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New York Giants News & Notes: Giants Look To Get Physical

ESPN New York has released their Giants training camp preview, and the main article talks about how the Giants want to get back to playing physical football, which they believe they got away from last year. I know it's the type of stuff football coaches and players say, but to me, being physical wasn't the problem last year - the problem was a lack of talented, healthy football players. CC Brown was plenty physical, he just wasn't any good at actually covering anybody. If the Giants hope to make the postseason this year, they'll need a healthy Justin Tuck playing like he did two years ago, Keith Bulluck to step in and make a difference at linebacker, and Antrel Rolle to do the same in the backfield. Hopefully Osi will be effective despite his hip injury and Kenny Phillips will be able to get back on the field and contribute as well. Because, ultimately, if you don't have good players out there, it doesn't matter how physical you are, you're going to get beaten.

A few more links from the ESPN camp preview:

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Just in case you were afraid I was only going to be linking you to the Worldwide Leader this morning, here's a few more links to spread the love around:

The New York Post has 5 questions with Antonio Pierce

The Long Island Press says that Tom Coughlin is ready for camp after last year's disastrous finish

Finally, the Star-Ledger has a summer questionnaire with BBV favorite Ramses Barden.

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Way to go Strahan!

Yeah, Strahan has been putting in a lot of work since he left the field. Glad to see that he still cares about the success of the team.

A game of Chess is like a sword fight....you must think first....before you move.

by LoNJDTechnology on Jul 31, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

5 Questions with Pierce
Q: So who needs to step up and be a leader out there?

A: The obvious one is Justin Tuck. He has all the qualities. But the guy that I like and would love to see step up is Mathias Kiwanuka. He’s got the background, the work ethic. He’s done everything the Giants asked — moving to linebacker as a rookie then back to defensive end. He’s done whatever the team needs and that’s what it takes to be a leader.

No worries, Antonio. Once Kiwi gets his 12.5+ sacks this season, he’ll become that bona fide leader.

by GhostDini on Jul 31, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you Strah

really, I don’t even care what position Bulluck plays. If he was a CB, a DE or a DT…I think he’d make a similar impact. The Giants could use an old guy out there, someone like Pierce, like Strahan, like Madison, McQuarters

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

anyone else think strahan is a first ballot hall of famer?

i may be a bit biased since hes probably my favorite player of all time but i really cant imagine him not being one

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Jul 31, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think there's any doubt....

No homerism at all involved there. Strah’s one of the best DE’s in the history of the game. Not gonna rank him, but he’s up there.

Just waiting the required 5 years (?) until he’s eligible is all, but he’s 1st ballot no doubt.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

2013

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 31, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiki coming up in 2012

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

tikis no first ballot

maybe a few years down the line

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Jul 31, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got the best chance of anyone in his group

which is going to be packed btw. It’s going to consists of: Larry Allen, Morten Andersen, Priest Holmes, Steve McNair, Jonathan Ogden, Warren Sapp, Bryant Young and obviously Strahan.

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 31, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, that is packed

is there a limit on who gets in at a time?

Ogden, Sapp, Strah and Allen are about as legit as anyone can get. Bryant Young was great too, tho I guess if one was left out, he’d be one. Not sure on Air McNair tho…

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure about a limit....

but yeah, I think stray, allen, and ogden could all get it their first year…..

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jul 31, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

+1000

Stahan, Allen, and Ogden should definitely get in 1st ballot. Steve Mcnair is not a HOFer IMO although i would’ve taking him on my team. Same goes for Holmes not a HOFer in my book and Sapp, Young, and Anderson all get in eventually even though Andersons a freaking kicker.

by bleedblue12 on Jul 31, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

you dont think he gets in on a sympathy vote?

Based on how his life ended?

Btw, Sapp is getting in, first ballot.

by wilddre22 on Jul 31, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope not IMHO.....

i dont think Steve Mcnair would want to get in on a “sympathy vote” and i always thought Sapp was overrated do to his mouth. I hate the whole 1st ballot BS anyway. Either a guy is a HOF or he isnt. What makes a guy a HOFer on his 4th ballot more so then his 1st? There should not be a max or minimum number of hall of famers each year.

by bleedblue12 on Jul 31, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you

I don’t think air mcnair would want to get in that way. I also agree, either your a hall of famer or your not. You didn’t put up any more sacks bt the first and second ballots. There should be no minimum, if its one that year then its one. So be it.

btw, when Sapp goes in, it will be because of what he did on the field. Four 1st team all pro selections, two 2nd team all pro selections, and second all time in sacks by a tackle. Those numbers have nothing to do with his yap.

by wilddre22 on Jul 31, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fair enough....

I cant argue the sack numbers but I can argue the all pro selections. Media favorites like Sapp sometimes get undeserved all pro/pro bowl selections. I guess ever since the whole Strahan thing Ive never liked him.

by bleedblue12 on Aug 1, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Players who Deserve entry do deserve more than one chance, IMO.

E.g., Richard Dent, Shannon Sharpe, Chris Carter. Tim Brown.
Others make it after having been passed over. E.g., Floyd Little (more than deserving for Bronco fans—he’s still a hero in Denver.)
Closer to home, there’s our own Harry Carson. I know non Giants fans have said he whined his way in, but is there a Giants fan alive who believes he doesn’t deserve it?

by blue gonz on Aug 1, 2010 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

IMO...

its a crime that all of those guys didnt get in first ballot. My problem is if theres a down year as far as potential HOFers people get in that shouldnt. Same goes for packed ballots sometimes the deserving dont get in when they should.

by bleedblue12 on Aug 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

there IS a max/min for the NFL

each year, at least 4 but no more than 7 people can be elected. So, it’s pretty much depends on when you retire. If you retire the same year as 5 other no doubt hall of famers, you might not make it in right away, but if the next season nobody great retires, you’ll probably make it in.

Really, the NFL’s Hall of Fame voting process is so much better than baseball’s.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Aug 1, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was a hell of a qb

he doesn’t need a sympathy vote. He’s no Montana or Marino, but still a HOF QB

by Giants15 on Aug 1, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

New York Post shoulda done a 6 Pack of Cold Hard Facts

B/c I’m really curious to see if he plans on pursuing coaching. I doubt position coaches make what I’m sure Pierce will be netting at the WWL, but working up to assistant and coordinator would, I’m thinking. He’s young enough to have a long coaching career, for sure. Maybe he’s biding his time for LB coach w/ Big Blue.

by YankeeDudeL on Aug 1, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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