New Meadowlands Stadium Claims Hixon As First Victim
Ugh! Did it really have to start this way? The New Meadowlands Stadium claimed its first injury victim Tuesday when New York Giants' wide receiver Domenik Hixon went down with an injured right knee during the open mini-camp practice in the afternoon.
Right now, the Giants say they do not know the severity of Hixon's injury.
"I'm not sure yet - we'll see," Coach Tom Coughlin said about Hixon's injury. "This turf kind of snagged his foot. We are hoping that it is not something serious. I think he will be sore tomorrow. The extent of it, I'm not sure right now. Domenik is a tough guy, now. He has fought his way through some things in the past. Hopefully, this is not something serious."
Hold your breath and hope, Giants' fans. We saw more than our share of injuries in 2009. Hixon is a guy whose play-making ability as a returner and in kick coverage would be hard to replace.
Another injury note. Defensive tackle Jay Alford, recovering from knee surgery, is not participating in mini-camp after he "tweaked his MCL" in a recent fall during an OTA workout.
- The Giants are estimating attendance for the workout at 10,000, but other reports are putting the number around 7,000.
- No matter the real attendance, the Giants were thrilled to get into the facility and begin checking out the playing conditions.
"It's good to be here, really good to be here," Coach Tom Coughlin said. "We needed to get in here. "To have an opportunity to work on the turf, to check the wind out - it is different from Giants Stadium," Coughlin said. "It is a different venue - it did swirl on us here today. Yhis has been a very good experience to come in here." - Osi Umenyiora worked with the second unit as Justin Tuck and Mathias Kiwanuka took first-team reps. For now, Osi is playing the good soldier. It is clear, though, that he expects to wind up as the starter this fall.
"If I truly, truly was not the best player, then I’d be cool with that," Umenyiora said when asked if he’d welcome a rotation of defensive ends with Mathias Kiwanuka, adding: "The minute in my mind I’m playing the way I’m capable of playing and I’m not on the field, then of course it’s going to be a problem. But you know, I don’t think that’s going to happen." - Retired punter Jeff Feagles was at the workout to tutor rookie punters Matt Dodge and Jy Bond. Feagles said he may start a business as a kicking consultant.
"The full-time coaching thing is not something I want to do because of my time I want to spend with family and things like that," Feagles said. "However, in talking to John [Carney], he implied to me a little bit here and there will help the young guys, especially on game days when special-teams coaches are concentrating on the game. They don't have a lot of time to work a young guy who's on the sideline through problems or whatever. So that's a good opportunity."
In reality, it is surprising that teams have not already begun to hire kicking coaches. Maybe Feagles will start a new trend. - Kenny Phillips is not practicing during this mini-camp, but Mike Garafolo reports that Phillips is progressing. And he is getting antsy to get on the field.
"He's getting better every day," coach Tom Coughlin said Monday. "You just have to have great confidence that he wants it so badly he can hopefully overcome anything. He's making steady progress, and we still have the very good circumstance that (his knee) doesn't swell."
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Good. GREAT. GRAND!!
So…anyone wanna trade WR’s still?
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
Good one
more playing time for barden and joseph
Moss.....
I suppose Moss is now our #1 Punt Returner! Yikes! ;)
Chad Jones instead?
Charlie: I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant.
by Larry Soprano on Jun 16, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its more since that picture makes it look bad
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
That's true
I couldn’t resist the picture, though.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 16, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I was there and saw it happen
It looked bad when it happened and the crowd went silent when it occurred. He was def clutching his leg in pain but after like 5 minutes he was able to walk off the field leaning on another player. I think Mike G quoted him as saying “it was a close one”…so hopefully he Hixon will escape this time.
I saw it too
Happened to be focusing on him with great view from opposite end zone.
It looked like nothing when it happened, he actually tried to get up and run. Figured he just caught his toe, when he went back down, I thought OH F, Please NO ACL. I hope it turns out to be a sprain, because I thought Hixon looked very fast and crisp before that.
As a returner and 5th WR he is an asset.
opposite endzone?
were you part of the chanting crew? that group that chanted everyone’s name for the whole 2 hours?
Nope
It was pretty quiet by me. But it could have been the people below us, Sitting behind them we wouldn’t have noticed
lol ok
there were a contingent that were way over hyped. It was cool tho, good to see fans amped about the team. There was one guy who walked down to where i was sitting, and started yelling at the team! Saying things like “you’ve got alot of work to do after last season, so stop fooling around and get to work”! then he angerily stomped back to wherever the hell he came from. we all laughed. like, dude, chill out. we all feel you but….it’s mini camp!
Moss
Moss gets reps at WR each Spring/Summer that perhaps should go elsewhere. And sometimes he dazzles.
Then the season comes and he does not play much.
Shouldn’t a decision be made on this guy? If his kick returning can be replaced…shouldn’t there be a trade somewhere? Is there a young WR that should be getting more reps?
Forgetting Hixon
for the moment, I just have never seen a team with the rash of injuries and furthermore, the amount of nagging injuries this team seems to have? At some level, I have to question
at least partially the medical staff, at least regarding the nagging injury aspect?
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Stay thirsty my friends."
Nothing you can do
when a guy gets his foot caught in the turf. Or, like Alford, falls down. My only question is how does a guy like Aaron Ross miss basically the whole season with a pulled muscle? How does that never heal if it’s taken care of properly?
by Ed Valentine on Jun 16, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
yea, that's the stuff that's infuriating
and it was the same stuff that happened to the Mets last year, which I mention since they have the same training staff.
I can deal with a guy blowing out his ACL or something like that, but when a muscle strain turns into a 4 month injury, and the player gets hurt more during rehabs, well then there’s a problem with your staff.
2009 Did Not Happen
Gotta think too
A bunch of teams have been catching flak for not reporting the full list of injuries (see: Jett Farve). Many teams are likeiwse notorious for being very ambiguous with their injury reports and not revealing the full story.
Maybe our staff is just more careful or honest? Its tough to blame them for something like this, as it is either a technique thing (not likely) or just a freak occurence with the new turf not being broken in.
Let’s see how he rehabs and gets back to the game before jumping on the medical staff, as THAT is their real job.
- Mohamed Sanu: A Giant in Two Years-
Osi
is starting to sound like that shortstop from yesteryear (Gary Templeton), who said, and
I quote. “If I ain’t ‘startin, I ain’t ’departin”, that was so funny, it just stuck in my mind.
In Templeton’s case, was talking about the All Star game, obvious after this season, one of the two defensive ends is going to have to go, we’ll see which one?
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Stay thirsty my friends."
they should have traded hixon during the draft
we have enough receivers and he wasnt that great of a returner anyways. i still dont know why people think he is worth his salt as a returner. you can pull every mediocre returning stat he has and i will not be impressed. get rid of him while you can.
what the hell is a justin bieber?
Yeah, it would be a shame
to let statistics get in the way of an argument.
Hixon had the second highest average yards per punt return of any returner having more than 15 returns. Only Desean Jackson had a higher average. Admittedly, Hixon was well below average as a kick returner. Factor in that he’s a very competent back up receiver and a decent special teams player and, on balance, he’s pretty valuable to have around. When Hixon was out injured, nobody else stepped up and did anything at all on punt returns — Moss was particularly bad. And none of the replacement kick returners did any better either — which suggests that the kick return team as a whole was not too good.
I don’t know if there was anybody inquiring about Hixon, but it’s doubtful that anything we would get in return for him would give us the same overall value.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like
to see Chad Jones get an opportunity during training camp and pre-season, the kid is a heck of an athlete I have seen enough of Moss on this team, period!
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Stay thirsty my friends."
by Great Gatsby on Jun 16, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they'll give Jones a look
as a returner. If KP can play at all, Jones won’t get much chance to play safety. So I see a big special teams role for him this year. I’m hoping he can be a gunner type too. I’d especially love to see him (or anyone) lay a big hit on DeSean Jackson.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I would have rather have seen bradshaw with two bad feel return kicks
i put all of hixon’s punt return “successes” on the special teams blocking not his actual talent as a return man. i cant remember the last time he made a guy miss or broke a tackle. hell put in manningham in there.
what the hell is a justin bieber?
Compare Moss and Hixon
If our punt return blocking was so good, why couldn’t Moss return punts well? He’s got as much speed as Hixon. As for Bradshaw, he’s been ok as a kick returner, but I don’t remember him returning any punts. And now that he’s getting so many reps as a half back, do you really want to expose him to the kind of hits you can take as a punt returner?
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Hixon
is a vgood returner. putting bradshaw or manningham is not what we want to do. Risking injury on starters is not worth it. Hixon hits the gap very well on returns and doesnt hesitate(moss) he also goes north and south and his acceleration is great.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Bradshaw did return 6 punts in 2009
He averaged 9.2 per return. That’s 5 yards per punt less than Hixon. Pretty tough to argue that Bradshaw’s clearly a better option than Hixon. As for how Manningham would do, that’s anybody’s guess. But the fact that the Giants haven’t ried him there suggests that they don’t thinjk he has that skill or that they don’t want to risk him taking those kind of hits.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
let me get this one Tucker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azqo9br91gE
i count 4 guys that Hixon juked. As a matter of fact, until he got downfield, the blocking was atrocious.
Hixon is not the best out there, but he’s not as bad as we want to imagine. Besides, there is no Dave Meggett or Mel Gray sitting on the bench.
Nice!
It’s amazing how often real life is different than our selective memories. Thanks for the assist in debunking this argument.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
its funny how one example makes you a believer
did you see how many tackles the cowboys biffed on?
what the hell is a justin bieber?
I hate this fake turf.
It’s often blamed for this type of injury. But is it true? A lot of high schools are using this stuff these days.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jun 16, 2010 9:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Field Turf
A lot of teams are using it, college and pro. It is much, much better than those artificial turf carpets. It is pretty soft, but it is also a little on the thick side. Teams will use it because it is soooo much easier to maintain that grass, and you will get fewer injuries than on the carpet.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 16, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, but this type of "foot got stuck" injury ... i dunno...
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jun 16, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Hixon & G-Men
caught a break…From Vacchiano
I’m told that GM Jerry Reese just said on @SiriusNFLRadio that WR Domenik Hixon suffered a hyper-extended right knee yesterday. #NYG 3 minutes ago
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Stay thirsty my friends."
by Great Gatsby on Jun 16, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
It happens a lot, his foot didn't really get stuck
He was probably a bit lazy in picking it up and it was still a little in contact with the turf, you try to move it/cut and the joint twists awkwardly
In the old days, we used to get a different kind of injury, caused by slick artificial turfs, where legs would slide out when someone tried to plant. Led to hyper-extensions and ACLs too.
And natural grass has its own foibles. Its far less uniformly smooth, there were often drains and other un-seen problem spots.
Mickey Mantle tore up his knee in a drain as a rookie
and that was natural grass. These types of things happen, no matter the surface.
2009 Did Not Happen
I think people want to believe that injuries can be avoided
Because that would make us happy
But I have come to believe its just the natural outcome of very large, powerful men engaging in activities that test the limits of their joints, tendons and ligaments.
And for much, the players themselves have to take responsibility. The team can teach you and line you up for stretching, but they can’t actually make you do it properly.
Moss and Hixon
are maybe competing for the same roster spot.
If we take Smith, Manningham, Nicks and Barden as given and Hagan highly regarded on special teams that really only means one gameday roster space for a WR who doubles as a KR/PR.
Hixon has shown to be the better returner of the two – but who is the better WR. Hixon has had some big games but is remembered more for his drops compared to Moss who has not played much but caught what has been thrown to him.
I would keep Hixon of the two for his return skills.
by G Fan in England on Jun 16, 2010 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
People focus too much on Hixon's drops
He was really a very good receiver in 2008. Last year he got hurt and overshadowed by the emergence of both Nicks and Manningham. But when healthy he still saw way more reps at WR than Moss, so the Giants clearly think he’s the better receiver.
Moss is an enigma. I’ve always liked what I saw of him as a receiver, and wondered why he wasn’t used more. But then he’s been so dismal when given a chance to return kicks that his value has been limited at best. I resisted jumping on the anti-Moss bandwagon until now, but, sadly, I think it’s time to chalk the Moss pick as a failure.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
to add
Hixon’s drops are magnified b/c he was open and probably had a few td’s…other than that it wasnt like he had the dropsies. He played well and just had a few BIG drops that were obvious td’s.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
That is the point
Someone drops an easy 5 yard pass going nowhere on first and ten is one thing – dropping an 85 yard TD pass when down 3-0 is a different matter.
I see Hixon being the returner and 6th WR unless Moss can beat him out.
by G Fan in England on Jun 16, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel you
that it is a bigger dissappointment. But it not characteristic of him to drop the long ball. It happend at inopportune times yes, but its not like he is known for it. He has made plenty of plays prior that made him the starting WR.
I def dont have him 6th on my board though. not below hagan. Hagan is just a superior ST’er.
But your right. moss is the odd man out. Its about time to issue him his “do not pass go” card
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I agree with you guy's
Moss virtually has no value to the Giants WR corps. In a perfect world that they’re all healthy, he would not have a chance at a game day activation given his role!
Any receiver who is targeted a lot
will drop some big play balls. Manningham and Nicks both dropped balls that could have been long gainers or tds last year. It comes with the territory, and as long as it doesn’t become a habit, it’s just something you live with and move on.
To be honest, I think Hixon is far more valuable than the completely untested Ramses Barden at this point. We all love Barden’s size and potential, but we don’t have any idea if he can cut it against NFL secondaries yet, and he doesn’t seem to have any special teams value at all. Given that he’s a third round pick, I assume the Giants will give Barden every chance to succeed, but he’s going to have to be a very good receiver to justify a roster spot. Hopefully he’ll establish his niche as that big target and red zone specialist that we’ve all been craving. Time will tell.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I think with Moss
IMO, as fans, we were waiting or wanting him to be like his brother, Santana?! It’s probably unfair to assume, but a natural way of thinking. So as Sinorice’s career has unfolded thus far, it’s becoming clear, he’s not close to what we were hoping for, and i think the Giants have been adding the talent to replace him.
It just so happens though, that Moss has been fortunate to this point and his retention with injuries to other WR’s.
I think you could have put moss in the bust column before last year
what the hell is a justin bieber?
Gartell Johnson is the man.
“Gartrell Johnson just planted and faked somebody out of their cleats in the backfield. He’s had good mobility this spring. #nyg 5 minutes ago”
-mike G
by ianwestpalm on Jun 16, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hixon is ok, from mike gs twitter
NJ_Giants Good heads up. RT @fmr5998: Reese just announced on Sirius that Hixon hyper-extended his knee. Nothing serious. #nyg
about 1 hour ago
by ianwestpalm on Jun 16, 2010 10:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm more concerned
about Alford’s injury. As with Osi last year, I suspect Alford may not be at full speed and may not be much of a contributor this year. As someone else suggested, perhaps the silver lining to that is more reps for Joseph, who I think has a much bigger upside than Alford anyway.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jun 16, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
I don't think Hixon is the greatest thing sinde bottled beer,
he’s the most underated player by BBVers.
we're gonna see how underrated he is now I guess....
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Stadium Comments
My Dad attended and commented that he couldn’t believe that for a billion dollars, they could build such a big blah bowl filled with seats. He was completely underwhelmed about the new stadium.
Anyway, anybody else that attended have any comment on the new stadium? Living in Houston, I was at the Jerry Jones fest that we spoiled last year, and I have to say that new stadium is truly the bomb…. Hate to think we built a billion dollar stadium thats lame.
Check RV's blog
I thought it was incredibly utilitarian, and that 1.7 Bill doesn’t buy what it used to.
I liked the urinals tho, no flush, very green and hopefully won’t flood and turn mens room into a toxic dump.

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