Will Beatty Ready To Compete With Rich Seubert
We have speculated quite a bit this off-season about what the New York Giants' offensive line will look like in 2010. Well, we can stop. Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride clarified the picture during a meeting with reporters following Thursday's final mini-camp practice.
Provided everyone is healthy, it comes down to this. It is left guard Rich Seubert vs. left tackle Will Beatty for one spot. Either the line will remain as it has for the past few seasons, or Beatty will outplay Seubert in training camp, earn the left tackle job and push David Diehl into Seubert's guard slot.
"It is the best five guys playing. So it is not that Will would beat out David at left tackle, it is can Will play well enough at left tackle that you would move David in? But he is really beating out Rich Seubert - that is who he is beating out. And whether that will happen or not remains to be seen" said Gilbride. "Has Will played well? He has played real well. He has had a good spring. And that is good to see. But you are beating out a guy that may be the heart and soul of your offensive group. As I mentioned before, he is not surrendering that position without a fight. That is not going to happen."
As luck would have it, Beatty joined Inside Football's Pat Traina and I on 'New York Giants Talk' Thursday evening. Thus, we had the opportunity to ask him directly about about the competition.
Beatty, a second-round pick from Connecticut a year ago, played much more as a rookie than anticipated due to injuries to right tackle Kareem McKenzie. He relished the experience.
"i proved myself, working hard and I showed to the coaches that they can trust me going on the field during my rookie season, going on the field and filling a spot. That was a good feeling."
There wasn't any 'oh, no don't pick me. It was hands raised, waving Please Pick Me.'
This season Beatty knows the coaching staff could pick him to be the first new full-time starter on the offensive line since the current group was put together in 2007.
"That's what you want. Having the coaches say you're up, it's your turn," Beatty said. "That's why I am in the NFL -- to play. Everyone wants to have that opportunity."
Beatty said the competition does not affect his relationship with any of the current linemen.
"They know that I am here willing to work at whatever spot coach puts me at. There was never any animosity between me and the starting line," Beatty said. "They are competitive, and that's what you want out of your teammates, that's what you look for to get better."
As a second-year player, Beatty said increased familiarity with the offense is a huge advantage.
"The more you know the better prepared you are to face your opponent," Beatty said. "That was really my goal this off-season, just prepare, make sure I kept a notebook with me at all times jotting down those little things that might not be in the playbook, but things you need to know on the field to help you out."
Beatty also said he is continuing to learn from the Giants' veteran linemen.
"Their mental attitude toward the game, towards practice and towards preparation is just something that I've never really seen," Beatty said. "So, I'm still learning a lot more from them -- how to maintain your body through the regular season and, hopefully, on to the post-season."
If you have not listened to last night's show -- and if you haven't, what is your excuse? -- click on the player below. You will notice that I had very few questions during the Beatty interview, which was an intentional decision Pat and I made. Beatty is a young player who already knows Pat, so we thought that was the best approach. I thought it was a great interview.
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I get a great feeling about Beatty
When I read that he played with a nasty streak in college, I was thrilled they drafted him
In limited action I saw him kill guys away from the action. They were smaller players, he easily could have just pushed them down, but he basically jumped on them, crushed them.
Its exactly what you want in an OT. Especially a LT. You want those OLBs and DEs to worry a little bit that the LT will STOMP THEM OUT if they get the chance.
I completely agree.
I want nasty, dirty linemen. I want guys who will take shots at guys in the pile. Jump on guys when they don’t need to. Every other team we play does that to our boys, yet we don’t have any junkyard dog, nasty motherfucker types. The lineman, especially, should be just downright nasty. Not wanting to see Blowzell type leg trips, but just some stuff to agitate and frustrate the other team. Get the guys off their game.
Loved this pick last year...
and loving it even more now…
Opus smart , lascivio magis , intereo gauisus...
I've always hoped Beatty won the LT spot
surprised at the Diehl thing given what I heard from someone with the Giants (Reese? Coughlin? Gilbride?) that Diehl wouldn’t play OG again.
Surprised that McKenzie’s a lock I guess, but I’d say there’s plenty of time.
I mean..it just doesn’t make sense. I know Diehl’s gotta play. But how is Beatty competing for the LT spot, and Seubert competing for the LG spot…and the loser doesn’t play?
What if Seubert is showing more then Diehl at LG?
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
Diehl vs. Seubert
What the Giants are saying is they believe Diehl is a better player than Seubert, which is actually correct. Seubert is also in the final year of his contract, I believe.
And when somebody wins a competition somebody loses … and doesn’t play. Rigt now, that could be Seubert.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 18, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that
but if they’re giving out apparently an “open competition” and the best player will play..well, what if Seubert is showing he deserves to play and McKenzie doesnt?
I understand why Snee and O’Hara are basically set in stone, they have the All-Pro’s to prove it.
But the other 3…I just don’t understand the McKenzie part of it. I find it hard to believe that he’s set in stone and its just between Beatty and Seubert for the final spot instead of Beatty, Seubert and McKenzie for 2 spots.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 18, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Deihl is better than what i think you imagine him
He is/was a beast at the g position. it would be dumb to even say sueber would beat deihl out of the g position.
Basically they want the best lineman on the field..and that will be deihl,snee, ohara, mckenzie, then beatty or seubrt… mckenzie is getting a little old and with back problems he may struggle. but when healthy he is a good RT. I guess a healthy mk at RT is better than a heathly suebert at LG.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
+100
This isn’t rocket science. Seubert’s a gritty guy, but he’s always been the lest talented of the the o linemenn. Diehl is at best ok at LT, but is a fantastic guard. If Beaty can give us an upgrade at LT and Diehl can give us an upgrade at LG, that’s a huge boost for the team. The only player Seubert has a chance of beating out on talent is beatty — and that’s only because of experience, not raw athletic ability. Seubert would be a great sub, but getting him off the starting line would be a good first rebuilding step for the line.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Diehl was great in 2006
this is 2010. I dunno if this is Madden 2011, but I don’t think its just as easy as flipping on a switch.
He was pretty damn good at RT too, better then he was at LT. He’s been playing OT all these years. Seubert’s been at LG.
So, -101
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 18, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't foresee
Diehl having any problem switching back to guard. It’s a much simpler and less demanding position than LT. Plus, Diehl’s played both guard positions before, so it’s not like learning a new position. Seubert was never anything more than a lunch pail guy and he’s coming off an injury and getting up there in years, I think unless Beatty can’t cut it or Diehl or McKenzie get hurt I don’t want to see Seubert out there.
Do you have any factual basis for believing that Diehl can’t play guard any more?
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 18, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said he can't play guard.
I said he hasn’t in 3 seasons.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 18, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
and Seubert is a year older then Diehl
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 18, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with you Free
that confuses the hell outta me
it looks like they
want Beatty and LT or another year to grow. If he’s good enough to play now than he’ll be there otherwise the line is set as it has been
A bit confused here
I understand the competition, but where is Beatty competing at? Last year, he filled in at RT, this off-season, the speculation of playing LT, but Beatty is competing with Seubert at LG. I know Beatty isn’t a G, that’s why i’m asking!
So, would i be correct in the assumption that Beatty has been at LT and the coaches award him the job, meaning that Diehl would boot Seubert out of the LG spot because he is the better player?
I’m only asking this because if Beatty has been at LG(?) and wins, this would have no bearing on playing LT!
clarify
Deihl is a LG playing LT.
Beatty is a LT, who played RT due to MK’s injury.
So if beatty progresses as expected. that allows our best LG(deihl) to play his natural position and beatty to play his natural position(LT)
which ultimately gives us our best lineman playing there most comfortable positions.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Hootman
Re-read the post. Beatty is being given the opportunity to win the left tackle job. IF he wins it, Diehl will move to left guard, and Seubert will go to the bench.
Beatty has not & will not play left guard.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, that's why i asked
I re-read it a few times before i posted, so that’s why i asked. I shouldn’t take those crazy pill’s that Andiamo was talking about before reading it! lol
Thanks for the clarification!
it confused the hell outta me
"Throw the damn ball to Kevin Boss" - Andiamo708
by andiamo708 on Jun 18, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
People are making this more complex than it is
The team is trying to put the best 5 OL out there.
No one said that McKenzie was guaranteed a spot.
My guess:
The team has them ranked: Diehl, McKenzie, Seubert.
They probably expect/hope that Beatty is a bona fide LT. That improves the line because Diehl did an admirable job, but often needed help on passing downs and it restricted the team in going 4 WRs.
That will allow them to decide where to play Diehl.
But since they think McKenzie>Seubert, they prefer to move Diehl to G.
It makes sense. As much as the Giants might prefer a G of a certain height or other criteria, the single most important aspect is his ability to keep Eli from getting his @$$ kicked. I know if I’m the coach/GM it all starts with the health of my franchise QB.
The thought the interview was very good..Beatty came across very positive..
I think we have a very nice dilemna here..let’s hope they all stay healthy.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

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