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Seubert Won't Go To Bench Without A Fight

Friday we highlighted Will Beatty's reaction to offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride saying the second-year offensive tackle could push Rich Seubert to the bench this season.

Gilbride made it clear he didn't expect Seubert to go easily. In a conversation with Mike Garafolo, Seubert confirmed as much.

"I know what people are saying about some guys getting old. But we don’t talk about that here," Seubert said. "We talk about how we’re going to get better and how we’re going to play.

"And one thing you can’t underestimate is experience and guys playing together and playing together well. Nobody’s happy with last year. We’ll find a way to fix that. ...

"Competition is good. I’ve worked for where I’ve gotten to and I’ve worked for everything I’ve had," said Seubert, a former undrafted free agent. "A little work has never scared me."

If you remember the terrible broken leg Seubert suffered several seasons ago, you know he should never be under-estimated. You love to love Beatty's talent, and in one way hope that it bubbles to the surface. On the other hand, you have to admire and respect Seubert's heart.

Star-divide

  • The Giants enter the season with two rookie punters competing to replace Jeff Feagles. Ernie Palladino isn't thrilled by the talk of lowered expectations coming from special teams coach Tom Quinn.
  • Justin Tuck wanted his teammates to remember a single word as they head off for six weeks of summer vacation prior to the beginning of training camp.

    "The word for me today is redemption," the starting defensive end said. "We’ve got a lot to come back and redeem ourselves from last year. I hope they keep that in mind. ...

    "We don’t want to start over at training camp. Guys still need to be watching film, we have DVDs to take home, guys still need to be in their package, learning the defense and making sure when we get to camp we pick up where we left off."
  • The Wall Street Journal (since when did they start covering sports?) says Antrel Rolle and Deon Grant have given the Giants' secondary an attitude it was missing in 2009.
  • Speaking of Rolle, he did not shy away from blaming the turf at New Meadowlands Stadium for Domenik Hixon's season-ending knee injury.

    "I was right there when it happened and I saw it right away," Rolle told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday after the Giants' final practice of veterans' minicamp. "And I was like, 'Damn, it don't look good.' He didn't make a cut or anything. It just got caught in the turf." ...

    Rolle said he couldn't put his finger on what the turf felt like.

    "I don't know what it was," Rolle said. "My feet were burning at the bottom on the turf. I was slipping on each and every play. It just didn't feel good to me at all. I can't lie to you about that. I am not one to really complain or make excuses or anything but they should definitely look into that as far as playing on that field in the future during the season."

    Rolle said he initially thought he was the only one who felt a burning sensation in his feet.

    "I thought maybe it was just me and my cleats," Rolle said. "But everyone's feet were burning, guys had a hard time gripping, they were getting caught a lot."

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Love the sweet sounds

of tenacity, Ed !!

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Jun 19, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

On the other hand

The comments Rolle made about the turf really scare me… Why are these guys the ones that have to break in the turf? Can’t they just get people to come in and walk around? Like a marching band competition or something? Or get steamrollers or something?

I’d be absolutely terrified to play there until the turf settled.

by Charles L on Jun 19, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I posted the same thing Charles the other day..they need to firm up that playing field..

rolling it or whatever it takes..or let the Jets break it in..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Jun 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They will

There will be several events there before the pre-season games.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

TC mentioned something about the Bon Jovi concerts

That the turf was flattened by the seating and stage

Perhaps this is a totally unforeseen consequence of having a major concert open the turf.

by trueblue63 on Jun 19, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just hire like 50 homeless people

pay them $20 apiece to mill around on it in cleats for a day

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jun 21, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 on the jets, has anyone else ever heard of problems with brand new turf in a new stadium?

I’m no turf expert so i didn’t know you have to break in fake grass, i’ve always played on the real thing…is this turf supposed to be different and “better” or more advanced than other stadiums?

by LT's Will Power on Jun 19, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

WSJ

I’m loling at the “Mr. Phillips”, and “Mr. Rolle”, and “Mr. Nicks”.

But hope filling article, none the same.

Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above

by Willgfass on Jun 19, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Beatty to LT

Diehl to LG
Seubert to super sub
Goodbye Boothe
but
Who is the backup tackle? McKenzie will get hurt for at least a game or 2. Count on it.
Are Giants keeping Whimper?

by MSP Giant on Jun 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably Beatty

with Seubert back to LG and Diehl regaining his sieve stats as the LT

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's most likely but....

…I would prefer they not have to move people around like that.

Be nice if they could find a solid vet off the waiver wire willing to be a backup RT and LT.

I see Seubert and Petrus backing up in the middle. Add one T and there are your 8 OL.

by MSP Giant on Jun 19, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If McKenzie gets hurt than Diehl should move from LG to RT. Beatty is the only TRUE LT they have on their team. Diehl probably fits better on the right side then he does on the left. He’s decent but he struggles against speed rushers. He wouldn’t have that problem at RT and even if he did they could use the te or a rb to chip block his man.

by TheBXRepresenta on Jun 19, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's OK but

Diehl is a potential All Pro at LG. He is solid at RT and OK at LT but best at LG

by MSP Giant on Jun 19, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I agree. Diehl has been playing out of position for these past few years and has done fairly well. Imagine him at this true position of LG. He has All-Pro written all over him.

by GhostDini on Jun 20, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I been looking for them to move deihl inside for the past 2 years now....

I actually gave up on the idea when they drafted Petrus and started talking about how good he was….

I guess the dream is still alive. I just honestly don’t know if Beatty is going to beat Diehl out. I think Beatty had a comendable rookie year but when he saw quality pass rushers he had some problems.

He’ll have to take a big step in order to beat out Diehl…not that Diehl is some supreme LT, but like I said, I think Beatty could get much better.

the height argument i thought had some validity, but it can’t hold TOO much water b/c they moved Whimper to G and i think he’s 6’5".

"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708

by andiamo708 on Jun 20, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Consider how bad many rookie T's look against a guy like Peppers

I know Beatty got burned bad a few times . But he also held his own a good part of the day.

by trueblue63 on Jun 21, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

McKenzie

I find it very interesting that McKenzie was never mentioned, since he missed four games last year, and, if I recall correctly, had some isues in 2008 as well. He must look good so far.
With Whimper apparently moving inside to demonstrate enough flexibility to keep his job, I would guess that the backup to McKenzie is whoever loses the Diehl/Beatty competition. It is also interesting that Reese’s comment about Diehl being too big to be a guard – which we debated endlessly – is of no interest to the coaches.
I like the Beatty LT scenario, with Diehl moving to LG and then to RT if McKenzie goes down. Seubert is the best backup we have had in a while.

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Jun 20, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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