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Can David Diehl Play Guard?

Can David Diehl play guard? It looks like the New York Giants might need to answer that question in 2010.

During the recently concluded mini-camp, offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride made it obvious that the Giants are giving Will Beatty, a second-round pick a year ago, a full shot at winning the left tackle job this season. If Beatty does that, the plan is to move Diehl from the left tackle spot he has held the past three seasons to left guard -- bumping Rich Seubert from the lineup.

We have been speculating throughout the off-season about the possibility of Diehl moving inside. That has led to questions about whether or not Diehl can be an effective player at guard.

To be honest, I don' t really understand the question. Oh, of course, I know what it means. I can't, though, figure out why it is even being asked.

Can Diehl play guard? Of course he can. I don't doubt that for a second.

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Let's remember that the Giants drafted Diehl AS A GUARD in the fifth round of the 2003 NFL Draft. Yes, he has been the Giants' version of a human pinata -- spending his seven-year career bouncing all over the offensive line -- but let's not forget that guard is his natural position. The one I have always maintained he is best-suited to play.

Diehl started at right guard as a rookie in 2003, and was good enough to start every game. He was also good enough that, when the Giants needed a right tackle the following season, they trusted him enough to move him out there.

Next, he got bounced over to the left side and spent the 2005-2006 seasons starting at left guard.

Then came the 2007 season, and the big move for Diehl from left guard to left tackle. Turn back the clock. Remember how much we all questioned whether Diehl was the right guy to replace Luke Petitgout? Whether or not he had the athleticism to protect Eli Manning's blind side?

What were we saying then? We were saying Diehl is a natural guard. Again and again during the summer of 2007, I wrote about the subject of the Giants gambling on moving Diehl outside when it was "widely accepted that Diehl is better suited to stay at guard."

So, why -- if it was acknowledged at the time that guard is his better position -- are there now questions about whether he can handle switching back inside to guard?

Like I said, I don't get it.

Diehl has always given his level best at left tackle, and his ability to at least hold his own out there was in reality the key to the Giants building the quality offensive line that has stayed together for three seasons now. His Pro Bowl appearance last season (as an alternate, remember) not-withstanding, Diehl has always been only adequate at best on the outside.

He simply lacks the athleticism and quickness to deal with speed-rushing defensive ends, and has surrendered 28.5 sacks in his three seasons at left tackle. I believe all these concerns about Diehl, who is 6-foot-5, 319 pounds, being too tall to pay guard are pure silliness. He has already done it at the NFL level, and it quite well.

Nothing against Seubert, I love his heart and what he has done the past several seasons. I am, however, rooting hard for Beatty to earn that left tackle job.

I believe that automatically improves two positions on the Giants' offensive line.

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DIEHL AT GUARD

DAVE DIEHL CAN PLAY ANYWHERE ON THAT LINE. HE HAS THE PHYSICAL SKILLS AND WHAT MOST DON’T HAVE—THE MENTALITY. HE IS AN ALL-PRO FOR KRIPES SAKE ??
HE WILL DO WELL WHEREVER HE IS NEEDED—HE IS WHAT PARCELLS USED TO CALL 0NE OF “MY GUYS”—-A TRUE TEAM PLAYER. AND I’D EVEN VENTURE TO SAY THAT THE O-LINE WOULD BE BETTER AT THE RUN WITH HIM AT HIS NATURAL GUARD POSITION.
THANKS FOR ALL THE DEDICATION AND GOOD YEARS, DAVE. YOU ARE A TRUE GIANT IN MY BOOKS !!!

by spook6 on Jun 23, 2010 7:26 AM EDT reply actions  

chill on the caps brah

what the hell is a justin bieber?

by TheWenz on Jun 23, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, please

No need for all caps. It’s hard to read, and it’s considered ‘yelling.’ Be nice to our eyes.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, silliness

Good word Ed.

I think we all love Seubert but Beatty at LT and Diehl at LG is a better lineup. And Rich gets to play longer as a super sub.

Diehl may be a Pro Bowl or even an All Pro LG.

by MSP Giant on Jun 23, 2010 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

You said it...

I love the idea of having Seubert as a super sub. Injuries killed us last year and this will provide us with much needed depth. Diehl and Snee would make arguably the best guard tandem in the game.

by CCE718 on Jun 23, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

O-Line

As long as Beatty proves he can handle the left side, I do believe this is the way to go.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno who ever said Diehl can't play OG...of course he can.

I’ve always thought that McKenzie was the “weak link” (still pretty damn good) on the line, and that Diehl at RT would give him the advantage to use his athleticism and power on the outside.

If McKenzie’s spot is for real locked up, for whatever the hell reason…yea, Diehl should be playing guard cuz he’s one of the better OL’s on the team and should not be sitting.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

McKenzie

The numbers over the past couple of seasons show that McKenzie is a much, much better run blocker than we give him credit for. His pass blocking isn’t great.
The problem w/McKenzie is he has a $4 million contract and can only play RT. So, you can’t use him as a backup. Seubert can play both guard spots, center and even be used a third tight end. Plus, you can move Diehl to right tackle if McKenzie gets hurt, and let Seubert play guard.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Did Diehl move to LG from RT when we signed McKenzie?

If so it is ironic that if Diehl was not deemed good enough at RT or more favored at LG that he has spent more time at LT!

If McKenzie was signed to replace Diehl at RT it would be also ironic if Diehl replaced him at RT because Petrus played at LG.

The idea of Petrus starting this year is not far fetched given that Diehl (and Snee) started in their rookie years.

by G Fan in England on Jun 23, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing Petrus start

if he wins out in camp. I’m with Free in that I see McKenzie being the weakest of 2009s starting 5. He always seems to be falling apart, and I don’t see him playing at an above average level past 2 more years. I also like Diehl at RT for the reasons mentioned, and I hope that if McKenzie is out, Diehl and Beatty are THE tackles (doesn’t matter which side, let TC figure that out).

I think Beatty-Petrus-OHara-Snee-Diehl sounds good on paper to me. Seems like a LOONG shot to happen that way though. I also wouldn’t sleep on Whimper getting a shot at that LG spot if Beatty doesn’t crack into the lineup, sounds like the staff likes him there.

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by RealLT on Jun 23, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Petrus

That won’t happen. Unless there are injuries, he is not even in the conversation at this point.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't

that he wasn’t good enough to play RT, only played there as a rookie, was drafted as a guard.
After the Giants FINALLY got tired of 25 penalties a year Luke Pettigout at LT, moved there.
I’ve said tthis before, they are not going to start two youngsters side by side, not on an
established team, rarely happens. This was my hope, Beatty at LT, Diehl at LG, we’ll see?

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by Great Gatsby on Jun 29, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have purposely stayed out of the OL debates..I am pleased with what we have..

Even their “age” to me is silly at this point..They are solid..they have made an incremental improvement with Beatty on board..Next offseason I might start getting a little concerned, but now ths year..The DL is what I want to see get it back together..When I played the coach always looked for guys that had mud and grass stains on their asses after the game..the ass-end of our O-lines uniforms are clean…I really don’t see a ‘Borax’ commercial in the making..

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by Bobbiblue on Jun 23, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

What has Beatty done to be rated ahead of Seubert? He never played LT last year, did he? Is it just because he was a high draft pick? I don’t see what he’s done to be handed the starting LT position.

by jessie1 on Jun 23, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

he's not being handed the spot....

he’s competing for it. If he wins the LT spot, it means he beat out Seubert for a starting spot, and indirectly Diehl for the LT spot.

So there’s not a chance he’s being handed the spot cuz he’s a high pick.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Free is right

Beatty is a talented, young player being given the opportunity to EARN the job. The Giants drafted Beatty to be their left tackle of the future. Well, now they want to see if the future is here. I love Seubert, but he isn’t the player he used to be.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure He can

Agree.Line is better with him at Guard.Improves are depth.I think the question should be Is Beatty ready to start at LT?

by GENEA on Jun 23, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

The debate started with Reese

and his statement that Diehl was too big to be a guard, even though he had been successful as one. There might have been some theoretical reason – it’s harder for DLs to get under shorter guards – or he might have been trying to forestall discussions of moving Diehl inside before he had a replacement at LT. He certainly didn’t want to do anything to undermine David, who has done whatever they wanted and who wants to be the left tackle.
 I am glad to see that the coaches are disregarding Reese’s statement.
The lack of discusssion of McKenzie is interesting, given last year. My inference is that they want to see how he is physically before they start to talk about more OL changes. If he’s healthy, he’s not a liability.

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Jun 23, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

thank you.

I knew I wasn’t nuts when I said I heard someone from the Giants say that.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but didn't Reese also say...

that we don’t draft gymnasts? I think one should pay more attention to what Reese actually DOES rather than what he says, as I think he uses his pulpit to frame discussion, move issues, send messages and play defense, as well as to impart actual information. I’m never sure quite which is being done at any particular moment however.

by Cranky50 on Jun 23, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

OF COURSE

Thats what he is…..as for the notion that he is too big thats nonsense, some of the games best guards are basically his size (Faneca) , sometimes Jerry Reese says certain things that not even his staff believes like Andre Brown runs just like Derrick Ward, that guy just talks at times but i still love him, Diehl will play guard and he will be a pro bowler at it, as for you you people who keep sayin “IF” Beatty wins, STOP IT, Beatty will be the starting left tackle guys KG is just not gonna say it because it would piss richie off but make no mistake Beatty has already won the job to the organization.

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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 23, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Another wrinkle is...

that Diehl will take a pay cut if he does not play Tackle. When he signed his new deal one of the things that was in there to keep him performing at the top level.

I hope Beatty plays well enough to win the job but if not then keep DD at tackle..

by GiantRB27 on Jun 23, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Diehl was a Pro-Bowl caliber LG

There is no question that Diehl can and will play Guard. Its easier for a player to move from Tackle to Guard. Diehl is the rare exception a guy who moved inside out. I think moving to guard is the best move his only real weakness is that he’s not athletic enough and his kick is too slow to deal with the speed rushers.

I’ve been saying since last season ended that Will Beatty will be the staring left tackle. The only question is how good will he be … He’s got elite physical skills and with prototypical size ( he’s a bit light in the ass though but with a second training camp in the weight room not worried about it ) … If he’s got the nastiness to want to dominate he can.be as good as he wants to be. He’s a lot like Jason Peters in tha way except Peters doesn’t really want to play football.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 23, 2010 10:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Healthy Rich

If Seubert’s shoulder is all better I absolutely want him playing LG even if Beatty wins the LT spot. Diehl’s ability to play anywhere on the line makes him better suited than Rich to be a sub. Seubert was the best player on the O-line during the Super Bowl run and when healthy is a beast.

by Kissel on Jun 23, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Diehl is a pro bowler and that’s playing out of position. Seubert is one of my fav guys on the team but injuries have reduced him to a subpar to adequate player. Diehl is a starter, Seubert is not and that’s the bottom line.He’s a good guy but Diehls a better player and if the Giants stick to playing the best 5 guys he isn’t one of them.

I don’t think Richie will ever be completely healthy again. Playing G in the NFL is like getting into an hour long fight every week. He’s had some injuries ( horrific broken leg , shoulder ,etc. ) every year whereas Diehl has been an iron man. So I don’t expect him to ever be 100 pct again if he does its a plus, if he doesn’t than he’s better suited for spot duty.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 23, 2010 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well

That isn’t how it’s going to be. It is obvious the Giants now consider Seubert the weak link on the line. He doesn’t want to hear it, and neither do fans who love him. But, that’s how it is.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its also in the Giants best interest for Beatty to play left tackle and Diehl to play left guard as it gets Seubert out of the starting line up. Nothing against Richie but at this point he’s just adequate and this move would strengthen two positions and provide you with depth. Seubert is the only guy other than Ohara who can snap the ball. So he’s a quality backup at two positions ( C,G ). He can also be the blocking TE in short yardage and obvious running situations again. I don’t knows the backup T but I’m gonna guess that in the event McKenzie goes down that Diehl will move to the right side and Petrus or Seubert will move into the starting 5.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 23, 2010 10:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i dunno

TC likes his o-line to have some kind of continuity. I wish there were a designated tackle-sub. Asking Diehl to constantly shift around would probably be detrimental to the integrity of the line as a whole. Can Seubert play RT?

by Charles L on Jun 23, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sheeeeiiiittt … I value continuity too but TC also values flexibility and Diehl has played 4 positions on the line and played all of them well. I hope he lines up at LG all year but I don’t think there’s a question he can play RT since he did for two years a believe. TC knows he got to win this year or he may get fired ( I doubt it ) and that means playing the best guys. Seubert is also strictly a G/C he’s too short, too light and not athletic enough play outside The real question and this is my nightmare scenario is who plays RG if Snee misses time because he’s the best RG in the NFL and our best O-Lineman. TC’s son-in-law is the heart and soul of that line.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 23, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The answer to that is

Rich Seubert. If Beatty is the left tackle, Seubert backs up at center and both guards.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good to here Seubert can also play center

I remember last year you saying Koets (?) couldn’t even snap the ball correctly.

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by Willgfass on Jun 23, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seubert

is fine at center. Just can’t work the guy there when he is starting already.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 23, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping Beatty wins the job

He has the athleticism to handle speed rushers, it looks like he needed to get a little stronger last year. It seemed he struggled a bit with the bull rush.

But as Ed said, this really would upgrade 2 positions of the OL. And if Beatty can consistently win his matchup it will be easier to help Mckenzie is pass protection

by Giants56 on Jun 23, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

He better or he will be riding the bench

Beatty will be starting at ol, so Diehl should be able to handle playing og, if not the giants will use Seubert

by Jermal on Jun 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

It's about money

I believe the issue with Diehl is that playing LG instead of LT means Less Money.

I know sure where he is in his contract but he could ask for significantly more as a Tackle.

Once again – not sure where he is on his contract but I would assume this is the bigger then issue then whether he can play the position.

Diehl might want to be released as other teams would be happy to sign him as a Tackle after the solid job he’s done over the last 3 years.

by The Curse on Jun 23, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Beatty

Beatty isn’t going to win the job as I believe he needs some more time.

Unless he was a weight room junkie….

by The Curse on Jun 23, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree...

while he had a solid Rookie season, he’s got a ways to go….

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by andiamo708 on Jun 23, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

News: LT has been indicted on Rape charges

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Jun 23, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw that after the USA world cup game

I was crushed. It completly took the joy of the US win out of me

by #56 4life on Jun 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep me too...

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Jun 23, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd still take Seubert over Diehl any day....

As long as Seubert is healthy, he played last year with one arm.

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Diehl lacks the athletcism and movement skills to hit guys in space and at the second level. If he moves inside, then we love alot of our pulling ability on the counters and such. At 6-5", as yourself, if he is getting bullrushed by little guys like Elvis Dumervil and such, how is we going to fair against much larger and squatter DT’s

I am all for giving Beatty a shot if the coaching staff thinks he is good enough to not get Eli killed. To me, the last i saw of him he did NOT have an NFL body. I wonder how he holds up to the long haul and grind of a full season.

If it was me, i keep the line intact and try to work Beatty in where we can to season him, maybe even spell McKenzie to try and keep him fresher.

by dubsrub on Jun 23, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Seubert is a fine player, but Diehl is better

Its why he got picked to play LT, the most demanding position on the OL

by trueblue63 on Jun 23, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

About Beatty not having an NFL body he played last year at 6’6’ 305 with a 36 in arm length. How much weight exactly does he need to gain to be an NFL Left Tackle ? 10-15 lbs that’s not a lot .. In fact with the exception of the Ogdens, Jones and Paces of the world. Elite Left Tackles have all been small. Boselli was as good as there has ever been for a time and he was 295-300 tops. Joe Thomas is 6’6 312 , Chris Samuels never weighed more than 320 so you don’t have to be huge to play the position … Its more about athleticism, length, lateral quickness, being quick out of your stance and being able to mirror the DE, Yea you have to be able to anchor but then again he wasn’t exactly getting bullrushed by the bigger more physical d-ends on the right side last year. He was also probably the most athletic tackle in his class but he was “small” at 6’6 295-300 …I think he wins the job if he shows the desire and toughness to take it.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 23, 2010 3:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

"toughness"

is so important here…..

that’s why i was a big fan of Bulaga this year….he wasn’t as big at Trent Williams of Okung but he was nastier….

He really did a number on Derrick Morgan last year too when they matched up.

He’s the type of player that yeah, you may beat him here or there, but you won’t get to the QB b/c he’ll hold you, grab you, bite you, grab your pinky and bend it backwards….whatever he has too….

I don’t really see that mean streak in Beatty….instead he comes across as a soft spoken guy who likes art, long walks on the beach, and baking. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but come Sunday he’ll need that nastiness. And if he has that, he’ll be fine….his physical stature is fine.

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by andiamo708 on Jun 23, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, yeah

I remember someone (Ed maybe?) posted that video of Beatty at a fashion show and he mentions how he wants to start his own line of designer clothes.

That was a shock.

by Charles L on Jun 23, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't be fooled

He is one of those strange split personality guys

He’ll be fine with the nasty. Erik Williams on Cowboys was the same way. You listened to him talk in an interview and you thought “No way that is the guy that poked our DE in the throat.”

by trueblue63 on Jun 23, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think theirs a stigma in football that says you can’t really be educated or civil off the field and be a killer on it. I’ll call it the Robert Smith syndrome. The league has an image problem because teams feel as though its better to take a thug who you assume is gonna be physical than a guy like myron rolle who’s a good player but is a rhodes scholar and has something going for himself outside of football.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 23, 2010 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I haven’t heard any reason why Beatty should get the LT position. What has he done to earn it? Most posters are saying he should get it, and they haven’t even started training camp.

by jessie1 on Jun 23, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

what are you looking for?

Beatty was a 2nd round choice, highest in a long time for an OL of the GIants. They think highly of him..obviously.

Diehl flat out is not all that good at LT either. They’ve gotten away with it for all these years, he made the Pro Bowl..largely for his run blocking..but this is not an elite pass blocker there (tho he seems to find his way against the Cowpokes).

There’s nothing else.

What has any 1-2nd year player done to earn their spot? Should they never, ever, put one in the lineup?

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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diehl vs. Seubert

As someone who has been a fan for almost fifty years; this is a tough one. Anyone who saw Rich Seubert come back from that horrendous injury has to root for him. Anyone that has understood the sacrifices that David Diehl has made for this team has to root for him. As I remember, Diehl was a guard and accepted the tackle position out of a sense of obligation because there was no one who could do a better job at the time. We are lucky to have two such gamers who put the team’s needs ahead of their own and are great examples of what true Giants are.

by spider43 on Jun 23, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said Ed

It’s been said a thousand times before but Seubert as the “super-sub” should really improve our run game. Extra goal line TE, most teams use a back-up lineman, but not near the quality of a Rich Seubert.

Kick his ass Sea Bass

by buckyyo on Jun 23, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank God

I’ve been asking for this move for months, and I hope this is only the beginning of Killdrive doing things that’ll make the offense better. Hopefully, the playcalling is next (i.e. MORE KEVIN BOSS PLEASE!).

Diehl’s a natural guard, and Beatty’s an LT, who did well at RT when asked last season. I feel really good about this move. Seubert & McKenzie gotta go. O’Hara’s time is running out, too.

by Rev. Uniek on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with most of what you said

But Seubert and McKenzie gotta go? Not for another two seasons at least. McKenzie is injury prone and up their in age, I’ll admit it, but when healthy, he is a great run blocker and greatly improves the running game on that right side. He should be around another season or two because he still has some gas in the tank.

Seubert, if utilized as a “super sub” as many BBV’ers call him, he will be around a lot longer than he would if he was a starter. he wont be playing as many snaps, therefore he would take less punishment from those huge DT’s and have a longer career being a awesome back up to our O-line. Its not either of those guys time to go, not just yet.

by #56 4life on Jun 24, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

O'Hara was an All- Pro last year.

his time is not running out…if anything, his time is stuck in space.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course younger players should be able to earn the opportunity to become starters! No one said otherwise. Just because he was a high draft choice, doesn’t guarantee a starting position. If that were true, Sinorce Moss and William Joseph would be starting for the Giants, as would innumerable high picks from other teams.

by jessie1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess you're not hearing the point of the competition...

Beatty’s not guaranteed anything. He’s competing for his spot. Most of us expect him to win it..that’s all.

I myself would be terrified to see Diehl at LT again, Eli was running for his life entirely too much last year. (terrified’s probably a bad term…Diehl could do OK again, but I think Beatty’s can do better)

Having a healthy Seubert or Diehl himself at LG would go a long way to solidifying the line.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you’re not hearing my point. It’s all about competing. I don’t see what Beatty has done so far to supplant Seubert as a starter. He may beat him out in training camp, when the competition begins.

by jessie1 on Jun 24, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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