New York Giants' Notes: The Silly Season Is Here
July is a painfully slow month for NFL fans, and writers. You get lots of lists and predictions, and in general a whole bunch of silliness that makes diehard fans who actually follow their teams run screaming away from the television or the computer.
Read on, and I'm sure you will end up agreeing that a lot of what is mentioned below about the Giants is silliness. Nothing more, nothing less. Good, old July NFL silliness.
- NFL Touchdown has a list of guys it expects to be the top 10 impact players for the Giants in 2010. Eli Manning No. 1 if fine -- he is the team's best player. But, defensive coordinator Perry Fewell at No. 10? C'mon! Aaron Ross, who is probably the third corner at No. 2? Gimme a break! Then there is the assertion that David Diehl is more likely to play right tackle than left guard -- which is just plain incorrect. The Giants have already stated -- clearly -- that Diehl will either remain at left tackle or replace Rich Seubert at left guard.
- Clark Judge of CBS Sports has a piece on training camp battles where he says it is Diehl vs. Seubert for left guard with the Giants. The Giants have already said is not a contest. If everyone is healthy, and Will Beatty wins the left tackle job, Diehl starts at left guard. It's not a competition. It's how things are going to be. I wish these supposed 'experts' would actually pay attention.
- Our good friend 'JimmyK' from Bleeding Green Nation put together a post about the importance of left tackle in the NFC East. Left tackle is important for every team, we agree. But, Jimmy, you ignored the key fact that Diehl may not even be the starting left tackle for the Giants in 2010. By the way, why does everything in this post lead back to Diehl and where he will play?
- WhatIfSports, a site that specializes in sports simulations, has done a simulation of the NFC East season. If we are to believe the fine folks at 'WhatIf,' and I'm sorry but I don't, Dallas will go 15-1, Philadelphia 13-3 and the Redskins and Giants will finish 7-9. Like I said, silliness. I love the work done at WhatIfSports, but I can't put any stock in this simulation.
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I had the same though after reading these articles- Diehl’s situation is pretty cut and dry, however I’d love to think that Seubert is competing and motivated in regards to his position.
All in all a painfully slow month as a reader, however that ususally translates into good seasons (thanks, also, to the 7-9 predictions)
by pataroons on Jul 15, 2010 6:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wow...Aaron Ross at #2?
Good. Continue to not know who Terrell Thomas is.
If Ross gets back to 2007 form, he’ll be a great nickel corner/safety that will allow the Giants a ton of versatility on the field. But he ain’t the 2nd key cog on the defense, let alone the whole team.
Fewell is probably #2, maybe #1. Eli will get his, probably more so this year with the youngins a year less young. No one wins anything without a good defense and especially don’t win with one as bad as last year.
But please, keep doubting the Giants. They have questions of course. But at least they know the questions..unlike other teams who’re being penciled in for the SB already ( **coughDallasCOUGH*dallassHACK)
Bye, Lee :(
also I think they may be stealing from BBV
Linval “The Anvil” Joseph?
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
and..
calling Fewell “Fuel”
Albert Pujols + a glove = Ike Davis
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 15, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Re: Top 10
-How will Linval spell Robbins when he’s not on the team?
-When did Sintim switch to #52?
-How is pointing out that Brown and Rouse are gone supposed to be anything but a good thing?
Okay, here is my predictions....
The Gmen will go 16-0 in regular season, shut-out every team in the playoffs, go onto to face the Colts in the SB. During the SB, Eli throws for 550 yards, 7 TDs, 0 Ints, 125 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs, and spells Osi on defense, coming up with 4 sacks, Peyton sulks. Eli then brings peace to the Middle East and Congress votes to change Memorial Day to Eli Manning Day and he will go on to become president in 2032. That is my July prediction. Any nay-sayers?
Sounds more like Bomar than Eli...
and Bomar would have cured cancer and plugged the oil leak yesterday.
How many
picks sixs did Eli have in the SB win?
You forget to mention that Eli lead the league in kicking, punting and downing punts inside the 1 (which takes some doing when you are the punter).
Eli became the first player to be voted to the Pro Bowl at QB, DE, K, P and ST.
He also was Temp Head Coach when TC caught a cold.
Finally, he donated his next signing bonus and wiped out the National debt of the US and UK in one go.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Bomar does that for his warm up
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I am a nay-sayer...
Memorial Day will be changed to The Great Eli Manning Day, not just Eli Manning day.
Also, he will convince China to finally revalue their currency to get in step with the rest of the world.
Training camp come quick enough...
another couple of weeks….sigh
Opus smart , lascivio magis , intereo gauisus...
Matt Dodge
I’m glad to see him listed in the impact players even if it is a complete BS list. I think this guy has the biggest impact on a team of any rookie this year.
Last year it was a glarring weakness when Feagles would break out the Sandwedge on a par 5 and leave our already weak Defense with only about 35 yards to defend and 3 points on the board before they got to 1st down.
Dodge could cut us some slack when we sputter 3 and out, deep in our own end. The kid can at least give our D a fighting chance to keep an opponent out of our end and gain a little field position.
If he lives up to his college averages, I think we are a better overall team coming into the season.
This
Loved Feagles from our 40 on (obviously), but anywhere farther into our own territory and we were completely screwed…such a disadvantage that I hope is erased by the rook this year.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 15, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
yea
I love Feagles as much as anyone, but last year he officially became a liability. Our ground game wasn’t churning out enough first downs, and Feagles could barely get the ball back to midfield half the time. A guy with a big leg will be a nice addition this year.
2009 Did Not Happen
I watched The Blind Side the other week
It was OK. Sandra “The Nazette” Bullocks was pretty good in it. As was the lead who played M. Oher (he was better than Bullock). The rest of the actors were TERRIBLE though. The husband was terrible, the little kid brother was the most annoying little sh*t imaginable – not cute at all (which he and the directors were trying wayyyy too hard for), and the supporting teachers and school board members were horrible. The investigator woman was average, not horrible, and the project gangstas were ok too, not horrible.
Anyway, I was immediately pleased when the film began with footage of 8:49:10 AM blowin’ up Joe Theisman. I wasn’t expecting that. It was well done – they gave it good coverage and screen time including a replay and a good angle, and a clean shot of the leg break. Not that I’m celebrating Theisman’s terrible career-ending injury but it’s important history and powerful drama to show the break to show the degree of injury. Bulluck then went on to explain how this play was a driving factor for why left tackles indeed are so important and well paid as this original post notes — because it’s that important to protect the QB’s “blind side” in order to prevent a devastating Theisman-like injury to the QB.
This also makes me nervous about just removing Diehl. He’s protected Eli well thus far. Maybe don’t mess with it? Maybe make an open competition at RT instead and have Beatty possibly push McKenzie instead and let “the best man win” everywhere else? I dunno, just don’t want to give away LT so quickly to a untested guy without being sure. I guess they’ll know if he’s ready.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 15, 2010 8:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
My blackberry changes “LT” to “local time” and I didn’t catch it in the first instance….
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 15, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hereby nominate LT be renamed
to 8:49:10 AM. If nothing else, no one outside of BBV will have any idea what we are talking about.
But, Jimmy, you ignored the key fact that Diehl may not even be the starting left tackle for the Giants in 2010.
Hey Ed, thanks for the linky love (I think), haha. For the record, I’m aware of the possibility of Beatty starting this season at LT. I did another piece back a few months ago about the ages of every O Lineman in the NFL, which was sort of meant to show how old the Cowboys OL is in comparison to the rest of the league. At the time, I asked SB Nation site who they thought their starting 5 at OL was going to be. I even did it here to remove all doubt, despite my familiarity of the Giants, living in North Jersey and all. Anyway, the consensus was that Diehl would be the starting LT.
I didn’t include Beatty in this latest piece for one simple reason – I don’t buy it, so much so that I didn’t even bother including it in this latest piece…
Kudos to the Giants coaching staff for making Diehl compete for the LT job, but I’m personally not really taking that “competition” seriously. There’s no way in hell the Giants are going to replace a guy who played in the Pro Bowl last year at LT and throw an untested first year starter to the wolves to face the following list of pass rushers – DeMarcus Ware (twice), Jared Allen, Trent Cole (twice), Brian Orakpo (twice), Dwight Freeney, Julius Peppers, Mario Williams, Osi Umenyiora, Aaron Kampman, Clay Matthews, Kyle Vanden Bosch, etc etc. Beatty would have to absolutely destroy Diehl in camp/preseason for the Giants to be comfortable enough to make that change. Anything short of that, and Diehl isn’t going anywhere.
The Giants had a terrible season last year (for the Giants). This is what happens after seasons like 2009 – Players lose the right to be comfortable with their jobs. That’s all this is.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Rather ironic
That you don’t buy the dump the Pro Bowl player for a first year starter when the Eagles did the same thing this offseason at a different position.
Beatty is a more natural LT than Diehl who will be able to deal with the speed rushers much better than Diehl. As you know the LT can be helped by a TE or RB.
Yes Beatty may struggle but the change needs to happen sooner rather than later.
Finally, a tongue in cheek comment – but who are the Giants trading Osi too if Beatty will face him during the season?
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
McNabb and Kolb both had contracts that were to expire at the end of the 2010 season. At that time, there was simply no way both players were going to stay with Philly. With McNabb turning 34 in November, the Eagles know full well that Kolb is their future, and since they feel very comfortable with him taking over the reigns at QB, they got real value in a trade for McNabb now, rather than losing him for absolutely nothing at the end of the season. While the Giants may like what they see in Beatty, there’s absolute no reason to rush him to start at the 2nd most position on the football field, when they already have a way more than capable player already at that position.
In no way are these 2 situations even remotely comparable.
Yes Beatty may struggle but the change needs to happen sooner rather than later.
Why?
Finally, a tongue in cheek comment – but who are the Giants trading Osi too if Beatty will face him during the season?
Oops… Copied and pasted from my own article, and forgot to delete him.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Diehl
is not a Pro Bowl LT – he got there by default.
You only have to look at the last play in the San Deigo loss to see why he should not be at LT.
Yes he has done an average to above average job at the position, but he is better suited to the inside. Whilst Beatty is unproven at LT if he has the footwork and natural ability he will be an upgrade.
Plus – I recall your article on OL was about average OL age – Diehl will be 30 this year so what is wrong with replacing him with a younger and potentially better player.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Diehl will be 30 this year so what is wrong with replacing him with a younger and potentially better player.
30 is still fine, and that’s about the time to start putting guys in place that will eventually take over. And if Beatty truly is a better football player than Diehl and proves as much in camp… By all means, throw him in there. But to just start a guy because he’s younger and POTENTIALLY better is foolish, and Giants aren’t known for making foolish decisions.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
But to just start a guy because he’s younger and POTENTIALLY better is foolish.
Do I even have to say it?
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to copy and paste this again?
McNabb and Kolb both had contracts that were to expire at the end of the 2010 season. At that time, there was simply no way both players were going to stay with Philly. With McNabb turning 34 in November, the Eagles know full well that Kolb is their future, and since they feel very comfortable with him taking over the reigns at QB, they got real value in a trade for McNabb now, rather than losing him for absolutely nothing at the end of the season. While the Giants may like what they see in Beatty, there’s absolute no reason to rush him to start at the 2nd most position on the football field, when they already have a way more than capable player already at that position.
In no way are these 2 situations even remotely comparable.
If McNabb and Kolb’s contracts were to expire after the 2011 season instead of 2010, McNabb is still an Eagle.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
We are
basing our comments on what we hear and what we hear is that
If Beatty shows enough he will be the LT and Diehl moves to LG.
So the Giants have the viewpoint that he will be better than Diehl and in reverse logic the LT position is Beatty’s to lose.
That is not a rash and foolish decision – that is one based on what the coaching staff see in practice.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Retract
Looks like you’re already making this case twice on this thread. No need to copy and paste a third time.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 15, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
All G in the proverbial H
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 15, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think there's a larger similarity there than you think...
“With McNabb turning 34 in November, the Eagles know full well that Kolb is their future, and since they feel very comfortable with him taking over the reigns at QB”
Diehl’s turning 30 at the start of the season, he’s no spring chicken. Beatty flashed in his opportunities last season, and Seubert was injured last season, so moving Biehl inside presents a very good chance to improve the offensive line. Why not take it now? Beatty has the skills, he just needs the experience: I’d rather he get it now when we have someone who can back him up than throw him out there after Seubert or McKenzie breaks down completely and we have no other options.
“While the Giants may like what they see in Beatty, there’s absolute no reason to rush him to start at the 2nd most position on the football field, when they already have a way more than capable player already at that position.”
I’m sorry, but isn’t that EXACTLY what the Eagles did? McNabb had a quality year, and took all the blame for losses which could much more rightly be attributed to the atrocious defense (The second time you guys beat us looked like 7 on 7.) Kolb threw for a bunch of yards in his two starts, but the way he did it wasn’t that impressive: he beat the laughably bad Chiefs, and against the saints he threw for a lot of yards, but got baited by smarter defensive players into 3 INTs. I’m not saying Kolb doesn’t have talent, but he might be the second coming of Derek Anderson, who looks like a wunderkind until everyone has film on him.
Also, I disagree that the Eagles got value on Mcnabb compared to what he was worth.
As
much as McNabb killed us let’s wait and see what happens with Kolb and our defence before we get excited about the change.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, I'm sure he'll torch us
but I really think Eagles fans (and management) have vastly overrated a guy based on two games last season. I think he’ll probably have a few really big games, but I also think he’s going to be pretty inconsistent, and I don’t think the Eagles will be as good as they would have been with McNabb.
2009 Did Not Happen
"While the Giants may like what they see in Beatty, there’s absolute no reason to rush him to start at the 2nd most position on the football field, when they already have a way more than capable player already at that position."
I’m sorry, but isn’t that EXACTLY what the Eagles did?
(Sigh) No. And now we’re going in circles, so I’ll just coly and paste… McNabb and Kolb both had contracts that were to expire at the end of the 2010 season. At that time, there was simply no way both players were going to stay with Philly. With McNabb turning 34 in November, the Eagles know full well that Kolb is their future, and since they feel very comfortable with him taking over the reigns at QB, they got real value in a trade for McNabb now, rather than losing him for absolutely nothing at the end of the season. While the Giants may like what they see in Beatty, there’s absolute no reason to rush him to start at the 2nd most position on the football field, when they already have a way more than capable player already at that position.
In no way are these 2 situations even remotely comparable.
If McNabb and Kolb had contracts that ended after the 2011 season, for example, McNabb is still an Eagle.
Plus, they’ve been grooming Kolb to start in the NFL for 3 years.
Kolb threw for a bunch of yards in his two starts, but the way he did it wasn’t that impressive: he beat the laughably bad Chiefs, and against the saints he threw for a lot of yards, but got baited by smarter defensive players into 3 INTs.
So the Saints “baited” him into a Hail Mail with no time left on the clock? Bottom line is that he played very well in those 2 games. If you want to look at a boxscore and guess how he looked, that’s your prerogative. I prefer game film, which can be seen here and here, to make my judgments, and it’s pretty difficult to argue that this kid isn’t ready to go.
OK, so we’re officially off the Beatty/Diehl topic. Let’s get back on track, fellas. I can’t be debating this Kolb/McNabb stuff for 258th time.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Ok, one of those INTs was a throwaway.
Doug Farrar of Football Outsiders has an illuminating breakdown of another one, and a long TD of his:
Kolb played pretty well that game, sure. I watched it. And the game ending interception wasn’t that bad; I have sincere doubts that Eli in that same situation would have done any better. But the two prior to that were simply not throws Mcnabb would have made; he’s one of the least intercepted quarterbacks in the NFL. We’ll have to agree to disagree, and see whether your team was right when they play each other.
As for the Beatty/Diehl position battle, Diehl at is best is overmatched against speed rushers, and was drafted as a guard and started there. In 2007, Giants fans were crying that he lacked the mobility to perform at tackle, so its a credit to him that he’s done so well. But it’s a massive upgrade to the interior OL if he moves inside. Beatty is unquestionably possessed of the physical tools necessary to be a good OT. IMO, I think Diehl starts the year at LT, but Beatty finishes it there.
Diehl was pretty bad last year
Pro Bowl is nice and all, but basically for OL’s they make it on name alone. He really wasn’t Pro Bowl caliber at all last year.
He’s still servicable, but I don’t really think that Beatty’s any less of a talent at this point in time at LT. And if Diehl’s gonna move to LG, that upgrades two positions.
So you don’t have to buy it…but its most likely what’s gonna happen. Beatty held his own along the right side last year, where he’s really not suited out to play.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Here are some of the pass rushers Diehl faced last year and the number of sacks each of them had last season…
- DeMarcus Ware (twice) – 11
- Brian Orakpo (twice) – 11
- Trent Cole (twice) – 12.5
- Jared Allen – 14.5
- Elvis Dumervil – 17
- Julius Peppers – 10.5
- Will Smith – 13
- Tamba Hali – 8.5
- Shawne Merriman – 4
- Richard Seymour – 4
- John Abraham – 5.5
In my opinion, considering the opposition he faced, he had a really under-appreciated season.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
were those all against Diehl?
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Your article
had Diehl giving up seven sacks as well as various hits and pressures.
Now that maybe be good compared to other LT’s in the league – but if there is a possibility that Beatty can improve on those numbers then it is better for the team for the move to be made.
It is not about underappreciating Diehl but more about improving the team.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he could've given up a whole lot more
if it wasn’t for Eli being a slippery bastard and also getting rid of the ball quickly/under pressure.
Just him making the Pro Bowl, and mentioning the DE’s who he faced…doesn’t really mean much.
Makes him more overrated then underrated.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides the 7 sacks allowed
Diehl was up there allowing 12 QB hits and in the middle of the pack, allowing 26 pressures. Overall then, everything weighs out to be about average play for Diehl.
Not to beat a dead horse though, i can agree with everyones points and arguements. If it is Beatty’s time to take over at LT, then so be it. But, i think Beatty will really have to show he can do it. Not marginally or fractional, but on a much higher scale. Afterall, Beatty will be moreless a rookie on that side, Eli’s important side, and as JimmyK has listed the scheduled defenders, it’s pretty much a gaunlet of PB’s!
Whether or not Beatty is a natural LT, and has the potential, it’s the translation to the field that is important. With his inexperience at the NFL level at LT, i just don’t want Eli to be a pinata like Jason Campbell was for the Skins. There are learning curves, some are steep, some are shallow, but at who’s expense, that’s all!
Jimmy
Diehl was a replacement Pro Bowler, and anyone who paid attention knows he did not play well last season. He is, at best, an average left tackle. If Beatty can handle the job, he will get the job. Jerry Reese says repeatedly that guys they draft in the second round are guys the Giants EXPECT to play. So, I expect Beatty to play.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 15, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Twenty golden dinaris,
or is that too rich for your blood?
What are the odds
on Graham starting on openiong day?
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Osi?
Did I miss something and Osi Umenyiora was traded?
Or, were you including him in the list of pass rushers who will test a new Giants OT because of what will happen in training camp or the locker room?
no
Jimmy copy and pasted the list of pass rushers from another post had wrote and forgot to take Osi’s name out of the list
he's an Eagles fan...
it happens.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the article
It was a nice readout of just what these LTs are up against. It’s like a murder’s row of DEs heading our way, throughout the division. Regardless of who starts at LT for us, they’re going to have a helluva time.
Petrus
We all know he is a converted fullback – any thoughts that he could be good enough to play center and replace O’Hara in a few years.
If Diehl moves inside and Seubert becomes the back up at OG and Center, than Petrus can be the second backup at the interior positions as I assume Diehl would be the backup OT and would slide to the open position.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions
Never know
Saw a recent interview w/Petrus, and the Giants have asked him to learn the center position.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 15, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I may be a little biased since I played the position. But without a smart, athletic Center that doesnt fumble the snap, your offense will go nowhere. I hope they have a better contingency plan than Koets this year.
Charlie: I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant.
by Larry Soprano on Jul 16, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Larry, Yankee
The great Paul Brown thought it was THE most important position. When he came back into football with the an expansion team, the first position he filled was Center. Personally, unless you’re talking of a chance to grab the resurrection of Mel Hein, I think that’s a bit over the top. But most underrated? Most certainly.
This is Classic....
the article about the 10 impact players was actually over at Bleacher Report as well.
It’s the exact same article….so i simply pointed out Fred Robbins was no longer part of the team and dude lost it. accused me of being negative and looking to start a fight….all I did was say that Robbins was no longer on the team?!?!
So let me get this straight, if he would have predicted that Tiki Barber would be our #1 Breakout Player should we all stand by and agree with it?
Or how about Antonio Pierce to be our starting MIKE?
Maybe Hixon at Punt Returner too?
I just don’t get it….had i thrown a fan post up over here and made a mistake I would certainly want one of you guys to point it out.
"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708
You were just
guilty of nit picking and the guy was not honest enough (unlike JimmyK) to own up to a mistake.
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
guilty as charged....
You wanna blog about the giants a) be accurate b) expect that what your writing is now up for public consumption c) simmer down when your clearly in the wrong.
Had Ed done that he wouldn’t hear the end of it…..
like i said, i never gave him a hard time, just simply pointed it out.
"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708
Oh and by the way
if you are talking about Big Blue then you spell Giants with a capital G……..
by G Fan in England on Jul 15, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Andi actually corrected me
I thought Hamilton and Robbins had briefly played together at one time and he ripped me a new one. I owned up to my minor infraction!
Mario Manningham
“Get better than I was last year, get bigger, faster, stronger, know the game more,” said Manningham, who played in the Warren G. Harding alumni basketball game Monday.
http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/539647.html?nav=5024
I’ve been working on my “I told you so” delivery all off-season. I have to get it right for the season.
“He had a triple-double against Akron St. Vincent in points, steals and assists. That’s pretty special. Obviously him being a receiver, his hand-eye coordinator is really good.”
^
impressive….
"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708
Maybe HAM will go to Miami one day too?
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708
by andiamo708 on Jul 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Obviously, you're referring to the Heat
but there were Giants fans who were in favor of trading Manningham to the Dolphins before the draft and the Marshall trade.
kinda...
I was really referring to the Pro Bowl (tho I looked it up and apparently its going back to Hawaii…so fail by me)
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 16, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The whole LeBron thing is disappointing.
For some reason i thought he had his head screwed on straight. He has a lot of holes in his game, and his attitude tells me he’ll probably never do the work necessary to put him on Jordan’s level, or even Kobe’s.
MJ and Kobe came into the NBA with pretty weak outside shots and both worked until their long range jumpers became deadly. LeBron’s outside shot isn’t anything to write home about. I doubt that it will improve. He gives the impression that his game requires no improvement.

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