New York Giants News & Notes: Phillips To Be Ready For Opener?

No way Barber is a Hall of Famer. He was borderline, at best. However, he ended his career early (in some people’s estimation), and the fact that his image is now tainted I can’t see him being voted in. Typically people are voted in for their stats and performances not their image, but in a borderline case like Barber, I can’t see the selection committee giving him any favorable votes.
Also, good news on Phillips, I’m just worried he might have an ‘Osi’ year, in which his performance and confidence running around the field are affected by the injury and surgery.

Phillips, I would expect, would be very upbeat and positive, as he is talking about himself regarding his injury – while being as general as possible. Not trying to piss on any parade, but I’ll reserve my positivity until his statements come to fruition. I hope he makes a full recovery and never has another injury, but when I see him in a starting role, at that point I will believe it.
I think Goff played in 4 games, right? While there’s no way to use that as a barometer of success, I don’t recall being impressed by what I did see of him. I think Dillard takes the spot at some point.
Surely Jacobs wasn’t affected by anything Tiki said or did. If he was, he has been playing in the wrong town – sounds like we’re looking to blame anyone but Jacobs for having a not-so-stellar season. Accountability still means something in my neighborhood.
Barber began with the fumbling and fell out of the fan-favorite wagon, then he turned it around and quit fumbling so much, and got back into the good graces somewhat. Shortly after he retired, he started popping off on this and that about the team, and I’m sure he was crushed that we won the SB the year following his retirement. He was a good running back but didn’t have the consistency or the Super Bowl ring – he falls short of Hall of Fame creds IMO. He needs to get in line if they give it to him, as several other Giants should be far ahead of him.

Are these guys sportwriters or producers for “The View” version for men? Jacob’s performance is his fault not Tiki’s and the fact that Ganter would even suggest such an absurd propspect shows why sports writers have lost the respect that they have over the years. The only thing that the Tiki bashing shows is jealousy on the part of the bashers. As for the HOF, I don’t know. If it were up to me he would be in and that is based on his performance on the field. I wouldn’t be surprised if no elite talent came to play in New York ever again with the harsh ways in which some fans treat former NY players who have done nothing but put their all out on a consistent basis . Unbelievable.

To see Perry Fewell’s defense in action, phillips come back, and Goff go nuts at MLB

I want to see Beckum in action this year to see if the Giants have a player or not.

The more I think about it the more I see the possibility that the Giants go against tradition, that they become a pass to set up the run offense. If Boss plays well and Beckum gets some plays and Smith continues to move the chains the Giants could easily see a “posession” passing offense.

If that happens, Nicks, Jacobs and AB become bigger homerun theats.

I am conflicted on Tiki Barber. Tiki as a person, I generally do not like. He left the Giants as ungracefully and disrespectfully as he possibly could have, which earned the ire and from some, hatred of the Giants fans. Also leaving his pregnant wife permenantly made me dislike Tiki very very much. Tiki as a player on teh other hand, should be celebrated and respected, even though I dont believe he made it to the HOF level during his career. Whenever I watched Tiki play, the one thing I really loved was how after the initial hit was put on him, he still found a way to gain four or five more yards after the fact. Tiki took a lot of pressure off of a young Eli Manning by giving him a better than solid running game to rely on. Without the assurance of Tiki in the backfeild, Manning would probably have been much worse off as a new QB in the NFL. Tiki was a very good player and it is a true shame that he left with in a such a disgraceful manner, preventing us Giants fans from being able to remember clearly all the good things he did for our team.

He was getting better at the end and probably had another 2-3 years left in him given that early on he wasn’t used a ton as a RB.

The way he was running at the end there, he was definitely on his way.

But that he cut it short, I don’t think he accumulated enough stats to make it.

Playing like he did during that first game against Dallas last year. There was so much potential for him to be a force. Would love to see depth in that position for a change.

He might get in the HOF some day though his post-retirement behavior (bashing former teammate etc and his recent infidelity issues) can affect the voting. I have started to wonder if the off field issues of an active player and the post retirement behavior is going to start influencing the HOF consideration in the future. I am worried that the guidelines may get changed and some inductees or future inductees may get yanked out of the HOF like they did to Pete Rose in baseball. I hope we do not get to that stage.

The only reason a player becomes famous is because of the contributions on the field. They get inducted into HOF only because of their exceptional play making history. It has nothing to do with what they do in personal life.

As for Tiki, I was so convinced that the organization will retire his number 21 but when as a TV football personality he made those statements, he upset a lot us and probably hurt the owners of the team and all that became a bad experience for anyone who was associated with the NYG fans and organization included. Then came Kenny Philips who requested that number the very first year it was available because he wanted to wear the number 21 in memory of his mentor who wore that number for another team.

I have not given up on Tiki entering the HOF but if NYG retires number 21 it will not be because of him anymore. Tiki was a great player for us and he owns and ranks high on some franchise records not only as a rusher but as a receiver as well.

I am upset with the things he said and the way he said it and to top that off he abandoned us in the peak of his career. I understand one has right to opinions but you do not exercise a right in a manner that it becomes a wrong. How ironic that karma handed the Superbowl to the Giants his first year of his retirement. I remember that he was rooting for his brother’s team to win the playoffs against the Giants but that was simply to support his rather. I have no doubts that Tiki was happy that his former team won it all the way in the end. He is a NYG fan. Good luck to you in life Tiki and please think twice what you will say and do.