond game of the Preseason and a guy like Bomar who’s got more ability than Sorgi needs all the reps he can get. I also think if a catastrophe happened and Eli were lost for a long stretch of games Bomar and not Sorgi would be the starter.

by TheBXRepresenta on Aug 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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