Giants Training Camp: Saturday Morning Notes & Quotes
by Ed Valentine on Aug 14, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
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PrintOne of the questions New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin was asked Friday was who he would use to return punts and kickoffs during Monday's preseason opener against the New York Jets.
"We want to take a look at Danny [Ware], Andre [Brown], and I want to take a look at, if [Victor] Cruz is ready to go, we'd like to take a look at him. We just have a couple of nicks that cause us not to be able to do it the way we want to," Coughlin said. "Punt return, I'd like to see Aaron [Ross] back there, [Victor] Cruz can do that, too, I really don't know who the third will be right now, let's see who's healthy enough to be back there but we've rotated a bunch of guys in there."
One of those nicks is Tim Brown, the undrafted free agent wide receiver from Rutgers. Brown, who has flashed tons of speed and a surprising ability to get open despite being just 5-foot-7, 165 pounds, has groing and hamstring injuries that will force him to miss a game that would have provided him a great opportunity.
Back to Cruz for just a second. He struggled with catching punts when I was at practice Thursday, and apparently had some difficulty Friday morning as well. Cruz returned 16 punts for UMass last season, however, so perhaps he is just showing a little rust since Thursday was the first time he had caught punts with the Giants. Cruz averaged only 4.3 yards per return last season for UMass, by the way, so I would not expect much sizzle from him as a returner. He returned three kickoffs for a total of 66 yards while at UMass in 2008.
There will be a dozen or so Giants unavailable Monday night, and Coughlin said the remaining players understand the opportunity they have been given.
"The guys that are practicing realize what has happened to the depth and the extent to which they'll have opportunities," Coughlin said. "They're going to have to rise up and understand that this is a real chance for them."
- Writing for The Sporting News, Mike Florio says the battle for New York between the Giants and Jets is the No. 1 story of the upcoming NFL season.
Though they won't play each other during the regular season, the joint tenants of the new Meadowlands Stadium have developed all the tension of twice-a-year division rivals. Plenty of people quickly are tiring of the spotlight-seeking Jets, and plenty of those people work for and/or root for the Giants.
So it'll be interesting to see whether the team that won a Super Bowl three years ago will fare better this year than the team that has called its shot in unprecedented fashion, laying claim to the Lombardi Trophy even before the first preseason game was played.
- AOL Fanhouse says the NFC East is overrated. Based on the results of the past few seasons, Fanhouse has a point.
- Remember that you can still listen to Thursday's episode of 'New York Giants Talk.' Lots of good stuff in there from Pat Traina of Inside Football and JohnB of GangGreenNation.
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Not overrated
The NFC East isn’t overrated : it’s an average division and everybody knows it.
Kinda like the way BJ isn’t an overrated player.
if the East is average
Then the rest of the league is way below. I can quote many stats that back my claim to the East being the best. What can you back your statement up with?
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Aug 14, 2010 9:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Poor POs
I don’t consider that the NFC East does particularly well in the Play-offs nor do the team stand out when it comes to out of division wins.
I’m not talking over the last 50 years obvisouly …
I don’t think there will be a WC team in the NFC East in the upcoming season.
Link below ...
I read the BTB article link below, I may have to think about that again ^^
I disagree with the fanhouse article
Unless proven otherwise this season, the NFC East is the best
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
NFC East has sent 2 teams to playoffs last 5 seasons
On season sent 3 teams to playoffs
I’d like to know which division was better than that?
I guess 2 consecutive seasons with no team having a losing record, followed by a season with one team actually having a losing record is a big drop off. NOT
It is certainly a division in transition with big changes for most of the teams in the past season or 2, but I suspect if you transplanted a team from NFC EAST to any other division they would be in the playoff hunt. (and that includes Washington)
Last year has been decried as the worst by Giants critics, but they were in the playoff hunt until the last week of the season. Compare that to other 3rd place teams. They consider that a great success.
NFC East has the Most Superbowl appearances and Superbowl Championship victories than any other division.
We send multiple teams to the playoffs pretty much every year. This is the division where New York Football Giants are and that makes it the best division in football. Long live the New York Football Giants.
Being a New York Football Giants fan or a player is not a label but it is a calling!
Let Us Start A Movement: Bring Back Tyree and Get Rid of Moss!
Give Barden the ball!
by BB1156 on Aug 14, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
As much as I hate crediting a fan of the Cowboys
this guy on BTB has it nailed
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/7/21/1576387/the-beasts-of-the-east-why-my
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone who thinks the NFC East is not the toughest...
Is nuts
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
They don't call it...
…“the Beast” for nothin!
by Step up and make big plays on Aug 14, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i was just asking about you
Been a while
by andiamo708 on Aug 14, 2010 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks Andia..Technical difficulties..lol
We have six laptops…two blew up..The wife has one for work and the kids (they can break anything), I needed to fix..I finally have two I can use while I figure out what to do with mine..So far it is looking like it is totally fried..lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Welcome back Bobbi
Been missing your take on things, sometimes irreverent and always interesting. You are one of the reasons I enjoy this site and look forward to more posts from you.
Peter King on WFAN
Peter King was just on NY sports radio. He said that the Cowboys are the team to beat right now but he’s still picking the Giants to win the division, if they’re healthy. He’s stealing my material.
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
Anyone that says the East is not the best
is simply going by last year. They were not the best last year and it was easy to see that.
This year is like many years prior; all 4 teams are pretty strong. A team with a very good QB can win any game… 3/4 teams already have established stars at QB. And the 4th is Kevin Kolb, who I think has the talent to eventually be there, especially given the system he’s in and depth at WR. He may struggle to start, or he may not. Either way, I think by the end of the season he’ll make the NFC East 4/4 in strong QB’s at the helm of each team.
What other division can say that? Maybe the AFC North with Ben, Palmer and Flacco, but other then Ben none are better or on par with Eli, Romo or McNabb.
The East is still the strongest division. Had an off year…that’s all.
practice was a wash today
They were going at 1/4 speed
BUT I got Tuck AND JPPs signature on my football
Corey Webster eludes me again!!!
by andiamo708 on Aug 14, 2010 5:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How many divison titles would New England have had..
If they had to play in OUR division???
They were a very good team in the 2000’s, but having 6 lame opponents in your division to feed on was pretty easy hoe’in
p.s.
I live in the country in Western Massachusetts and had to deal with the PATS fans bullshit ’til the superbowl!!!!!!!!!
Then they shut up
just like the yankees fans a few years before that!!!!
I dislike the Chowds as much as the next
but they beat the Eagles in one of those SB’s.
I think the NFC east has been down this decade. Only one SB win right?
We’re in a new decade so I hope it goes better. But if we have another decade with on one SB win and that’s the Giants then I’ll take it.
Problem is 4 good NFC East teams will beat the snot out of each other
and have little to give when the they face teams like the Patriots who won six games of their 16 games, by 20 something points,
If they aren’t in a dogfight to win their division,then they probably aren’t gonna get hurt.
NO?
that sounds like
the argument that was made for the NFC North for years when really…they are not that good.
just saw your replay on 8/18... sorry (if you ever read this...)
unless you’re refering to the AFC east…
NFC north vs. the NFC east is comparing apples and bananas!!!!
four shitty teams rollin around in the mud (north) vs. the east is a laugh.
Do you believe in miracles?
I’ve been clamoring for Kiwi because I never thought that Osi would ever check his ego long enough to see the truth about his game. It seems like the impossible has happened and a humble and contrite Osi realizes he error of his ways.
He recalls allowing a 34-yard run in the season opener against the Redskins when he failed to slant to the right with the rest of the defensive line, thus leaving a gaping hole for Clinton Portis. One week later, he did the same thing to leave a hole for the Cowboys’ Marion Barber to pick up 27 yards and then followed tight end Jason Witten into the flat on what’s called a "wrap-bend" look. Umenyiora turned his back to Felix Jones, who ran right past him for 56 yards.
"Very, very embarrassing play," he said, adding: "I had some bad games. Against Dallas, I played terrible and against Denver, I played terrible in that game as well."
I still think Kiwi starts and has a big year but Osi’s comments have tempered my conviction. Osi has his speed back and his mind is finally right. I pity the O-lineman that has to block either a contract-seeking Kiwi or a respect-seeking Osi.
"Make sure you don't Dez Bryant me." -- Justin Tuck
we haven't seen
Osi be successful without Strahan on the other side of the ball. Was he the benefactor of so many 1 on 1 match ups with Strahan or is he good enough to take the double team and allow the rest of the line to compete. Last year he was dominated by 1 on 1 match-ups.
I think we’ll find out he’s an average DE and need to resign Kiwi. I think moving Kiwi is just a strategy to make resigning him a little easier.
at least he's being honest...
the truth is, no one has a crystal ball…no one knows what Osi will be moving forward (maybe except for Osi himself…and I’m not even sure about that). But at least he’s being rational
He played like hot garbage last year….a lot of guys did.
I have maintained that he deserves another year on the surgically repaired knee…. and that he’s earned it.
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