Giants 31, Jets 16: We've Got Victor Cruz!
Maybe Tom Coughlin was right the other day when the New York Giants coach said "Victor Cruz! What do we need anybody for, we've got Victor Cruz."
Cruz made TC look prophetic Monday night with an incredible six-catch, 145-yard, three-touchdown performance as the Giants stifled the New York Jets, 31-16.
I will be back in the morning with the 'Kudos & Wet Willies.' Gee, wonder which side of the ledger Cruz will be on?
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Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
Message to ESPN:
The Giants have actually won a Superbowl recently.
by Jonathan. on Aug 16, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
but
the Jets have already won this years SB!
by ddhamaka814 on Aug 16, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought
the jets won the superbowl last year…. week 2 win against the patriots
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 16, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
that too..so i guess technically they just repeated as champs
by ddhamaka814 on Aug 16, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Tongiht must have been the biggest upset ever.
The shitty, horrible, worthless Giants upset the Superbowl winning Jets in Jets stadium!
by Jonathan. on Aug 16, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oline...
that’s the biggest question mark IMO.
Let’s all hope Eli is fine…Blackburn is nothing serious…and no 24 hour later injuries pop up like last year w/ Boley
chase just has a sprained right knee
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
OLine - please get better
I want to see the stable of running backs make some plays
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
healthwise
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Now we will get to hear from the Jets...
…about how the game meant nothing even after all the shit their team talked.
So much fun watching those morons backtrack.
yeah but you know what, it was a bittersweet win
sweet because we have bragging rights; but that means nothing. bitter, because there ones outplayed our ones. outside of Rolle’s pick, offensively and defensively they outplayed us. although what i did see from our D is that we weren’t giving up the big plays, like last year.
i’m curious to see who ed hands out kudos to, and wet willies to. i have my opinion, but i don’t want to shoot the gap on Ed.
(pause)
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Preseason football sucks ass.
But in all honesty, it’s always nice shutting Jets fans mouths for a few minutes.
Not sure they did out play our 1st
Giants had so many injuries that you would have to say it was our 1.5s
They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works everytime.
true
but the ones that were in there didn’t show and prove. i was unimpressed with our wideouts and the lack of seperation they got from the Revis-less secondary.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
To be honest...
Their CB’s never got tested. Jet’s blitzed the hell out of us and when you’re missing your 2 starting guards and starting tight end (who’s a damn good blocker/safety valve) you’re not gonna have time for your receivers to consistently get open.
Completely different question. Any of the new defensive fronts make an appearance? NASCAR? Big Base? I thought the Giants D played pretty vanilla on purpose this game.
I'm with you, wilddre22
Our 1’s for this game looked really bad. We looked like the bad news bears out there. I don’t care about wins and losses in preseason, but I do care how our starters look. I was not impressed at all.
Our offense was bad. Bad protection. Bad pass catching. Mixing up play calls.
Our defense was taken for long drives and couldn’t get off the field on 3rd and long.
Our special teams stunk. Dodge’s punts were short with no hang time. We had trouble returning kickoffs to the 15 yard line, whereas they returned their first kickoff to the 33.
Overall, I need to see a lot better play before I start thinking we are going to be an above average team this year.
big plays
You mean except for leaving a receiver uncovered at the goal line.
i'm totally confident
that if Bullock was in the middle instead of Goff, a timeout would’ve been called.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I know the biggest kudos is going to
Victor Cruz!!! this kid stood out to me way back at mini camp, before i knew who number 3 was. it’s good to see it translate onto the field.
Sexy Rexy even mentioned him in his post game conference, saying that that’s what he said to Coughlin at the handshake. then he said, and i paraphrase “they better not cut him, or as a matter of fact, i hope they cut him. because i know one team that will scoop him up. and that’s us.”
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Everyone worried about the Oline
can we please wait until we get our two Pro Bowlers back before making snap judgements? Is it too much to ask for us to wait until three of the four best players on our offense come back before declaring this a failure? Holy Cow, it was 10-10 with 15 of our starters playing against 20 of theirs! There was no stomping, there was one team jumping out early and the other team coming back to tie it. Gee, could we stop this rush to be the first to declare the season a false hope?
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 16, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
What's the point of coming on this blog
if we can’t evaluate what happened on the field? I agree that things could and should change when everyone comes back healthy. But you also have to remember that there is a chance that everyone won’t come back healthy. So I think it is fair to judge the unit we saw last night.
Fine
I will give you that if the team is missing 7 starters all season long, and playing teams that are only missing two, we will probably look bad and have a poor record. Until that actually happens, stop acting like this game was a precursor for the whole damn season.
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
why so angry?
I never said it was how our season is going to play out. But there were definite concerns last night and the biggest bright spot was from a guy that is just fighting to make the team.
by ggggmen08 on Aug 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really do get upset
when people rush to make snap judgements. I would also be concerned IF both our Pro Bowl linemen were playing and the running game still went nowhere. And IF our Pro Bowl receiver and starting TE were playing and we still didn’t have a hot route on all those blitzes. Until that happens, it would just be nice for people to have some perspective and not be in such a hurry to pile on the negativity.
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
When we lose 8 of 11 down the stretch it is tough to get the negativity out of ones head. Solid play will do that, but I didn’t see that from last nights first string. I hope they turn it on next game and start looking like better, which will start to give fans more confidence.
by ggggmen08 on Aug 17, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let's all relax
and remember it was the first preseason game. It’s not ‘supposed’ to look perfect.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 17, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
My only point is that I’m more skeptical coming off a disappointing season and hoped we would’ve looked sharper. I don’t care about preseason results, so its just something for discussion until the games count.
by ggggmen08 on Aug 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
When we have our whole first string on the field
and they don’t give us solid play, then I will be disappointed. Let’s just ease up on all the 2nd stringers playing against a damn good defense until it actually matters.
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the defense looked a lot better. I’m sure when everyone is healthy it will be much better. The offense….wow I hope they fix that, the line was just as bad as it’s been talked about in camp. They need to fix that now! Love the Cruz kid, kinda like Jackson of the Eagles a little bit….(hate that comparison) but small fast explosive is what I mean. Everything Moss is not, cut him now!
Big Cruz!
Handling business on another level. A pleasant surprise indeed. Hope to see more of this guy on a permanent basis. Barden pissed me off. Just didn’t see enough from that guy tonight. Sintim?…thumbs up, Goth?…humbs up. Eli?…wiggle hand. Boley?…thumbs up Rolle?…thumbs up. Fewell?…to early to tell. (To be continued.)
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
you forgot Grant
“It was actually Deon Grant that made the play,” Rolle said. “He read the route, made a play on the ball. I was just the guy that was fortunate enough to get the interception. It was a great call. We executed it well and it just allowed me to be in the right spot at the right time.”
from giants.com
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Grant?...thumbs up.
ST surprised me as well. We might just be okay in that area.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
good job guys
Cruz was just too much for us. You can’t stop, you can only hope to slow him down. Rolle with the immediate impact, and JPP nice move on Woody. Sorry for the hit on Manning, hope all is well with the kid. Preseason sucks that way.
Hope we get another crack at you guys late in the season :)
España 2010 Campenoes del Mundo!!!
would be nice if we met that late in the year...for the city :)
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
You guys played extremely well.
Exceeded my expectations. I will keep an eye on you during the regular season but there has been significant improvement since last season.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
both teams show promise
It’s preseason though (not taking anything away from you guys though). Both teams can take something out of this game, and correct those issues that came up. I see both these teams winning their divvisions. And then the real hype will begin.
España 2010 Campenoes del Mundo!!!
I am going to take some guesses
Kudo -
Cruz that was a no brainer (I declare Moss officially gone)
Rolle – That was a sweet INT and run
Wilkinson – 6 tackles and a forced fumble
JPP – the only Giants sack of the game
Hagan – some nice catches in traffic
Wet willie
Dodge – not for the blocked punt but because he couldn’t get a good one of fall night
While we are at it – special teams looked pretty bad. On kickoffs, the giants usually started at the 20-25 and the Jets were near the 30
Offensive line – Bradshaw and Jacobs had a combined one yard rushing and I put most of that on the trenches
Kwillie
Bradshaw would have gotten a wet willie for his running but that shuffle pass was awesom
To be fair to the o-line,
three of Brandon’s runs were goal-line when the whole world knew he was getting the ball. Same play Eli got hurt on trying to switch. The announcers noted that Sorgi and Bomar both threw td’s from the same set. I chalk that up to Gilbride’s vanilla play calling. Unfortunately, unlike the D, the offense will go through boring, predictable play-calling sequences all year.
on the plus side of things
Beatty looked good at LT the entire first half.(I’m rewatching this on DVR right now and am at the half) I didn’t see him blow an assignment throughout against their number ones. I think there is hope for this guy yet.
Def. played a conservative pass defense for most of the half, and we really brought very few blitzes(anyone who went to camp will tell you this is not indicative of Fewell’s style so far) I think there was alot of zone assignment work being done and the LB’s as a whole I thought played a good half, especially Goff.
And lastly, the football gods may be on our side this season…. how the hell Eli isn’t dead is beyond me
+1 on Beatty and
with the Zone defense, he’s prob. keeping it vanilla but maybe also seeing what he can get from individual guy’s abilities if put in that situation…
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Giants O line was bad
Good news………..JPP had a sack, giants only sack, Joseph and Dillard had 4 tackles each…….at least the rookies played good, but Cruz played great………he should make the team……….Go Giants!!!!!
didn't think the O-line was all that bad
There wasn’t a great push on most runs, but then again they blitz so often we were forced to go into some different plays and blocking schemes, quick hitters and misdirections, thought we looked good on screen plays, and good enough on passing downs… the Tackles especially (anybody catch Beatty flying down the field on that Bradshaw flip play)
As for the bloodied up Elii play, I looked at it a few times… and Eli was the only one who reacted as if it was a passing play. The left side of the line fired off into the endzone taking a couple of Jets with them, Jacobs was obviously thinking run and the wideouts both kinda jogged fades to take the corners with them. End result… we gotta get everybody on the same page
Was Manningham demoted?
How come he didn’t start alongside Nicks over Barden?
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
Two reasons
One, he has not practiced a whole lot. Two, its preseason and they are trying to find out how much Barden can help.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 17, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The Barden question may have answered last night.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Barden
would make a great volleyball player. There is a sport where being super tall/athletic helps AND you dont have to catch the ball
Giving up on him?
After 1 drop and 2 catches? Clearly Eli likes the kid. 3 throws to him in very limited action.
no way
Id love for him to work out. Im not just as high on him as I was in camp last year. JR and TC both say they expect picks in the top 3 rounds to help right away. This guy didnt even make the team. This year all I keep reading about are his drops in camp.
hadn't heard about the drops in camp.
as for last year, he came in with limited experience with a pro-style offense coming from Cal Poly. they planned on working him in sometime during the season. as it turned out, Smith, Nicks, Ham and co turned the receiving corps into a team strength so they didn’t have to rush another young guy. i don’t read that as a failure on Barden’s part.
If he gets moved down to no. 4 WR
I’m bringing a group of old church ladies to protest outside training camp.
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
isn't there only 3 practices left at UAlbany? you got to give those
church ladies at least 1 day notice. :)
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
he's not getting moved....
1 more drop and Barden is going to get nominated to go in front of the firing squad….
Damn, we have some talented Receivers.
Think about the possibilities is mind boggling!
checked out the gang green post
didn’t really understand it. they said giants can brag that their 3rd string is better than the jets 3rd string.
but the jets played their starters against backups and didn’t really accomplish anything. i think its a pretty positive sign that the giants backups played so well against their first team. the defense in particular, because that shows that the system is working, not dependent on the players.
Yeah, but the players do play a role in the success of the system.
That Eli play is a perfect example.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
And theyre pretty sensitive over there...
like, say for instance, if i stopped by there and said, “What? No pictures of the crimson masked-Michael Phelps-looking QB of yours?” They’d ban me.
Again.
Not like the folks here.
Yall take it in stride;)
#9 has the most incredible 4 yard gain in the history of the NFL.
Guys
First, you must be a member of any SB Nation site to comment there. Second, we don’t go around to other sites looking to stir up trouble. Class, people. Act with class. I really don’t care what you think of other sites.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 17, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
hard to resist
after all the trash that team talks, to not say something that pours a little salt in. But I guess we once again hafta be the bigger brother in this whole “rivalry”
Right.
as Ive said before, there is class here, over at our site, and i havent seen a true example of a lack thereof from the hogs..
but when you take time out of your day to post a celebratory article about a season ending injury on another team, or spend 500 words talking ish about another teams KICKER..
youre represeting your city, your time, and your readers. Id say those guys do a spot on job of that.
#9 has the most incredible 4 yard gain in the history of the NFL.
Kudos
To the guy in the Toomer jersey who made the Jets guy in the fire hat go ballistic and nearly start crying because he interrupted his chant.
Outside of the obvious Cruz choice, I thought Dillard showed some good energy and when fresh, Linval Joseph showed some decent penetration into the backfield. JPP has some raw athleticism. I was more impressed with his move to get back onside than his sack.
by malapraxis on Aug 17, 2010 7:02 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I was just
coming on here to comment about that. Its weird to see the ‘home regulars’ from both teams in the same crowd. Can you Imagine if the Raiders and the Eagles shared a stadium? THAT would be awesome
hilarious moment...
and JPP…man he looked like he was slipping and sliding back and forth….utter amazement – I don’t even think that was a penalty…he didn’t touch anyone and they hadn’t snapped the ball yet..
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Unabated to the QB
as soon as you get past the OT, even if you are scrambling to get back.
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
completely forgot that rule existed
or maybe I just never liked the way it gets enforced…
I definitely see the need for a rule like that, but for it to be called in that scenario where it was clear JPP gets back on sides and was not even half way to the QB…. auugh – I hope the referees are up to PAR this season.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
HAHAHA, Funnnn-neeeeey!!! Fireman man Joe threw some punches at him too.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You know...
That Giants fan got kicked out of the game. Not by security, but because “someone in Jets management” personally made the call to have it done (or so I heard on WFAN this morning when they interviewed the guy). Kind of bull shit considering Firecrotch Ed was the one initiating physical contact.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
See my fanshot
That guy’s a hero. Someone should buy him tickets
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
The best part about the whole situation is...
If you’ve ever been to a Jets game you know he was on the big tron for that….steeling the Jets thunder, if only for a moment.
Truly a wonderful thing to behold.
"my vow of silence is over..... I’m sick of it….and I hate that dopey bastard"
- Highly revered BBV poster andiamo708 on his vow of silence regarding negative comments towards New York Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride ater first pre-season game of 2010.
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 17, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
yeah it was on one of the youtube videos.
I used to be neutral to the Jets. Now… I hope they crash and burn.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Forgot
Bomars got an arm on him. Cruz made Sorgi look decent .Kudo to Kareem McKenzie for singlehandedly moving the line into the end zone for Jacobs. Last thing we needed was to get stuffed on the goaline after Rolles pick.
Bomar is the pre-shellshocked version of David Carr.
Without that no-show job scandal in college, he’d probably be at least fighting for a starting job somewhere. Quick release with strong, accurate throws. Showed nice speed for a qb running up the seam of the blitz, too.
Sorgi
thorws a few too many touch passes for my liking. And had Cruz not made an amazing catch on that one on the right side, we would all be bitching at Sorgi for throwing to a guy so tightly covered.
was it Jeff George who use to throw like that?
Bomar’s arm is a lot better
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
The OL deserves to be shown some time for judgement...
Chris Snee and Shaun O’hara are taken for granted sometimes…but they’re All-Pro caliber players for a reason. Speaking of All Pro caliber…Steve Smith. Does he drop that opening pass from Eli like Pharoahe did?
The D didnt look to great either, but its gonna take some time to gel. New DC, new DL coach as well. They didn’t look too bad against the run, and I think when they did look bad generally Rocky Bernard was in the game.
Vic Cruz looks very good. I hope he’s not just a one game wonder. If he’s really gonna make his mark, he’ll do it on punt returns. He was back there, but the ball was too close the the boundry to do anything.
They could’ve found another Hixon with Cruz, tho I think he’s much more explosive and seems a whole lot less frail then Hixon.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 17, 2010 7:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts
I was on the Gang Green SB Nation page and it’s funny how after the Jets lost, that game was no longer important to them. Hmm.
Anyway, as crazy as this sounds, I thought our starters didn’t do too badly. Sure the Jets looks dominant as times with their pass rush and defense but we didn’t even have all our starters playing in this game. I’m sure they feel good about dominating our 1AA squad. But how do you explain us still hanging in the game before Eli was taken out?
Then on top of that, the Jets still kept there starters a bit longer against the Giants B squad and we were still in it. And finally, with their backups, our backups blew the game out of the water.
Sure at times we looked shaky, but I’m still hopeful it will come together.
Jets Fans
I was on the Gang Green page last night. It was comical how they went from PUMPED for this game before the game started to this game was meaningless after the game.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Loved the rookies...
Dillard was flying around. I loved seeing his speed at the LB position. JPP gave a nice glimpse of his pass-rush skills. He also showed nice pursuit and almost caught the back on an outside running play near the far sideline. The Anvil was a beast! He got some good inside push on pass plays. On a couple run plays he held his ground when the rest of his linemen were pushed back. He shed the block and made the plays. Of course Victor Cruz wins the gameball. If he gets cut and they keep Moss again, I’m not watching Game 1, out of protest.
What did you guys think of Gerris? He played like a man possessed. Any chance his team-leading tackle total will boost him back up the depth chart?
Wilkinson
he has to stay relatively injury-free, and keep playing and playing with consistency to what he did in that first preseason game…then he might have a chance.
Dillard got beat bad one play when he covered the TE one on one.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
ONE QUESTION GUYS?
Sorgi or Bomar?
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions
Cruz.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. Silly.
A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I'ld take Bomar too..
but I would be surprised if the Giants don’t keep 3 QBs on their roster…I mean we could lose Bomar if they don’t do that. Esp. since right now, as I see it they are closer to being on PAR. Both guys did well in this first preseason game. I do like Sorgi’s experience with being a backup, although for a different offense, but he looked good back there…. more so then what I thought would happen.
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
Based just on last night?
I like Bomar. He has more zip on his passes and without Cruz bailing him out, we would all be questioning Sorgi’s decision making
It's only preseason......
but I am very concerned about the kick off/punt return game. Did they ever got the ball over the 20 during the return.
It fluctuated around the 20 yard line on kick returns.
Don’t know why…nobody staying on their blocks long enough??? We’re so going to miss HIXON!
"Talent wins 9 games
Discipline wins 11 games
Leadership = World Champions"
-2010 Giants Philosophy
ESPN
I give them a huge Wet Willie, especially Teddy for his post game rant about the Giants going “through the motions”. You think he still remembers us ruining his perfect season, his face was getting all red just talking about the Giants. It must be hard to suppress that hate.

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