Who Will Replace Domenik Hixon On Kick Returns?
With Domenik Hixon gone for the 2010 season with a knee injury, the primary question is obvious -- who returns kickoffs and punts this season in Hixon's absence.
Call Hixon "just a return guy" and minimize the loss if you will. The Giants, though, will miss him on special teams. He was their primary return guy in 2009, and a pretty good one, and has been an outstanding coverage guy as long as he has been a Giant.
- Among players who returned 10 or more punts in 2009, Hixon's 14.2-yards per return average was second only to DeSean Jackson's 15.3-yard average.
- He handled 58 kickoff returns last season and averaged 22.3 yards per return, which had as much to do with poor blocking as anything else. He has averaged 24.9 yards per return in three years with the Giants.
- As a receiver, he caught just 15 balls in 2009. This means Ramses Barden will have to step up as the fourth receiver.
Back to the original question, though. Who will return punts and kickoffs? Let's look at the obvious candidates, in no particular order of preference or possibility. I will just name them as they come to mind.
- Sinorice Moss: I know, I know most of you want him off the roster instead of running back kicks. But, he is still a Giant, has experience handling both punt and kickoff returns and has to be considered a candidate. Thing is, he has never been any good in either capacity as a pro. He averaged a paltry 6.7 yards per punt return on 11 tries before losing the job to Hixon in 2009. In 24 attempts over three seasons, Moss has averaged just 19.4 yards per kickoff return. He has the speed, it just doesn't translate.
- Ahmad Bradshaw: He has done both jobs as a Giant, so he has to be on the short (or long) list right now. You would have to think, though, that coming off broken bones in both feet and with his importance to the offense as a running back, he would only handle either of these jobs as a last resort. Has career averages of a decent 23.2 yards on 77 kickoff returns and 7.8 yards on just eight career punt returns.
- Danny Ware: Was supposed to be the primary kickoff returner last season, but injured his elbow on the very first play of the season. Flashed some ability to be a good returner in the 2009 pre-season. He will be fighting for a roster spot, but showing he deserves this job will go a long way toward ensuring he gets one. Ware worked out as a punt returner at times in 2009, but has never done it in a game.
- Mario Manningham: Split time with Hixon and Bradshaw returning punts during training camp and pre-season games last season. Returned only one punt during his collegiate career. He has the speed and elusiveness, and would have to be considered a candidate since he is unlikely to start at receiver unless Hakeem Nicks or Steve Smith in injured. Unlikely to be a candidate for kickoff returns.
- Chad Jones: The Giants' third-round pick has collegiate experience returning both punts and kickoffs, though his LSU stats don't show that he excelled in either capacity. One thing in his favor is that he is unlikely to see a lot of playing time in 2010, especially in Kenny Phillips is healthy. One thing working against him is that Tom Coughlin hates trusting rookies, whose ball security can be sketchy, with return duties.
- Aaron Ross: I find this one to be a long shot, but Ross was catching punts during Tuesday's mini-camp practice, and the fourth-year cornerback did come out of Texas with a reputation as a tremendous punt returner. Various reports Wednesday said Ross and Manningham were the first names GM Jerry Reese mentioned as potential punt returners to replace Hixon.
Ross apparently loves the idea of returning punts again. From Pat Traina.
Ross, incidentally, has been soliciting the coaches to put him on special teams. “I’ve been asking to do it,” he said of playing on special teams.
When asked what the appeal is, he smiled and said, “It keeps me loose. It’s a momentum changer for both sides of the ball. And it’s just something I’ve been doing since I’ve been in college, so I don’t mind doing it here.”
Ross, who spoke prior to the news about Hixon’s season-ending injury, might not get the chance to be the team’s punt returner if he ends up winning back his starting job from Terrell Thomas. Typically, the Giants don’t like to put starting players in kickoff or punt return roles.
However, Ross doesn’t seem to mind if he’s asked to do double duty.
“I don’t know how that’s going to work, but I just want to catch punts,” he said, adding, “Hopefully I’ll get a chance to do it.”
Here is a highlight reel of punt returns by Ross while he was at the University of Texas. - Andre Brown: Did a limited amount of returning at North Carolina State, running back 17 kickoffs and one punt over three seasons. On one hand it makes sense to give him a look -- at least returning kickoffs. On the other hand, this is a guy returning from a devastating Achilles Tendon injury and you just don't know how he would react to the tremendous speed of kickoff returns.
- Antrel Rolle: The Giants' prized free-agent acquisition returned a few punts for Arizona last season, netting an average of 9.2 yards on six returns. Remember Jason Sehorn? I know you do. Knowing how important Rolle is to the Giants' revamped defense, with or without Phillips, I can't imagine Rolle getting an opportunity to do this.
Of course, there is always the possibility that a free agent will shake loose later this summer and be brought in to compete for the job. Or, that a return guy will be cut during pre-season and added to the roster.
For now, though, these are your candidates. If there was a game tomorrow, my guess is Ware would return kickoffs. I have no idea who would return punts.
Who do you want returning kicks?
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Tim Brown?
When I heard the Hixon news, Tim Brown was the first thought that came to my head
Me too
He probably has a good chance of making the team now if he proves he can play on ST. He is a great returner and would definitely help there but if he can help in kick coverage he would be very likely to make the team
by michaelkhan3 on Jun 18, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad that Aaron Ross is optimisitc about returning kicks
out of everyone…including Hixon, Ross was probably always the most talented one for the spot. The reason he was never used most likely is he’s too important a player and he’s always hurt.
How about Ross does punt returns only, since that’s really less of an injury risk. Maybe use Chad Jones there too so he can make some heads roll.
And then have Ware/Brown (Tim or Andre) returning kickoffs? Ware was back there last year, then dislocated his elbow of course (can’t win…)
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Good strategy
I think right now that’s the best strategy. We’ll have to see how this plays out in training camp though.
by potroast on Jun 17, 2010 7:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, Free summed up my thoughts too
Assuming Ross will be the nickel CB and has the experience, it only seems logical for him to get the first chance at PR. BUT, and at the same time, explore another option as well, just in case Ross cannot find his hammy!
As for Ware, if he was penciled in prior to his injury, then i would assume he has what it takes to get the job done.
Overall, it’s early and at least we have the time to sort this out!
#31... a CB... returning kicks!?
No F’n Way. I’ve already read this story once…. it didn’t have a happy ending
not KR like Sehorn
Punt returns.
Most definitely keep him off kickoffs, but punts..fine.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradshaw was the other kick returner last year wasn't he?
It would make sense to me to have him back there as the main guy this year with Ware back there with him.
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not last year
the year before when he was the 3rd RB he was basically the main KR. Last year he returned 6 punts, probably just to change it up.
That’s why I say Ware or Brown is best off for the KR spot, given they are down the depth chart and also skilled enough to be a threat.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradshaw
was my probowl kick returner in Madden one year.
Just saying…
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All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
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-Same as above
I like Ross/Ware
Cruz should get a shot.
They might bring someone new in.
same with me
ware returning kickoffs, ross returning punts. i really dont see ross winning back the starting postion from TT so i think thats a real possibility
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by Plaxico Burress on Jun 17, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Ross
Let me guess, all the guys that KILLED the Giants for letting Jason Sehorn (the most overrated player in history by the way) return kicks now want Aaron Ross to return kicks??
Not me. Ross needs to play CB period.
I say let Moss return every kick and if he blows then cut him immediately and use the roster spot for something usefull….
The difference
I believe is that Ross returned punts in college whereas I do not believe Sehorn had returned kickoffs before.
To say Sehorn was overrated is a bit strong – yes he had a poor SB against the Ravens but tell me one player who had a good game that day for the Giants.
by G Fan in England on Jun 17, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
How about if TT beats him out as starting CB
Is he still too valuable as the nickel corner to field punts?
i would like to see ross returning punts
only because he has the experience and the speed to do it, but even if TT does keep the starting job, its going to be really nice having webster, TT, and ross as our top 3. 3 cbs are on the feild more times then not anyway so you can almost say the top 3 CBs are starters
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by Plaxico Burress on Jun 17, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree and it was a serious question.
I think that Ross is very valuable, but he did a strong job at PR at UT.
Even though he isn’t a speed demon, he has the moves and speed that can create big plays (like Manningham). I think that he could handle nickel and PR. But I’m not certain he can do it and keep his shoulder and hamstring intact.
Ross Can't Stay Healthy
And he is going to be a kick returner too and take full speed spankings?
No thanks. We need every CB we have healthy. If Ross is healthy, there is no way Terrel Thomas is a better corner.
Actually we are talking about himbeing a punt returner
The beauty of which is the fair catch, which allows the return man to avoid all full speed spankings (at least if he is good at it)
With Ross basically missing an entire season, we can’t know who is better.
Thomas played very well in stretches last year, before the roof caved in. He should be better this season.
But one thing is true. If you only allow the PR/KR to be a marginal player, your returns teams will suffer.
you dont think TT is better then Ross??
even after the monster year TT had last year? even if ross was healthy i dont think he could put up the kind of season TT did.
Albert Pujols + a glove = Ike Davis
by Plaxico Burress on Jun 17, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny Ware
It seems like he is finally ready to make an impact this year and this would be a great time to show it.
by Giants_fan4life on Jun 17, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions
im in agreement with everyone thusfar
That combo seems to be the best option. Maybe Ross should stick to nickel right now with TT on his game. Have him focus on punts, and slot receivers. And don’t worry about him getting hurt again. If a players gonna get hurt, they’re gonna get hurt. No use babysitting them.
by wilddre22 on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
how often do players get hurt on special teams during the year?
are kick returner injury’s something that happens all the time? I can understand why one would be concerned of injury’s to the starters, but if the talent is there let them try.
what the hell is a justin bieber?
Kick returns
I know part of this sentimental, but not entirely. Bring back David Tyree
Not happening
And even Tyree knows it. Besides, Tyree was never a return guy.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 17, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
No disrespect to college ball
but I would say returning kicks in the NFL is a bit tougher.
This is the problem with players serving double duty – the more they’re on the field, the greater the risk of injury.
Pick the guy who is least valuable (that in itsself is a discussion and could change like the wind) in his regular role, maybe a backup guy, and give him a shot. If the punt coverage sucks it won’t matter who we have back there, anyhow. As long as he doesn’t fumble the ball, put him back there.
Seeing as Moss has never impressed me about anything he’s done, this would be his chance; I would put him in to return punts and kicks.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
Ware will probably be phobic of KRs...
Since the goddamn guy broke his forearm on the first play of the season on a KR last year.
I like the idea of Ross doing it. Sinorice SHOULD HAVE been the KR/PR from day 1, but he’s just too dumb. I really want him cut this year. The guy has been getting free checks from the team for years now.
I hate to sound like an ass to Hixon, but I’m just glad it happened in June. Hopefully Ross can do it, since he’s no longer a starter at CB really.
I would go with Ross..
Playing a return role takes alot of guts and he has the guts and the experience. We don’t want a guy out there returning kicks that does not bring both of those traits onto the playing field.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Also, it is a shame about Hixon..The injury 'bug' has already arrived they better check that field out..
If it is too soft then it isn’t ready to play on and things are going to get worse..they can fix that.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
right
Plus he is showing the passion for wanting to do it, which goes a long way for that position. It takes a brave man to catch a pop fly out of the air and stare down 5 to 8 players coming for blood with one or none blockers, and have to figure out how to navigate that treacherous path. If he has the cajones to do it, then let him do it. I don’t wanna hear that he’s too important to the team to be there full time. This is a grown ass man, and a professional NFL player. If we have to babysit him, then that is a problem to me. Second, if the greatest corner of all time could do it, then Aaron Ross can do it.
And just because someone has the same number as another former player doesn’t mean anything really. Your talking 2 different ppl here. Sehorn has nothing to do with Ross.
by wilddre22 on Jun 17, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beauty of letting a guy like Ross field punts is the fair catch
Its why DeSean Jackson can do it. If its a great high kick and you are going to get creamed
FAIR CATCH
You can’t really fair catch a Kickoff Return and there are way to many hits from the sides.
my only hope
is that we don’t use anyone who already plays a big role on this team. No to Rolle, Ross, Bradshaw, Manningham, and anyone else who regularly is on the field for more than a few snaps a game.
Give this job to someone who rides the pine but has some exceptional raw ability… even if that means keeping Sinorice.
I just don’t want to see other areas of our team get weaker because of Special Teams injuries.
As Ed said injuries will happen… but why invite the chance for more injuries to key players, when then don’t need to be on the field.
I feel like Manningham could be really good
b/c he’s so slippery once he has the ball, but on the flipside he is prone to the drops and that could be really dangerous on punt returns.
2009 Did Not Happen
Well, you hit the nail on the head CJ..
but he has a problem with his hands..so I wrote him off as a returner..I think he would be too antsy out there..You got to catch the ball and make that crucial first evasive move..I think he can make the first evasive move, but I don’t think he’d have the ball when he did.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Stats
ESPN has Jackson at 15.3 and Hixon at 15.2.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/returning/sort/yardsPerPuntReturn/qualified/false
Boy I just watched the vid that Ed posted on Ross..that kid has moves..
Who was #25 he blasted? was that Penn State?..Did he wake up yet?..I’m more convinced he is our return guy.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Ross is definitely a playmaker
The defense definitely is better when is healthy and on the field, even though I’d hardly classify him as a shut down corner.
After giving it some thought
I think I’d like to see Ross take a shot at returning punts. The fact is that for all his speed, he’s never really been a very effective corner. He’s an indifferent tackler and gets beaten way too often. He makes the occasional pick, but not enough to compensate for his other defiicencies. He rates very poorly on the more sophisticated stat analysis sites, and my subjective view of watching him play is that he is an average to below average player. Thus, I don’t think the risk of injury would be as damaging as people think. In fact I think Bruce Johnson has a chance to develop into a somewhat better nickel corner than Ross anyway. Ross appears eager to try his hand at returning punts, and he’s had some college success, so I say let’s see if he can do it on the big stage and take the risk of injury.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
Granted, Hixon's injury is a major blow to the Giants kick return.
I am still solid on Bradshaw. He is a force when he is called to task. The foot operation concerns me but I don’t think that it will hinder his production. I am with Brad.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Jun 17, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
kick returns
please bear with me a while.i dont post because of disabity but read every day.i dislike injuries as much as anyone,but if we had to have one i think or cant think of anyone that hurts this team any less than hixon.i think that he is a very good special teams player,but one that can easily be replaced.i read this site and others and all i read is panic and desperation.does jason seahorn come to mind?all i am hearing are rolle,phillips,ross,tt,nicks,smith,barden,bradshaw,jacobs,brown,and my least favorite ware.why dont we just put eli back there and the season is saved?lol,lol,lol.yes these are all good returners,except eli.now i know a lot of people like ware alot,but not mine.yes he has showed a few flashes,but he is always hurt and in the doghouse.he is far from as good as some think.he is not a workout warrior and reason for so many little injuries.bradshaw played with basicaly two broken feet and a wrist all year and still out performed him by a bunch.i am saying why do any of you want any of our starters to return kicks?crazy.there are alot of backups that can do the job.i dont like ware and think we could trade him for at least a pretty good draft pick.i like gartrelle john son a lot and man is a total beast.let him try kicks at least in camp.he did it in colleage and about 200yards in the senior bowl or one of them.he is all muscle,faster than he looks,is a little shifty,and after a small head of steam who is going to tackle him?also he has a part of a year,not used a alot but put up good numbers when he played,is a good blocker can catch out of the back field.can you imagine eli giving him a couple of shovel passes near the goal line,unstoppable.we have others like bruce johnson,but thint about the beast gartrelle.thank you.sorry to be long keyboarded but had to get it out.
Hey Allen..first I am sorry to learn that you are disabled and we would all like to hear from you more..
Basically all we need is a guy that can move us to the twenty yard-line..Our offense should be able to take it from there..We need a guy that won’t get us pinned back..I love seeing our return guys break a long one, but in reality lets just havea guy who gets us in a position to start from the twenty..Eli and the runners will have the room they need to move the ball downfield..When a team gets pinned back the offense has few options but to become more of a defense..but that scenario usually leads to big trouble.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
thanks
thats all i am trying to say i think gartelle is more than good enough to at least get to the twenty or beyond and he does not fumble and like him over ware cause i think he only wants a check.took me three hours to type that first one and wont mention disabled again just thought people might not resd because of it taking too long and dont know much about computers.thanks for responing means a lot.
right there with ya
Gartrelle or any of the other non-vital players are where we should find our replacement
I also think Gartrelle should get a look...
I don’t know if he has the burners that they are looking for though.
I also agree, and do not want a starter returning Punts. I do however think that starters should be used on special teams.
I remember back to the ‘07 Playoff game in TB. John Gruden called the turning point of the game was when Corey Webster recovered the fumbled kickoff return (Right after Tynes muffed it). And Cweb was our starting CB that game, in fact he played fantastic, he had the INT in the endzone and a couple PD’s. But the fumble recovery and his ability to pick the ball up on the sidelines and stay in bounds was HUGE.
I also remember Parcells using a lot of defensive starters on ST as well….and guys you wouldn’t even think of like Marshall, Reasons, Burt, Pepper….(yes, he used DEs and NTs)
Again, I don’t want starters returning Punts….but I think they can still be used on ST.
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