'Over & Under': Osi Umenyiora Edition

Being totally optimistic here with some assumptions that JPP will not take away a lot of snaps and opposing offensive lines will have to pay more attention to a healthy Justin Tuck.

I think Osi is over-rated. He had the benefit of Michael Strahan taking the double team & sine Mike has gone Osi has injured or a dud.

Key to it is Tuck, like BB4L says. If teams have to pay attention to him like they did in 08, then its gonna free up a lot for everyone.

The hip shouldn’t be a problem. Pain’s lingering longer most likely cuz he’s older…that happens. If Tuck’s back, Osi’s fine…he should get over 10. I think he’ll lead the team.

Or maybe the same number, just don’t see how he musters the PT to warrant larger numbers. I’m with Blue Gonz the injury further hurts his chances.

My hope would be that we still trade him and he stays healthy enough for us to trade him for a two or three.

JPP has a solid rookie season and that Kiwanuka puts up 9 sacks with Canty and Tuck having solid years…I’d rather have 3-4 guys with around 8 or 9 sacks.

Never been a big Osi fan, but with Tuck – healthy and commanding doubles & having the confidence in how FUEL will utilize him, I think he will get double digits – if barely.

But under on sacks. Osi, IMO, is a finesse rusher. As others have already said, he thrives when attention is away from him. I question his run stop ability, esp last year when teams ran right past him as he was running up field and coming in from behind the QB.

As long as Osi is a NY Giant he has my support. Granted it will be a mind over matter thing with respect to the fact that he will be playing with a post injury riddled body but i don’t think that is a reason to feed him to the sharks. As an already proven SB champ, I think Osi will make his mark this season; making his presence and dominance felt in the backfield of the opposition’s offense once again. Injuries make it easy to condemn a player but a comeback season always restores the well deserved respect that is warranted by a player and Osi will see to it that the unbelievers return to him what is rightfully his.

I like Osi but the combination of the injury and other, younger, options is going to severly limit his playing time. When you factor in that he probably wouldnt have seen many snaps during running downs, its going to be a struggle for him to even crack last years totals. Im pulling for him, I just cant see him having a great back year unfortunately. The bright side is I have been wrong many, many, times before

But…

Nah I’ll go with that.

Under for Osi. Over for Tuck and Kiwi though.

I really have no clue how severe this hip injury is….I probably would not be shocked to see Osi get back to form….but knowing the Giants, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him get IR’d week 2….when the training staff can no longer “manage” the injury.

but I gotta go under.
Kiwi should be the starter, he’s healthy, he’s a more rounded player, he’s the better option.

Osi should be used in pass rush scenarios, 4 aces, and to spell our starters along with JPP. He’s a valuable player but with health the risks we need to limit his snaps at least through the first part of the year.

Last season coming off his knee surgery Osi had 7 sacks. As long as the hip doesn’t limit his effectiveness IMO he can pick up an additional 3 sacks off last seasons total.

On one hand, Osi has been dealing with this for a while. It’s not something new and it won’t get any worse. Maybe now that he was humbled after his silly retirement talk, he comes back with a vengeance to regain respectability and get his big contract. Even if he doesn’t start, you know the Giants could put him on the field on passing downs and Osi loves to sell out for the pass. He did that all season with a bad line surrounding him and got 7 sacks. Why can’t he get 3.0 more?

On the other hand, Osi has never been known for his toughness – physical or mental. It’s entirely possible that he can’t manage the pain, plays poorly, gets limited playing time, then complains about how the tape shows that he is indeed effective and deserves to be on the field more. I could see JPP being the 3rd DE option in 3rd-and-long situations if Osi’s hip is ginger. He has the kind of length and athleticism that can really hurt a QB who has to pass. Also, this will be Kiwi’s breakout season. Yes, on July 29, 2010, I’m predicting that Kiwi has 12.0+ sacks. Fewell isn’t big on rotations so when stronger Kiwi is putting up numbers, I don’t see him being taken out often. Tuck rarely comes out. JPP is out there on 3rd downs. Where does that leave Osi? Assed out.

Which paragraph is bigger? I say under.

Osi the Beast will be back!!!!

Even if Osi does get less reps and is only in on passing downs at least we know for sure this year he will be rushing the passer every time instead of dropping back in to coverage.

so we hope…