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Injuries Already A Giant Concern

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An abundance of injuries was, as we know, among the factors that destroyed the 2009 season for our New York Giants

We know that the 2010 season has already seen its share of misfortune. The horrific car crash involving third-round pick Chad Jones, the season-ending knee injury for wide receiver Domenik Hixon, and the torn pectoral muscle that has backup offensive lineman Kevin Boothe's availability in doubt among them.

As we head to training camp, it seems the Giants may also be concerned about the defensive tackle position. A recent report indicated that the Giants recently tried to re-sign defensive tackle Legar Douzable, a journeyman who spent parts of 2008 and 2009 with the team. Douzable ended up with Detroit.

It seems there might be concerns about the health of Jay Alford's surgically repaired knee, and Rocky Bernard's surgically repaired shoulder. The report indicated that both players could be limited in training camp.

When it comes to Alford there might be legitimate cause not to expect too much in 2010. First, the reality is he has never been more than a bit player. Second, remember that Osi Umenyiora did not seem like his old self last season -- his first after major knee surgery. Former NFL player Matt Bowen wrote Monday in the National Football Post about what it is like to come back from knee surgery.

I had one of my own in the 2004 season. A torn right ACL against the Ravens in Week Five. Had the surgery, rehabbed and was back for 2005. But, I would be lying if I sat here and told you everything was great—because it wasn’t. The swelling, the daily maintenance, the pain and the lack of explosion I felt when the knee got tired. And, this was with the best rehab I could get from the Redskins training staff.

Unfortunately, it is natural. It wasn’t until my last season in Buffalo during training camp, the season after that I felt normal. Yes, the tightness was still there—as it is today—but I felt more like an athlete, instead of a player coming off of a major knee injury.

All of this could means the Giants are going to need second-round draft pick Linval Joseph to assume a major role right away. It also makes you wonder why the Giants were not more interested in two-time Pro Bowler John Henderson when he was available as a free agent earlier this off-season.

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in terms of Joseph...

not only has Osi struggled but so has Cofied and Robbins w/ knee surgeries.

I’m not expecting much at all from Jay this year.

Bernard on the other hand had a shoulder….one that he hurt “working out on his own”….if he doesn’t come into camp this year ready to kill someone than I’ll be severely disappointed.

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 6, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I just re read what I wrote....

and I either had too much weekend or someone slipped me a mickey….

my post was supposed to be about Jay Alford, not Linval Joseph

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 6, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

give the job to Landfill

It might be rough for the first few games but we’ll be in a much better spot with him later in the year when it counts.

Waiting on Rocky is just a bad idea, adjust and move forward through camp as if we won’t have him.

And do ya think we could offer a Moss brother reunion for the malcontent, Fat Albert?

by Flynner on Jul 6, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Not to concerned

As long as Canty, Coefield & Joseph are healthy and ready to go, im fine, i actually want the starters to be Joseph @ the Nose and Canty @ the 3-tech, with Coefield getting a ton of snaps off the bench and in certain packages, I dont expect Alford to play much anyway, especially since he was a 3rd dwn DT before and now i dont see us having much opportunity to play him on 3rd dwn with the addition of Joeseph, and JPP who i think will slide inside with Tuck on 3rd dwns so that Kiwi and Osi can rush from the outside…… Rocky would be a great backup if he is healthy but im thinkin we just need some camp bodies at that position so the others can maintain their health.

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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jul 6, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm on board with this

Proceed as we’re not expecting much from Alford and Bernard and if we can maintain health amongst the others, we should be in good shape. Anything from Alford or Bernard will be an added bonus!

by Hootman on Jul 6, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

crazy that a FA like Bernard

is now looked upon as nothing more but an added bonus.

we gave this guy 4 years – 16 million….and this is what we get in return???

I’m starting to wonder if keeping an old Fred Robbins would have been a better option.

4 Million a year to a guy who is considered an “after thought” doesn’t sit all that well with me.

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 6, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, hindsight as they say etc.

But at the time, Bernard seemed economical compared to Canty and Haynesworth’s deals, so i can’t fault JR. On the surface, and a little deeper, moreless an added DT to safeguard against any set-backs that may have occured from Cofield or Robbins surgeries.

In a nutshell though, across the whole DL, there was a lot of misfortune. Injuries and players coming off surgeries made this unit less than effective.

It’s a new year and if everyone can stay healthy, or is close to 100%, then i really don’t see how Bernard can make an impact (looking at you Joseph)?! The money/production ratio really doesn’t bother me, as long as we don’t have to rely on him!

by Hootman on Jul 6, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting to sound like the same verse from last year

injuries start to pile up, get heavier during camp, and then end up being ridiculous by the 1/4 mark of the season. Some change in luck in that area would be nice.

by brisulph on Jul 6, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

concern is to be expected.

There have been a significant number of injuries to players who have already proven the impact on the field; aside from relative rookies. I can’t say that I am optimistic either. I can onky wait and find out in the season. keep my fingers crossed and hope we do well. I am at Kings Dominion in VA right now. Wear the away jersey laughing at all of the haters.

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by LoNJDTechnology on Jul 6, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I saw Alford in the 2nd half of a SB 42 replay...

if we could get just some of those bull rushes late in the game as a compliment to the defensive line bench it will be worth it. I keep hoping we see that Giant defensive force again.

by SJBBfan on Jul 6, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

What a bummer about Chad

especially since he was a rookie. He dosent have any game checks to fall back on. I really hope he had insurance. More and more college athletes are getting it these days once they have a sense of where they will be drafted. It pays you if youre hurt and cant work.

Richard Salgado is a friend of mine and his company Coastal Advisors protects a lot of professional athletes, including a bunch of guys on Big Blue. Its something to think about when you consider how fleeting an opportunity like playing in the NFL is for these guys

by ryanwk628 on Jul 6, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

speaking of Osi

I just turned the radio on, and he’s co-hosting the afternoon show on espn new York with don legreca and Bonnie Bernstein. Not saying much from the little I’ve heard, although he did dodge tiki questions. Just figured any blue fans in the area would be interested in this, I think there on til 7.

by wilddre22 on Jul 6, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

and what do you guys really expect from Osi this year?

I got BLASTED before last season when I called Osi over rated. I always thought he disappeared in games and the 13 sack season stemmed from a really unprepared Winston Justice (who somehow actually turned out to be a decent RT).

You can say he wasn’t fully recovered (and he probably wasn’t), but even now Kiwi is getting the nod over him and obviously JPP wasn’t drafted to replace Tuck….

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jul 6, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Over rated?

maybe so, in fact osi is probably over rated. But he is still a good DE and pass rusher, and throw him into the mix of DE’s that include Tuck, Kiwi, and hopefully a productive JPP, and you got yourself a very intimidating line up of DE’s

by #56 4life on Jul 6, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got blasted

for suggesting that we trade him back in Jan. or Feb.

by GhostDini on Jul 6, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they shoulda dumped him when

all the smack-talk started coming up…dump him to move up in the draft & grab McClain

Team Kiwi

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jul 7, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with dumping a guy like Osi off a bad season

Is that you don’t get squat for them. Using him to move up for McClain was a pipe dream. Yeah I’d have endorsed it, but no, no way Raiders made that deal.

Very few guys I’d consider un-move-able. Osi definitely not one of them.

I know Lombardi claimed they could get a low 1st/High 2nd for him, and if that were true I’d have gone for it.

But he isn’t a bum either, trading him for spare parts would probably be a mistake.

by trueblue63 on Jul 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol @ "team kiwi"

i gotta say, I’m on the other “team”.

I love this topic though, it never seems to get old….another thing is the knee surgery. Just seems like every “authority” on the subject seems to agree that it usually takes 2 years to come back.

Either way, I have a feeling that I will be “team JPP” by 2011.

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 7, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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